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Now this is a movie, best movie I have watched in quite some time. Will Smith was brilliant.
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Creed was better. Will Smith is lame as fuck.
I hope it flops,
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Now this is a movie, best movie I have watched in quite some time. Will Smith was brilliant.
Haven't seen it but from what I've read it's a bias hit job on the NFL.
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Haven't seen it but from what I've read it's a bias hit job on the NFL.
You would read that wouldn't you.
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Don't these pussies know the risks going into contact sports ::)
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Don't these pussies know the risks going into contact sports ::)
Especially after getting paid millions.
But I don't think that is the issue. I suspect they know the risks and this more has to do with the NFL hiding concussions or not admitting to the detrimental impacts of concussions. Or, maybe I am totally wrong. I dont follow football.
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Especially after getting paid millions.
But I don't think that is the issue. I suspect they know the risks and this more has to do with the NFL hiding concussions or not admitting to the detrimental impacts of concussions. Or, maybe I am totally wrong. I dont follow football.
You're right, they are ok getting paid millions but want to blame the NFL for head injuries they knew were part of the risks. What about blue collar factory workers and construction workers, I'm sure they sustain ailments from their jobs but they don't get shit. They know it's part of doing physical work. These millionaire babies always with their hands out.
Sf1900 I don't follow football either but I follow wrestling and some of these guys are doing the same concussion shit the NFL players are doing. I like how former WWE wrestler Lance Storm put it; he said they are all adults and knew the risks going in. I could probably find the audio if anyone is interested.
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You're right, they are ok getting paid millions but want to blame the NFL for head injuries they knew were part of the risks. What about blue collar factory workers and construction workers, I'm sure they sustain ailments from their jobs but they don't get shit. They know it's part of doing physical work. These millionaire babies always with their hands out.
Sf1900 I don't follow football either but I follow wrestling and some of these guys are doing the same concussion shit the NFL players are doing. I like how former WWE wrestler Lance Storm put it; he said they are all adults and knew the risks going in. I could probably find the audio if anyone is interested.
Concussion is a 2015 American biographical sports thriller and medical drama film starring Will Smith portraying Bennet Omalu, the forensic pathologist who fought against efforts by National Football League to suppress his research on the brain damage suffered by professional football players.
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Concussion is a 2015 American biographical sports thriller and medical drama film starring Will Smith portraying Bennet Omalu, the forensic pathologist who fought against efforts by National Football League to suppress his research on the brain damage suffered by professional football players.
Illuminati propaganda, won't be seeing it, fact!
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Creed was better. Will Smith is lame as fuck.
I hope it flops,
Creed sucked massively, I can't even believe such nonsense passes for entertainment. Talk about aiming for the lowest common denominator. The only types of people who like such movies as Creed suffer from head trauma.
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For Christmas, A client of mine bought me the book, Concussion, that the movie is based on.
Gonna read it whilst traveling
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Creed rules.
Concussion is gonna tank.
Smith and his fuckass family can go fly a kite.
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smoking hurts your lungs. eat like a pig u get fat. get hit in the head over and over you get dumb.
but lets do a bunch of studies anyway just to make sure
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smoking hurts your lungs. eat like a pig u get fat. get hit in the head over and over you get dumb.
but lets do a bunch of studies anyway just to make sure
Overly simplified Slik...in the last 10 years alone they've learned more about concussions than in all years previous.
When I was playing contact sports, they thought a concussion was little more than a headache. Shake it off and get back in there.
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Concussion is a 2015 American biographical sports thriller and medical drama film starring Will Smith portraying Bennet Omalu, the forensic pathologist who fought against efforts by National Football League to suppress his research on the brain damage suffered by professional football players.
Yup. Mike Webster figures large. Now, there's a sad NFL story. No wonder the league tried to suppress this shit. Dave Duerson and Junior Seau both shot themselves in the chest; the former leaving a note to examine his brain. Both had CTE. I love me some football, but if you think the NFL is all about player's health you are a fool. It's all about the do-re-mi. I guess that explains Coach's post. :-\
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Yup. Mike Webster figures large. Now, there's a sad NFL story. No wonder the league tried to suppress this shit. Dave Duerson and Junior Seau both shot themselves in the chest; the former leaving a note to examine his brain. Both had CTE. I love me some football, but if you think the NFL is all about player's health you are a fool. It's all about the do-re-mi. I guess that explains Coach's post. :-\
Didn't they estimate the number of head hits in his career to be something like 9000 or 90000 hits.
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Didn't they estimate the number of head hits in his career to be something like 9000 or 90000 hits.
