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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on February 11, 2016, 02:44:22 PM
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;D
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Man lands on the moon.
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Man lands on the moon.
When?
;D
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Just imagine what FMW would do to him. KO in under 30 seconds.
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Man, the Big guy was eating jabs for breakfast, lunch and dinner! ;D
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Man, the Big guy was eating jabs for breakfast, lunch and dinner! ;D
and dessert.
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Should be retitled huge untrained guy spars with trained boxer. ::)
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That dosen't mean shit. The big guy could have used his only advantage, weight and smashed him against the corner and not let him out.
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Wow, a boxer excelled at boxing. I imagine the weightlifter would excel at weight lifting. I also suspect the outcome would be entirely different in a street fight that didn't restrict holds and require breaks.
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there is actually a documentary about the the weighlifter, it is called strongman.
guy has done ok for himself.
if he knew some wrestling or grapping he could hurt the boxer for sure.
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If the big guy knew anything about boxing it might have been over much sooner.
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If the big guy knew anything about boxing it might have been over much sooner.
He was not too bad at keeping his guard up but what long 2 min. Was still hoping he's destroy the skinny dude.
The big guy has nothing to gain in any way by doing that. Say he won, people would say "yeah but that wasen't fair, he's so much bigger..."
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Eddie Hall has quite a bit of experience in boxing, just at a basic level. He's trained and sparred for years, and had amateur bouts too. Fact is, he's just not very good at it, and he isn't built for the sport, nor trains specifically for it either.
What you're seeing here is just the gulf that exists between different levels. Scott Lawton was a professional; not a particularly great one but a respectable boxer with years and years of experience. He wasn't even sparring hard here and could have really put a beating on Eddie if he wanted to. All the "yeah but if it was a street-fight" talk is bullshit too. It would be over even quicker if both agreed to fight with no rules.
Are you sure Lawton has the KO skills to finish Hall with his first punch? Because against the 4th strongest man in the world (not just gym strong, but mobile and explosive) that is all the chance he will get.
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Falcon >
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eddie moved well for a big guy
he is built to lift heavy shit
not dance round the ring throwing jabs my mum could take
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Nonsense. One guy dedicates himself to picking up heavy objects and putting them back down, the other guy is a professional fighter who dedicates himself to the art of hitting and not getting hit. Every advantage that the boxer has inside the ring, he also has outside of the ring too, except he also has the advantage of not being constrained by Queensbury rules. His footwork, timing and reflexes mean that he'd have smacked him a dozen times before Eddie even got close to him, and he also has the advantage of not being an inanimate object if he ends up getting grabbed. Why wouldn't he bite, gouge and knee just like every other man would?
You guys seem to think that a boxer would be like a fish out of water outside of the ring. Most these guys got into boxing because they were always in street fights when they were younger anyway, and they've spent years in the gym fighting most days a week, enduring punches and dishing them out in return. The only exceptions in this fantasy scenario would be copious amounts of alcohol and/or if Eddie decided to attack him without warning.
Exactly. A lot of the blokes I trained with in boxing gyms were no stranger to GBH charges.
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Nonsense. One guy dedicates himself to picking up heavy objects and putting them back down, the other guy is a professional fighter who dedicates himself to the art of hitting and not getting hit. Every advantage that the boxer has inside the ring, he also has outside of the ring too, except he also has the advantage of not being constrained by Queensbury rules. His footwork, timing and reflexes mean that he'd have smacked him a dozen times before Eddie even got close to him, and he also has the advantage of not being an inanimate object if he ends up getting grabbed. Why wouldn't he bite, gouge and knee just like every other man would?
You guys seem to think that a boxer would be like a fish out of water outside of the ring. Most these guys got into boxing because they were always in street fights when they were younger anyway, and they've spent years in the gym fighting most days a week, enduring punches and dishing them out in return. The only exceptions in this fantasy scenario would be copious amounts of alcohol and/or if Eddie decided to attack him without warning.
You are missing that fighting is not only about stand up striking. If the big guy tried a take down with some choke or G&P, it would have been over pretty quickly.
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You are missing that fighting is not only about stand up striking. If the big guy tried a take down with some choke or G&P, it would have been over pretty quickly.
