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Migration crisis can destroy Europe, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls says
By Ashley Cowburn 1/22/16
Europe cannot take in all the refugees fleeing war-torn Syria and Iraq and the migration crisis is putting the European Union in grave danger, the French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has said.
Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Mr Valls added that Europe needed to take urgent action to control its external borders. “Otherwise,” he said, “our societies will be totally destabilised”.
Asked whether the Schengen agreement – the passport free zone on the European continent – was on the verge of collapse as a result of the on-going migration crisis, he said: “No, it’s Europe that can die, not the Schengen area. If Europe is not capable of protecting its own borders.
“The European project, not Europe as much. Not our values, but the concept of Europe that our founding fathers had, yes it is in very grave danger. That’s why you need border guards and controls outside the European Union. Sometimes we had the feeling that borders did not exist. No, borders do exist so you have to protect them.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/migration-crisis-can-destroy-europe-says-french-prime-minister-manuel-valls-a6826676.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/migration-crisis-can-destroy-europe-says-french-prime-minister-manuel-valls-a6826676.html)
This is the first time I've ever heard a European politician say something that makes sense. :-\
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Agreed.
Though He Probably will be sacked / removed for speaking such truth.
Or made to retract his statement.
On the positive we can only hope others will now grow a backbone
& stand up & speak out over this ridiculous & Very Dangerous Situation.
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"the concept of Europe that our founding fathers had"
What the fuck is Valls, that f@ggot, talking about?
He may be the PM of France, but he's no Frenchman. He's Swiss/Spanish. No wonder he cares about "Europe" more than he cares about France.
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Why has no one asked why Arab countries more amenable to an influx of Arabs won't accept these refugees? Like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar or even Pakistan? Why should any European country take them in when their own kind have the resources and refuse to do so? It's like the Trojan Horse all over again.
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"the concept of Europe that our founding fathers had"
What the fuck is Valls, that f@ggot, talking about?
He may be the PM of France, but he's no Frenchman. He's Swiss/Spanish. No wonder he cares about "Europe" more than he cares about France.
I thought it was strange that a French politician said something that makes sense.
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No shit
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Why has no one asked why Arab countries more amenable to an influx of Arabs won't accept these refugees? Like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar or even Pakistan? Why should any European country take them in when their own kind have the resources and refuse to do so? It's like the Trojan Horse all over again.
They know better, LOL!
Look at what happened to Lebanon and Syria after the Palestinians were displaced.
Also (and I'm not trying to start shit) many in those countries probably feel this is payback for the Israel/Palestine mess Europe/NATO created after WWII.
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They know better, LOL!
Look at what happened to Lebanon and Syria after the Palestinians were displaced.
Also (and I'm not trying to start shit) many in those countries probably feel this is payback for the Israel/Palestine mess Europe/NATO created after WWII.
Yeah, Israel/Palestine mess had nothing to do with Nazis.
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Yeah, Israel/Palestine mess had nothing to do with Nazis.
That mess wouldn't have existed if the land was taken from those who exterminated the Jews instead of Palestinians.
They'd still have other messes without Israel being re-created.
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I thought it was strange that a French politician said something that makes sense.
Some context: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12113163/Davos-leaders-fear-Brexit-may-be-deathknell-for-EU.html
Valls is begging Britain not to leave the EU. The migrant comment -- although correct -- was a calculated afterthought designed to placate UK "conservatives". Valls is an absolute f@ggot.
Also, Britain should abso-fucking-lutely leave the EU.
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I thought it was strange that a French politician said something that makes sense.
Maybe some kind of misspelling...
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Some context: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/12113163/Davos-leaders-fear-Brexit-may-be-deathknell-for-EU.html
Valls is begging Britain not to leave the EU. The migrant comment -- although correct -- was a calculated afterthought designed to placate UK "conservatives". Valls is an absolute f@ggot.
Also, Britain should abso-fucking-lutely leave the EU.