Who knows? All it takes is a a few good ones. There's even been suggestions that Lou Gehrig didn't suffer from ALS, but CTE. That would be a sad irony.
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smoking hurts your lungs. eat like a pig u get fat. get hit in the head over and over and read GB you get dumb.
but lets do a bunch of studies anyway just to make sure
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smoking hurts your lungs. eat like a pig u get fat. get hit in the head over and over you get dumb.
but lets do a bunch of studies anyway just to make sure
This is simplifying the matter. Of course we know that getting in the head leads to be bad outcomes. However, the point of studies is to determine how and why the concussions happen, in order to possibly prevent future occurrences and better ways to treat concussions. Youre assuming that just because we know X leads to Y on the most basic level, that we should not research it further? ??? ??? ???
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Yup. Mike Webster figures large. Now, there's a sad NFL story. No wonder the league tried to suppress this shit. Dave Duerson and Junior Seau both shot themselves in the chest; the former leaving a note to examine his brain. Both had CTE. I love me some football, but if you think the NFL is all about player's health you are a fool. It's all about the do-re-mi. I guess that explains Coach's post. :-\
Id be more apt to believe that the NFL cares A LOT more about the "bottom dollar" than they do about the players health. To an extent, I guess that is the focus of any HUGE business.
The NFL did not publicly acknowledge the link between concussions sustained in football and CTE until December 2009,[6] seven years after Omalu's discovery.
But I am assuming that the NFL now has more stringent guidelines regarding concussions.
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Yup. Mike Webster figures large. Now, there's a sad NFL story. No wonder the league tried to suppress this shit. Dave Duerson and Junior Seau both shot themselves in the chest; the former leaving a note to examine his brain. Both had CTE. I love me some football, but if you think the NFL is all about player's health you are a fool. It's all about the do-re-mi. I guess that explains Coach's post. :-\
Any sport is a risk some more than others. Staying healthy in any sport is priority ONE and precautions are taken but never guaranteed. As far as concussions in football, even before most of these studies started exploiting the concussion risk, coaches, strength coaches, neurologists, etc knew about the risk. The precautions were taken in way of neck pads, more helmet padding, training the neck, etc. Time's have changed and so has equipment, tackling and training protocols. A few years ago Pete Carroll introduced Rugby-style tackling drills to the NFL as well as High School athletes that has reduced concussions.
For the last 3 years, in my gym and at a couple of other schools I've hosted a concussion prevention and a "protect the neck" clinic taught manual neck training and for those schools that are lucky enough of afford a four way neck machine along with implementing other protocols. We also bring in other coaches, orthos, physical therapists and chiros.
I'll be at the Indiana summit in Feb.
http://www.concussionpreventionprotocol.com/home
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There is something I don't understand about this film. The movie shows real NFL footage. Footage owned and licensed by the NFL. If the NFL was so scared of this film why would they allow it to use their game footage and logo?
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There is something I don't understand about this film. The movie shows real NFL footage. Footage owned and licensed by the NFL. If the NFL was so scared of this film why would they allow it to use their game footage and logo?
Well, I am sure there were ways to get around it. I can't imagine the NFL allowing licensed footage to be released.
We need Harley to speak on the matter.
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will smith does a poor foreign dialect all of a sudden he's a great actor...... tell the trooouth,,,,,,,,, tell the trooute.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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will smith does a poor foreign dialect all of a sudden he's a great actor...... tell the trooouth,,,,,,,,, tell the trooute.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Acting. Oh, brother. ::)
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We should ban football....
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For Christmas, A client of mine bought me the book, Concussion, that the movie is based on.
Gonna read it whilst traveling
You can say the John's name. No one knows who it is
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Maybe if 90% of NFL players weren't on steroids and gh there wouldn't be so many concussions.
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LOL @ "I had no idea crashing my head into another's helmet for 20 years would have any affect upon my health".
LOL @ "I really believe the NFL had no idea about the long-term damages".
Both sides are putz dumb asses on this issue. NFL playing dumb after stuffing players with shots and telling them to play thru major injuries and concussions, and dumb ass player willing to play thru massive injuries because working 9-5 wasn't their thing.
Screw idiots on both sides.
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Maybe if 90% of NFL players weren't on steroids and gh there wouldn't be so many concussions.
I would be willing to bet that saved them from even worse damage.
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Creed was amazing, this shit will tank and stallone will win a oscar.
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I would be willing to bet that saved them from even worse damage.
::) coach being coach here.
Go back to the 50s when the biggest football player was 210 lbs. Today with the help of drugs, we have 330lb players who are not only strong but very fast. Do the math, this is what is leading to the concussions.
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We should ban football....
