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GOP Primary Winner: ?
Dem Primary Winner: ?
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GOP: Cruz
Dem: Hillary
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I love cruz, but he has no chance. The Trumpettes are in love with him.
I hate hilary, but she'll cheat and win in the south easily.
Trump Vs. Hilary, as they've planned. Trump will likely bow out, give less than 100% effort, or 'accidentally' admit in a debate "really, I think Hilary might be a better choice..." ;)
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GOP Primary Winner: ?
Dem Primary Winner: ?
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GOP: Cruz
Dem: Hillary
Really don't know. I've never seen anything like this. Hillary's possible indictment could change everything. Absent an indictment, she is the Democrat nominee. Even with an indictment, she still might be the nominee.
No clue on the Republican side. I don't believe Trump will be the nominee. I think it will come down to Cruz, Rubio, Jeb, and Christie. Rubio is probably the most electable of that group, but I don't know who comes out on top at the end of the day.
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Really don't know. I've never seen anything like this. Hillary's possible indictment could change everything. Absent an indictment, she is the Democrat nominee. Even with an indictment, she still might be the nominee.
No clue on the Republican side. I don't believe Trump will be the nominee. I think it will come down to Cruz, Rubio, Jeb, and Christie. Rubio is probably the most electable of that group, but I don't know who comes out on top at the end of the day.
Yeah i see it the same way pretty much.
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Cruz won't be getting it. He's a cornball that reminds everyone of the kid that sat in the back of class and ate his own boogers.
Trump won't get it. Though if he did, I would seriously consider voting for him simply for the entertainment factor.
Rubio is a schmuck. Jeb might pull a Romney and get it by default simply by being the only one left standing at the end.
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I love cruz, but he has no chance. The Trumpettes are in love with him.
I hate hilary, but she'll cheat and win in the south easily.
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Hard to say. What we're seeing is unprecedented.
My guess is that Trump wins it on the Republican side. The only other one I see as having a chance is Cruz, but I can't quantify his chances, especially against Trump. I don't think anyone else matters. Bush is done for, Rubio will expertly play the part of the oiled-up Cuban boytoy at a pool party, Christie is the fatso in the "NEW JERSEY SHORE YO" wife-beater shirt that sits near the buffet and tells everyone that he didn't eat any of the chips from the now empty bowl, Kasich is the guy that keeps yelling "Hey, guys! The Governor of Ohio is on TV!" and Ryan is well... not going to win.
On the Democratic side it's hard to say. If we weren't deep into the twilight zone, Clinton would be the expected candidate on the (D) side of the ticket. I think right now it's 50/50... people keep dismissing Bernie Sanders and he's still around and polling strong. Of course, the same could be said of Howard Dean before his campaign imploded. Hillary is still holding on to her pantsuit pants and pretending that she's the clear and undisputed front-runner. Martin O'Malley is busy taking his jacket off, rolling his sleeves up and getting ready to pack his campaign up.
Bottom line... who the fuck knows? What I can say with certainty is that neither Trump nor Cruz are candidates I'd cast a vote for in the general election and I'd never vote for Hillary or Sanders. So that leaves me with the option of hitting the gym and training legs and skipping the general, or voting for a third-party candidate. So leg day it is.
I'll predict the obviously ridiculous matchup of Trump v. Sanders, a fight that will be long-remembered as the Battle of the Hair.
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Hard to say. What we're seeing is unprecedented.
My guess is that Trump wins it on the Republican side. The only other one I see as having a chance is Cruz, but I can't quantify his chances, especially against Trump. I don't think anyone else matters. Bush is done for, Rubio will expertly play the part of the oiled-up Cuban boytoy at a pool party, Christie is the fatso in the "NEW JERSEY SHORE YO" wife-beater shirt that sits near the buffet and tells everyone that he didn't eat any of the chips from the now empty bowl, Kasich is the guy that keeps yelling "Hey, guys! The Governor of Ohio is on TV!" and Ryan is well... not going to win.
who is "Ryan"?
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who is "Ryan"?
Ryan? I thought I typed Rand. The iPhone must have "autocorrected" me.
