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Must admit I marked out pretty good for this as did the crowd. What a response!
That said, IMO, the match is wrong. He should be going up against HHH. That match would have an actual story that didn't even need a belt attached. However, as it stands, now, Vince is stuck with a match no one cares about HHH / Reigns, and match that makes no sense Taker / Shane.
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Same here! Shane O Mac brings back old memories and makes things exciting.
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Haven't really processed this yet.
Shane back....is this temporary as he is a COO or President of an overseas company.
Are they saying Taker will be a Heel in this match? Let's figure this out, HHH couldn't beat Taker, HBK couldn't beat taker BUT WWE wants us to potentially believe that Shane O Mac can beat him?
As Kevin Sullivan says....there is No QC COntrol
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Must admit I marked out pretty good for this as did the crowd. What a response!
That said, IMO, the match is wrong. He should be going up against HHH. That match would have an actual story that didn't even need a belt attached. However, as it stands, now, Vince is stuck with a match no one cares about HHH / Reigns, and match that makes no sense Taker / Shane.
You hit the nail right on the head there Lizzy. No one cares about the so-called main event. Everyone knows Reigns will win. Its so damn predictable that it isn't even worth the paper its printed on.
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Haven't really processed this yet.
Shane back....is this temporary as he is a COO or President of an overseas company.
Are they saying Taker will be a Heel in this match? Let's figure this out, HHH couldn't beat Taker, HBK couldn't beat taker BUT WWE wants us to potentially believe that Shane O Mac can beat him?
As Kevin Sullivan says....there is No QC COntrol
It's just weird. Is the Undertaker now Vince's buddy/bitch and willing to do his dirty work? What does taker have against Shane, and why would Shane even agree to this as he's the one who supposedly has something on Vince?
I'd be surprised if the match actually goes down this way. The rumor was that Taker's opponent was Cena. Maybe Cena isn't ready and they had throw this together in a hurry.
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Anyone remember the match he had with Kurt Angle?? Kurt tried to back flip him into a plexiglass wall....it didn't break and they did it a second or perhaps 3rd time til it did.
I always remember people saying Shane was really one of the boys...
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Anyone remember the match he had with Kurt Angle?? Kurt tried to back flip him into a plexiglass wall....it didn't break and they did it a second or perhaps 3rd time til it did.
I always remember people saying Shane was really one of the boys...
My buddies & I always thought that (one of) the reason(s) Shane did all of that crazy shit back in the day was to gain "street-cred" with the talent when he eventually took over the company.
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My buddies & I always thought that (one of) the reason(s) Shane did all of that crazy shit back in the day was to gain "street-cred" with the talent when he eventually took over the company.
Apparently, he was very popular backstage. I heard an ex-writer say that everyone wanted be on Shane's team.
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Apparently, he was very popular backstage. I heard an ex-writer say that everyone wanted be on Shane's team.
Supposedly when Raven/Johnny Polo was in the Fed, Shane and Raven used to hang out alot. Vince would call Shane asking where he was and he would say, hanging out at Raven's apartment..
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Supposedly when Raven/Johnny Polo was in the Fed, Shane and Raven used to hang out alot. Vince would call Shane asking where he was and he would say, hanging out at Raven's apartment..
Raven is a MAJOR PLAYER...
FACT!!
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Anyone remember the match he had with Kurt Angle?? Kurt tried to back flip him into a plexiglass wall....it didn't break and they did it a second or perhaps 3rd time til it did.
I always remember people saying Shane was really one of the boys...
I remember that, Shane took some sick bumps. Three attempts at breaking the glass as the thing wouldn't give. Shane is awesome.
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Shane..
Took a lot a bumps.. back in the day..
Didn't have too..
Was born in to the family business..
He now runs the biggest cable / satellite company in the world..
Weird he is coming back ..
Or at least knows the wwe is fucked with all the injuries..
And they need some firepower to pull this wrestlemania...
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Shane..
Took a lot a bumps.. back in the day..
Didn't have too..
Was born in to the family business..
He now runs the biggest cable / satellite company in the world..
Weird he is coming back ..
Or at least knows the wwe is fucked with all the injuries..
And they need some firepower to pull this wrestlemania...