Agreed. Dumbest game ever. Obviously an outlet for repressed homosexual tendencies. The fact it is so popular just goes to show how many homo's there are in society. Lucky for them they are unconscious of their deepest darkest desires, can you imagine how many of these repressed homo's would lose it if they became conscious of the fact they loved sucking cock.
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Agreed. Dumbest game ever. Obviously an outlet for repressed homosexual tendencies. The fact it is so popular just goes to show how many homo's there are in society. Lucky for them they are unconscious of their deepest darkest desires, can you imagine how many of these repressed homo's would lose it if they became conscious of the fact they loved sucking cock.
What a "sport".
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Agreed. Dumbest game ever. Obviously an outlet for repressed homosexual tendencies. The fact it is so popular just goes to show how many homo's there are in society. Lucky for them they are unconscious of their deepest darkest desires, can you imagine how many of these repressed homo's would lose it if they became conscious of the fact they loved sucking cock.
TA forgetting to switch accounts again
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Agreed. Dumbest game ever. Obviously an outlet for repressed homosexual tendencies. The fact it is so popular just goes to show how many homo's there are in society. Lucky for them they are unconscious of their deepest darkest desires, can you imagine how many of these repressed homo's would lose it if they became conscious of the fact they loved sucking cock.
Yet you hang out on a bodybuilding website commenting on oiled up men in glittery thongs 1/2 of which do g4p. Waiting.
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You're right, they are ok getting paid millions but want to blame the NFL for head injuries they knew were part of the risks. What about blue collar factory workers and construction workers, I'm sure they sustain ailments from their jobs but they don't get shit. They know it's part of doing physical work. These millionaire babies always with their hands out.
Sf1900 I don't follow football either but I follow wrestling and some of these guys are doing the same concussion shit the NFL players are doing. I like how former WWE wrestler Lance Storm put it; he said they are all adults and knew the risks going in. I could probably find the audio if anyone is interested.
Until recently they did NOT know the danger of multiple concussions - I follow rugby (and played it) and it was seen as like a knee injury. Once symptoms gone you're grand.
The $800m lawsuit turned out a few things, probably changed nothing. If I were a pro athlete I would still go all out and risk it - that is how they are by nature. Fuck the pay, they would tear each other apart to win regardless.
Never heard of movie. May watch it when on torrent.
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Yet you hang out on a bodybuilding website commenting on oiled up men in glittery thongs 1/2 of which do g4p. Waiting.
Outed. Sorry you are a repressed gay. Oh, and getbig isn't just about men in thongs (the part you like). Bodybuilding is the gayest thing ever, I wouldn't even call it a sport, but it is most certainly gay.
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TA forgetting to switch accounts again
This
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Like how FIFA represses proof that soccer turns people gay. "No, they play soccer because they're gay!" I ain't buying it.
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smoking hurts your lungs. eat like a pig u get fat. get hit in the head over and over you get dumb.
but lets do a bunch of studies anyway just to make sure
It's all overblown and deliberately so, part of the strategy of the wussification of America. They don't want parents to let their kids play contact sports or have toy guns. If football were as dangerous as they pretend it is, every single person would know 10-20 brain addled ex football players at least. Pretty much everyone I know who played is fine. Also 99 percent who play are never at the level of pro where the worst happens.
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It's all overblown and deliberately so, part of the strategy of the wussification of America. They don't want parents to let their kids play contact sports or have toy guns. If football were as dangerous as they pretend it is, every single person would know 10-20 brain addled ex football players at least. Pretty much everyone I know who played is fine. Also 99 percent who play are never at the level of pro where the worst happens.
The wussification of America. Would you allow your daughter, sister, girlfriend to participate in a sport that you knew would cause her serious brain injury, reduce her quality of life and lead to premature death?
So in your mind real men should gladly participate in mindless activities that cause brain damage? Is this the definition of machismo?
Wouldn't it be easier for the repressed homo's just to come out of the closet.
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The consequences of one's actions are only obvious when they are being done by someone else.
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The wussification of America. Would you allow your daughter, sister, girlfriend to participate in a sport that you knew would cause her serious brain injury, reduce her quality of life and lead to premature death?
So in your mind real men should gladly participate in mindless activities that cause brain damage? Is this the definition of machismo?
Wouldn't it be easier for the repressed homo's just to come out of the closet.
Have you thought about beating your head up against a wall just to make me happy?
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Have you thought about beating your head up against a wall just to make me happy?
Have you thought about just coming out of the closet just to avoid being so butt hurt all the time. Oh Wait !
Face it. Football is GAY and there is nothing wrong with that.
Grown men showering in groups together after groping one another in public is perfectly normal.