And what would really change...? They'd still be a nanny-state with thousands of immigrants coming in, particularly Pakistanis and Indians.
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And what would really change...? They'd still be a nanny-state with thousands of immigrants coming in, particularly Pakistanis and Indians.
At least there'd be the possibility of change. Right now, too many of our laws and regulations are the product of unelected EU bureaucrats. (Here's one that really annoys me: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-vaping-laws-everything-you-need-to-know-a6796206.html - https://cigelectric.co.uk/e-cig-uk-regulation-2016/)
As things stand, the UK is not even a democracy. We have little say in our laws, and electoral rules are designed to keep the political class in power. If Britain leaves the EU, maybe things will start changing. And don't forget: Whites still outnumber muds, the UK is a heroic country, and the English are a heroic race. There is no denying the fact that England forged the greatest empire the world has ever seen. I may be wrong, but I don't think that we're going to end with a whimper.
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It took the massacre in Paris to make them realize that?
It goes without saying that Not All Muslims Are Like That, but Left-leaning voters have all but rolled out the red carpet for the ones that come from cultures where they're more likely to be Like That. There's more to come, I'm afraid.
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At least there'd be the possibility of change. Right now, too many of our laws and regulations are the product of unelected EU bureaucrats. (Here's one that really annoys me: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-vaping-laws-everything-you-need-to-know-a6796206.html - https://cigelectric.co.uk/e-cig-uk-regulation-2016/)
As things stand, the UK is not even a democracy. We have little say in our laws, and electoral rules are designed to keep the political class in power. If Britain leaves the EU, maybe things will start changing. And don't forget: Whites still outnumber muds, the UK is a heroic country, and the English are a heroic race. There is no denying the fact that England forged the greatest empire the world has ever seen. I may be wrong, but I don't think that we're going to end with a whimper.
Wouldn't it be great to have a one man, one vote system... Fixing boundaries to guarantee results is pretty shitty
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Why has no one asked why Arab countries more amenable to an influx of Arabs won't accept these refugees? Like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar or even Pakistan? Why should any European country take them in when their own kind have the resources and refuse to do so? It's like the Trojan Horse all over again.
Well said.
This does Need asking.
Seems to me that them countries know better than the rest of Europe.
Absolute Bollocks letting in so much utter scum that hate us & our way of life.
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At least there'd be the possibility of change. Right now, too many of our laws and regulations are the product of unelected EU bureaucrats. (Here's one that really annoys me: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-vaping-laws-everything-you-need-to-know-a6796206.html - https://cigelectric.co.uk/e-cig-uk-regulation-2016/)
As things stand, the UK is not even a democracy. We have little say in our laws, and electoral rules are designed to keep the political class in power. If Britain leaves the EU, maybe things will start changing. And don't forget: Whites still outnumber muds, the UK is a heroic country, and the English are a heroic race. There is no denying the fact that England forged the greatest empire the world has ever seen. I may be wrong, but I don't think that we're going to end with a whimper.
Just remember they gave away the British Empire without a fight and didn't even reelect Churchill after saving them.
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Well said.
This does Need asking.
Seems to me that them countries know better than the rest of Europe.
Absolute Bollocks letting in so much utter scum that hate us & our way of life.
You guys are screwed.
I'm only curious if we can learn from your mistake in time or people are gullible enough to believe political spin and write all of Europe's problems off as intolerance, racism, bigotry, etc...
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You guys are screwed.
I'm only curious if we can learn from your mistake in time or people are gullible enough to believe political spin and write all of Europe's problems off as intolerance, racism, bigotry, etc...
I hope you do learn before its to late.
i'm looking at getting out of here & have family in the states. ;)
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The countries and cultures the West should be learning from are: Japan, South Korea and Thailand.
Countries that are proud of their history and culture and have laws to protect their heritage and limit foreign ownership and immigrants.
