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Title: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: GMCtrk on March 19, 2006, 02:28:30 AM
I'm trying to put 2+2 together here...

Back in the 80s before Ronnie ever went to Metroflex, he supposedly just trained at the Police station/academy gym. Now in 1990 when his work partner told him about Metroflex and he first went there, Brian Dobson claims "he already had over 20 inch arms, and you could see the veins through his pants" or something to that effect. Ronnie later goes on to say that (and this is after he begain training at metroflex convinced by Brian with a free membership) "I knew bodybuilders had to go on a strict diet and go on steroids - and I didn't want to do either at the time."

So if Ronnie wasn't on the sauce, yet when he first came to Metroflex in 1990 with 20" arms and veins popping through his pants, how much of a freak was this guy? OR was he lying about the sauce, and was juicing throughout the 80s as well?
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: benchthis on March 19, 2006, 02:43:58 AM
in the very first ronnie mvie he said he first competed at 212 maybe this might help but im guessing when he first started liftin at metro  he must of been around 200-205
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: rocket on March 19, 2006, 05:21:10 AM
The story of the beginnings of ronnie is likely to be a lot more sordid than they would have you know in his "humble beginnings" moments on his dvd. 
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Croatch on March 19, 2006, 08:22:56 AM
5'9 165lbs 15%bf...haha
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: hillbilly on March 19, 2006, 08:30:44 AM
I'm trying to put 2+2 together here...

Back in the 80s before Ronnie ever went to Metroflex, he supposedly just trained at the Police station/academy gym. Now in 1990 when his work partner told him about Metroflex and he first went there, Brian Dobson claims "he already had over 20 inch arms, and you could see the veins through his pants" or something to that effect. Ronnie later goes on to say that (and this is after he begain training at metroflex convinced by Brian with a free membership) "I knew bodybuilders had to go on a strict diet and go on steroids - and I didn't want to do either at the time."

So if Ronnie wasn't on the sauce, yet when he first came to Metroflex in 1990 with 20" arms and veins popping through his pants, how much of a freak was this guy? OR was he lying about the sauce, and was juicing throughout the 80s as well?

He was natural untill just after he turned pro i think he was about 220 or 225 at the time (thats one big natty)
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Hulkster on March 19, 2006, 09:30:16 AM
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=924&stc=1)
"small traps from the front" :D
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 19, 2006, 09:34:59 AM

"small traps from the front" :D

Still has the same size calves lol  ;)
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: 1Fast400 on March 19, 2006, 09:51:22 AM
Seeing him in 10th grade, that is just retarded. 
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Drij on March 19, 2006, 10:10:18 AM
odd to see him with hair
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on March 19, 2006, 10:37:18 AM

 Just look at the guy in 10th grade what a freak.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: doison on March 19, 2006, 10:49:45 AM
Look at what happened to him between '95 and '96....Pics from '95 are natural.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: triple_pickle on March 19, 2006, 01:01:56 PM
f___ing big
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Stavios on March 19, 2006, 02:06:39 PM
How do you know if was natural in 91 or 95 or 2006 ?

nobody lives with him you simply cannot know the truth.

For my part, I have a hard time believing he was natural even in 91
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: hillbilly on March 19, 2006, 02:12:52 PM
How do you know if was natural in 91 or 95 or 2006 ?

nobody lives with him you simply cannot know the truth.

For my part, I have a hard time believing he was natural even in 91

well truth is we dont but i just wonder why he wud bother lying about it + i got the info from a brian dobson interveiw (metroflex owner) he may not have been but we all know hes a freak of nature and i for one believe him
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Hulkster on March 19, 2006, 02:16:45 PM
I doubt Ronnie was natural back then too, but you have to admit, he even had biceps back in grade 10 (at least based on the pic)
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 19, 2006, 06:20:16 PM
how old is 10th grade?
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: alexxx on March 19, 2006, 06:21:27 PM
Look at the so called natural pictures of him and he looks like he can easily bench 405 pds. But now with all the drugs in the world he can only bench 500pds? Something doesn't add up.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: DIVISION on March 19, 2006, 06:22:24 PM
I'm trying to put 2+2 together here...

