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"This is something that never gets discussed - a 9-5 job is NOT an 8 hour shift. People always say **** like "it's only 8 hours!" to try and encourage workcelling. First off, that's ridiculous because 8 hours is still a long ****ing time, but more importantly: that concept is completely false. When you have a job, your entire life revolves around it. This point needs to be stated over and over again until it's understood fully. If anyone reading this is on the fence about working full time, my advice would be to do whatever you can to avoid it, unless you absolutely 100% need to work.
When you're a full time wageslave, things are very different. It's not like you have your life, and within that there are your relationships, your hobbies, and your job. No no no. Instead, you have your WORK, and everything else is secondary. Every action of every day will relate to work in some way. You have to wake up early to get ready for work. You have to stay alert in the work day, never slacking and CONSTANTLY paying attention. You've finished for the day and it seems like you can unwind? Guess what! You have to go to bed within a few hours, as otherwise you won't be able to function the day after! Almost every day of every week of every year is spent working. The "vacation time" you get in most countries is a joke. Even the time you do have for "recreation" will spent by you feeling drained, because you've worked like a dog ALL DAY! Suddenly, problems you worried about in the past just seem meaningless. It's like caring about a stubbed toe when you have cancer. Incel? No girlfriend? Uh... so?! That's a ****ing non-issue, wait until you have to work ALL DAY. You'll wake up every morning, wishing you could do something else. If you thought your time as a NEET browsing forums all day was boring, just wait until you have to do stuff that's even more boring but actually requires effort. As boring as being a NEET can be, at least you're actually free. At least your time is actually that, when you're a workcel you forget what free time even is.
Probably the craziest thing is how it never really gets better. You don't get used to it, you wake up every day doing the same thing, thinking the same thoughts, feeling just as bad if not worse as you did the day before. Your work remains dull, your coworkers' radios play the same repetitive pop songs, and the minutes pass like hours. I have enough points that I could write a book on the hell of workcelling, but it makes me feel sick to even think about it.
A lot of people on this forum say life ends at 20. If 20 is when you start working full time, then I agree 100%. I was 18 when I got my first full time job. When I look back at my life, the few months before I started work were honestly the best of my life. The day I started working full time, things changed and have never quite been the same since."
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Please sum up in a few words
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Please sum up in a few words
The summation is the government should give the writer money so that he doesn't have to work.
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Sounds like a whinny, lazy fvck.
I work from 7 am to 4 pm and I feel like I have a lot of free time in my hands. When I get home I usually take a bath, surf the internet/play videogames/go to the gym, then I eat a snack and read a book or something. The weekends I go out with my gf or friends. I love my life. 8)
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The summation is the government should give the writer money so that he doesn't have to work.
Ahh I see its a quote of a wiggs/goodrum post
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True for the most part
But, if you have a career and a job that isn't totally shit its better
It can even be character building
Bur for the most part it's shit. I'd like more time off work and retire early
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True for the most part
But, if you have a career and a job that isn't totally shit its better
It can even be character building
Bur for the most part it's shit. I'd like more time off work and retire early
(http://sluthate.com/download/file.php?id=16736)
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(http://sluthate.com/download/file.php?id=16736)
wise words, buddy :)
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(http://sluthate.com/download/file.php?id=16736)
I find that that last part is totally bogus and a self-induced notion
Like he says, it's making money for the company, the company should be grateful
With age I start giving less shit about my performance at work and I am not as grateful anymore
Doesn't make a difference either, funny
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I find that that last part is totally bogus and a self-induced notion
Like he says, it's making money for the company, the company should be grateful
With age I start giving less shit about my performance at work and I am not as grateful anymore
Doesn't make a difference either, funny
I was about to make a comment until I saw that the pic comes from Sluthate.com :D
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I was about to make a comment until I saw that the pic comes from Sluthate.com :D
Lol you're right
That's one of the reasons I like Army. His views on women
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The summation is the government should give the writer money so that he doesn't have to work.
the new american/uk dream.
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Sounds like a whinny, lazy fvck.
I work from 7 am to 4 pm and I feel like I have a lot of free time in my hands. When I get home I usually take a bath, surf the internet/play videogames/go to the gym, then I eat a snack and read a book or something. The weekends I go out with my gf or friends. I love my life. 8)
Indoctrinated wage slave of peace.
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"This is something that never gets discussed - a 9-5 job is NOT an 8 hour shift. People always say **** like "it's only 8 hours!" to try and encourage workcelling. First off, that's ridiculous because 8 hours is still a long ****ing time, but more importantly: that concept is completely false. When you have a job, your entire life revolves around it. This point needs to be stated over and over again until it's understood fully. If anyone reading this is on the fence about working full time, my advice would be to do whatever you can to avoid it, unless you absolutely 100% need to work.
