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Title: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Howard on January 19, 2016, 06:31:42 AM
Any getbiggers out there have some actual cardio and/or strength goals for 2016?

My BIG goal is to break 30 min in a legit 5k road race, by this fall.
I'm heavy and slow now, so I need to be realistic.
That's about 9:40 a mile pace and for me would be kickin' ass.
I know, that's turtle slow for many , but, wtf, at least I'm honest.

PS/ No desire for bodybuilding or muscle size goals .
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Radical Plato on January 19, 2016, 07:02:23 AM
Any getbiggers out there have some actual cardio and/or strength goals for 2016?

My BIG goal is to break 30 min in a legit 5k road race, by this fall.
I'm heavy and slow now, so I need to be realistic.
That's about 9:40 a mile pace and for me would be kickin' ass.
I know, that's turtle slow for many , but, wtf, at least I'm honest.

PS/ No desire for bodybuilding or muscle size goals .
You'll never do it.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: bigmikecox on January 19, 2016, 07:08:04 AM
To be able to do HIIT cardio on the stepper for 30 minutes by the begining of my prep that starts in the end of March. Im at 10 minutes so far

Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: OB1 on January 19, 2016, 07:13:02 AM
My new years resolution is 1920x1080.
HTH.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: _aj_ on January 19, 2016, 07:38:30 AM
Arm size. What the fuck else is there? Homos.
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Post by: Max on January 19, 2016, 08:20:28 AM
Fully recover from my ACL reconstruction and get my basic strength and balance back to a point where I can build on it after the Doctors give me the all clear.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 19, 2016, 08:29:54 AM
To be able to do HIIT cardio on the stepper for 30 minutes by the begining of my prep that starts in the end of March. Im at 10 minutes so far



Hey How is the stepper? I typically do running.  My wife keeps challenging me to do this with her. She doesn't think I can do HIIT on that thing for 30 mins. 
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2016, 09:27:24 AM
Hey How is the stepper? I typically do running.  My wife keeps challenging me to do this with her. She doesn't think I can do HIIT on that thing for 30 mins. 

If it's the stepmill, pictured below, it's vicious.
(http://jillfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/stepmill-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 19, 2016, 09:38:09 AM
If it's the stepmill, pictured below, it's vicious.
(http://jillfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/stepmill-1.jpg)

Really? Maybe I won't accept my wife's challenge. It's looks so easy
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: residue on January 19, 2016, 09:38:20 AM
Hey How is the stepper? I typically do running.  My wife keeps challenging me to do this with her. She doesn't think I can do HIIT on that thing for 30 mins. 

30 mins of hiit is kinda extreme isnt it?
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2016, 09:39:10 AM
Really? Maybe I won't accept my wife's challenge. It's looks so easy

If you do it on a decent speed, there's no way to rest....if you don't hold the handles, it's even harder.....see if you can give it a shot when she's not around.  ;D

I'm in 10x cardio shape since the last time I had access to one...so maybe that could be a factor in my recollection of it.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Yamcha on January 19, 2016, 09:39:35 AM
Really? Maybe I won't accept my wife's challenge. It's looks so easy

If it is truly HIIT, I would avoid

But if it is just intervals of higher step rate, then it is very doable.
That machine got me into contest shape.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 19, 2016, 09:43:17 AM
If it is truly HIIT, I would avoid

But if it is just intervals of higher step rate, then it is very doable.
That machine got me into contest shape.

Seriously? I'm a cardio fanatic, it's changed my physique a lot, but the running is getting hard on my knees. What was your strategy when doing this?  HIIT or just a steady pace for a set time?
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: OB1 on January 19, 2016, 09:44:31 AM
Seriously? I'm a cardio fanatic, it's changed my physique a lot, but the running is getting hard on my knees. What was your strategy when doing this?  HIIT or just a steady pace for a set time?

I went from running to biking.
Helped a lot.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Yamcha on January 19, 2016, 09:45:00 AM
Seriously? I'm a cardio fanatic, it's changed my physique a lot, but the running is getting hard on my knees. What was your strategy when doing this?  HIIT or just a steady pace for a set time?

Never did HIIT. I didn't have energy for that. I slowly increased the pace from 75 steps/min. up to 110 over the 30-45 minutes I was on.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: residue on January 19, 2016, 09:45:39 AM
Seriously? I'm a cardio fanatic, it's changed my physique a lot, but the running is getting hard on my knees. What was your strategy when doing this?  HIIT or just a steady pace for a set time?

is the sled an option for you?
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2016, 09:54:08 AM
Never did HIIT. I didn't have energy for that. I slowly increased the pace from 75 steps/min. up to 110 over the 30-45 minutes I was on.
Good enough to make changes and on the subject of HIIT cardio who really does it Balls to walls? most do a watered down version. Too much talk about HIIT in my opinion. as long as you up the pace changes will occur. Fartlek training we did years ago (speed play) nothing new just these HIIT people get excited about it.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Howard on January 19, 2016, 10:01:13 AM
Good enough to make changes and on the subject of HIIT cardio who really does it Balls to walls? most do a watered down version. Too much talk about HIIT in my opinion. as long as you up the pace changes will occur. Fartlek training we did years ago (speed play) nothing new just these HIIT people get excited about it.

Good post and I think the key is to vary the pace intensity and active recovery interval.

Just be honest and objective with your performance regardless of the machine or method .
As I get older, cardio fitness is starting to take over as my main goal.

At this point , it's quite a challenge for me.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Howard on January 19, 2016, 10:03:04 AM
To be able to do HIIT cardio on the stepper for 30 minutes by the begining of my prep that starts in the end of March. Im at 10 minutes so far



My key indicator was being able to do 100 floors on the original stair stepper under 20 min.
Some might laugh at that, but it always wore my ass out.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 19, 2016, 10:05:19 AM
is the sled an option for you?