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Even if the NFL did suppress the research, so what? Why is it the NFL's job to educate the players on head contact and concussions? Is the NFL requires to educate players on concussions before they enter the league? They are adult, why can't they do their own research? When did it become the NFLs job to provide players with this information? Second, players are being paid millions and know the risks. Don't bitch and moan if you wind up with a few concussions.
On the other hand, it becomes a problem if the NFL is allowing people to play with a head concussion. Then again, if an adult wants to play with a concussion, shouldn't it be their right? Or should the NFL step in and disallow them to play? Hmmmm.
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Have you thought about just coming out of the closet just to avoid being so butt hurt all the time. Oh Wait !
Face it. Football is GAY and there is nothing wrong with that.
Grown men showering in groups together after groping one another in public is perfectly normal.
Radical Plato/E-kul (or whatever you want to be called), do you think hockey is gay?
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Even if the NFL did suppress the research, so what? Why is it the NFL's job to educate the players on head contact and concussions? Is the NFL requires to educate players on concussions before they enter the league? They are adult, why can't they do their own research? When did it become the NFLs job to provide players with this information? Second, players are being paid millions and know the risks. Don't bitch and moan if you wind up with a few concussions.
On the other hand, it becomes a problem if the NFL is allowing people to play with a head concussion. Then again, if an adult wants to play with a concussion, shouldn't it be their right? Or should the NFL step in and disallow them to play? Hmmmm.
Well, you are assuming that grown men have unlimited choice in how to direct their fate, but is is limited to whatever system they are raised under. In a capitalist system a man is literally forced to choose an occupation. Many men also internalise the systemic view that their lives are worthless so of course such men are going to choose the best paying occupations even though they know it comes at a great risk. They have been told since birth that their lives hold no value other than what they can provide to women, children and nation so have no problem sacrificing their lives/health for others. Any man who actually cared about his own well being would never participate in a sport that caused him to damage his own brain/body.
How many men from the ruling classes participate in such sports?
The fact is, the underclasses are used for entertainment purposes for the middle/upper classes. They laugh at how willingly the peasants will destroy themselves for a tiny piece of their pie.
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Well, you are assuming that grown men have unlimited choice in how to direct their fate, but is is limited to whatever system they are raised under. In a capitalist system a man is literally forced to choose an occupation. Many men also internalise the systemic view that their lives are worthless so of course such men are going to choose the best paying occupations even though they know it comes at a great risk. They have been told since birth that their lives hold no value other than what they can provide to women, children and nation so have no problem sacrificing their lives/health for others. Any man who actually cared about his own well being would never participate in a sport that caused him to damage his own brain/body.
How many men from the ruling classes participate in such sports?
The fact is, the underclasses are used for entertainment purposes for the middle/upper classes. They laugh at how willingly the peasants will destroy themselves for a tiny piece of their pie.
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Radical Plato/E-kul (or whatever you want to be called), do you think hockey is gay?
I think the majority of team sports are gay. I think games like football, cricket, hockey, baseball etc etc are all children's games. I can understand children wanting to play them, but not grown men unless they have some unconscious homoerotic agenda.
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I think the majority of team sports are gay. I think games like football, cricket, hockey, baseball etc etc are all children's games. I can understand children wanting to play them, but not grown men unless they have some unconscious homoerotic agenda.
Why would you think hockey is gay though? What is your rationale? They really arent rolling around on a floor together and grabbing each other.
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Why would you think hockey is gay though? What is your rationale? They really arent rolling around on a floor together and grabbing each other.
Do they all shower together after the game?
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Do they all shower together after the game?
I don't know. ??? ???
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I don't know. ??? ???
And I am just stirring the pot, it is more juvenile than gay. Plus coach is actually a repressed homo.
And I think a lot of it is also based an archaic tribalism, just reinforces division rather than integration. It is a good way to keep the masses from coming together and uniting as one against the ruling classes.
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And I am just stirring the pot, it is more juvenile than gay.
And I think a lot of it is also based an archaic tribalism, just reinforces division rather than integration. It is a good way to keep the masses from coming together and uniting as one against the ruling classes.
Well, sports definitely divide people. Sometimes it can be in a nonthreatening manner, but sports often bring out the worst in people. People take it EXTREMELY seriously. I went to a Ranger game about 15 years ago. Huge fight broke out after the game between fans. Horrible.
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Well, sports definitely divide people. Sometimes it can be in a nonthreatening manner, but sports often bring out the worst in people. People take it EXTREMELY seriously. I went to a Ranger game about 15 years ago. Huge fight broke out after the game between fans. Horrible.