I think its just a "one of" appearance. They need to stack the deck. They have no choice. Tickets will not sell if they don't bring in major stars, that said, Shane's bump taking and now vs Undertaker plus its a HITC match to boot? Who knows...still time before the big show and its subject to change. The key question is when are Rollins, Cena and Orton due back ?? ;)
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I think its just a "one of" appearance. They need to stack the deck. They have no choice. Tickets will not sell if they don't bring in major stars, that said, Shane's bump taking and now vs Undertaker plus its a HITC match to boot? Who knows...still time before the big show and its subject to change. The key question is when are Rollins, Cena and Orton due back ?? ;)
Agreed but lets look at the bigger message...by bringing Shane back they are basically telling the locker room there is no one good enough to face UT that they have to bring in a non-wrestler.
Hell, prior to Shane showing up, I would have Samoa Joe show up and call out the Undertaker..I think it would have been a great brawl and a great way to get Joe to the main roster..
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It was great to see Shane return but the match with Taker completely ruined it for me. I don't see what point it has, there's no story to it, we've not seen Taker in how long, and he's got no problem with Shane? As someone above said, this is just a last minute emergency call as Cena's not going to be back in time. Shane can't win the match and return to the WWE as he's got enough going on with his own business, plus this is supposedly Taker's last match in his home state, so I just can't see Shane winning it.
One plus point on Monday night was HHH messing Reigns up at the end, must have bust his nose or something 'cos he was bleeding all over the place.
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It was great to see Shane return but the match with Taker completely ruined it for me. I don't see what point it has, there's no story to it, we've not seen Taker in how long, and he's got no problem with Shane? As someone above said, this is just a last minute emergency call as Cena's not going to be back in time. Shane can't win the match and return to the WWE as he's got enough going on with his own business, plus this is supposedly Taker's last match in his home state, so I just can't see Shane winning it.
One plus point on Monday night was HHH messing Reigns up at the end, must have bust his nose or something 'cos he was bleeding all over the place.
To be fair, Shane apparently is no longer CEO of that Chinese company (He's only on the board of it) and has been back with the WWE in an executive fashion for a couple of months now as well.
He "could" win it... We shall see.
I'm sure Taker can come back for another Texas match if he so desires.
Oh, and that nose was not busted. It had to be a blood capsule as you can clearly see Saxton handing Reigns something and him doing something under his long hair while it was covering his face.
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Oh, and that nose was not busted. It had to be a blood capsule as you can clearly see Saxton handing Reigns something and him doing something under his long hair while it was covering his face.
Where was that as it wasn't shown on Raw? HHH smacks him into the table a couple of dozen times then the cameras move away to follow HHH as he plays to the crowd. Saxton had stood and stepped back away from the table with a stack of papers in his hands. The camera follows HHH back to the table and Roman's then seen bleeding. If it was capsules then the medics must have given him a second one as there was quite a lot more blood after the pedigree as well.
For what it's worth, Roman had surgery today on his nose, which had been broken previously and needed fixing anyway.
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I always hated him. Just doing a bunch of dangerous shit as he has no shape or wrestling skills.
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Where was that as it wasn't shown on Raw? HHH smacks him into the table a couple of dozen times then the cameras move away to follow HHH as he plays to the crowd. Saxton had stood and stepped back away from the table with a stack of papers in his hands. The camera follows HHH back to the table and Roman's then seen bleeding. If it was capsules then the medics must have given him a second one as there was quite a lot more blood after the pedigree as well.
For what it's worth, Roman had surgery today on his nose, which had been broken previously and needed fixing anyway.
It's not shown on wwe cameras, it shown on video recorded by an audience member behind the announce table.
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It's not shown on wwe cameras, it shown on video recorded by an audience member behind the announce table.
That's right... it was a cell phone video.
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It was definitely a razor blade and McMahon himself had to approve it. No such thing as capsules.
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It was definitely a razor blade and McMahon himself had to approve it. No such thing as capsules.
No, there are!
I used to sell them.
However, I have no idea what they used the other night because I didn't see it.
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That's right... it was a cell phone video.
Fair enough, haven't seen that yet.
No such thing as capsules.
There's definitely blood capsules available, there was a big thing in the UK a couple of years ago when a rugby player used them to force a substitution during a game, when the team had already used their allocation.
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No, there are!
I used to sell them.
However, I have no idea what they used the other night because I didn't see it.
Really Monte? I never seen them. I heard through the grapevine that "if" they did exist, how could one keep them in his tights? They could explode on a bad bump and next thing you know it'll look like a guy on his "period" lol
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I'd have to go with the capsule theory.
We're not talking about Abdullah the Butcher, here.
It's the top pretty boy baby face. Moreover, from a Corporate image standpoint, I doubt WWE would mess with blades in 2016.
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I'd have to go with the capsule theory.
We're not talking about Abdullah the Butcher, here.