Yes it is. That definitely looks like a good workout. How much time would you allocate per session for this?
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Howard on January 19, 2016, 10:18:39 AM
Yes it is. That definitely looks like a good workout. How much time would you allocate per session for this?

30 - 40min is the ideal in my opinion, at a good , steady pace.
Less then 20 is too intense and over an hr is too low intensity.

I've seen a lot of bodybuilders do those sit down /layback exercise bikes for 90 min at very low intensity.
I guess that's a good way to lose fat, but seems fairly ineffective for cardio fitness?
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 19, 2016, 10:22:04 AM
Get my test levels up to around the high range with TRT (1100), shed around 8 lbs...
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Post by: _aj_ on January 19, 2016, 11:13:14 AM
Yes it is. That definitely looks like a good workout. How much time would you allocate per session for this?

I have a sled and a Prowler. 20 minutes at reasonable intensity should pretty much finish you.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: residue on January 19, 2016, 11:48:22 AM
Yes it is. That definitely looks like a good workout. How much time would you allocate per session for this?

15-20mins, once it gets easy up the weight... it never gets easy
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2016, 11:53:50 AM
I have a sled and a Prowler. 20 minutes at reasonable intensity should pretty much finish you.

Yup....vicious.

I did Tabata battle ropes - ALL OUT  20 sec on / 10 off for 4 total minutes.   Almost puked.  Max effort is a must though.

Plus, I did it after an hour of conditioning....but still.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Red Hook on January 19, 2016, 03:25:38 PM
You'll never do it.  Hope this helps.

^^ this  ::)

Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Radical Plato on January 19, 2016, 03:51:00 PM
Hey How is the stepper? I typically do running.  My wife keeps challenging me to do this with her. She doesn't think I can do HIIT on that thing for 30 mins. 
Steppers are great.  I used do to the cross trainer religiously but one busy day when they were all taken I jumped on the stepper, since hardly anyone ever uses it.  I was like damn this is tougher than it looks, certainly tougher than the cross trainer, so I usually use the stepper for my cardio at the minute.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: cephissus on January 19, 2016, 06:19:35 PM
Seriously? I'm a cardio fanatic, it's changed my physique a lot, but the running is getting hard on my knees. What was your strategy when doing this?  HIIT or just a steady pace for a set time?

Get a bike

Better than any other cardio machine
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: OB1 on January 19, 2016, 08:06:21 PM
Get a bike

Better than any other cardio machine

+1
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: flinstones1 on January 19, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Depends on your goals. If you wanna get healthier, hop on a bike and go all out. If your a serious strength trainee and trying to get as big and strong as possible riding a bike will only hurt your progress and recovery.   Cardio needs to be done right. 30-45 minutes  tops keeping the heart rate between 120 and 130 bpm.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Red Hook on January 22, 2016, 09:09:34 AM
Depends on your goals. If you wanna get healthier, hop on a bike and go all out. If your a serious strength trainee and trying to get as big and strong as possible riding a bike will only hurt your progress and recovery.   Cardio needs to be done right. 30-45 minutes  tops keeping the heart rate between 120 and 130 bpm.

 ::)  why?

what about intervals or HIT
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: _aj_ on January 22, 2016, 09:22:45 AM
::)  why?

what about intervals or HIT

And that's the sound of a broscience bubble being burst.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2016, 09:32:04 AM
::)  why?

what about intervals or HIT
what about them ? depends on your fitness and overall goals.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Howard on January 22, 2016, 12:02:09 PM
Steppers are great.  I used do to the cross trainer religiously but one busy day when they were all taken I jumped on the stepper, since hardly anyone ever uses it.  I was like damn this is tougher than it looks, certainly tougher than the cross trainer, so I usually use the stepper for my cardio at the minute.

That was the form of cardio I used when I competed .
I used the original stair master and 20-30 min was a great workout
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on January 22, 2016, 12:24:24 PM
I want to OHP 135
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: Howard on January 22, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
These "pissing contests" on the best form of  cardio is silly and ego driven.

Looky here, the deal is to get moving, get your heart going for awhile and avoid injury.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: bigmikecox on January 22, 2016, 01:15:42 PM
Hey How is the stepper? I typically do running.  My wife keeps challenging me to do this with her. She doesn't think I can do HIIT on that thing for 30 mins. 

That SOB kicks my ASS!!!  Nothing else like it. Even 20 minutes on that is harder than 30 on the treadmill
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: flinstones1 on January 22, 2016, 03:24:30 PM
::)  why?

what about intervals or HIT

Basically low intensity cardio keeping your heart rate under 150 bmp  causes an adaptation where your left ventricle stretches and gets wider. The intensity is just high enough to  where the blood can remain in there long enough to actually stretch  out  the heart walls. The result is a more efficient heart and  improved recovery between workouts. With HIT the heart is working so hard to pump blood in and out that you don't get this adaptation, your only left with the heart wall getting thicker.  Which is great for health and all but has no benefit to a guy training for strength.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: flinstones1 on January 22, 2016, 03:31:06 PM
And that's the sound of a broscience bubble being burst.

For a weekend warrior trying to bench 315 that plays pickup basketball on the weekends sure, my advice is for the  serious guys. Guys benching double bodyweight and pulling triple bodyweight already  who've been stuck at the same lifts for years.
Title: Re: Cardio and/or strength goals?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on January 22, 2016, 05:22:13 PM
700 raw bench, yes I'm a fat fuck but 700 is still 700!!!
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Post by: _aj_ on January 22, 2016, 06:01:33 PM
700 raw bench, yes I'm a fat fuck but 700 is still 700!!!

I couldn't lift 700 with a fucking car jack. Props.