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RIP
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RIP
RIP. Isn't he that vegan bodybuilder?
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That's sad, may he RIP
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rip
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2many veggies?
2much iron?
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Decades ago Jim owned and operated a gym in West Hollywood, Calif. I stopped in once to check about joining. I talked to Jim and he seemed like a nice person. I decided to join another gym and have always looked back on that as a poor choice and a big mistake. Had I joined Jim's gym and gotten to know him, I think he could have been really helpful to me in my body building.
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He was a guest at my first contest, the 1978 AAU Mr Eastern Seaboard in Greenwich, Conn.
Great show promoted by Mike Katz with Bill Pearl, Dave Johns and Chris Dickerson.
Jim and the others dressed and acted like real gentlemen.
I was only 19 and met Jim Morris briefly after the prejudging.
He shook my hand , looked me in the eye and greeted me properly.
I left the show, proud to become a bodybuilder.
Sadly, he has passed way at 80, which is an avg lifespan.
Jim Morris conducted himself well in public and was a good role model for bodybuilding.
RIP Jim, it was an honor to meet him.
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Wow, even though he was old, I'm still a tiny bit shocked by this. Here he is at 79, still in great shape, and still sharp mentally -
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RIP.
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Awesome evolution. May he rest in peace.
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Was the guy pretty broke? Hard to live past 80 without good health insurance.
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Long before he won Mr America it was common knowledge, at least in bodybuilding circles, that Jim Morris was gay.
In the AAU Mr America, like the Miss America contest, points were given for interview skills. Jim told me the story that during his interview for the 73 Mr A, Mable Rader (Perry's wife) who was one of the judges, asked him in the interview if he had a girlfriend. Jim said that everyone on that committee knew he was gay. He replied "Oh Mable, you know I don't have time to date anyone."
http://musclememory.com/showArticle.php?md10098
side note: Peter Grymkowski was second in the Mr A that year. There is no wiki page for him. Has he ever been married? have children?
Decades ago Jim owned and operated a gym in West Hollywood, Calif.
Jim Morris Gym, location is now the parking structure for CVS at Santa Monica Blvd and LaCienega. When Jim sold it, it became the Athletic Club. Lots of very big gay boys there.
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Long before he won Mr America it was common knowledge, at least in bodybuilding circles, that Jim Morris was gay.
In the AAU Mr America, like the Miss America contest, points were given for interview skills. Jim told me the story that during his interview for the 73 Mr A, Mable Rader (Perry's wife) who was one of the judges, asked him in the interview if he had a girlfriend. Jim said that everyone on that committee knew he was gay. He replied "Oh Mable, you know I don't have time to date anyone."
http://musclememory.com/showArticle.php?md10098
side note: Peter Grymkowski was second in the Mr A that year. There is no wiki page for him. Has he ever been married? have children?
Jim Morris Gym, location is now the parking structure for CVS at Santa Monica Blvd and LaCienega. When Jim sold it, it became the Athletic Club. Lots of very big gay boys there.
jim was a bodyguard and a friend to elton john...
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;D
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and w john lennon
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Shawn Ray is reporting suicide, brought on by depression, one hopes that it turns out to be false :-\ -
Breaking News:
"Update:
Word on the street.
Cause of death- Suicide by Gun Shot.
Depression issues.
Looking into confirmation.
Strength & Honor!"
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/154883-RIP-Old-School-Bodybuilder-Jim-Morris/page2 .
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Damn, RIP :-\
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Shawn Ray is reporting suicide, brought on by depression, one hopes that it turns out to be false :-\ -
Breaking News:
"Update:
Word on the street.
Cause of death- Suicide by Gun Shot.
Depression issues.
Looking into confirmation.
Strength & Honor!"
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/154883-RIP-Old-School-Bodybuilder-Jim-Morris/page2 .
Damn, I hope that's not true
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Was the guy pretty broke? Hard to live past 80 without good health insurance.
And if you're not rich, there's really no point living past 80.
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A real gentlemen. Class act. PIP Jimmy.
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A real gentlemen. Class act. PIP Jimmy.
That sums it up pretty well!
I hope heaven has a good gym and he's up there pumping . :)
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Question about Grymkowski:
side note: Peter Grymkowski was second in the Mr A that year. There is no wiki page for him. Has he ever been married? have children?
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Don't know for certain on Grymkowski, but here's what I think. I saw him with partner and infant at a bodybuilding show about 5 years ago. So yes, I think he's married. He looked lean but healthy. I had read that he had heart issues compounded by substance abuse a while back but moved out of LA (desert/Palm Springs not sure?) and now is doing fine. If anyone has better info, I would be interested too.
And with Morris, any history of depression? Or was this unique developments in getting older, health, etc? Seems like he had lots of self confidence and this would be out of character: open about himself long before anyone in bodybuilding owned up to that, friends with old timers like Pearl, honored by City of LA out at Venice Beach, vegetarian, etc.? What gives?
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PIP. Old dudes with depression often have cancer or dementia or or something that was revealed to them. Don't want to get eaten up and have awful last few years.
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Long before he won Mr America it was common knowledge, at least in bodybuilding circles, that Jim Morris was gay.