When you're a full time wageslave, things are very different. It's not like you have your life, and within that there are your relationships, your hobbies, and your job. No no no. Instead, you have your WORK, and everything else is secondary. Every action of every day will relate to work in some way. You have to wake up early to get ready for work. You have to stay alert in the work day, never slacking and CONSTANTLY paying attention. You've finished for the day and it seems like you can unwind? Guess what! You have to go to bed within a few hours, as otherwise you won't be able to function the day after! Almost every day of every week of every year is spent working. The "vacation time" you get in most countries is a joke. Even the time you do have for "recreation" will spent by you feeling drained, because you've worked like a dog ALL DAY! Suddenly, problems you worried about in the past just seem meaningless. It's like caring about a stubbed toe when you have cancer. Incel? No girlfriend? Uh... so?! That's a ****ing non-issue, wait until you have to work ALL DAY. You'll wake up every morning, wishing you could do something else. If you thought your time as a NEET browsing forums all day was boring, just wait until you have to do stuff that's even more boring but actually requires effort. As boring as being a NEET can be, at least you're actually free. At least your time is actually that, when you're a workcel you forget what free time even is.
Probably the craziest thing is how it never really gets better. You don't get used to it, you wake up every day doing the same thing, thinking the same thoughts, feeling just as bad if not worse as you did the day before. Your work remains dull, your coworkers' radios play the same repetitive pop songs, and the minutes pass like hours. I have enough points that I could write a book on the hell of workcelling, but it makes me feel sick to even think about it.
A lot of people on this forum say life ends at 20. If 20 is when you start working full time, then I agree 100%. I was 18 when I got my first full time job. When I look back at my life, the few months before I started work were honestly the best of my life. The day I started working full time, things changed and have never quite been the same since."
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You hate women and girls, now you hate working and think anyone who does so is ruining their life.
So what do you want out of life? To be a single man with HIV who prefers the company of the Bear community so you can unite in misery? That it?
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(http://sluthate.com/download/file.php?id=16736)
Obviously you don't know shit about Bukowski because he worked as a mailman for 4 years and as a mail clerk (extremely tough job at that time) for 11 years and did many other blue collar jobs and loved it. As a mail clerk he would put in 12-14 hour days, go home, get drunk, sleep an hour or two and be at it again. He despised most who did not know how to do hands on, real work.
He used to make fun of all the hippies and dared them to go deliver mail, saying they would not last two seconds out on the streets.
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Obviously you don't know shit about Bukowski because he worked as a mailman for 4 years and as a mail clerk (extremely tough job at that time) for 11 years and did many other blue collar jobs and loved it. As a mail clerk he would put in 12-14 hour days, go home, get drunk, sleep an hour or two and be at it again. He despised most who did not know how to do hands on, real work.
He used to make fun of all the hippies and dared them to go deliver mail, saying they would not last two seconds out on the streets.
He wouldn't go home and get drunk at his mail job. He got drunk on the job along with a shitload of other mail sorters etc. People who got drunk on their jobs back then loved their jobs because that was their social life in a lot of ways. Railroads were and probably still are jobs were majority of the employee's get shitfaced on the job.
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He wouldn't go home and get drunk at his mail job. He got drunk on the job along with a shitload of other mail sorters etc. People who got drunk on their jobs back then loved their jobs because that was their social life in a lot of ways. Railroads were and probably still are jobs were majority of the employee's get shitfaced on the job.
Bukowski did not want a social life. He preferred drinking in his room.
I actually just got done reading 4 of his lesser known books.
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Bukowski did not want a social life. He preferred drinking in his room.
I actually just got done reading 4 of his lesser known books.
Good point on him not wanting a social life.
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Indoctrinated wage slave of peace.
Why? Because I'm a hard working person who believes you're not entitled to shit?
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You hate women and girls, now you hate working and think anyone who does so is ruining their life.
So what do you want out of life? To be a single man with HIV who prefers the company of the Bear community so you can unite in misery? That it?
It's fvcking sad. I like AoO as a poster but the woman-hater mentality brings nothing but misery. On top of that, if you hate work you're pretty much fvcked.
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The point that's missed in this rant by the OP, is that you're free to sit at home and not do shit. But, if you want things or what you determine to be a better life, you wake up and go to work. If not, be a fucking bum or work as you need to, but don't expect to ever have shit.
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Why? Because I'm a hard working person who believes you're not entitled to shit?
Other indoctrinated wage slaves, nothing to see here.
Settle down their worker #24378. Remember you love your life, you love your job and on the weekend you love spending time with your gf. Carry On.
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Other indoctrinated wage slaves, nothing to see here.
Settle down their worker #24378. Remember you love your life, you love your job and on the weekend you love spending time with your gf. Carry On.
Please enlighten us, how are you supossed to buy stuff you need/want without working? Do you steal wi-fi from your neighbors? ::)
And what's wrong with liking what you do for a living? Some of us have a career and don't have to take dead-end jobs you know.
You come off as a person with a miserable life. No shit, you hate women, work, etc. I can't imagine living like that.
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Man, you guys act like spoiled bitch man children. Truth of the matter, money is the goal. Working is a means to an end. Don't like you job? Get educated and change it.
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I disagree. The text was probably written by some suicidal malcontent who has completely lost perspective and has more serious problems than life direction.
Anyone who identifies with the text and lives in the West needs to understand how the other 80% of the world lives.
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Can you guys imagine a world without people passionated about what they do for a living?
The reason we have internet, wi-fi, etc is because physicists, mathematicians, IT people, etc love what they do and come up with awesome ideas. Wheter money is the goal or not that's not the point.
Ironically, you now have losers using this same media to put down people who try to make a better world. ::)
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I disagree. The text was probably written by some suicidal malcontent who has completely lost perspective and has more serious problems than life direction.
Anyone who identifies with the text and lives in the West needs to understand how the other 80% of the world lives.