Yeah, I don't get it. Here in Australia they consider Australian Rules Football a religion. I don't follow the game but occasionally go with a friend when he has free tickets. I just don't understand how serious some people take it. It seems like some type of collective mental illness to me. I watch the crazed spectators with a sense of detachment and they seem frightening human beings to me. I wonder what they would do for an outlet if their wasn't such events as grown men determined to get hold of a pig skin and give it to their mates all the while trying to move said pig skin down field and through some goal posts. The whole spectacle seems absolutely ridiculous to me. Not to mention the pats on the bum and the group showering.
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Well, you are assuming that grown men have unlimited choice in how to direct their fate, but is is limited to whatever system they are raised under. In a capitalist system a man is literally forced to choose an occupation. Many men also internalise the systemic view that their lives are worthless so of course such men are going to choose the best paying occupations even though they know it comes at a great risk. They have been told since birth that their lives hold no value other than what they can provide to women, children and nation so have no problem sacrificing their lives/health for others. Any man who actually cared about his own well being would never participate in a sport that caused him to damage his own brain/body.
How many men from the ruling classes participate in such sports?
The fact is, the underclasses are used for entertainment purposes for the middle/upper classes. They laugh at how willingly the peasants will destroy themselves for a tiny piece of their pie.
What?? HahHahahahahahahahahahah aha! Are you SHITTING me. ROFLMFO.
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Isn't it the covering up of studies and what not that have people upset with the NFL and concussions?
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Isn't it the covering up of studies and what not that have people upset with the NFL and concussions?
Yes, supposedly the NFL was suppressing research studies that linked concussions to head injuries.
Though, I am still unsure as to why the NFL is responsible for disseminating this information. Is that their job? ??? ???
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Yes, supposedly the NFL was suppressing research studies that linked concussions to head injuries.
Though, I am still unsure as to why the NFL is responsible for disseminating this information. Is that their job? ??? ???
Of course it is? Any organisation has a duty of care to its employees? Would you be happy to work for a company that knowingly allowed you to handle chemicals that caused cancer and premature death and never informed you of the risks or told you there was no risk?
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Of course it is? Any organisation has a duty of care to its employees? Would you be happy to work for a company that knowingly allowed you to handle chemicals that caused cancer and premature death and never informed you of the risks or told you there was no risk?
Are cops directly informed that they may die on the job before signing up for the police force? ??? ???
The thing is, to what extent is the NFL required to disseminate this information? Sure, they may have the professional players sign something that states that they acknowledge the risks of the game. However, is the NFL required to go into specifics, i.e., you may get a broken bone, a concussion, lose some teeth, get a tear, etc.
I agree that the players may have to sign something acknowledging the risk of the game. Im just trying to determine the extent to which the NFL is responsible for informing them of every possible injury that may occur.
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Yes, supposedly the NFL was suppressing research studies that linked concussions to head injuries.
Though, I am still unsure as to why the NFL is responsible for disseminating this information. Is that their job? ??? ???
1/5 Leave the trolling to the pros.
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1/5 Leave the trolling to the pros.
No trolling. It was a serious question.
I don't understand why the NFL is responsible for disseminating public knowledge to adults who know the risks of the game.
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No trolling. It was a serious question.
I don't understand why the NFL is responsible for disseminating public knowledge to adults who know the risks of the game.
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Bottom line is this game is going no where and will keep growing as it should. Parents and athletes know the risks. And if you have a legit chance at making it the reward is greater than the risk. Linemen, linebackers, RB's and QB's are at the greatest risk but like any athlete in any sport there is a risk. Take it or leave it, it's here to stay.
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Its no secret that head injury may lead to concussions. This is not new knowledge. All of a sudden the NFL is now responsible for telling athletes about it. The two articles below are over 15 years old. Again, nothing new.
Quantification of post-concussion symptoms 3 months after minor head injury in 100 consecutive patients (1998).
Abstract
Post-concussion symptoms (PCS) (such as headaches, irritability, anxiety, dizziness, fatigue and impaired concentration) are frequently experienced by patients who have sustained a minor head injury (MHI). The post-concussion syndrome has been defined as a clinical state where 3 or more symptoms persist for more than 3 months. This report focuses on the quantification of PCS according to the Rivermead Postconcussion Symptoms Questionnaire (RPQ). We studied 100 consecutive patients with MHI and normal computed tomography of the brain. At 3 months after injury, 62% reported the presence of one or more symptoms, and 40% fulfilled the diagnostic criteria for post-concussion syndrome. Patients with post-concussion syndrome had significantly (P < 0.001) higher RPQ scores (mean 19.1, SD 11.9) than those without (mean 1.2, SD 1.8). Patients on sick leave owing to the injury reported significantly (P = 0.05) higher RPQ scores (mean 10.3, SD 13.2) than those not on sick leave (mean 5.5, SD 8.6). We observed no association between age, gender, cause of injury, severity of injury, duration of amnesia and RPQ score. RPQ score provides useful information about the severity of PCS regardless of whether the diagnostic criteria for the post-concussion syndrome are met or not.