In the AAU Mr America, like the Miss America contest, points were given for interview skills. Jim told me the story that during his interview for the 73 Mr A, Mable Rader (Perry's wife) who was one of the judges, asked him in the interview if he had a girlfriend. Jim said that everyone on that committee knew he was gay. He replied "Oh Mable, you know I don't have time to date anyone."
http://musclememory.com/showArticle.php?md10098
side note: Peter Grymkowski was second in the Mr A that year. There is no wiki page for him. Has he ever been married? have children?
Jim Morris Gym, location is now the parking structure for CVS at Santa Monica Blvd and LaCienega. When Jim sold it, it became the Athletic Club. Lots of very big gay boys there.
Who cares if he was gay? Oh yeah...People whose lives revolve around gayness. Morris was more than just gay. Sheesh...
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Who cares if he was gay? Oh yeah...People whose lives revolve around gayness. Morris was more than just gay. Sheesh...
Jim Morris was a gay pioneer, out before it was safe to be so. An out and proud gay black man in the 70s. Yes that is something to acknowledge and honor.
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Shawn Ray is reporting suicide, brought on by depression, one hopes that it turns out to be false :-\ -
Breaking News:
"Update:
Word on the street.
Cause of death- Suicide by Gun Shot.
Depression issues.
Looking into confirmation.
Strength & Honor!"
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/154883-RIP-Old-School-Bodybuilder-Jim-Morris/page2 .
Good for him, went out on his own terms when he decided he had had enough.
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Jim Morris was a gay pioneer, out before it was safe to be so. An out and proud gay black man in the 70s. Yes that is something to acknowledge and honor.
Haha, oh brother ::)
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Probably ran out of test. Poor fella, was a good man, but it must be boring to live when all your friends are dead already or crippled beyond repair and you're still jacked sexy black man you have always been. Being gay doesn't help either.
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Jim Morris was a gay pioneer, out before it was safe to be so. An out and proud gay black man in the 70s. Yes that is something to acknowledge and honor.
RIP to Jim Morris but he was not gay. He played the limp wrist to get in with Elton John and make good money as his bodyguard. Behind the scenes he was fuckin Kiki Dee back in the 70's but as long as he complimented Elton on his choice of shoes or whatever he got away with it. The gay community are soooooo gullible.
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Memorial Day 2015 at the "Home of Bodybuilding" in Venice
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Jim Morris was a gay pioneer, out before it was safe to be so. An out and proud gay black man in the 70s. Yes that is something to acknowledge and honor.
Not hardly. Do you even remotely fathom must how totally ghey nazi the term "gay pioneer" reads? I was alive in the 70s and no one I knew that was straight or homosexual gave a Flying Burrito Brothers album about Morris and his sexual preferences. If your entire existence is based upon your sexual preference and being out and proud (another ghey Nazi term) then your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
In other words. Get a real life, not a pathetic pseudo pioneer of one.
Morris was an excellent Mr. America and from what little I know of him, a nice guy. The hand has been pulled from the bucket of life and the ripples from that act have long since dissipated. Fame, even in something as pioneering as being an "out and proud gay black man in the 70s" is even more fleeting than life itself.
Sheesh.
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Looked amazing at every stage in those pics. Not sure I even heard of him before and that's a shame.
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Jim Morris was a gay pioneer, out before it was safe to be so. An out and proud gay black man in the 70s. Yes that is something to acknowledge and honor.
::) jeez what is it with you Queers.
Acknowledge & Honor.. ::)
Really Get over yourselves own self importance.
No doubt your praising that other Queer Weirdo
Bruce Jenner.
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RIP to Jim Morris but he was not gay. He played the limp wrist to get in with Elton John and make good money as his bodyguard. Behind the scenes he was fuckin Kiki Dee back in the 70's but as long as he complimented Elton on his choice of shoes or whatever he got away with it. The gay community are soooooo gullible.
So he was a crypto-homo?
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So he was a crypto-homo?
he was a practitioner of pseudo bumfoolery. in pursuit of Elton's pink dollar rather then his rusty sheriff's badge.
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RIP to Jim Morris but he was not gay. He played the limp wrist to get in with Elton John and make good money as his bodyguard.
well, the few times I met him for lunch he self identified as gay, and had lots of great stories about who was sleeping with who, who was available for pay, who he had dated, etc. As I wrote above, he told me "everyone on the (1973 Mr America judging) committee knew that I was gay."
And yes, gays today owe a lot to the men and women who were open about their sexuality in the 70s and 80s when it wasn't always safe to do so.
(DaveyWavey rant, watch at your own risk)
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And yes, gays today owe a lot to the men and women who were open about their sexuality in the 70s and 80s when it wasn't always safe to do so.
But doesn't that just encourage more men to become gay? Won't the human race die out if everyone turns gay or lesbian? Seems like irresponsibility to me.
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well, the few times I met him for lunch he self identified as gay, and had lots of great stories about who was sleeping with who, who was available for pay, who he had dated, etc. As I wrote above, he told me "everyone on the (1973 Mr America judging) committee knew that I was gay."