Back in the 80s before Ronnie ever went to Metroflex, he supposedly just trained at the Police station/academy gym. Now in 1990 when his work partner told him about Metroflex and he first went there, Brian Dobson claims "he already had over 20 inch arms, and you could see the veins through his pants" or something to that effect. Ronnie later goes on to say that (and this is after he begain training at metroflex convinced by Brian with a free membership) "I knew bodybuilders had to go on a strict diet and go on steroids - and I didn't want to do either at the time."

So if Ronnie wasn't on the sauce, yet when he first came to Metroflex in 1990 with 20" arms and veins popping through his pants, how much of a freak was this guy? OR was he lying about the sauce, and was juicing throughout the 80s as well?

What's suprising here?

Ronnie always had those horse genetics......he was gifted like that.  You could see that from the beginning.  The lifting, food, drugs only enhanced all of that and allowed him to pack on all that mass.

The frame was always there.....just had to put in the time to fill it out.  He didn't need to start using AAS early, he more than made up for it later..........



DIV
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: alexxx on March 19, 2006, 06:23:53 PM
Plus Brian Dobson was saying how Ronnie was doing tricep extensions with 250 pounds with the ez bar and other ridiculous claims like that while he was still natural. Natural my ass!!
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: GMCtrk on March 19, 2006, 06:24:05 PM
What's suprising here?

Ronnie always had those horse genetics......he was gifted like that.  You could see that from the beginning.  The lifting, food, drugs only enhanced all of that and allowed him to pack on all that mass.

The frame was always there.....just had to put in the time to fill it out.  He didn't need to start using AAS early, he more than made up for it later..........



DIV

20" arms naturally? veins popping through the pants naturally?
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: brianX on March 19, 2006, 06:27:41 PM
I doubt his arms were 20" when he first joined Metroflex. I do think he was natural until the early to mid 90's.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 19, 2006, 06:42:15 PM
20" arms naturally? veins popping through the pants naturally?

He was so big he wore pants on his arms  ;D
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: HERACLES on March 19, 2006, 06:56:47 PM
I'm trying to put 2+2 together here...

Back in the 80s before Ronnie ever went to Metroflex, he supposedly just trained at the Police station/academy gym. Now in 1990 when his work partner told him about Metroflex and he first went there, Brian Dobson claims "he already had over 20 inch arms, and you could see the veins through his pants" or something to that effect. Ronnie later goes on to say that (and this is after he begain training at metroflex convinced by Brian with a free membership) "I knew bodybuilders had to go on a strict diet and go on steroids - and I didn't want to do either at the time."

So if Ronnie wasn't on the sauce, yet when he first came to Metroflex in 1990 with 20" arms and veins popping through his pants, how much of a freak was this guy? OR was he lying about the sauce, and was juicing throughout the 80s as well?


Doesnt really matter, how big he was naturally. What matters is his unreal genetics, to get soo BIG..and to be healthy still at his age! ALos notive how AAS is still effective, hes not losing size, nor is he getting the "Nasser" effect- how Nassers body just stop responding to AAS.

There have been some great bodybuilders, but Ronnie has been in a league of his own for a while now.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: DIVISION on March 19, 2006, 07:11:50 PM
In any case, I guess an argument can be made that Ronnie and his nearest competition can afford better gear, but in general I think it can be said that all pros are on a ton of stuff, yet Ronnie is still the biggest.

DIVISION - do you have anything to add here?  Speak on this.

Ronnie has better genetics than most of the other guys, even some of the top tier guys.  He probably gets good discounts on his gear because of who he is like most of the top pros do.  I know for a fact that some of the top guys get good hookups, status has it's benefits.  It's strange like that.  The guys who can afford to spend thousands on gear, don't need to because they get discounts.  The guys outside of the top 10 who probably need the help don't get it because they aren't the "elite". 

That's how it is, and I'm not naming names.  You guys know who the top 10 guys are....