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Looks like Trump/Hil...but I'm voting for Ted. The rest aren't conservatives. We'll see if Trump made a mistake by whining about the media. If he's as good as he thinks he is he should be able to outwit or atleast answer Kelly. I think he's a fraud but we'll see
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Looks like Trump/Hil...but I'm voting for Ted. The rest aren't conservatives. We'll see if Trump made a mistake by whining about the media. If he's as good as he thinks he is he should be able to outwit or atleast answer Kelly. I think he's a fraud but we'll see
Trump has no reason to attend the debate - there's nothing positive that come out of it and he gains a lot more by not participating; everyone is talking about him and who's talking about the rest?
I don't like Trump either, but I don't think this is about outwitting Kelly or anyone else. It's about not just playing the game, but about exploiting the rules to his own advantage, and he's done so masterfully. Since Trump joined the fracas, nothing else has mattered. It's been Trump, Trump, Trump. You're seeing the rise of a new kind of candidate and a new kind of politician.
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It's been Trump, Trump, Trump. You're seeing the rise of a new kind of candidate and a new kind of politician.
Trump is a lifetime master marketer. Put his resume in anyone else's hands... massive inheritance which has underperformed historically + 4 bankruptcies + numerous public feuds + multiple marriages and affairs with married woman = a disgraceful, disgusting amoral jerk born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Trump has just painted that trash can gold so many times, his followers think it's actual gold.
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Trump is a lifetime master marketer. Put his resume in anyone else's hands... massive inheritance which has underperformed historically + 4 bankruptcies + numerous public feuds + multiple marriages and affairs with married woman = a disgraceful, disgusting amoral jerk born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Trump has just painted that trash can gold so many times, his followers think it's actual gold.
+1
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Trump and Clinton
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I love cruz, but he has no chance. The Trumpettes are in love with him.
I hate hilary, but she'll cheat and win in the south easily.
Trump Vs. Hilary, as they've planned. Trump will likely bow out, give less than 100% effort, or 'accidentally' admit in a debate "really, I think Hilary might be a better choice..." ;)
Great thread, Ozmo.
I don't believe Trump will be the nominee.
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Bernie Vs Trump
Bernie easily beats Trump in the general election as all data shows.
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I love cruz, but he has no chance. The Trumpettes are in love with him.
I hate hilary, but she'll cheat and win in the south easily.
Trump Vs. Hilary, as they've planned. Trump will likely bow out, give less than 100% effort, or 'accidentally' admit in a debate "really, I think Hilary might be a better choice..." ;)
This one worked out well.
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Trump and Clinton
God damn I'm good.
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God damn I'm good.
And quite humble too.
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And quite humble too.
Trump up 4 on Hillary in Ohio and tied in Pennsylvania and Florida. Before even stepping on stage with her.
I would vote for a retarded monkey with an R next to his name over Hillary at this point.
This election is about Justice Scalia and possibly Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
A vote for Gary Johnson rather than Trump is a vote for a liberal Supreme Court.
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Trump up 4 on Hillary in Ohio and tied in Pennsylvania and Florida. Before even stepping on stage with her.
I would vote for a retarded monkey with an R next to his name over Hillary at this point.
This election is about Justice Scalia and possibly Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
A vote for Gary Johnson rather than Trump is a vote for a liberal Supreme Court.
That assumes you trust and believe in Trump to nominate someone like Scalia rather than his sister.
I'm not one of those willing to put my faith and trust in a barely literate con man like Trump. Trump as a possible president is the most unfunny cruel joke of my political life. This is worse than when the Democrat party legitimized Al Sharpton.
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That assumes you trust and believe in Trump to nominate someone like Scalia rather than his sister.
I'm not one of those willing to put my faith and trust in a barely literate con man like Trump. Trump as a possible president is the most unfunny cruel joke of my political life. This is worse than when the Democrat party legitimized Al Sharpton.
trump is a direct reflection of the unchecked nature of the repub party.
Half of the party gave obama his budget and were shady typical establishment bitches. (RINOs)
Half of the party prided themselves on violence, anger, ignorance, anti-education. (tea party)
Trump is what happens when those 2 breed. You end up with a lifetime RINO establisment dude - which trump is - who screams about violence and anger.
Toss in 12 of 13 alinsky tactics, adopt obama's 2008 campaign (substitute the vague "make america great" for the vague "change we can believe in" and voila, you have a candidate that republicans could not pass up.
I never thought the repubs could choose someone that'd make this polarizing, lying, evil shinn Hilary actually look acceptable to swing voters. They have.