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Exactly.
If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto. See how fun and "free" that kind of life is. ::)
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If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto. See how fun and "free" that kind of life is. ::)
Your thinking is so sad, in your mind the only options are wage slavery or living in the ghetto.
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Exactly.
If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto. See how fun and "free" that kind of life is. ::)
I watched a film called Sicario yesterday, part of it takes place in Juarez, Mexico.
It's impossible to bitch about life when you see what goes on there.
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My favorite is when people brag about how many hours they work as if it were a badge of honor.
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My favorite is when people brag about how many hours they work as if it were a badge of honor.
It seems some of my coworkers take pride in working at weekends and at night. They're kind of smug about it, not openly bragging but they seem proud.
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The majority of people work hard to acquire more money, to buy more stuff, which depletes resources at a faster rate. All in a vain attempt to become a more attractive proposition for potential mates.
I think Bertrand Russell was onto something when he proposed a society which was more focused on the pursuit of knowledge, over the pursuit of money.
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The majority of people work hard to acquire more money, to buy more stuff, which depletes resources at a faster rate. All in a vain attempt to become a more attractive proposition for potential mates.
I think Bertrand Russell was onto something when he proposed a society which was more focused on the pursuit of knowledge, over the pursuit of money.
“Suppose that, at a given moment, a certain number of people are engaged in the manufacture of pins. They make as many pins as the world needs, working (say) eight hours a day. Someone makes an invention by which the same number of men can make twice as many pins: pins are already so cheap that hardly any more will be bought at a lower price. In a sensible world, everybody concerned in the manufacturing of pins would take to working four hours instead of eight, and everything else would go on as before. But in the actual world this would be thought demoralizing. The men still work eight hours, there are too many pins, some employers go bankrupt, and half the men previously concerned in making pins are thrown out of work. There is, in the end, just as much leisure as on the other plan, but half the men are totally idle while half are still overworked. In this way, it is insured that the unavoidable leisure shall cause misery all round instead of being a universal source of happiness. Can anything more insane be imagined?”
- Bertrand Russell, In Praise of Idleness and Other Essays
One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important.
- Bertrand Russell, Conquest of Happiness
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It's quite endearing to see Radical Plato try to emulate TA. Just not as good at googling or interpreting his own finds yet.
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That guy sounds miserable. I'm sure glad I work here.
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Before you start quoting Bertrand Russell, you may want to read this on why he is an evil man:
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/943a_russell_lhl.html
Also, why is pursuing knowledge any better than pursuing money? It's all futile, dust in the wind.
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Working should be about learning and improving yourself to get better and more challenging jobs. Not a dead end job you sit in for 40 years.
The picture accompanying the lazy post is stupid, no-one is forcing you to do any of that but not actually working will get you nowhere. What, so no-one in the world will ever work? How will anything ever happen?
Every job I've done has been a progression from the last and learning more. Aside from the dead end job I did while I started a business which I did to ensure I had enough cash to live and get the business going but I didn't want a job doing anything challenging then since the business was the purpose. I also like working a lot to see how much money I can make - and I don't give a fuck about material things or looking impressive.
People who think like the OP post don't have that in them. They've had easy lives and want it forever. Lazy fucks.
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I watched a film called Sicario yesterday, part of it takes place in Juarez, Mexico.
It's impossible to bitch about life when you see what goes on there.
Lived in El Paso. Not once did I cross into Juarez. That was 20 years ago. I can't imagine it's improved.
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Before you start quoting Bertrand Russell, you may want to read this on why he is an evil man:
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/943a_russell_lhl.html
Also, why is pursuing knowledge any better than pursuing money? It's all futile, dust in the wind.
Serious, just give us the cliffsnotes, that link you posted is like a 20,000 word essay. So why was Bertrand Russell an evil man?
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Exactly.
If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto. See how fun and "free" that kind of life is. ::)
Absolutely.
Lazy fucks want to let other hardworking people work and pay taxes so they can live in this society without having to contribute.
Fuck the welfare state.
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Absolutely.
Lazy fucks want to let other hardworking people work and pay taxes so they can live in this society without having to contribute.
Fuck the welfare state.
Sucker. ;D
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Sucker. ;D
Haha
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If you don't want to be a wage slave then figure out a product or service the world needs and build it. Get capital financing, build a company around it, hire people, make money, sell the company and retire. Buy a big farm somewhere, setup solar power, have a water well and spend the rest of your life writing philosophy, music and nurturing your children and grand children.
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Does that apply if you are debt free? ???
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Obviously you don't know shit about Bukowski because he worked as a mailman for 4 years and as a mail clerk (extremely tough job at that time) for 11 years and did many other blue collar jobs and loved it.
No, he hated working as a mailman and hated all his other jobs too. He wanted to be a writer.
Here is the documentary on his life "Born into This". If you haven't seen it, I recommend everyone watch the whole thing. Skip to 30:30 where he talks about the Post Office.
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"This is something that never gets discussed - a 9-5 job is NOT an 8 hour shift. People always say **** like "it's only 8 hours!" to try and encourage workcelling. First off, that's ridiculous because 8 hours is still a long ****ing time, but more importantly: that concept is completely false. When you have a job, your entire life revolves around it. This point needs to be stated over and over again until it's understood fully. If anyone reading this is on the fence about working full time, my advice would be to do whatever you can to avoid it, unless you absolutely 100% need to work.