DIV
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: GMCtrk on March 19, 2006, 07:22:23 PM

Doesnt really matter, how big he was naturally. What matters is his unreal genetics, to get soo BIG..and to be healthy still at his age! ALos notive how AAS is still effective, hes not losing size, nor is he getting the "Nasser" effect- how Nassers body just stop responding to AAS.

There have been some great bodybuilders, but Ronnie has been in a league of his own for a while now.

If be healthy, you mean alive, then yes ronnie is healthy
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Lion666 on March 19, 2006, 08:50:10 PM
even in his high school pic he was vascular, along with having decent muscular bis w/ cuts.  that link posted on the 1st page has great pics.  sometimes w/ all the play & chatter he gets it's like people get ronnie saturated and forget how good he is.  he is totally heads & tails above everyone.  other competitors should be thankin their lucky stars his tri is injured cause thats is the only way anyone is ever gonna beat him, unless he lets them.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: OLE BIG on March 19, 2006, 09:31:53 PM
Has anyone seen his brother?  What would you say of his genetics if you have?
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: ignorance on March 19, 2006, 09:50:21 PM
Plus Brian Dobson was saying how Ronnie was doing tricep extensions with 250 pounds with the ez bar and other ridiculous claims like that while he was still natural. Natural my ass!!

dude 250 isn't that much, I know 18 old year school kids doing 135pds with an ez bar and their  'natural'
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: rufjunk on March 20, 2006, 09:01:43 AM
I don't know how big he is naturally but how he responds to the juice is another factor.

He could be small as shit naturally, at least relative to other hardcore bodybuilders, and then juice and become gi-normous.

Didn't Levrone shrink for 6 months and then gain 50+ pounds in another 6?
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: alexxx on March 20, 2006, 09:04:28 AM
dude 250 isn't that much, I know 18 old year school kids doing 135pds with an ez bar and their  'natural'

Ya I was doing that at that age even younger than that but 250pds is a long way from 135!
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: SwingGuru on March 22, 2006, 07:40:04 PM
Looking at that 10 grade picture, there aren't too many guys with that kind of lean build, and quality muscle.  Compare that to the pictures of Cutler at 16.  Not even close.  Ronnie's genetics are much better.  Drugs do give us white boys a fighting chance, and are the great equalizer.  In the end, if all are taking the same stuff, doing the same workouts, then the guy built best without ever touching a weight will win.  And that man is Coleman. 

Every now and then you see a man among a bunch of boys.  I'm sure that was the case on Ronnie's football team way back then.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: DIVISION on March 22, 2006, 07:42:50 PM
How healthy is Ronnie Coleman?

DIVISION - speak on this.

He's healthier than your average obese middle age american.

Does that help?   :-\

Without knowing his cycle history and lab results, there is no way to tell how healthy he is.

His body is starting to show the wear and tear though.......all these muscle tears and joint issues are starting to show their effects.



DIV
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: Al-Gebra on March 22, 2006, 09:45:25 PM
He says the bloodwork and EKG scans always come back to him with a clean bill of health.  He said he was healthier than his doctor according to scans.  The test results are always good and he gets tests done every three months.  Something every pro should do.

That having been said, how healthy is Ronnie, DIVISION?

Speak on this.

He's looking in his crystal ball (yeah, the same one that allows him to see into the hearts and minds and psyches of various Getbig members), but when he's done, he'll answer your questions, persevering one.

Al-G
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: brianX on March 22, 2006, 09:45:55 PM
Ronnie benched 225 without steroids.
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: sculpture on March 23, 2006, 05:53:02 AM
Still has the same size calves lol  ;)

Irony is if that physique belonged to anyone other than ronnie, ND would be claiming how aesthetic and perfeect it was in that most muscular shot wouldnt ya ND?
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: kiwiol on March 23, 2006, 06:12:17 AM
I think we should have more input / opinions on this not just from Division, but also Addition, Subtraction and most importantly Multiplication  ;D.

Nuggas,

Speak on this
Title: Re: just how big was Ronnie naturally???
Post by: gtbro1 on March 23, 2006, 08:10:37 AM
He was so big he wore pants on his arms  ;D

lol