It's the top pretty boy baby face. Moreover, from a Corporate image standpoint, I doubt WWE would mess with blades in 2016.
Now they boys are getting to pansy for a razor blade ?? Brutal Lol...
Oh man do I really miss the WWE attitude era :P
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Really Monte? I never seen them. I heard through the grapevine that "if" they did exist, how could one keep them in his tights? They could explode on a bad bump and next thing you know it'll look like a guy on his "period" lol
That's why Saxton hands it to him in the video.
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Really Monte? I never seen them. I heard through the grapevine that "if" they did exist, how could one keep them in his tights? They could explode on a bad bump and next thing you know it'll look like a guy on his "period" lol
We sold them in the joke & novelty section of our magic shop.
It is essentially a gel capsule filled with artificial blood. You simply bite down and allow the blood to drip from your mouth. Very popular around Halloween.
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We sold them in the joke & novelty section of our magic shop.
It is essentially a gel capsule filled with artificial blood. You simply bite down and allow the blood to drip from your mouth. Very popular around Halloween.
What about the Great Muta's green mist. Same deal?
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What about the Great Muta's green mist. Same deal?
I believe so.
But, don't quote me on that. I never actually got to ask anyone who did it.
The "mist" in wrestling has always been a liquid that is sprayed from the mouth using the same technique that fire-breathers use. It is very likely that the "load" into the mouth consisted of a capsule.
Of all the original ECW and Japanese wrestlers who came through our promotion years ago, Yoshihiro Tajiri was not among them. I always wanted to sit done after the show and shoot the shit over some beers with him and Sabu. Alas, I never met either one.
Come to think of it, I have no idea why we never contracted Sabu.
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I believe so.
But, don't quote me on that. I never actually got to ask anyone who did it.
The "mist" in wrestling has always been a liquid that is sprayed from the mouth using the same technique that fire-breathers use. It is very likely that the "load" into the mouth consisted of a capsule.
Of all the original ECW and Japanese wrestlers who came through our promotion years ago, Yoshihiro Tajiri was not among them. I always wanted to sit done after the show and shoot the shit over some beers with him and Sabu. Alas, I never met either one.
Come to think of it, I have no idea why we never contracted Sabu.
Lol...next thing you know the pills come out, a few lines and strippers...hours later you wake up a 11am with an ear to ear grin ;D
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Lol...next thing you know the pills come out, a few lines and strippers...hours later you wake up a 11am with an ear to ear grin ;D
LOL
That's another reason I got out of it.
It was sobering beyond belief seeing how so many of those guys ended up.
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I just learned yesterday that the Mean Street Possee members Pete Gas and Rodney actually were Shane's childhood friends. I thought it was a work but apparently it was a shoot.
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LOL
That's another reason I got out of it.
It was sobering beyond belief seeing how so many of those guys ended up.
The good old eighties right there buddy.
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Lol...next thing you know the pills come out, a few lines and strippers...hours later you wake up a 11am with an ear to ear grin ;D
Where is the downside?
;D
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LOL
That's another reason I got out of it.
It was sobering beyond belief seeing how so many of those guys ended up.
Caught Mick Foley on a Podcast. He was asked about his health. The response wasn't good. Sounds like his hips are shot from all the bumps. The guy has some serious mobility issues, the type you'd expect in an elderly person, and he's only 50.
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The good old eighties right there buddy.
80's AND 90's, both.
Rec drugs, Rx drugs, booze, steroids...
Disgusting.
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Any chance a swerve happens and the match doesn't take place?
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Any chance a swerve happens and the match doesn't take place?
I'd be surprised if the card doesn't change. Maybe Cena makes a surprise return and takes the spot.
Frankly, I'll be happy when WM is done so we see can some of the New Japan guys, especially Nakamura, get pushed.
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Is the stadium sold out?
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Nope.
Many tickets left.
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Nope.
Many tickets left.
I remember the days when the old man wouldn't play a venue he couldn't sell out - for Wrestlemania, I mean.
There are rumors that they changed locations the year Hogan & Slaughter headlined in favor of a smaller arena to hide the shame of lackluster ticket sales. The public explanation was that it was due to bomb threats made against Sarge.
Apparently the bad guys didn't have directions to the new arena.
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I remember the days when the old man wouldn't play a venue he couldn't sell out - for Wrestlemania, I mean.
There are rumors that they changed locations the year Hogan & Slaughter headlined in favor of a smaller arena to hide the shame of lackluster ticket sales. The public explanation was that it was due to bomb threats made against Sarge.
Apparently the bad guys didn't have directions to the new arena.
Bahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm glad at least one person noticed that.
;D
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I'm glad at least one person noticed that.
;D
WrestleMania is in two weeks.....and so far the only highlight match IMO is the diva's three way dance. Pretty sad.
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Nope.
Many tickets left.
Latest reports are 80,000
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Latest reports are 80,000
how many of those are freebees , i wonder...of the 93k plus record how many of those were freebees????
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how many of those are freebees , i wonder...of the 93k plus record how many of those were freebees????
I just heard an interview with Dave Meltzer (I think on Austin podcast ) where he said those numbers are for entertainment purposes only. The 93k wasn't a real number, that it was closer to the 80s. All attendance figures are also a work.
I was saddened when I heard this.
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Do you think there will be a Shane heel turn after mania? I kind of think so.
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I just heard an interview with Dave Meltzer (I think on Austin podcast ) where he said those numbers are for entertainment purposes only. The 93k wasn't a real number, that it was closer to the 80s. All attendance figures are also a work.
I was saddened when I heard this.
Yes.
There are several people/sources to have investigated the WMIII attendance figures.
I've heard different explanations, but they all contend that WWF's boast was a good 10-15k exaggerated.
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The difference between them using the phrase "sold out" or "capacity" crowd.
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I just heard an interview with Dave Meltzer (I think on Austin podcast ) where he said those numbers are for entertainment purposes only. The 93k wasn't a real number, that it was closer to the 80s. All attendance figures are also a work.
I was saddened when I heard this.
That doesn't surprise me...as Bobby Heenan said before...at WM3...do you really think someone sat there and counted 93,000 tickets?
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That doesn't surprise me...as Bobby Heenan said before...at WM3...do you really think someone sat there and counted 93,000 tickets?
Yep... LOL.
Although, they still outdrew the Pope, who appeared there a short time later!
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Shane is hitting his fathers cycle hard. Did you get a look at his mid section yesterday? Wow...drastic change from what he looked like before his exit.
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The 93k wasn't a real number, that it was closer to the 80s. All attendance figures are also a work.
he is full of shit.
1. if the number was wrong then that means all the other attendance figures around that time at the Silverdome (the pope and the rolling stones if I recall) were also inflated. which would make NO sense at all.
2. this figure of 93173 used to be listed in the Guiness book of world records. I used to have one of the editions containing it.
I am pretty sure they would have done some sort of follow up to validate rather than just take Vince's word.
I would love to see Dave's thoughts on the above two points..
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/3jm82s/when_this_sub_hits_93173_subscribersi_kinda_hope/
reddit thread talking about WM3 attendance.
consensus is that the 78k is more false than the 93 because the venue was well known to be able to hold just over 80k for football with no floor seats..
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Still real to me dammit!! >:(
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he is full of shit.
1. if the number was wrong then that means all the other attendance figures around that time at the Silverdome (the pope and the rolling stones if I recall) were also inflated. which would make NO sense at all.
2. this figure of 93173 used to be listed in the Guiness book of world records. I used to have one of the editions containing it.
I am pretty sure they would have done some sort of follow up to validate rather than just take Vince's word.
I would love to see Dave's thoughts on the above two points..
Lol, my thoughts or Meltzer's? I'll see if I can find what podcast I heard this on so I can have it for you. This was just brought up again in reference to the 100k tease for Dallas. The Michigan promoter show Meltzer the actual numbers.
For the record I could care less, it's wrestling VKM and is a showman it wouldn't surprise me he falsified numbers. Obviously there's some truth to the rumors as reddit has a thread on itit and there wasn't 10k floor seats at WMIII let alone 15k.
And as far as your 2 points: no one said the silverdome couldnt hold 93k people, the Big House in Ann Arbor would have been able to do that so the silverdome would have been able to. So as far as the pope and stones, why would their numbers be inflated? Again it was never said it couldn't hold 93k, just that WM didn't have that many in attendance. But all things considered I'm sure it was important for those two to have figures close to the WWF, as both groups have bigger followings. I'm sure they weren't going to be embarrassed by having poor numbers. That comparison doesn't apply in this case.
As far as the GBR, the record should still stand I guess. I'm sure they have a extremely tough vetting process establishing hundreds of thousands of records from the most consecutive rope jumps in 24 hours to whatever stunt David Blaine is doing. VKM beat the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN A COURT CASE, I'm sure he could hoodwink the fact checkers at Guiness...
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Lol, my thoughts or Meltzer's? I'll see if I can find what podcast I heard this on so I can have it for you. This was just brought up again in reference to the 100k tease for Dallas. The Michigan promoter show Meltzer the actual numbers.