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God damn I'm good.
Don't count your chickens just yet...
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That assumes you trust and believe in Trump to nominate someone like Scalia rather than his sister.
I'm not one of those willing to put my faith and trust in a barely literate con man like Trump. Trump as a possible president is the most unfunny cruel joke of my political life. This is worse than when the Democrat party legitimized Al Sharpton.
Yeah he's going to elect his sister to the Supreme Court ::)
Yeah real plausible scenario there.
This election for me is SUPREME COURT.
I know what Hillary is going to do.
If you want to cast that die and help to reinforce her making that decision with a Gary Johnson(Hillary vote by proxy), so be it. Just be honest and own the consequences over the next 20 to 30 years.
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Yeah he's going to elect his sister to the Supreme Court ::)
Yeah real plausible scenario there.
He said she would make an excellent justice.
There are no actual requirements for SCOTUS.
even if congress blocks, he can appoint her for 1 year at a time if he wants.
He's notorious for nepotism in his own companies - and many far right conseratives believe he'll show nepotism as president.
http://www.cwpac.org/home/would-trump-show-nepotism-if-he-were-president
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Yeah he's going to elect his sister to the Supreme Court ::)
Yeah real plausible scenario there.
This election for me is SUPREME COURT.
I know what Hillary is going to do.
If you want to cast that die and help to reinforce her making that decision with a Gary Johnson(Hillary vote by proxy), so be it. Just be honest and own the consequences over the next 20 to 30 years.
You are missing the point. He's not going to nominate his sister. (And he cannot "elect" anyone.) He's going to nominate someone who is like his sister.
I know exactly what Hillary will do. I also know much of what Trump will do and the parts I am unsure about concern me a great deal.
What do I need to be honest about? My opposition to Trump is pretty clear.
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I think there is a nepotism law concerning the president of the U.S....it was put in place after Kennedy appointed his brother Robert to Attorney General.
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You are missing the point. He's not going to nominate his sister. (And he cannot "elect" anyone.) He's going to nominate someone who is like his sister.
I know exactly what Hillary will do. I also know much of Trump will do and the parts I am unsure about concern me a great deal.
What do I need to be honest about? My opposition to Trump is pretty clear.
It's easy to see why you have been wrong this entire time.
What a stupid statement.
He runs a mostly conservative platform then turns right around early 2017 and shits all over his constituents with a liberal Supreme Court justice.
You are so delusional because of your emotional hate towards this guy.
And it's nothing personal, I think you do a fantastic job of moderating this forum but wow what a leap of logic you are attempting with that stance.
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It's easy to see why you have been wrong this entire time.
What a stupid statement.
He runs a mostly conservative platform then turns right around early 2017 and shits all over his constituents with a liberal Supreme Court justice.
You are so delusional because of your emotional hate towards this guy.
And it's nothing personal, I think you do a fantastic job of moderating this forum but wow what a leap of logic you are attempting with that stance.
What's stupid is putting faith in the person we have seen during this campaign. I'm not willing to ignore what I saw, and continue to see. The man is dishonest. When exactly did Trump become a conservative? Six months ago? ::)
Stop making stuff up. You are starting to sound like 240. Nothing I've said about Trump is either emotional or hatred. I've given you facts. Like the fact he donated to Democrats, spoke highly of Hillary, and called his liberal sister a good judge. You can ignore those facts, and his abject dishonesty on the campaign, but I will not.
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It's easy to see why you have been wrong this entire time.
What a stupid statement.
He runs a mostly conservative platform then turns right around early 2017 and shits all over his constituents with a liberal Supreme Court justice.
You are so delusional because of your emotional hate towards this guy.
And it's nothing personal, I think you do a fantastic job of moderating this forum but wow what a leap of logic you are attempting with that stance.
you were going good there until you said he was doing a fantastic job moderating the forum...then you lost me :D
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When exactly did Trump become a conservative? Six months ago? ::)
Maybe never, actually.
Trump: This Is the Republican Party, It’s Not Called the Conservative Party
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Maybe never, actually.
Trump: This Is the Republican Party, It’s Not Called the Conservative Party
Smart man.
Conservatives can't win presidential elections these days.
Would be nice if they could but then again at some point people need to face this thing called reality.
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I love cruz, but he has no chance. The Trumpettes are in love with him.
I hate hilary, but she'll cheat and win in the south easily.