When you're a full time wageslave, things are very different. It's not like you have your life, and within that there are your relationships, your hobbies, and your job. No no no. Instead, you have your WORK, and everything else is secondary. Every action of every day will relate to work in some way. You have to wake up early to get ready for work. You have to stay alert in the work day, never slacking and CONSTANTLY paying attention. You've finished for the day and it seems like you can unwind? Guess what! You have to go to bed within a few hours, as otherwise you won't be able to function the day after! Almost every day of every week of every year is spent working. The "vacation time" you get in most countries is a joke. Even the time you do have for "recreation" will spent by you feeling drained, because you've worked like a dog ALL DAY! Suddenly, problems you worried about in the past just seem meaningless. It's like caring about a stubbed toe when you have cancer. Incel? No girlfriend? Uh... so?! That's a ****ing non-issue, wait until you have to work ALL DAY. You'll wake up every morning, wishing you could do something else. If you thought your time as a NEET browsing forums all day was boring, just wait until you have to do stuff that's even more boring but actually requires effort. As boring as being a NEET can be, at least you're actually free. At least your time is actually that, when you're a workcel you forget what free time even is.
Probably the craziest thing is how it never really gets better. You don't get used to it, you wake up every day doing the same thing, thinking the same thoughts, feeling just as bad if not worse as you did the day before. Your work remains dull, your coworkers' radios play the same repetitive pop songs, and the minutes pass like hours. I have enough points that I could write a book on the hell of workcelling, but it makes me feel sick to even think about it.
A lot of people on this forum say life ends at 20. If 20 is when you start working full time, then I agree 100%. I was 18 when I got my first full time job. When I look back at my life, the few months before I started work were honestly the best of my life. The day I started working full time, things changed and have never quite been the same since."
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Taking a second look at this. He said a lot of people in that forum claim life ends at 20 years old.
Why? Because mommy and daddy stop paying for your stuff? What a bunch of lazy fvcks.
Where does this came from anyway? Sluthate.com?
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Taking a second look at this. He said a lot of people in that forum claim life ends at 20 years old.
Why? Because mommy and daddy stop paying for your stuff? What a bunch of lazy fvcks.
Where does this came from anyway? Sluthate.com?
Bb.com
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Bb.com
LOL... ;D
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Most people are bitching because they have some sense of delusional self entitlement and a fantasy that just because they went to college, university, trade school etc or that they stay an extra hour after work they are going to get the big bucks.
It's all about money, thats it thats all.
You know what it takes to get to the top and that does not even have guarantees. 16-18 hour days, day in day out pursuing success in whatever you are doing with passion and fire. Oh and those first years of 16-18 hour days, day in day out are usually doing tasks/jobs that you and everyone else would despise.
The most successful people I have known personally over the years ate alot of shit and gave it back to get where they are. They cleans their own fucking toilets so to speak because they couple not afford an employee to do this.
People are fucking spoiled and think anyone living an easy or relaxed life just happened to get there overnight. Unless you are born with the silver spoon or connections you gotta suffer first to get there.
I wish I had all the qualities above when I was younger instead of just a few(work ethic I had, attitude could suck at times)
Just sayin
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Most people are bitching because they have some sense of delusional self entitlement and a fantasy that just because they went to college, university, trade school etc or that they stay an extra hour after work they are going to get the big bucks.
It's all about money, thats it thats all.
You know what it takes to get to the top and that does not even have guarantees. 16-18 hour days, day in day out pursuing success in whatever you are doing with passion and fire. Oh and those first years of 16-18 hour days, day in day out are usually doing tasks/jobs that you and everyone else would despise.
The most successful people I have known personally over the years ate alot of shit and gave it back to get where they are. They cleans their own fucking toilets so to speak because they couple not afford an employee to do this.
People are fucking spoiled and think anyone living an easy or relaxed life just happened to get there overnight. Unless you are born with the silver spoon or connections you gotta suffer first to get there.
I wish I had all the qualities above when I was younger instead of just a few(work ethic I had, attitude could suck at times)
Just sayin
A large percentage of people aged 16-24 in the U.S. say they don't want to work.
http://time.com/3585786/young-americans-work/
Analysis shows increase in the percentage of teenagers and twenty-somethings outside the labor force
Nearly 40% of people in the United States ages 16 to 24 say that they don’t want a job, accounting for a sizable portion of the 92 million Americans who are currently outside the labor force, according to a new analysis of labor statistics.
30 years ago I didn't know one person over the age of 12 that didn't have a job.
Time to scrap this generation and start from scratch.
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Serious, just give us the cliffsnotes, that link you posted is like a 20,000 word essay. So why was Bertrand Russell an evil man?
You must read the who.e crazy diatribe to get the full impact! Seriously, I think it boils down to Bertrand Russell being involved in the justifications for developing nuclear bombs so there would be a weapon so fearful that global powers would need to coalesce around one world government, controlling all, which is antithetical to individual freedom.
People, Bertrand Russell included, can't seem to grasp that what is gained by the theoretical efficiencies of central planning is more than outweighed by the losses from individual creativity being stifled.
