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Title: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:01:15 PM
What are the implications of driverless cars?  How will this change how we live?

Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:06:48 PM
Wall street Journal
GM Invests $500 Million in Lyft, Plans System for Self-Driving Cars

General Motors Co. is betting $500 million that ride-hailing services such as Lyft Inc. will be crucial to the future of autonomous-driving vehicles and the transformation of an industry dominated by car ownership.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-invests-500-million-in-lyft-plans-system-for-self-driving-cars-1451914204 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-invests-500-million-in-lyft-plans-system-for-self-driving-cars-1451914204)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Dave D on January 08, 2016, 03:08:01 PM
How long do they estimate that these type of cars become the standard?  It seems any cultural changes that has become universally accepted has also been affordable for the working class.

Cost would seem to be the biggest issue this movement faces.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:11:23 PM
Jalopnik 12/21/15
According to three different sources speaking to YahooAutos, Ford will pair up with Google to create a joint-venture for the development and manufacturing of autonomous vehicles.

According to the report, Ford and Google have teamed up to combine the development and manufacturing capabilities of the traditional automaker with the millions of miles of research covered by Google’s current crop of 53 autonomous cars.

Yahoo reports that the deal between Ford and Google will be non-exclusive as Google will seek partnerships with other automakers for its autonomous technology. Ford’s involvement will also likely be legally separated from the company to avoid direct liability coming back to the parent company.

http://jalopnik.com/ford-and-google-in-cahoots-to-create-new-autonomous-car-1749200779 (http://jalopnik.com/ford-and-google-in-cahoots-to-create-new-autonomous-car-1749200779)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:18:21 PM
How long do they estimate that these type of cars become the standard?  It seems any cultural changes that has become universally accepted has also been affordable for the working class.

Cost would seem to be the biggest issue this movement faces.

Sure, the first cars will probably be expensive, but I think most people will be surprised how quickly the price drops.  When companies like Ford and GM get into self driving cars, the cost comes down really quick due to economies of scale. 
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:21:48 PM
De zeen Magazine

Self-driving cars could disrupt the airline and hotel industries within 20 years as people sleep in their vehicles on the road, according to a senior strategist at Audi.

Short-haul travel will be transformed and the hassle of getting to and from airports eliminated, said Sven Schuwirth, vice president of brand strategy and digital business at the German car brand.

Business travellers will be able to avoid taking domestic flights to meetings and will sleep and work in their cars en route instead of checking into city-centre hotels, he said.

"In the future you will not need a business hotel or a domestic flight," Schuwirth told Dezeen. "We can disrupt the entire business of domestic flights."

http://www.dezeen.com/2015/11/25/self-driving-driverless-cars-disrupt-airline-hotel-industries-sleeping-interview-audi-senior-strategist-sven-schuwirth/ (http://www.dezeen.com/2015/11/25/self-driving-driverless-cars-disrupt-airline-hotel-industries-sleeping-interview-audi-senior-strategist-sven-schuwirth/)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
How long do they estimate that these type of cars become the standard?  It seems any cultural changes that has become universally accepted has also been affordable for the working class.

Cost would seem to be the biggest issue this movement faces.
They will never become standard unless the government mandates it. Actually, it might be a similar hot-topic subject comparable to gun control in about 50 years.

Real men (and women) who enjoy cars, will never go for such absurdity. For some people, driving a car, relaxes them like someone who enjoys working out.

Manually driving a car will never go out of style.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: TuHolmes on January 08, 2016, 03:27:47 PM
Only good for Taxis, Ubers, Lyfts, and people who would be happy to let the car drive after a night of drinking.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
Only good for Taxis, Ubers, Lyfts, and people who would be happy to let the car drive after a night of drinking.