Exactly. Sure, Lawson can survive by keeping his distance (running away), but he cannot go to-to-toe in a no-holds barred fight in a confined area with someone this strong and heavy. And again: mobile. This is not some puffed-up BBer training to pose in thongs and suck dick, this is one of the strongest men on earth who specifically trains to be mobile and explosive. With his grip strength, all that Hall needs to do is get one hand on Lawson and it is over. Not by a clean KO, probably Hall cannot punch for shit, but someone who holds the DL WR and is close to the log press WR can probably finish a fight somehow. Think Hoost vs Sapp, but with Hoost being 40 Lbs lighter and Sapp 40 Lbs heavier and a lot stronger.
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most street fights end up in a grappling match
also if you look on youtube at boxers getting involved in scuffles at weigh inns etc
it always ends up as a wrestling match
people only fight like that when the rules are you can only punch
cant overcome human instinct
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The big man would have been destroyed by a 155lbs UFC fighter even if it went to the ground.
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The big man would have been destroyed by a 155lbs UFC fighter
A pro boxer can't win on the ground, so now he magically turns into a pro MMA fighter? Why not give him an extra 50 Lbs while you're busy moving the goal posts.
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Any way you slice it, if this was a on-the-flash physical altercation, the boxer would have been broken and left in a mutilated heap within one minute.
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lets see this boxer pressing an improbably large log over his head while bleeding from his nose and shouting incoherently 8)
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Here is an interesting video about his body fat measurements:
https://www.facebook.com/eddiehallwsmlegend/videos/903874139733033/
397 lbs and 25% body fat so that would be bout 300 pounds at 0% at 6 ft 2 1⁄2 in.
If the boxer gets too close it`s game over ;D
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Boxing is very technical. The strongman is carrying too much mass to punch effectively for more than a minute or two. Also he doesn't have a height or reach advantage on his opponent so he can't use his size as much as he would need to. However a decently trained pro heavyweight would probably be able to drop the smaller boxer pretty easily. Only an idiot would be surprised that a strongman can't beat a pro boxer at a boxing match. 2 different crafts.
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I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....
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I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....
And would love to see the sniper defeat the guy who pilots a chopper the likes of Air Wolf.
What is the point of your example???
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And would love to see the sniper defeat the guy who pilots a chopper the likes of Air Wolf.
What is the point of your example???
I'd love to see that chopper matched up against a heat seeking missle! ::)
I think my point is obvious, the boxer wins a boxing match against anyone who isnt a boxer (unless it's Lenny McClain because he could've beat a prime Tyson), a strongman wins a strongman contest, an assassin can kill untrained people and so on.
Yes there might be a time that a 50 year old janitor will notice some scribbling on a blackboard at Havard and quickly realize the error and easily solve the algorithm but usually in life people who are trained in some area are better than those untrained.
Ritch why are you so uptight? Are you still upset about that chick you hired to move your refrigerator backed out?
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Man, the Big guy was eating jabs for breakfast, lunch and dinner! ;D
A very large target.
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Gents, it's a pretty trivial debate, lets not get too excited here. There's no real way of knowing but the point still stands: Eddie Hall's power and explosiveness hasn't carried over into the ring, as he's getting battered in a light sparring match by the boxer - as you would obviously expect; it is no surprise at all which is why i don't get why anyone would think the tables would suddenly turn in a fight without gloves and with no rules; he's going to be getting battered even quicker by a professional fighter, most likely. We aren't talking about him fighting a man on the street. Sure if it goes to the ground then he's going to have an advantage in weight, but he's not a wrestler or MMA fighter, so that is the only advantage he has. I'd still say that he'd end up missing his nose but i'd concede there is a chance that a 310lb untrained guy might end up winning if he's on top of him. i would bet the fight's over before that happened, though.
You keep making the same mistake. Yes, maybe the boxer has more options when the gloves come off and there are no rules. But so does the strongman! Suddenly Hall can clinch like a mofo, can grab any limb that is exposed and fully control the twink. Again: if Hall can use his strength (especially grip) it is lights out for the tiny boxer.
You also coveniently forgot to address the Hoost vs Sapp example.
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FUCK U EAT SHIT. WAS WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN 4 TWO FUCKING MINUTES: NOTING FUCKEN HAPPEND...
MONEY BACK!!!!!!!!!
Worst thread fucking ever!
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Anything can happen in a fight, but you would usually bet on the trained fighter to win. However, there will come a point where the size and strength difference can overcome the differences in skill. Generally, being bigger and stronger than your opponent is a major advantage in a fight.
