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Title: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: SF1900 on January 08, 2016, 11:33:08 AM
I believe this competitor confirms True Adonis' hypothesis: A calorie is just a calorie.

She states, "It doesn't matter if you fill your macros with 10 oreos or 5 gallons of brocolli. As long as you are eating based on your body composition and goals, you can maintain your body and build muscle while gaining minimal fat. Your body doesn't differentiate a slice of pizza from a salad with meat, cheese, dressing, and croutons  (which can have the same macros).

(http://i67.tinypic.com/jfyh6w.png)
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Waller on January 08, 2016, 11:37:01 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/John_Wilkes_Booth_wanted_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Nether Animal on January 08, 2016, 11:39:48 AM
Nasty whore.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: SilverSpoon on January 08, 2016, 12:12:09 PM
It appears that she knows Navy Mike's tattoo artist.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: stavios on January 08, 2016, 12:21:40 PM
I always tought it was bullshit but for the last 6 weeks I have been eating this way.

3200 calories a day.
As long as I take around 215g of protein a day, i don't give a shit about what the other calories are.

I use the "Lose it" app to track everything.
I don't have any cheat meals since I eat whatever I want in small portions.

Don't know how lean I can get doing this but as of now I drop fat just as quickly as I did with "clean food"

I feel pretty stupid having lost the last 10 preps eating chicken for months lol
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 02:46:59 PM
She states, "It doesn't matter if you fill your macros with 10 oreos or 5 gallons of brocolli. As long as you are eating based on your body composition and goals, you can maintain your body and build muscle while gaining minimal fat. Your body doesn't differentiate a slice of pizza from a salad with meat, cheese, dressing, and croutons  (which can have the same macros).

(http://i67.tinypic.com/jfyh6w.png)

What about cancer or heart disease?  Will the person who's diet consists of Oreos and pizza be as healthy when they're 70?
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 02:50:10 PM
I agree with the Owl on her shoulder: Whoo cares.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: doison on January 08, 2016, 03:21:27 PM
I believe this competitor confirms True Adonis' hypothesis: A calorie is just a calorie.

She states, "It doesn't matter if you fill your macros with 10 oreos or 5 gallons of brocolli. As long as you are eating based on your body composition and goals, you can maintain your body and build muscle while gaining minimal fat. Your body doesn't differentiate a slice of pizza from a salad with meat, cheese, dressing, and croutons  (which can have the same macros).

(http://i67.tinypic.com/jfyh6w.png)

Her plan is "a macro is a macro".
That's different than a "calorie is a calorie"
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Hulkotron on January 08, 2016, 03:23:51 PM
Nasty whore.

What's that shit on the side of her ass?
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 03:26:56 PM
What's that shit on the side of her ass?
Freckles with maybe a side of Melanoma. It's the results of a naturally light-skinned person overexposing themselves to UV rays.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 08, 2016, 07:21:01 PM
Mike mentzer was big into a calorie is a calorie

i got his   heavy duty journal which chronicles his prep for the 1979 mr olympia


he ate low calories mostly carbs and some protein, and did a shit load of cardio .


Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: TheShape. on January 08, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
Short term success.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: calfzilla on January 08, 2016, 07:36:27 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/John_Wilkes_Booth_wanted_poster.jpg)

This!!! holy shit, sf1900 finally got a taste of his own medicine.  ;D
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Lustral on January 08, 2016, 07:37:40 PM
What about cancer or heart disease?  Will the person who's diet consists of Oreos and pizza be as healthy when they're 70?

Look at that HS teacher who dieted on McDonald's - his cholesterol, blood pressure etc went down as his weight did.

There is also the genetic factor. Some people can eat shit and have clear skin, stay lean and feel fine - others eat the same and get fat, get bad skin and bloods go terrible.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 08, 2016, 10:00:36 PM
lustral you have a good point

i was dating a filipino girl, she had  one of the most super metabolisms i ever seen, she was very lean, didnt workout,  could eat any fucking thing

she wanted and never gained a pound.  im dead serious.

me i have to watch what i eat or ill get fat in no time no matter how much i train.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: balzac on January 08, 2016, 10:50:22 PM
What's that shit on the side of her ass?

possible side effect of mt2 , wont go away if you stop using it  :D
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 08, 2016, 11:11:24 PM
I always tought it was bullshit but for the last 6 weeks I have been eating this way.

3200 calories a day.
As long as I take around 215g of protein a day, i don't give a shit about what the other calories are.

I use the "Lose it" app to track everything.
I don't have any cheat meals since I eat whatever I want in small portions.

Don't know how lean I can get doing this but as of now I drop fat just as quickly as I did with "clean food"

I feel pretty stupid having lost the last 10 preps eating chicken for months lol
Imagine if you would have just taken my advice over a decade ago.  :-\
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 08, 2016, 11:29:12 PM
Imagine if you would have just taken my advice over a decade ago.  :-\

This commonsense you dolt. It's nothing new. It's not an "Adonis principal". It's a lazy ass way of calorie restriction. If you actually had to diet for a show with it, you'd place last. Holy shit people are gullible.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 08, 2016, 11:51:45 PM
This commonsense you dolt. It's nothing new. It's not an "Adonis principal". It's a lazy ass way of calorie restriction. If you actually had to diet for a show with it, you'd place last. Holy shit people are gullible.

coach got a question for you bro, i know you used to be  a ripped beast   ,

what  type of diet did you do when getting ready for a show ? 
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: local hero on January 09, 2016, 01:08:31 AM
Look at that HS teacher who dieted on McDonald's - his cholesterol, blood pressure etc went down as his weight did.

There is also the genetic factor. Some people can eat shit and have clear skin, stay lean and feel fine - others eat the same and get fat, get bad skin and bloods go terrible.