Persisting symptoms after mild head injury: A review of the postconcussive syndrome (1986)
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Seemingly mild head injuries frequently result in persisting postconcussive syndromes. The etiology of these symptoms is often controversial. Neuropsychological, neurophysiological, and neuropathological evidence that brain damage can occur in the absence of gross neurological deficits after mild injuries is reviewed. Direct impact to the head is not required to cause brain injury. Understandably, psychological factors also play a role in post-head-injury disability, but the effect of compensation claims and preinjury psychopathology is often secondary to organic factors. Persons over age 40 or with a history of previous head injury are more vulnerable to protracted symptomatology.
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No trolling. It was a serious question.
I don't understand why the NFL is responsible for disseminating public knowledge to adults who know the risks of the game.
The NFL who spends millions of dollars to promote itself as America's pastime and cover up the health ramifications of its athletes!? Please.
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The NFL who spends millions of dollars to promote itself as America's pastime and cover up the health ramifications of its athletes!? Please.
Who is covering up the health ramifications? Look at the above two studies I posted. Its public knowledge that head injury may result in concussions and its associated symptoms.
Ive NEVER followed football in my entire life, and even I knew that a head injury can result in a concussion. I mean, look at all the people who get into a car accident, smash their head and wind up with concussions. Its not like the NFL were the only people who knew about this, and were suppressing the research. That would be an entirely different story. Its not like the NFL is paying researchers worldwide not to post their studies. But researchers all over the world have known that a head injury can lead to a concussion and post their results.
Players know the risks and have no problems taking a 10 million dollar check, yet will bitch and moan when they wind up with a concussion. Please.
Why has the NFL become a spokesperson for concussions?
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This study is from 1996. Shows the correlation between head injury and neuropsychological functioning. If NFL players want to know the risks, they can easily find these studies online.
Neuropsychological Functioning and Recovery after Mild Head Injury in Collegiate Athletes
OBJECTIVE: This study prospectively examined neuropsychological functioning in 2300 collegiate football players from 10 National Collegiate Athletic Association Division A universities. The study was designed to determine the presence and duration of neuropsychological symptoms after mild head injury.
METHODS: A nonequivalent repeated measures control group design was used to compare the neuropsychological test scores and symptoms of injured players (n = 183) with those of gender, age, and education matched controls. A number of neuropsychological tests, including the Paced Auditory Serial Addition Test, the Digit Symbol Test, and the Trail Making Test, as well as a symptom checklist were used.
TECHNIQUE: Players and controls were assessed before engaging in game activity and 24 hours, 5 days, and 10 days after injury, using the standardized test battery and symptom checklist.
RESULTS: Players with head injuries displayed impaired performance and increased symptoms in comparison to controls, but this impairment resolved within 5 days in most players. Players with head injuries showed significant improvement between 24 hours and 5 days, as well as between 5 and 10 days.
CONCLUSION: Although single, uncomplicated mild head injuries do cause limited neuropsychological impairment, injured players generally experience rapid resolution of symptoms with minimal prolonged sequelae.
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Here's the PBS documentary on the tug of war the NFL has with the retired players over this issue, I remember it being a good watch -
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/ .
Also just because I've got it handy, an early 80's PBS expose on the NFL, the Mob, and sports betting/game fixing that ruffled a lot of feathers back then -
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Who is covering up the health ramifications? Look at the above two studies I posted. Its public knowledge that head injury may result in concussions and its associated symptoms.
Ive NEVER followed football in my entire life, and even I knew that a head injury can result in a concussion. I mean, look at all the people who get into a car accident, smash their head and wind up with concussions. Its not like the NFL were the only people who knew about this, and were suppressing the research. That would be an entirely different story. Its not like the NFL is paying researchers worldwide not to post their studies. But researchers all over the world have known that a head injury can lead to a concussion and post their results.
Players know the risks and have no problems taking a 10 million dollar check, yet will bitch and moan when they wind up with a concussion. Please.
Why has the NFL become a spokesperson for concussions?
Because they spent/d millions of dollars trying to quash such studies. Kinda like the cigarette/cancer studies; the oil companies/global warming. Keep trying. :-\
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Maybe these guys should take up tennis if they don't want the concussions.