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A large percentage of people aged 16-24 in the U.S. say they don't want to work.
http://time.com/3585786/young-americans-work/
Analysis shows increase in the percentage of teenagers and twenty-somethings outside the labor force
Nearly 40% of people in the United States ages 16 to 24 say that they don’t want a job, accounting for a sizable portion of the 92 million Americans who are currently outside the labor force, according to a new analysis of labor statistics.
30 years ago I didn't know one person over the age of 12 that didn't have a job.
Time to scrap this generation and start from scratch.
I worked here when I was a kid.
http://www.stevescarcare.net/
The guy who started it (Steve duh) started this with nothing and worked full time at the airport and here for a couple of years until he had the success enough to stop working the other gig full time, plus he had another location I remember which I believe he later sold.
I had forgotten about him until this thread but he is one example.
Another man who once owned a Swiss Chalet(BBQ Chicken Chain in Canada) I worked at sold it back to Cara foods(Parent company) and walked away a millionaire back in the 80"s. this location was the biggest and busiest in Montreal at the time pulling in like $3million a year in sales(1980's $$). He went on invest in a bunch of ski chalet's in the eastern towships. Guy started out in the early 70's as a French Fry cook at Harvey's Hamburgers(swiss chalets sister restaurant, burger chain).
My point is the dummies starting out in the Mc jobs or who refuse to do them can't see the forest for the trees.
Guy from my Dad's town off the Island has owned a few Mcdonald's locations since the mid 70's
BTW the guy Steve above gave up what would have been a career at the airport(I recall customs), unionized etc.
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He'll, I don't "want" to work or have a job. I have to work. Or I have shit and live off the dole, which I view as a sucky form of life.
Those 40 percent of kids who don't want a job, I wonder how many have ever seen someone in their family get up and go to work every day.
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He'll, I don't "want" to work or have a job. I have to work. Or I have shit and live off the dole, which I view as a sucky form of life.
Those 40 percent of kids who don't want a job, I wonder how many have ever seen someone in their family get up and go to work every day.
This.
The goal is finding a job that you like just enough not to freak out. ;D
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It's like reading the ramblings of a crazy person.
Sounds like the type of idiot who sits on the corner of the highway on ramp with a sign that says, "Travelling across country. Need money."
I tell them to get a job. Save up. Then you can afford to travel.
Lazy idiots.
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the meek shall inherit the earth 8)
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If you don't want to work and produce for society, then why do you live in it?
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Obviously you don't know shit about Bukowski because he worked as a mailman for 4 years and as a mail clerk (extremely tough job at that time) for 11 years and did many other blue collar jobs and loved it. As a mail clerk he would put in 12-14 hour days, go home, get drunk, sleep an hour or two and be at it again. He despised most who did not know how to do hands on, real work.
He used to make fun of all the hippies and dared them to go deliver mail, saying they would not last two seconds out on the streets.
Bukowski hated all his jobs, he said they sucked the soul out of him. He was suicidal partly because of the jobs he had to do.
His body felt like a plank of wood after a day's work. Drinking and drugging was essential "to forget" his miserable existence. Complaining about work is a major theme in his work.
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Bukowski hated all his jobs, he said they sucked the soul out of him. He was suicidal partly because of the jobs he had to do.
His body felt like a plank of wood after a day's work. Drinking and drugging was essential "to forget" his miserable existence. Complaining about work is a major theme in his work.
Complaining about .... Sounds like Navy Mike might have a career as a great writer some day. #mypersonalhell
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Bukowski hated all his jobs, he said they sucked the soul out of him. He was suicidal partly because of the jobs he had to do.
His body felt like a plank of wood after a day's work. Drinking and drugging was essential "to forget" his miserable existence. Complaining about work is a major theme in his work.
Bukowski was severely abused by his father when he was a child. I think his drinking/drugging had a lot to do with that.
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Bukowski was severely abused by his father when he was a child. I think his drinking/drugging had a lot to do with that.
Maybe, maybe not. I just think he simply loved alcohol, it opened up his mind. And like he said, drinking was like having two lives, one sober and one intoxicated, the drunken phase helped him recover from, forget, and tolerate the dreary, sober workday. Or helped with not having a job and money. If you had four walls and a bottle you still had a chance, as he said. :D
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“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
-Charles Bukowski
“there are worse things
than being alone
but it often takes
decades to realize this
and most often when you do
it's too late
and there's nothing worse
than too late”
― Charles Bukowski
“Boring damned people. All over the earth. Propagating more boring damned people. What a horror show. The earth swarmed with them.”
― Charles Bukowski
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Bukowski was severely abused by his father when he was a child. I think his drinking/drugging had a lot to do with that.
Probably didn't help.
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Probably the hardest working person i know is a mate who works for himself and has a low mortgage as he bought during the recession. He makes great money and a holiday home. He gets up at 5.30am or 6am, i work it out on when he gets my mesages, and works til 6 or 9pm. He is happy and hates time off. Any downtime in business he works on house. My dad is/was the same. Hates being without something to do.
On topic i hated every minute working shit jobs and do not notice time when working at something i give a shit about. I really feel for people who work in retail though, especially this time of year. Don't shop on 26th December. Fuck off. Wait for sales.
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Probably the hardest working person i know is a mate who works for himself and has a low mortgage as he bought during the recession. He makes great money and a holiday home. He gets up at 5.30am or 6am, i work it out on when he gets my mesages, and works til 6 or 9pm. He is happy and hates time off. Any downtime in business he works on house. My dad is/was the same. Hates being without something to do.