And yes, gays today owe a lot to the men and women who were open about their sexuality in the 70s and 80s when it wasn't always safe to do so.
(DaveyWavey rant, watch at your own risk)
Pot calling the kettle a Hebrew. Hamsters. Elderberries. Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!
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But doesn't that just encourage more men to become gay? Won't the human race die out if everyone turns gay or lesbian? Seems like irresponsibility to me.
Could you "become" gay?
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Could you "become" gay?
Ask Shizzo... ;D
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Could you "become" gay?
So many of today's bodybuilding chumps do just that to "earn" their gaycheck.
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well, the few times I met him for lunch he self identified as gay, and had lots of great stories about who was sleeping with who, who was available for pay, who he had dated, etc. As I wrote above, he told me "everyone on the (1973 Mr America judging) committee knew that I was gay."
And yes, gays today owe a lot to the men and women who were open about their sexuality in the 70s and 80s when it wasn't always safe to do so.
(DaveyWavey rant, watch at your own risk)
It had always been my understanding that he was an openly gay man. And clearly ahead of his time.
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Could you "become" gay?
Well I read somewhere that the testosterone levels of 18 year olds is now 20% lower than it was in the 80's so if you combine this with lots of guys spouting gay stuff down your throat we could have an epidemic.
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Well I read somewhere that the testosterone levels of 18 year olds is now 20% lower than it was in the 80's so ifyou combine this with lots of guys spouting gay stuff down your throatwe could have an epidemic.
LOL!!!! Gay men usually spout gay stuff down throats!!! Are you offering your throat?
Seriously, you sure don't know much about being gay. Either you are or you aren't, although a tiny minority of people are bisexual. No straight person was ever "converted."
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Ask Shizzo... ;D
He's free for grabs, hurry up!
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Well I read somewhere that the testosterone levels of 18 year olds is now 20% lower than it was in the 80's so if you combine this with lots of guys spouting gay stuff down your throat we could have an epidemic.
the rate of homosexuality hasn't changed. Just fewer people are living miserable lives lying to themselves and their spouses. That's a good thing
And one trip to a circuit dance party any time in the last 30 years would make you think there was a positive correlation between testosterone (of the injectable kind) and being gay.
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Rumor said that he comitted suicied ?
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the rate of homosexuality hasn't changed. Just fewer people are living miserable lives lying to themselves and their spouses. That's a good thing
Well that's a relief that there aren't any more of them than there used to be. I think we can all agree on that.
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Rumor said that he comitted suicied ?
Yes I've heard this too..
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PIP.
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But doesn't that just encourage more men to become gay? Won't the human race die out if everyone turns gay or lesbian? Seems like irresponsibility to me.
Staggering stupidity.
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Staggering stupidity.
Exactly, why would the gay fellows want to champion something which could lead to the end of the human race?
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I used to chat with him on his old website after talking to him on Ironage.com........seeme d like a really nice guy.
RIP
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Exactly, why would the gay fellows want to champion something which could lead to the end of the human race?
I always said that about religion and priests.
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Sad to hear. I remember Jim from when I used to train at World Venice. A nice guy and a true gentleman.
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And he looked pretty sickly towards the end. I wonder if he had cancer.
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Rip.
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Rumor said that he comitted suicied ?
he was being evicted.
some ppl are bashing the people evicting him with all this "how could you!?" and "sick and heartless"...
listen, dipshits, this is America... when you don't pay your rent the person youre renting from still (usually) has to pay the mortgage on the place you're living AND is counting on profits on top of that to eat.
what? just because he's old he shouldn't have to pay rent? get the fuck outta here with that socialist bullshit.
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he was being evicted.
some ppl are bashing the people evicting him with all this "how could you!?" and "sick and heartless"...
listen, dipshits, this is America... when you don't pay your rent the person youre renting from still (usually) has to pay the mortgage on the place you're living AND is counting on profits on top of that to eat.
what? just because he's old he shouldn't have to pay rent? get the fuck outta here with that socialist bullshit.
I don't take kindly to disrespect...
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he was being evicted.
some ppl are bashing the people evicting him with all this "how could you!?" and "sick and heartless"...
listen, dipshits, this is America... when you don't pay your rent the person youre renting from still (usually) has to pay the mortgage on the place you're living AND is counting on profits on top of that to eat.
what? just because he's old he shouldn't have to pay rent? get the fuck outta here with that socialist bullshit.
You are correct ,That is true.
Then again this is 2016 we as a society are meant to be
Advanced, caring & compassionate.
Sadly that goes out the window when a mortgage & profits
Are at stake.
Not much to look forward too for a lot of people when they
Get older.
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Ken Sprague had dinner with Jim and others 1 or 2 years ago, said he looked fine.
The funny thing was, when the waiter brought out a big bowl full of meatballs, Jim ate a shite load of them.
Part time vegetarian maybe?
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Ken Sprague had dinner with Jim and others 1 or 2 years ago, said he looked fine.
The funny thing was, when the waiter brought out a big bowl full of meatballs, Jim ate a shite load of them.
Part time vegetarian maybe?
I'm guessing beans and rice are pretty cheap