Excellent point. Early innovators could corner the market.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: da_vinci on January 08, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
A blowjob while driving will become legal.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
Following last year’s Drive CX, Nvidia just announced an updated version of its computing platform for self-driving cars, the Drive PX 2. Compared to last year’s model, this is a much more powerful beast, able to process data from 12 video cameras and other sensors in real time to make educated driving decisions. The company calls it a supercomputer, and it’s the size of a lunchbox.

Behind the scene, the Drive PX 2 features 12 different cores representing 8 teraflops of calculation power, 24 deep learning tera operations per second. The company is using a 16nm architecture, and it’s a hungry beast as it requires 250W of power. Finally, Nvidia is using a liquid-cooling system. Because the PX 2 will be used in cars, that’s not too much of a problem and Nvidia argues that car manufacturers will just plug the device into their existing cooling solutions.

http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/04/nvidia-announces-new-drive-px-2-supercomputer-in-a-lunchbox-for-self-driving-cars/?ncid=rss (http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/04/nvidia-announces-new-drive-px-2-supercomputer-in-a-lunchbox-for-self-driving-cars/?ncid=rss)

Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 03:39:09 PM
A blowjob while driving will become legal.
Or......... become standard.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Dave D on January 08, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
They will never become standard unless the government mandates it. Actually, it might be a similar hot-topic subject comparable to gun control in about 50 years.

Real men (and women) who enjoy cars, will never go for such absurdity. For some people, driving a car, relaxes them like someone who enjoys working out.

Manually driving a car will never go out of style.

People thought the same thing about free television, land line telephones, Atari/Sega game systems, cigarettes and wearing seat belts.

Think of how many people who you've heard say they would never own a cell phone (for whatever reason)... Today most of us know 9 year old children with cell phones.  Many homes no longer have land lines, unless it's a part of their Internet service.  Current automobiles could end up being a similar novelty if the price is right.

Driverless cars won't be pushed to the over 30 crowd. For younger generations it could be a way of life.

Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 03:54:15 PM
They will never become standard unless the government mandates it. Actually, it might be a similar hot-topic subject comparable to gun control in about 50 years.

Real men (and women) who enjoy cars, will never go for such absurdity. For some people, driving a car, relaxes them like someone who enjoys working out.

Manually driving a car will never go out of style.

That's like saying driving a car with a manual transmission will never go out of style. :-X

Even high performance cars have dual clutch transmissions now.  Never under estimate how lazy people are.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 03:56:37 PM
People thought the same thing about free television, land line telephones, Atari/Sega game systems, cigarettes and wearing seat belts.

Think of how many people who you've heard say they would never own a cell phone (for whatever reason)... Today most of us know 9 year old children with cell phones.  Many homes no longer have land lines, unless it's a part of their Internet service.  Current automobiles could end up being a similar novelty if the price is right.

Driverless cars won't be pushed to the over 30 crowd. For younger generations it could be a way of life.


Bad comparisons. You are talking about selling convenience. For car lovers, the driving experience is a way of life.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Croatch on January 08, 2016, 03:56:43 PM
I'm just going to hold out for the flying car.  It shouldn't be much longer now.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Simple Simon on January 08, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
Caitlyn Jenner will be able to start texting behind the wheel again.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Army of One on January 08, 2016, 04:07:14 PM
Once driverless cars are safer then humans driving, which will likely be on release, I suspect it will soon be against the law to drive it yourself.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Dave D on January 08, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
Bad comparisons. You are talking about selling convenience. For car lovers, the driving experience is a way of life.
Oh ok.

I'm talking about generational and cultural shifts. You're looking at a small segment of society.

"True car drivers", people who love the experience, aren't talking or texting while going down the highway. Today's modern driver looks at driving as a chore and burden not an adventure.

I never said these would completely replace cars as we know them, there is a whole economic system that is dependent on manually driven automobiles.

However if Ford and GM are investigating the potential for them, it's safe to assume they will be planning on pushing them.

But troll on.

Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: cart@@n on January 08, 2016, 04:08:34 PM
End of privacy, full government control and taxation over human transportation, among other things.


Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: cart@@n on January 08, 2016, 04:09:46 PM
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Dave D on January 08, 2016, 04:10:32 PM
End of privacy, full government control and taxation over human transportation, among other things.




This I believe.

More governmental control and a larger police state.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2016, 04:10:49 PM
Once driverless cars are safer then humans driving, which will likely be on release, I suspect it will soon be against the law to drive it yourself.
This scenario is still decades (or more) away. Maybe even 100+ years. This isn't the movies, the world would have to change it's entire infrastructure.

Compare the time from Icarus to the Wright brothers.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 04:11:48 PM
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/568ac88add0895fb768b462a-2700-1424/volvo-and-ericsson-developing-intelligent-media-streaming-for-self-driving-cars-2-hr.jpg)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Army of One on January 08, 2016, 04:13:12 PM
This scenario is still decades (or more) away. Maybe even 100+ years. This isn't the movies, the world would have to change it's entire infrastructure.

Compare the time from Icarus to the Wright brothers.

Depends how it works, think about this, with these cars when you aren't in them they can be off being used by others, you may just pay so much a month and get picked up by whichever random car happens to be nearest.You wouldn't even need your own car.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 08, 2016, 04:14:28 PM
Depends how it works, think about this, with these cars when you aren't in them they can be off being used by others, you may just pay so much a month and get picked up by whichever random car happens to be nearest.You wouldn't even need your own car.

Bingo!  ;)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Dave D on January 08, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
This scenario is still decades (or more) away. Maybe even 100+ years. This isn't the movies, the world would have to change it's entire infrastructure.

Compare the time from Icarus to the Wright brothers.

Hahaha you think you're so smart by saying this?

These cars aren't completely developed yet of course we are years away from it being an everyday reality, but no one said it's happening tomorrow or next year.


 100 years from happening......
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2016, 12:19:54 AM
IF it could properly avoid the idiots on the road that we have to dodge to avoid on a daily basis, I'd love it.

All that extra time we could be productive, take a nap, eat, or post on getbig while the car gets us there.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: CalvinH on January 09, 2016, 05:15:06 AM
As long as women get behind the wheel they'll find a way to crash them.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: The Scott on January 09, 2016, 05:29:26 AM
The blind will get to drive.  Legally.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Radical Plato on January 09, 2016, 05:31:36 AM
Drink Driving here we come.

And what about all the foreigners driving taxis, won't be good for those fellas.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: The Scott on January 09, 2016, 05:33:15 AM
As long as women get behind the wheel they'll find a way to crash them.

Winning.  Good one, Cal.  ;D
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: dr.chimps on January 09, 2016, 06:15:23 AM
Well, these driverless cars probably have an automatic turn signal, so that's a positive.  :-\
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 09, 2016, 08:33:37 AM
My opinion is this will be the most transformative technology in the coming years.  Driverless cars will be the killer app for artificial intelligence in the same way the spreadsheet was the killer app for the PC.  It'll also drive consumption for super computes because few people currently need 8 teraflops of calculating power.  

Also, I think most people would rather do other things in the car than drive.  For example, watch a movie, surf the net, catch up on emails, sleep, ...   So the adaption rate will be quit brisk.  
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 09, 2016, 08:40:29 AM
How people view driverless cars around the world.
(http://www.iyogiinsights.com/files/2015/12/self-driving-cars.jpg)


China and India have a very positive opinion of the technology.  If I lived in a country with half a billion Asian women driving, I would be positive about self driving cars too.  :D
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 09, 2016, 08:43:40 AM
(http://marketmadhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/autonomous-car-19-638.jpg)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: TuHolmes on January 09, 2016, 08:45:43 AM
How people view driverless cars around the world.
(http://www.iyogiinsights.com/files/2015/12/self-driving-cars.jpg)

China and India have a very positive opinion of the technology.