On topic i hated every minute working shit jobs and do not notice time when working at something i give a shit about. I really feel for people who work in retail though, especially this time of year. Don't shop on 26th December. Fuck off. Wait for sales.
Not working probably gets old fast.
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Probably the hardest working person i know is a mate who works for himself and has a low mortgage as he bought during the recession. He makes great money and a holiday home. He gets up at 5.30am or 6am, i work it out on when he gets my mesages, and works til 6 or 9pm. He is happy and hates time off. Any downtime in business he works on house. My dad is/was the same. Hates being without something to do.
On topic i hated every minute working shit jobs and do not notice time when working at something i give a shit about. I really feel for people who work in retail though, especially this time of year. Don't shop on 26th December. Fuck off. Wait for sales.
The hardest working guy I ever met ran a landscaping business, built it from the ground up and made a small fortune, his second wife divorced him and took him to the cleaners, he has kids he is paying for from two marriages and lost most everything except his business (which he had to scale back dramatically). In his late forties he ended up living in his factory for two years, he has just met another woman and is starting to try the relationship game again. He is still a workaholic, but now also an alcoholic and incredibly bitter. I have always tried to warn him about women, but he is one of these types who need to be married, needs to feel loved and cared for, even after all his negative experiences he still holds out hope the next women is different. Poor bastard.
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Not working probably gets old fast.
NEVER. The key is to work to make enough money so you can work as little as possible. The only real valuable currency is your time, the goal of work should be to earn as much free time as you possibly can. JMO
The story of the mexican fisherman encapsulates this philosophy.
An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.
The Mexican replied, “only a little while. The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs. The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.” The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15 – 20 years.”
“But what then?” Asked the Mexican.
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”
“Millions – then what?”
The American said, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
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NEVER. The key is to work to make enough money so you can work as little as possible. The only real valuable currency is your time, the goal of work should be to earn as much free time as you possibly can. JMO
The story of the mexican fisherman encapsulates this philosophy.
An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.
The Mexican replied, “only a little while. The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs. The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.” The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15 – 20 years.”
“But what then?” Asked the Mexican.
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”
“Millions – then what?”
The American said, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
Oh please, can't you see what's wrong with this cheap pseudo-philosophy?
1. The mexican fisherman makes jack shit. He can't cover medical bills, if one of his kids suffers an accident or gets really sick then "hasta la vista chico".
2. The mexican fisherman doesn't make enough money to pay for his kids' education, so they end up taking dead-end jobs and bitching about it on the internet.
3. The mexican fisherman can't afford vacations in other cities, let alone other countries.
4. The mexican fisherman can't afford a washing machine, a computer, internet, cable, etc.
5. The mexican fisherman can't afford to eat properly and his diet is pretty basic/dull.
I'd take the MBA's approach, thanks.
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Oh please, can't you see what's wrong with this cheap pseudo-philosophy?
1. The mexican fisherman makes jack shit. He can't cover medical bills, if one of his kids suffers an accident or gets really sick then "hasta la vista chico".
2. The mexican fisherman doesn't make enough money to pay for his kids' education, so they end up taking dead-end jobs and bitching about it on the internet.
3. The mexican fisherman can't afford vacations in other cities, let alone other countries.
4. The mexican fisherman can't afford a washing machine, a computer, internet, cable, etc.
5. The mexican fisherman can't afford to eat properly and his diet is pretty basic/dull.
I'd take the MBA's approach, thanks.
I am sorry you are stuck in a job you hate, wasting and working your life away to make someone else rich. I truly am sorry you have been unable to find another way.
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I am sorry you are stuck in a job you hate, wasting and working your life away to make someone else rich. I truly am sorry you have been unable to find another way.
Fail. I really like what I do for a living. 8)
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Fail. I really like what I do for a living. 8)
I'm sorry to hear that, really I am.
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Oh please, can't you see what's wrong with this cheap pseudo-philosophy?
1. The mexican fisherman makes jack shit. He can't cover medical bills, if one of his kids suffers an accident or gets really sick then "hasta la vista chico".
true.
2. The mexican fisherman doesn't make enough money to pay for his kids' education, so they end up taking dead-end jobs and bitching about it on the internet.
trade job fishing?
3. The mexican fisherman can't afford vacations in other cities, let alone other countries.
he is happy with his family
4. The mexican fisherman can't afford a washing machine, a computer, internet, cable, etc.
he does care about that stuff tho. You're pushing you wants on him
5. The mexican fisherman can't afford to eat properly and his diet is pretty basic/dull.
again, Mexico is cheaper and you're pushing your wants on him
I'd take the MBA's approach, thanks.
Different strokes for different folks. You or I might not enjoy a fisherman's simple life. But you can't say he is living a wrong life.
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Different strokes for different folks. You or I might not enjoy a fisherman's simple life. But you can't say he is living a wrong life.
Good point.
However money gives you access to a good healthcare system. Public healthcare programs in third world countries are horrible. Being able to pay for a private clinic is a matter of life or death.
Money also allows you to pay for your children's higher education.
Those two points are enough for me to believe the MBA approach is the best. But to each their own.
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Good point.
However money gives you access to a good healthcare system. Public healthcare programs in third world countries are horrible. Being able to pay for a private clinic is a matter of life or death.
