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Title: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Nether Animal on December 19, 2015, 06:05:59 PM
Look at this madness. He brought his back up, too.


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Post by: Nether Animal on December 19, 2015, 06:07:02 PM
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Post by: Coach is Back! on December 19, 2015, 06:11:37 PM
Standing relaxed its close. Other than that Haney beats him.
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Post by: hazbin on December 19, 2015, 07:18:07 PM
Standing relaxed its close. Other than that Haney beats him.

do you notice alot of guys with over dominant delts lose their scapular mobility causing them to shrink when they raise their arms?
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 19, 2015, 08:14:00 PM
Look at this madness. He brought his back up, too.




Mentions his back, but don't post any pics of his back?
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Post by: Nether Animal on December 19, 2015, 08:21:50 PM
Here's his back at '91 WBF.

I know there is a RLS from that FIBO event but I can't find it right now. It looks better than this pic.
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Post by: Royalty on December 19, 2015, 11:13:36 PM
Guy with the camera stopped filming just as Gary's back was about to become visible

Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Nether Animal on December 19, 2015, 11:14:12 PM
Haney in '91. Maybe his biggest ever? Wonder how he would have handled Dorian in '92.
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Post by: honest on December 19, 2015, 11:28:40 PM
Till they turned around
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Post by: Ropo on December 20, 2015, 12:43:46 AM
Haney in '91. Maybe his biggest ever? Wonder how he would have handled Dorian in '92.

I must be difficult as hell trying to find that bad picture of Haney, which undeniably is one of the most esthetic mr Olympias ever. Yes, If we are comparing worst picture of Haney and the best pictures of the Strydom, he at that  moment look better than Haney, just like Honest was commenting, till they turn around. Strydom, the man without lats, will never be better than Haney, who have lats. It really is simple as that. Strydoms main problem was that he loved looking himself at the mirror, and didn't give enough attention to the bodyparts which he didn't see.

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/129/images/Lee%20HaneyGary%20Strydom.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69897.0;attach=437354;image)
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2015, 12:48:12 AM
I don't think that's a bad pic its sick. It's part of the comparison, I'm trying to find Haney at his most impressive. There are some guest posing shots from that period where he looks insanely big, maybe like he would have if he stuck around.


I'm trying to be fair, don't just pick and choose Haney at his perceived "best" like that '88 shot. I saw that one coming; looks like Gary is mid-pose to me.

I want '91 Haney vs '91 Strydom. Coward. Panty. Set it up.
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Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2015, 12:53:29 AM
Found the Haney pics. Guestposing '91, looks HUGE! Still with that tight waist!
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Post by: Royalty on December 20, 2015, 01:21:25 AM
Lee's arms could've been bigger. Ronnie's arms looked nearly twice the size as Haney's
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Post by: Thespritz0 on December 20, 2015, 01:28:51 AM
Not that bad...
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Post by: hench on December 20, 2015, 03:03:31 AM
Haney much more balanced and flowing physique. Strydoms delts overpowered his chest, even his mm was out of whack. Then from the back  it wasn't even close
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Ropo on December 20, 2015, 07:06:52 AM
I don't think that's a bad pic its sick. It's part of the comparison, I'm trying to find Haney at his most impressive. There are some guest posing shots from that period where he looks insanely big, maybe like he would have if he stuck around.


I'm trying to be fair, don't just pick and choose Haney at his perceived "best" like that '88 shot. I saw that one coming; looks like Gary is mid-pose to me.

I want '91 Haney vs '91 Strydom. Coward. Panty. Set it up.

What are you crying about, little child? Don't you know that those two has been on the same stage at the live competition, and they has been rated there by official judges? Haney win, because he were better. It make no sense to try make some "Who will win at the crappy picture contest", that is childish. I know you little fan boys see things differently, but any kind of comparison by the photos is just stupid. They have been in competitions, Haney has win a lot, Strydom has win a little, so Haney was better, no matter how do you see it. In his career Haney never placed outside the top three, while Strydom has some grand prix victories, fifth place at the mr Olympia 1988, which was only mr O where he was competing. Haney has win all what matters in this sport, and Strydom has win some second class shows, where he has been with some second class bodybuilders. This is the truth, no matter if it hurt your feelings or not.  
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Post by: njflex on December 20, 2015, 07:11:17 AM
Haney much more balanced and flowing physique. Strydoms delts overpowered his chest, even his mm was out of whack. Then from the back  it wasn't even close
sorta,, remember haney had a great chest,his chest overpowered his delts,and strydom had a great chest too..
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Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 20, 2015, 08:34:52 AM
I must be difficult as hell trying to find that bad picture of Haney, which undeniably is one of the most esthetic mr Olympias ever. Yes, If we are comparing worst picture of Haney and the best pictures of the Strydom, he at that  moment look better than Haney, just like Honest was commenting, till they turn around. Strydom, the man without lats, will never be better than Haney, who have lats. It really is simple as that. Strydoms main problem was that he loved looking himself at the mirror, and didn't give enough attention to the bodyparts which he didn't see.