They do not have political correctness, feminism, hate communists, are nationalist, manufacture their own goods for export, are capitalist and the people have a lot of freedom.
The West has lost the plot, our current warped version of 'liberalism' and multiculturalism are failed experiments.
Look at South Africa, this is the future of multiculturalism, except Europe will be even worse.
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I hope you do learn before its to late.
i'm looking at getting out of here & have family in the states. ;)
No more immigrants.
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The countries and cultures the West should be learning from are: Japan, South Korea and Thailand.
Countries that are proud of their history and culture and have laws to protect their heritage and limit foreign ownership and immigrants.
They do not have political correctness, feminism, hate communists, are nationalist, manufacture their own goods for export, are capitalist and the people have a lot of freedom.
The West has lost the plot, our current warped version of 'liberalism' and multiculturalism are failed experiments.
Look at South Africa, this is the future of multiculturalism, except Europe will be even worse.
You make a lot of very good valid points.
Liberalism & multiculturalism ::)
Words & thoughts of the Self haters
And traitors.
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Why has no one asked why Arab countries more amenable to an influx of Arabs won't accept these refugees? Like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar or even Pakistan? Why should any European country take them in when their own kind have the resources and refuse to do so? It's like the Trojan Horse all over again.
1. With the exception of Paki, those wealthy Arab nations ( above) are run by a king /royal family .
The top% of wealthy connected relatives and business partners live well, the rest don't do so well.
The last thing they want is bunch of needy refugees , sucking off their royal teets.
2. Plus, nobody in those wealthy oil producing OPEC nations wants more potential terrorists to attack an oil field or major pipeline.
3. In my opinion, diversity without merit , just for the sake of diversity, is a good way to bring everyone down.
Imagine if ANY pro sport, opted to increase "diversity" by allowing a % of their athletes to be Joe Blow avg dude.
Soccer has ever kind of ethnicity, race, and color on the pitch at the highest level.
BUT, entry to the elite level is based on ability to perform in the game.
Adding a few Joe Schmoe's would only pull down the performance of any team with them on the roster.
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1. With the exception of Paki, those wealthy Arab nations ( above) are run by a king /royal family .
The top% of wealthy connected relatives and business partners live well, the rest don't do so well.
The last thing they want is bunch of needy refugees , sucking off their royal teets.
2. Plus, nobody in those wealthy oil producing OPEC nations wants more potential terrorists to attack an oil field or major pipeline.
3. In my opinion, diversity without merit , just for the sake of diversity, is a good way to bring everyone down.
Imagine if ANY pro sport, opted to increase "diversity" by allowing a % of their athletes to be Joe Blow avg dude.
Soccer has ever kind of ethnicity, race, and color on the pitch at the highest level.
BUT, entry to the elite level is based on ability to perform in the game.
Adding a few Joe Schmoe's would only pull down the performance of any team with them on the roster.
The same could be said of every profession and yet the continue to enforce affirmative action.
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The same could be said of every profession and yet the continue to enforce affirmative action.
Agree. I just used sports as my example.
In my view, it's far better to use the criteria of decent, hard working people as the ideal
REGARDLESS of race or religion.
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The same could be said of every profession and yet the continue to enforce affirmative action.
How many people do you personally know who were directly harmed by or benefitted from Affirmative Action?
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How many people do you personally know who were directly harmed by or benefitted from Affirmative Action?
Is this a kind of "gimme 10 names" test?
Sorry...Couldn't resist! ;D
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Is this a kind of "gimme 10 names" test?
Sorry...Couldn't resist! ;D
People carp about AA relatively often that it should be easy to pull up some examples.
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How many people do you personally know who were directly harmed by or benefitted from Affirmative Action?
I work at a large company and I see affirmative action every single day. I'm an engineer yet all my bosses have been women. I remember when I was in College looking out in an engineering class of over 500 student and seeing maybe ten women.