Money also allows you to pay for your children's higher education.
Those two points are enough for me to believe the MBA approach is the best. But to each their own.
Of course. Their healthcare is shitty as fuck. Just like any 3rd world country. Not the life for me either. Hell, call me spoiled but I don't even like visiting Mexico. But some people would gladly trade him lives.
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If you don't want to work and produce for society, then why do you live in it?
They're parasites. Living off the labor and ingenuity of others.
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Totally depends on the job and what you have done for it - western society still has mechanism with which you can escape the class you were born into... although they are getting scarce.
In all honesty - if you are somewhat clever and healthy and you get a grasp of what's going on then you will pursue a more distinct career that rather fits your needs than getting pulverized by a system that "welcomes you with open arms".
Russel, as far as I understood, was an overfed globalist so his opinion holds zero value for the common "prole"... much less for a bodybuilder.
I guess anybody on earth wants to make it so that he can live a life that revolves around his or her needs/preferences. The higher your position in the hierarchy the better you can "de/load" things you don't want to do onto the people below you...
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I've just had a tax letter through the door breaking down where my hard earned money has gone, almost £3000 to welfare/benefits ...its fucking sickening, lazy fat scum leaching off my pay
Its fair you get back what you pay in, once you've went past your allowance you should get fuck all, living on the dole shouldn't be an option
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I've just had a tax letter through the door breaking down where my hard earned money has gone, almost £3000 to welfare/benefits ...its fucking sickening, lazy fat scum leaching off my pay
Its fair you get back what you pay in, once you've went past your allowance you should get fuck all, living on the dole shouldn't be an option
On top of that the lazy bums log in on get big and claim jobs are for stupid people.
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I've just had a tax letter through the door breaking down where my hard earned money has gone, almost £3000 to welfare/benefits ...its fucking sickening, lazy fat scum leaching off my pay
Its fair you get back what you pay in, once you've went past your allowance you should get fuck all, living on the dole shouldn't be an option
It is bullshit. Where I am a third of the budget is allocated to welfare and benefits, a fucking third. Have your own business so at least you can spend cash you make on things they can't be claimed as tax. Best way to do it.
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A job is a necessary evil. At your deathbed, do you think you will say "I wish I had worked more"?
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"This is something that never gets discussed - a 9-5 job is NOT an 8 hour shift. People always say **** like "it's only 8 hours!" to try and encourage workcelling. First off, that's ridiculous because 8 hours is still a long ****ing time, but more importantly: that concept is completely false. When you have a job, your entire life revolves around it. This point needs to be stated over and over again until it's understood fully. If anyone reading this is on the fence about working full time, my advice would be to do whatever you can to avoid it, unless you absolutely 100% need to work.
When you're a full time wageslave, things are very different. It's not like you have your life, and within that there are your relationships, your hobbies, and your job. No no no. Instead, you have your WORK, and everything else is secondary. Every action of every day will relate to work in some way. You have to wake up early to get ready for work. You have to stay alert in the work day, never slacking and CONSTANTLY paying attention. You've finished for the day and it seems like you can unwind? Guess what! You have to go to bed within a few hours, as otherwise you won't be able to function the day after! Almost every day of every week of every year is spent working. The "vacation time" you get in most countries is a joke. Even the time you do have for "recreation" will spent by you feeling drained, because you've worked like a dog ALL DAY! Suddenly, problems you worried about in the past just seem meaningless. It's like caring about a stubbed toe when you have cancer. Incel? No girlfriend? Uh... so?! That's a ****ing non-issue, wait until you have to work ALL DAY. You'll wake up every morning, wishing you could do something else. If you thought your time as a NEET browsing forums all day was boring, just wait until you have to do stuff that's even more boring but actually requires effort. As boring as being a NEET can be, at least you're actually free. At least your time is actually that, when you're a workcel you forget what free time even is.
Probably the craziest thing is how it never really gets better. You don't get used to it, you wake up every day doing the same thing, thinking the same thoughts, feeling just as bad if not worse as you did the day before. Your work remains dull, your coworkers' radios play the same repetitive pop songs, and the minutes pass like hours. I have enough points that I could write a book on the hell of workcelling, but it makes me feel sick to even think about it.
A lot of people on this forum say life ends at 20. If 20 is when you start working full time, then I agree 100%. I was 18 when I got my first full time job. When I look back at my life, the few months before I started work were honestly the best of my life. The day I started working full time, things changed and have never quite been the same since."
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I just retired after working for the past 40 years!
I EARNED my living and sucked thru many early mornings and long days.
Guess what? That's life and most of us have to do it , unless we want to be bums.
Question : how do you plan on getting food , housing, medicine, transportation if you don't work?
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I just retired after working for the past 40 years!
I EARNED my living and sucked thru many early mornings and long days.
Guess what? That's life and most of us have to do it , unless we want to be bums.
Question : how do you plan on getting food , housing, medicine, transportation if you don't work?
See, that's why men like you should be wage slaves, you weren't able to answer the question.
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See, that's why men like you should be wage slaves, you weren't able to answer the question.
Ok? See here's the deal. SOMEONE has to do the work and provide .
In fact, in order for society to function the majority have to work and provide goods and services.
Thus , that suck off the tit of the "system" do little more then take and NOT give back.