Probably because percentage wise, those countries do not have a lot of people driving. If you can't drive, you feel fine letting something else drive for you.

A lot of poor people in those countries that don't own cars.
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 09, 2016, 09:00:54 AM
Probably because percentage wise, those countries do not have a lot of people driving. If you can't drive, you feel fine letting something else drive for you.

A lot of poor people in those countries that don't own cars.


Maybe they're just tired of the traffic and insane Asian drivers. :-\
(http://www.hindustantimes.com/rf/image_size_640x362/HT/p1/2014/10/09/Incoming/Pictures/1273632_Wallpaper1.jpg)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Palumboism on January 09, 2016, 09:39:07 AM
Study: Driverless cars to be 15% of global sales by ’30

Michael Martinez, The Detroit News
A new report predicts that by 2030, 15 percent of global automotive sales will be of fully autonomous cars, and the industry will continue to undergo massive technological changes.

The report by McKinsey & Company — a consulting firm that studies automotive trends — touches on a number of trends, including the increased adoption of shared mobility companies like Uber and Lyft, the expected proliferation of electric vehicles thanks to government regulation, the continued rise in auto sales and the advancements in driverless car technology.

The biggest takeaway from “Automotive Revolution – Perspective Towards 2030” is that the auto industry and driver needs are evolving, and automakers had better be ready to change with the times.

“What we are going through is the most unprecedented time of disruptive change in the automotive industry as it transforms itself into a mobility industry,” Hans-Werner Kaas, a senior partner in McKinsey’s automotive practice, said in an interview. “Consumer needs are changing fast and in more real time today, therefore understanding them is very critical.”

The report found that, especially in cities and other densely populated areas, the importance of vehicle ownership is declining. Thanks to ride-sharing services like Uber and Lyft, and car-sharing services like Zipcar, the share of young people (age 16-24) that hold a driver’s license dropped from 76 percent in 2000 to 71 percent in 2013, while there has been over 30 percent annual growth in car sharing members in North America and Germany over the last five years.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/01/04/mckinsey-report-driverless-cars/78246944/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/01/04/mckinsey-report-driverless-cars/78246944/)
Title: Re: How Will Driverless Cars Change How We Live?
Post by: Dave D on January 09, 2016, 09:48:00 AM
Study: Driverless cars to be 15% of global sales by ’30

Michael Martinez, The Detroit News
A new report predicts that by 2030, 15 percent of global automotive sales will be of fully autonomous cars, and the industry will continue to undergo massive technological changes.

The report by McKinsey & Company — a consulting firm that studies automotive trends — touches on a number of trends, including the increased adoption of shared mobility companies like Uber and Lyft, the expected proliferation of electric vehicles thanks to government regulation, the continued rise in auto sales and the advancements in driverless car technology.

The biggest takeaway from “Automotive Revolution – Perspective Towards 2030” is that the auto industry and driver needs are evolving, and automakers had better be ready to change with the times.

“What we are going through is the most unprecedented time of disruptive change in the automotive industry as it transforms itself into a mobility industry,” Hans-Werner Kaas, a senior partner in McKinsey’s automotive practice, said in an interview. “Consumer needs are changing fast and in more real time today, therefore understanding them is very critical.”

The report found that, especially in cities and other densely populated areas, the importance of vehicle ownership is declining. Thanks to ride-sharing services like Uber and Lyft, and car-sharing services like Zipcar, the share of young people (age 16-24) that hold a driver’s license dropped from 76 percent in 2000 to 71 percent in 2013, while there has been over 30 percent annual growth in car sharing members in North America and Germany over the last five years.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/01/04/mckinsey-report-driverless-cars/78246944/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/01/04/mckinsey-report-driverless-cars/78246944/)

Highly unlikely. This is a mere 15 years from now and Shizzo made it clear that this was DECADES, meaning multiple 10 year time spans, from happening.

Troll somewhere else Detroit news.