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/129/images/Lee%20HaneyGary%20Strydom.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69897.0;attach=437354;image)

Haney at about 250 lbs was a man amongst boys during his era
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Post by: Rambone on December 20, 2015, 08:40:41 AM
You can't win a Sandow with the piss poor Genovaesque back Strydom had.
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Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
What are you crying about, little child?

I don't get you, dude. You seem to be taking this far too seriously. I'm just trying to spur some friendly discourse with this "What if..." matchup. Sure, Haney is a fucking legend, and Gary is a only a legend "in his own mind" who only competed twice post-WBF. How is that even up for debate? The point is comparing/contrasting the two of them at their best, which Gary was never even close to during his times on stage with Lee. Then there is the scintillating question of how Lee would have fared if he stuck around in '92 or even later, because he was really hitting his stride there.

I would say Strydom takes Haney on legs, arms and delts.
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Post by: doison on December 20, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
do you notice alot of guys with over dominant delts lose their scapular mobility causing them to shrink when they raise their arms?

Yes
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Post by: honest on December 20, 2015, 05:40:25 PM
I don't get you, dude. You seem to be taking this far too seriously. I'm just trying to spur some friendly discourse with this "What if..." matchup. Sure, Haney is a fucking legend, and Gary is a only a legend "in his own mind" who only competed twice post-WBF. How is that even up for debate? The point is comparing/contrasting the two of them at their best, which Gary was never even close to during his times on stage with Lee. Then there is the scintillating question of how Lee would have fared if he stuck around in '92 or even later, because he was really hitting his stride there.

I would say Strydom takes Haney on legs, arms and delts.

Real issue is that an argument could be made on all bodyparts, but Back is night and day. it was the same with Nasser another guy great from the front and side, you just cant win an Olympia without a back, Strydom and Nasser were Olympia standard in all bodyparts but from the rear they looked like they didn't belong on the same stage.
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Post by: absfabs on December 20, 2015, 05:42:09 PM
Look at this madness. He brought his back up, too.




Haney looked like shit, delts quads n lats way too big for chest and arms,  bodybuilding liek NBA died around 1989
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2015, 05:46:23 PM
Real issue is that an argument could be made on all bodyparts, but Back is night and day. it was the same with Nasser another guy great from the front and side, you just cant win an Olympia without a back, Strydom and Nasser were Olympia standard in all bodyparts but from the rear they looked like they didn't belong on the same stage.


True, and Strydom was far worse than Nasser was from behind. Of course he beats Haney in ways Nasser didn't best Yates...
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: jude2 on December 20, 2015, 05:51:16 PM
Till they turned around
Excatly, he looked great from the front, but the back was not at a pro level.
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2015, 05:57:35 PM
96 NOC. Nowhere near his best..
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Post by: njflex on December 20, 2015, 05:59:41 PM
Strydom had mass,shape,condition,maybe the best delts all time ,plus height and looked great at many bodyweight and ages amazing like ferrigno.
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Post by: Lustral on December 20, 2015, 06:14:52 PM
Lee's arms could've been bigger. Ronnie's arms looked nearly twice the size as Haney's

Ronnie's arms were probably 4" bigger; everyone striving for a 1.2 inch arm gain for months/years would know that 8 times that is huge. Lee's arms were not great but I think (as someone with small arms relative to torso  ;D ) that people with oversized arms are seen as normal over those with proportional arms.
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Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Strydom had mass,shape,condition,maybe the best delts all time ,plus height and looked great at many bodyweight and ages amazing like ferrigno.

Great legs too. Strydom has good quad shape, and GREAT legs considering his height.
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Post by: Ropo on December 20, 2015, 10:21:04 PM
Haney looked like shit, delts quads n lats way too big for chest and arms,  bodybuilding liek NBA died around 1989

Well, here you have a rankins of that shit looking Haney:

1979 Teen Mr. America[disambiguation needed]
1979 Teen Mr. America Tall, 1st
1982 Junior Nationals Heavyweight & Overall, 1st
1982 Nationals Heavyweight & Overall, 1st
1982 World Amateur Championships Heavyweight, 1st
1983 Grand Prix England, 2nd
1983 Grand Prix Las Vegas, 1st
1983 Grand Prix Sweden, 2nd
1983 Grand Prix Switzerland, 3rd
1983 Night of Champions, 1st
1983 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
1983 World Pro Championships, 3rd
1984 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1985 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1986 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1987 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1987 Grand Prix Germany (II), 1st
1988 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1989 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1990 Mr. Olympia, 1st
1991 Mr. Olympia, 1st

And here same for that exellent Gary Strydom:

1983 NPC Florida Championships, Junior - Heavyweight, 1st and Overall
1984 NPC USA Championships, HeavyWeight, 1st
1986 NPC Nationals, HeavyWeight, 1st and Overall
1987 Night of Champions, Winner
1988 Chicago Pro Invitational, 2nd
1988 Mr. Olympia, 5th
1989 Arnold Classic, 3rd
1989 Grand Prix France, 1st
1989 Grand Prix Germany, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Melbourne, 1st
1989 Grand Prix Spain (2), 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Spain, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Sweden, 1st
1989 World Pro Championships, 2nd
1990 Grand Prix England, 2nd
1990 Grand Prix Finland, 3rd
1990 Grand Prix France, 2nd
1990 Grand Prix Germany, 4th
1990 Grand Prix Italy, 3rd
1990 Houston Pro Invitational, 2nd
1990 Ironman Pro Invitational, 4th
1991 Night of the Champions
1991 WBF Championships, 1st
1992 WBF Championships, 1st
1996 Night of Champions, 12th
2006 Colorado Pro Championships, 7th

It is obvious that we are talking two different things, and the career of both of these guys doesn't happen by accident. There has to be reason why Strydom has only 5th place at the mr O, and why he was competing mainly in the GP tours. He could look better in the photos, but  live on stage he was nothing at all, and that is all what matter in this sport  ;D
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Post by: Nether Animal on December 21, 2015, 01:26:20 AM
2006 and that back is hanging together by a thread.
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Post by: hench on December 21, 2015, 01:53:03 AM
Strydom may have had a better bodypart or two than haney but as a whole  haney stomps him
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Post by: Royalty on December 21, 2015, 03:57:53 AM
Strydom may have had a better bodypart or two than haney but as a whole  haney stomps him

Strydom had a better lower body, Haney had a better upper body.
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Post by: Purge_WTF on December 21, 2015, 07:39:27 AM
 Strydom's delts were awesome.
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Post by: njflex on December 21, 2015, 07:44:34 AM
Strydom's delts were awesome.
BETWEEN HIM AND SCOTT WILSON COULD BE THE BEST EVER...
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Post by: Griffith on December 21, 2015, 10:36:35 AM
2006 and that back is hanging together by a thread.

Lack of deadlifts.... ???

Anyone know what his training looked like?
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Post by: MCWAY on December 21, 2015, 06:53:44 PM
Look at this madness. He brought his back up, too.




I made a thread with both of their 1991 routines.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=522629.0
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: oldschoolfan on December 21, 2015, 08:58:55 PM
gary had a great build  didnt compete to long he was smart with his money

he made way more money in the wbf than he ever would have working for that crook weider
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Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 22, 2015, 05:32:36 AM
Till they turned around
This!
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Post by: guyincognito on December 22, 2015, 03:38:24 PM
Most muscular paedophile of all time.
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Post by: Griffith on December 22, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
Seriously, I'm guessing he did not do deadlifts..?
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Post by: Pet shop boys on December 23, 2015, 07:38:30 AM
Strydom had mass,shape,condition,maybe the best delts all time ,plus height and looked great at many bodyweight and ages amazing like ferrigno.
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Post by: njflex on December 23, 2015, 08:41:44 AM

:)
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Post by: spotter on December 28, 2015, 05:56:34 PM
2006 and that back is hanging together by a thread.

Toupee was hanging by a thread too! :-X
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Post by: Cableguy on December 28, 2015, 11:55:25 PM
I've seen Strydom and Haney at Gold's Venice doing separate photo shoots one day after the '88 Olympia. Strydom looked great, ripped and full...but Haney looked otherworldly. I've never seen such thickness and density. Friendly, down to earth and humble to boot. A true champion in every sense of the word.
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Post by: Ropo on December 29, 2015, 03:08:12 AM
I've seen Strydom and Haney at Gold's Venice doing separate photo shoots one day after the '88 Olympia. Strydom looked great, ripped and full...but Haney looked otherworldly. I've never seen such thickness and density. Friendly, down to earth and humble to boot. A true champion in every sense of the word.

Lets see him at the stage with some other bodybuilders at 1989:



He seem to be in good condition, but still struggling with these guys which were beaten by Haney with no problems at all, so could he be better than Haney? In some picture, maybe, but never in real life. At 1989 he didn't have those cannonball delts at all, so it seem to me that he found the Synthol when he change the federation and pumped his delts in to new shape. Maybe that is one of the reasons why his career ended at 1992.
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Post by: Royalty on December 29, 2015, 04:25:38 AM
Lets see him at the stage with some other bodybuilders at 1989:



He seem to be in good condition, but still struggling with these guys which were beaten by Haney with no problems at all, so could he be better than Haney? In some picture, maybe, but never in real life. At 1989 he didn't have those cannonball delts at all, so it seem to me that he found the Synthol when he change the federation and pumped his delts in to new shape. Maybe that is one of the reasons why his career ended at 1992.

Guys were not using synthol in 1991 or 1992
Title: Re: STRYDOM in 91... better than HANEY?
Post by: Ropo on December 30, 2015, 02:45:28 AM
Guys were not using synthol in 1991 or 1992

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_Hoeberl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_Hoeberl)