If EVERYONE tries to take, and NOBODY works, the whole thing will collapse.
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Ok? See here's the deal. SOMEONE has to do the work and provide .
In fact, in order for society to function the majority have to work and provide goods and services.
Thus , that suck off the tit of the "system" do little more then take and NOT give back.
If EVERYONE tries to take, and NOBODY works, the whole thing will collapse.
Who says collapse of society is bad, it is exactly what is needed for things to be corrected. All that is happening at the moment is the collapse is being delayed.
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Who says collapse of society is bad, it is exactly what is needed for things to be corrected. All that is happening at the moment is the collapse is being delayed.
Most of the folks that feel as you have very little to lose .
I just retired after 40 yrs of work. I like things, as is, thanks.
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Most of the folks that feel as you have very little to lose .
I just retired after 40 yrs of work. I like things, as is, thanks.
Well STFU and stop complaining.
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Oh please, can't you see what's wrong with this cheap pseudo-philosophy?
1. The mexican fisherman makes jack shit. He can't cover medical bills, if one of his kids suffers an accident or gets really sick then "hasta la vista chico".
2. The mexican fisherman doesn't make enough money to pay for his kids' education, so they end up taking dead-end jobs and bitching about it on the internet.
3. The mexican fisherman can't afford vacations in other cities, let alone other countries.
4. The mexican fisherman can't afford a washing machine, a computer, internet, cable, etc.
5. The mexican fisherman can't afford to eat properly and his diet is pretty basic/dull.
I'd take the MBA's approach, thanks.
The biggest flaw in the fisherman story is the part about the wife. If he even had a woman it would be some fat ugly toothless broken down hag. The whole point of a job is gathering resources and improving your lot. This means pussy. Unless the fisherman was born with some genetic gift all he's gonna have is some ugly ass chick.
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The biggest flaw in the fisherman story is the part about the wife. If he even had a woman it would be some fat ugly toothless broken down hag. The whole point of a job is gathering resources and improving your lot. This means pussy. Unless the fisherman was born with some genetic gift all he's gonna have is some ugly ass chick.
If we were free from hell of working we could chase primo blonde pussy all the time.
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If we were free from hell of working we could chase primo blonde pussy all the time.
Ain't no pretty blonde pussy gonna get with some smelly guy who fishes a couple hours a day, has no money, no job, no car and a shitty place to live. Being on welfare is bad for your psyche.
Chase all you want, if you are an adult bills need to be paid.
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Ain't no pretty blonde pussy gonna get with some smelly guy who fishes a couple hours a day, has no money, no job, no car and a shitty place to live. Being on welfare is bad for your psyche.
Chase all you want, if you are an adult bills need to be paid.
If society was a different way and we just hunted or whatever, we could just fuck and not worry about status is what I'm saying. Though all the pretty young blonde pussy would probably go to the most badass warrior haha :)
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If society was a different way and we just hunted or whatever, we could just fuck and not worry about status is what I'm saying. Though all the pretty young blonde pussy would probably go to the most badass warrior haha :)
Or, it would go to the richest and most influential person in the hunter society.
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If society was a different way and we just hunted or whatever, we could just fuck and not worry about status is what I'm saying. Though all the pretty young blonde pussy would probably go to the most badass warrior haha :)
but it isn't.
Society has evolved into what it is.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not even saying it's what it should be.
I'm saying it is what it is.
This is society at this point in time on the timeline.
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If you don't want to work and produce for society, then why do you live in it?
To post on getbig. What other reason is needed?
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Who says collapse of society is bad, it is exactly what is needed for things to be corrected. All that is happening at the moment is the collapse is being delayed.
In theory this may be great, in practice there might only be a few zones worth living and being secure enough to prosper.
The "collapse" might be a much needed reset event but I highly doubt that it will be positively fruitful for "the many" who dwell on its extrapolated prospects.
On the other hand, upright people who have been dearly invested in building a future might also be in for a surprise.
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I suppose I'm in the extreme minority here when I say I enjoy working. Whether working for someone else, working for myself or filling my days with my own interests, I enjoy being productive. I have a very strong work ethic.
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I suppose I'm in the extreme minority here when I say I enjoy working. Whether working for someone else, working for myself or filling my days with my own interests, I enjoy being productive. I have a very strong work ethic.
I would say you're normal and healthy.
A healthy person enjoys doing things - aka living.
A good amount of people I have met who were "low lives" or "parasites" just happened to be mentally broken down - inner weakness/disturbance which got pronounced by an upbringing without ideals/pressure/good education/a mentor.
A form of being a mental pussy which unfortunately seems to often hit quite talented and intelligent people which slowly fade away. The highly self conscious which tend to doubt themselves are the favorite food for the vultures of the "abyss".
There are of course true leeches around which are perfectly healthy(albeit slightly dumb & without ideals) who refuse any kind of "laborious" commitment.
Either way, in the end a high post count on getbig is all that matters in front of the pearly gates. :D
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I'm okay with working for my living.
Not okay with paying stupid high taxes for 3rd World parasites coming here.
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If you can't identify to some degree with that guy in the movie Office Space who gets hit by a car and gets to retire on disability who sees it as a huge bonus then you probably don't really work for a living. And I like my job too.
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To post on getbig. What other reason is needed?
Posting on getbig is the pinnacle of their contribution to the community for most getbiggers.