For the record I could care less, it's wrestling VKM and is a showman it wouldn't surprise me he falsified numbers. Obviously there's some truth to the rumors as reddit has a thread on itit and there wasn't 10k floor seats at WMIII let alone 15k.
And as far as your 2 points: no one said the silverdome couldnt hold 93k people, the Big House in Ann Arbor would have been able to do that so the silverdome would have been able to. So as far as the pope and stones, why would their numbers be inflated? Again it was never said it couldn't hold 93k, just that WM didn't have that many in attendance. But all things considered I'm sure it was important for those two to have figures close to the WWF, as both groups have bigger followings. I'm sure they weren't going to be embarrassed by having poor numbers. That comparison doesn't apply in this case.
As far as the GBR, the record should still stand I guess. I'm sure they have a extremely tough vetting process establishing hundreds of thousands of records from the most consecutive rope jumps in 24 hours to whatever stunt David Blaine is doing. VKM beat the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN A COURT CASE, I'm sure he could hoodwink the fact checkers at Guiness...
INTERESTING ...I think any venue or stadium boasting only could be at least partially validated by one being there,i have been to sold out stadium or concert venue shows and when it was said and done you could see empty rows or seats littered about..i guess the presell on sale and somewhat final count is what they go by ...full capacity sold sounds better than there are seats still available...
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[Lol, my thoughts or Meltzer's
meltzers. seems his single misinformed quote started the whole thing.
its all mute now cause WM32 just had 101,000+
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Just got out of mania ..
The rock said it was 101,760 ..
I have never seen so many people in one place...
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Just got mania ..
The rock said it was 101,760 ..
I'm at a total loss...
With ratings and regular attendance figures the way they are, I am utterly amazed they pulled this off.
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Me too, broke down and watched the show. Great feeling watching it with my 8 yr old son BUT thought the show overall was lackluster
Few surprises but nothing that made me say Holy Sh$t
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It was a great experience for me watching it with my wife & 4 year old son live..
I'm not a Dallas cowboys fans.. actually hate the cowboys...
But they have a world class state of the art stadium..
It is very impressive..
From the food to the restroom facilities to the chairs you sit in..
It's just amazing place.. wow..
It was packed.. never seen so many people in one place..
I will be eventually attending another wrestlemania in the near future..
Wish it was the attitude era...
But it is what is..
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It was a great experience for me watching it with my wife & 4 year old son live..
I'm not a Dallas cowboys fans.. actually hate the cowboys...
But they have a world class state of the art stadium..
It is very impressive..
From the food to the restroom facilities to the chairs you sit in..
It's just amazing place.. wow..
It was packed.. never seen so many people in one place..
I will be eventually attending another wrestlemania in the near future..
Wish it was the attitude era...
But it is what is..
Attitude era - were you excited when Stone Cold, HBK and Foley came out?
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meltzers. seems his single misinformed quote started the whole thing.
its all mute now cause WM32 just had 101,000+
Just got out of mania ..
The rock said it was 101,760 ..
I have never seen so many people in one place...
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/694111-did-over-100000-fans-actually-attend-wrestlemania-32-in-dallas
Someone is lying to us, the question is who is more trustworthy?
The answer is we're all getting worked.
Decent show though, I'm glad I watched it.
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Someone is lying to us, the question is who is more trustworthy?
Meltzer is lying, or at least misinformed.. and it seems most people agree.
look at the comments in that link. he never reveals specific sources. just spews crap. lol
notice the difference though between "attendance" and "paid tickets sold". there is a difference.
Pontiac silverdome 93,000+
vs
AT and T arena 101,000+:
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I'm at a total loss...
With ratings and regular attendance figures the way they are, I am utterly amazed they pulled this off.
Not me...after all its WM. Had they come to my town, I'd have bought a ticket too. Why not. Not to many times people can say they've gone to WM. I got lucky and attended 2! Lol
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Not me...after all its WM. Had they come to my town, I'd have bought a ticket too. Why not. Not to many times people can say they've gone to WM. I got lucky and attended 2! Lol
yup. me too. I was at WM6 Hogan Warrior and WM18 Hogan Rock cause I am close to Toronto.
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Overall it was a great experience..
It was a 8 hour drive one way..
The tailgating outside the stadium was crazy and fun..
People were in character..
Drinking beer and cooking out..
Only in Texas... ;D
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yup. me too. I was at WM6 Hogan Warrior and WM18 Hogan Rock cause I am close to Toronto.
I was at both those shows and they were both great.