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Because they spent/d millions of dollars trying to quash such studies. Kinda like the cigarette/cancer studies; the oil companies/global warming. Keep trying. :-\
But even if they did try to quash studies, there is enough studies out there to affirm the relationship between concussion and head injuries.
Ive known about the relationship between head injuries and concussions since I was a teenager.
So, why is the NFL responsible for informing adult athletes about this? Should they sit them down and show them a video tape of people having their heads smashed and leading to concussions? What exactly should the NFL do? The relationship between head injuries and concussions is NOT secret knowledge. Its public knowledge.
You can keep saying "keep trying" but youre not defending your position. I am providing evidence that enough studies are out there, in order for adult football players to make an informed decision without the NFL. Again, go on and say "keep trying" but it does nothing to defend your position.
Please, provide me with a framework as to how the NFL should go about informing athletes about the relationship between concussions and head injuries. Should they give them a few journal articles to read?
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Also just because it's handy, Disposable Heroes. An HBO America Undercover special from 1984, about how busted out some of these guys are from the sport, and how the NFL was handling it back then -
http://vimeo.com/4683642 .
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Also just because it's handy, Disposable Heroes. An HBO America Undercover special from 1984, about how busted out some of these guys are for the sport, and how the NFL was handling it back then -
http://vimeo.com/4683642 .
Hey, they trash soldiers who come back from war, as well. But SF knows that society is well-informed as to their 'disposable' nature, as well. No need to write articles.
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The solution to this problem, 2 words: touch football.
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Hey, they trash soldiers who come back from war, as well. But SF knows that society is well-informed as to their 'disposable' nature, as well. No need to write articles.
Adult athletes who are willingly entering a sport should do the research on the game.
If they don't, then its their responsibility when they get injured.
The information is out there. Its their responsibility to find it.
And, yet, you still not have provided me a framework for how the NFL should go about informing the players. Make them read a book? Watch a video? Read some journal articles? Sign a contract that it entails the risk (if thats not already done). What should the NFL do?
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The solution to this problem, 2 words: touch football.
No. Money. ;D
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Adult athletes who are willingly entering a sport should do the research on the game.
If they don't, then its their responsibility when they get injured.
The information is out there. Its their responsibility to find it.
And, yet, you still not have provided me a framework for how the NFL should go about informing the players. Make them read a book? Watch a video? Read some journal articles? Sign a contract that it entails the risk (if thats not already done). What should the NFL do?
Ok. I. get. it. Leave the trolling to TA.
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No. Money. ;D
Now we get to the root issue. Money. 8)
If the babies want to play tackle and make big money they need to stop worrying about the boo boo on their head.
There are other ways to make money, Walmart and Burger King are always hiring.
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Ok. I. get. it. Leave the trolling to TA.
I may or may not be trolling, yet I dragged you along all this way. ;) ;) :D :D :D
Ill await your response.
ps - everyone knows TA trolls 99.9% of the time. Its no secret.
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Now we get to the root issue. Money. 8)
If the babies want to play tackle and make big money they need to stop worrying about the boo boo on their head.
There are other ways to make money, Walmart and Burger King are always hiring.
Pretty sure you've never played a sport.
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I may or may not be trolling, yet I dragged you along all this way. ;) ;) :D :D :D
Ill await your response.
ps - everyone knows TA trolls 99.9% of the time. Its no secret.
Ach. Waiting for the lady friend to get off work. Been a pleasure. Best to you, and yours, for the season. Cheers. :)
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Ach. Waiting for the lady friend to get off work. Been a pleasure. Best to you, and yours, for the season. Cheers. :)
Nice excuse. :D :D
Happy Holidays! ;) ;)
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Would the NFL teams be able to sell 100 dollar plus tickets and pay off the bonds for Stadia if the linemen only weighed 225 lbs?
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Would the NFL teams be able to sell 100 dollar plus tickets and pay off the bonds for Stadia if the linemen only weighed 225 lbs?
Be like asking MLB teams not to hit the taters.
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Here's the PBS documentary on the tug of war the NFL has with the retired players over this issue, I remember it being a good watch -
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/ .
Also just because I've got it handy, an early 80's PBS expose on the NFL, the Mob, and sports betting/game fixing that ruffled a lot of feathers back then -
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Great video. Thanks. My guess is that game fixing is going on today with the owners and the refs and assorted long term coaches...
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The concussion stuff is bullshit, a handful of problems with no look at the millions who play safely. Hyped bullshit. Wussification of America by no dad mommy state people who fear and hate anything tough, especially something that teaches many kids discipline and hard work. The population would be littered with brain dead zombified former players if all this hype was true. No answer to this common sense debunking in this thread.