There was a doco where a guy ate nothing but MacDonald's for a month and his health went to shit....
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 09, 2016, 01:09:30 AM
There was a doco where a guy ate nothing but MacDonald's for a month and his health went to shit....
???
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Raymondo on January 09, 2016, 01:14:41 AM
Mike mentzer was big into a calorie is a calorie

i got his   heavy duty journal which chronicles his prep for the 1979 mr olympia


he ate low calories mostly carbs and some protein, and did a shit load of cardio .




Maybe that's why his chest looked collapsed on stage. He used to eat 500 calories a day and relied on the steroids to pull him through.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2016, 01:28:06 AM
There was a doco where a guy ate nothing but MacDonald's for a month and his health went to shit....
Yes i saw that, people forget that itīs what goes on inside your body that causes the harm and not just the "outside".
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Jizmo on January 09, 2016, 01:37:49 AM
but who was micronutrients?
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: BlackMetallic on January 09, 2016, 01:39:01 AM
John Berardi wrote an article regarding if a cal is just a cal back in the late 90's early 2000's

He wrote the article long before it was a trendy subject

3500 cals of hfcs=3500 cals beef?

👎

Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Thong Maniac on January 09, 2016, 05:00:55 AM
forgot to tell u guys this, but had recent blood tests done after 3-4 months of nothing but sugar, some healthy meals, lots junk, cereal, etc.  but no red meat, no chicken. the only protein i had was either from a little cheese, plants, or fish. even with the sugar...my lipids were the best ever. 170 total, 54 hdl, 121 ldl.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: kreator on January 09, 2016, 05:15:03 AM
it all depends on your body composition and the state it is in at the moment. You feed such diet to a huge fat bastard and you'll give him a heart attack, you feed it to somenone with lots of muscle and great insulin sensitivity and he can get away with it.

to each their own, everybody is different. But saying that different food types cause same results in the body is bullshit. there's a reason why your body responds differently to carbs, fat and protein.
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: BlackMetallic on January 09, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
forgot to tell u guys this, but had recent blood tests done after 3-4 months of nothing but sugar, some healthy meals, lots junk, cereal, etc.  but no red meat, no chicken. the only protein i had was either from a little cheese, plants, or fish. even with the sugar...my lipids were the best ever. 170 total, 54 hdl, 121 ldl.

Hdlp and Ldlp isnt even cholesterol

Look at other countries where people have far higher average cholesterol levels and they out live americans, not to mention the men in those countries have noticeably higher average test levels    

Cholesterol is the building blocks of life.  

Fat and cholesterol are not the enemy. Refined/processed sugar is

So in america a man goes to the dr. The dr sends him to get his cholesterol checked. The dr says its high

So the dr puts the man on cholesterol meds and tells him that he can no longer eat fat meat, salmon, cheese, cream ect.

His cholesterol levels drop as expected

He goes back to the dr 3 weeks later cause now his dick doesn't work. His T levels are in the gutter  
    
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Twaddle on January 09, 2016, 08:42:49 AM
Hdlp and Ldlp isnt even cholesterol

Look at other countries where people have far higher average cholesterol levels and they out live americans, not to mention the men in those countries have noticeably higher average test levels    

Cholesterol is the building blocks of life.  

Fat and cholesterol are not the enemy. Refined/processed sugar is

So in america a man goes to the dr. The dr sends him to get his cholesterol checked. The dr says its high

So the dr puts the man on cholesterol meds and tells him that he can no longer eat fat meat, salmon, cheese, cream ect.

His cholesterol levels drop as expected

He goes back to the dr 3 weeks later cause now his dick doesn't work. His T levels are in the gutter  
    

So, what are your thoughts on LDL, arterial inflammation, and plaque buildup?   ???
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Jizmo on January 09, 2016, 08:48:47 AM
So, what are your thoughts on LDL, arterial inflammation, and plaque buildup?   ???
arterial inflammation and plaque buildup and any other cardiovascular disease really come from out of whack blood sugar / insulin resistance and high blood pressure mainly. cholesterol only is a minor player here

you can have the worst cholesterol profile in the world, as long as theres no inflammation in your arteries and your blood pressure is fine you wont have any more chances for cardiovascular issues than someone with a perfect cholesterol profile.
HOWEVER its easy to just look at cholesterol levels, because for most people a fucked cholesterol profile goes hand in hand with shit diet and therefore high blood pressure and blood sugar levels/insulin sensitivity.

theres some really eye opening literature out there on that topic
. once you understand the actual bodily FUNCTION of HDL and LDL (they are just TRANSPORT proteins), its easier to understand.
id recommend EVERYONE to read into these topics. cholesterol is one of the biggest healthcare myths/lies out there
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: Rammstein on January 09, 2016, 09:03:53 AM
http://highsteaks.com/cholesterol/
Title: Re: DOES THIS CONFIRM, "A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE" HYPOTHESIS? - TRUE ADONIS?
Post by: BlackMetallic on January 09, 2016, 09:06:07 AM
arterial inflammation and plaque buildup and any other cardiovascular disease really come from out of whack blood sugar / insulin resistance and high blood pressure mainly. cholesterol only is a minor player here

you can have the worst cholesterol profile in the world, as long as theres no inflammation in your arteries and your blood pressure is fine you wont have any more chances for cardiovascular issues than someone with a perfect cholesterol profile.
HOWEVER its easy to just look at cholesterol levels, because for most people a fucked cholesterol profile goes hand in hand with shit diet and therefore high blood pressure and blood sugar levels/insulin sensitivity.

theres some really eye opening literature out there on that topic
. once you understand the actual bodily FUNCTION of HDL and LDL (they are just TRANSPORT proteins), its easier to understand.
id recommend EVERYONE to read into these topics. cholesterol is one of the biggest healthcare myths/lies out there

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