On the flip side there is someone who applied for those management positions who didn't get it because they needed to fill a quota. I would not have a problem with any of this if a felt the best people were hired and promoted. I know that's not the case.
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I work at a large company and I see affirmative action every single day. I'm an engineer yet all my bosses have been women. I remember when I was in College looking out in an engineering class of over 500 student and seeing maybe ten women.
On the flip side there is someone who applied for those management positions who didn't get it because they needed to fill a quota. I would not have a problem with any of this if a felt the best people were hired and promoted. I know that's not the case.
You do know that more women grad college, grad school, law school than men do, right? So maybe that is a result of that.
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People carp about AA relatively often that it should be easy to pull up some examples.
I know that! No...Really I do! A Marine I knew years ago told me this and I have to paraphrase from memory:
Fairness has no place on the frontlines. You can either do the job or get yourself or someone else killed. Because if you didn't make it to here on your own you may be carried out by those that did. Or have to drag them back because you couldn't hack it.
For the record, he was a Gunny in the U.S. Marines at M.C.R.D. San Diego and our Marines don't give a fook what color you are because they're brothers of the blood and it all runs red. A Marine's blood runs red, white and blue.
And yeah...The Gunny was a black guy but he would say more than that he was an American. No one would say otherwise to him that knew him.
I knew what you meant, but perhaps you did not get what I thought was a Getbig running joke. ;D
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You do know that more women grad college, grad school, law school than men do, right? So maybe that is a result of that.
I know, but in engineering it is still majority male because women just don't like engineering. Where's the affirmative action in nursing and teaching making sure fifty percent are male?
I really don't care about affirmative action. I know that companies that don't hire and promote the best people will fail. Exactly like Howard explained.
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I know, but in engineering it is still majority male because women just don't like engineering. Where's the affirmative action in nursing and teaching making sure fifty percent are male?
I really don't care about affirmative action. I know that companies that don't hire and promote the best people will fail. Exactly like Howard explained.
Yes, imagine an entire country that does this, it's called South Africa and forces private companies to employ people according to racial percentages of the population and then also forces companies to give shares to black workers.
The same applies to education...
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Why has no one asked why Arab countries more amenable to an influx of Arabs won't accept these refugees? Like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar or even Pakistan? Why should any European country take them in when their own kind have the resources and refuse to do so? It's like the Trojan Horse all over again.
Of course Arab countries don't want the Muslim refugees. It costs money and it's dangerous. The same reason Europe shouldn't accept them.
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OK?
As in, I personally don't know anyone who screwed a grapefruit, so nobody ever did it. ::)
So you deduce that tons of people are grapefruit 'lovers'?
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Letting in a few millions migrants from the middle east under the definition of refugee status was the epitome of stupidity and naivety. Millions of people are not true refugees, more like relocating a whole country. Many of those people have no interest in assimilation even if they are peaceful, they want to build little Muslim communities and continue their laws and traditions. The leftists are out of control...more interested in mixing cultures than protecting their people. After reading that story where hundreds of middle eastern migrants sexually assaulted more than a hundred women on new years even shows how stupid this idea was, just one example of the crimes being committed by migrants.
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I know, but in engineering it is still majority male because women just don't like engineering. Where's the affirmative action in nursing and teaching making sure fifty percent are male?
I really don't care about affirmative action. I know that companies that don't hire and promote the best people will fail. Exactly like Howard explained.
They actually are LOOKING and ENCOURAGING males to go into those fields.
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You do know that more women grad college, grad school, law school than men do, right? So maybe that is a result of that.
You do know that grad college, grad school, law school have become feminist institutions catering to women's needs and not men's. So maybe that is a result of that.
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They actually are LOOKING and ENCOURAGING males to go into those fields.
I guess those quotas will be filled when we get women down the mines, logging trees and fighting wars.
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Read something this morning about a new French law basically taking away citizenship from people who go and fight along side terrorists and or do bad things in the country.
We need something like that here.