Go back to band practice marching with your trumpet.
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LOL @ "I had no idea crashing my head into another's helmet for 20 years would have any affect upon my health".
LOL @ "I really believe the NFL had no idea about the long-term damages".
Both sides are putz dumb asses on this issue. NFL playing dumb after stuffing players with shots and telling them to play thru major injuries and concussions, and dumb ass player willing to play thru massive injuries because working 9-5 wasn't their thing.
Screw idiots on both sides.
Couldn't care less about the NFL, but this stuff bleeds down to where people think it is something far more dangerous than it is leading to wussification. Like parents taking away a kids cap pistol.
They tried trotting out Frank Gifford recently on this concussion issue. The dude lived to 85 and had a heck of a life, not exactly the poster child for supporting the dangers.
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Great video. Thanks. My guess is that game fixing is going on today with the owners and the refs and assorted long term coaches...
It's plainly obvious with the refs and shitty calls and the timing with the rise of Daily Fantasy Leagues. The timing is spot on when the refs start fucking over teams and the intro of these gambling fantasy sites.
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You're right, they are ok getting paid millions but want to blame the NFL for head injuries they knew were part of the risks. What about blue collar factory workers and construction workers, I'm sure they sustain ailments from their jobs but they don't get shit. They know it's part of doing physical work. These millionaire babies always with their hands out.
Sf1900 I don't follow football either but I follow wrestling and some of these guys are doing the same concussion shit the NFL players are doing. I like how former WWE wrestler Lance Storm put it; he said they are all adults and knew the risks going in. I could probably find the audio if anyone is interested.
Worker's compensation? Blue collar workers do get compo, just not to same extent, but they are not earning the same.
The issue was that there was a cover-up. The concussion issue was known, and the causes, but it was consciously ignored, stated not to be a risk, and rule changes were not implemented.
The helmets are a large reason for concussions... that and shitty tackling. They never wrap arms around player, they shoulder charge like idiots relying on padding. It is spreading to other sports now, or else more awareness, but how can you stop people getting bigger (hence bigger collisions) or people tackling more aggressively? You can't - just don't lie about it. NFL lied.
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If Will wants to ever win an Oscar/Academy award he needs to play a retard or gay a role.
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If Will wants to ever win an Oscar/Academy award he needs to play a retard or gay a role.
Eddie Redmayne is trying so desperately for an oscar that he did Stephen Hawking last year and a trannie this year. I think of he adds Islam or some other left wing trending issue he could do it.
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Eddie Redmayne is trying so desperately for an oscar that he did Stephen Hawking last year and a trannie this year. I think of he adds Islam or some other left wing trending issue he could do it.
A Holocaust film will get him an Oscar.
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A Holocaust film will get him an Oscar.
That is so early 1990s. A transexual handicapped Syrian refugee would tick just about enough boxes.
I saw a Christmas story on Sky News earlier with a Syrian refugee in a wheelchair - with photos of when she was rescued at sea in a wheelchair. How thoughtful of her parents to bring her on an unseaworthy vessel. I won't complain about helping a disabled person, just don't shove them on a raft and float them here expecting help when they will have a higher chance of dying than from their illness.
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Went to see CONCUSSION but the line was too long so we went to see POINT BREAK .... one hell of a tremendous movie as far as I am concerned.
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Went to see CONCUSSION but the line was too long so we went to see POINT BREAK .... one hell of a tremendous movie as far as I am concerned.
The kind of review published newspapers should put on the front page.
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If Will wants to ever win an Oscar/Academy award he needs to play a retard or gay a role.
Sort of a "Simple Jack Off"...?
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Went to see CONCUSSION but the line was too long so we went to see POINT BREAK .... one hell of a tremendous movie as far as I am concerned.
Can you tell us more about Point Break? I have been seeing the previews, and I have not noticed any scenes of surfing nor bank robberies. The original Point Break was about surfing and bank robbers. This remake just looks like a cash-grab based on the name.
Rest in peace, Patrick Swayze (Bodhi)
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This Movie bombed! ;D
http://www.projectcasting.com/news/concussion-movie-box-office/
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In its opening weekend, the film was projected to gross $8–10 million from 2,841 theaters. It ended up grossing $10.5 million, finishing 7th at the box office.
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In its opening weekend, the film was projected to gross $8–10 million from 2,841 theaters. It ended up grossing $10.5 million, finishing 7th at the box office.
Creed destroyed concussion. Concussion was failure from the start, Will Smith really did not want to do it.
Back to Men in Black.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=creed.htm