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Sure, i'd agree. I'd bet on the Pro boxer being able to finish Hall pretty quick in a no-rules fight, based on the video, but I'd also agree that Hall is clearly a really big, strong guy which is going to be an advantage if he gets hold of someone and doesn't want to let go. I used to spar heavyweights a lot, and cross-train with a few of them in MMA - when they were at a novice level then they couldn't do anything, no matter the size. But against good heavyweight guys at the same level then i'd be destroyed if i fought them. A well-trained big guy will for the most part, always beat a well-trained little guy, but in the case of weightlifter vs a professional fighter, i'd say that in most instances, the gulf in skill and experience would be a much bigger factor in the outcome than size advantage. A lot would depend on the individual temperaments of the guys too, though. I guess the only way is to have a whip round and see if we can persuade them both to go at it for getbigs amusement.
are you 5 and 0 brah
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Sure, i'd agree. I'd bet on the Pro boxer being able to finish Hall pretty quick in a no-rules fight, based on the video, but I'd also agree that Hall is clearly a really big, strong guy which is going to be an advantage if he gets hold of someone and doesn't want to let go. I used to spar heavyweights a lot, and cross-train with a few of them in MMA - when they were at a novice level then they couldn't do anything, no matter the size. But against good heavyweight guys at the same level then i'd be destroyed if i fought them. A well-trained big guy will for the most part, always beats a well-trained little guy, but in the case of weightlifter vs a professional fighter, i'd say that in most instances, the gulf in skill and experience would be a much bigger factor in the outcome than size advantage. A lot would depend on the individual temperaments of the guys too, though. I guess the only way is to have a whip-round and see if we can persuade them both to go at it for getbigs amusement.
This is a BB forum. I think most of us will be more interested to see which one wins the real battle - posing on a stage in a shiny thong. :D
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I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....
I'd like to see how tough an expert marksman, like Chris Kyle is when a deranged ex-vet with severe PTSD shoots him point blank in the back of the head all because the man was trying to help him. ;D
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I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....
Hell yeah
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I'd like to see how tough an expert marksman, like Chris Kyle is when a deranged ex-vet with severe PTSD shoots him point blank in the back of the head all because the man was trying to help him. ;D
Hahahaha!
Checkmate!
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are you 5 and 0 brah
It was the "whip round" to organise the fight that I spotted. ;D
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Lots of "big guys" getting upset at the notion that their bulk may not serve them well in a fight
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Lots of "big guys" getting upset at the notion that their bulk may not serve them well in a fight
If by "big" you mean overweight than yes, because there's no big weightlifting types on this site bruh.
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If by "big" you mean overweight than yes, because there's no big weightlifting types on this site bruh.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ea/eaefd11f3269c66301b04f8f0285eee5bd433096713fc72741a1c8511c6e1b6f.jpg) ;D
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Lots of "big guys" getting upset at the notion that their bulk may not serve them well in a fight
Lots of "tiny tits" getting upset with the reality that extreme mass and strength will almost always trump fanciful technique in a physical altercation.
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If we are talking about "street fight" then you have to take into account that both fighters are probably wearing street clothes and possibly even jackets when the fight breaks out.
I didn't watch the video, but the reality probably is that in a street fight they are in very close quarters and the bigger man grabs two handfuls of the boxers clothes, and then the 155 LB dude has got a real problem
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If we are talking about "street fight" then you have to take into account that both fighters are probably wearing street clothes and possibly even jackets when the fight breaks out.
I didn't watch the video, but the reality probably is that in a street fight they are in very close quarters and the bigger man grabs two handfuls of the boxers clothes, and then the 155 LB dude has got a real problem
Agreed for the most part.
They only problem in your hypothetical scenario is if they 155 lb dude is also an expert in weapon use in close quarters OR if the smaller man is some type of mutant with extendable bones that act as claws and because of his recuperative healing abilities he ends up becoming a government science project and his bones are replace with an unbreakable metal alloy.....
I mean in that situation the big guy is screwed even if its Big Bill Katsmyer with prime Tyson ko power....
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Lots of "tiny tits" getting upset with the reality that extreme mass and strength will almost always trump fanciful technique in a physical altercation.
Did you watch the video in the OP?
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Different sports can`t really be compared. Here you have one of the strongest people on the planet losing like a kid next to a armwrestling champ:
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There is a difference between power and strength. Power lifting should be called strength lifting. Olympic lifting the real power lifting sport. I have watched so many big bench press guys punch the heavy bag with softy punches. While having strength doesn't mean you have the power. Power is how quickly you can release the strength. How many guys can out jump and out sprint a guy who has a huge squat? While training for strength does increase power something like olympic lifting and sprinting builds power not withstanding innate genetics.