Trump Vs. Hilary, as they've planned. Trump will likely bow out, give less than 100% effort, or 'accidentally' admit in a debate "really, I think Hilary might be a better choice..." ;)
LOL - you sound like 333 ranting about how Obama was going to back resign before the 2012 convention or the Dems were going to kick him out at the convention
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Conservatives can't win presidential elections these days.
conservatives cannot win the NOMINATION these days. Trump, Romney, McCain... all notorious RINOs.
the last conservatives to run? Bush (2 wins, branded wisely as a compassionate conservative), Bush1 (would have won twice if not for perot) and Reagan (2 wins)
Repubs aren't smart enough to run a conservative again, and they keep losing. Hilary is as shit beatable as they come - old, ugly, under investigation, lying, despised in her own party - this should be a ten-point blowout for any decent republican candidate.
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conservatives cannot win the NOMINATION these days. Trump, Romney, McCain... all notorious RINOs.
the last conservatives to run? Bush (2 wins, branded wisely as a compassionate conservative), Bush1 (would have won twice if not for perot) and Reagan (2 wins)
Repubs aren't smart enough to run a conservative again, and they keep losing. Hilary is as shit beatable as they come - old, ugly, under investigation, lying, despised in her own party - this should be a ten-point blowout for any decent republican candidate.
So Cruz wasn't a Conservative? What was he then?
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So Cruz wasn't a Conservative? What was he then?
of course he was. what do you mean?
repub voters aren't smart enough to nominate a conservative anymore.
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of course he was. what do you mean?
repub voters aren't smart enough to nominate a conservative anymore.
In 2012 you said that if a true conservative ran that an unknown silent majority of Republicans (who normally don't vote) would come out of the woodwork and overwhelmingly put him into office.
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In 2012 you said that if a true conservative ran that an unknown silent majority of Republicans (who normally don't vote) would come out of the woodwork and overwhelmingly put him into office.
they would - in the general election.
think of the years where there was a huge conservative candidate or set of candidates - all repub victories - they won with WOMEN these years too:
80, 84, 88, 2000, 2004 and 2010. Does anyone think Trump will win with women? lol!
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they would - in the general election.
think of the years where there was a huge conservative candidate or set of candidates - all repub victories - they won with WOMEN these years too:
80, 84, 88, 2000, 2004 and 2010. Does anyone think Trump will win with women? lol!
This makes no sense
The Primaries are where the rabid right wing Repubs show up which is why all the Repubs try to "out-crazy" each other in the primary
When the nominee faces the national electorate they have to appeal to independent, waivering Dems, etc...so they try to pivot to the center (just like Romney and McCain did)
You're suggesting that rabid unknown group of right wingers will sit out the primaries and then show up for the general if their far right wing hero somehow becomes the nominee (the same person they couldn't be bothered to show up for in the primaries?)
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The Primaries are where the rapid right wing Repubs show up which is why all the Repubs try to "out-crazy" each other in the primary
says who? history says otherwise. rabid right wing is Iowa, sure. But NH ? No way.
And if it's Trump vs. Cruz all along, the numbers are way different. 17 candidates pulling votes?
that women stat is accurate. When repubs win with women, they win those elections big. Dems won the other years - and you know those results.
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says who? history says otherwise. rabid right wing is Iowa, sure. But NH ? No way.
And if it's Trump vs. Cruz all along, the numbers are way different. 17 candidates pulling votes?
that women stat is accurate. When repubs win with women, they win those elections big. Dems won the other years - and you know those results.
so why do all Repubs act like hard core right wingers in the primary and then try to pivot to the center in the general
Think about the audience in the primary (only people in their party and only those so engaged in politics as to vote in a primary)
Dude, this is something you've already said before
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so why do all Repubs act like hard core right wingers in the primary and then try to pivot to the center in the general
Think about the audience in the primary (only people in their party and only those so engaged in politics as to vote in a primary)
Dude, this is something you've already said before
educated voters know when a lifetime liberal like trump is pretending. they know romeny isn't "severely conservative" as he claimed.
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educated voters know when a lifetime liberal like trump is pretending. they know romeny isn't "severely conservative" as he claimed.
well the joke is gonna be on Trumps uneducated fans when he "likely bows out" as you said on page 1 of this thread
It will be hard for him to go out in public once he does that