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Car died while driving on Tuesday. took it to a commercial mechanic and he said something about the head gasket and compression cylinder. Any idea of what that will cost me?
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If it's just a gasket it's cheap, at least the parts. Labour will be the hardest part.
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dude is going to call me back with the amount, but i used to take my old car to this spot and they would ass rape me with no lube or kisses
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Car died while driving on Tuesday. took it to a commercial mechanic and he said something about the head gasket and compression cylinder. Any idea of what that will cost me?
head gasket replacement alone will run close to 1500. im not sure what you mean by "compression cylinder," is he just talking about a misfiring cylinder?
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head gasket replacement alone will run close to 1500. im not sure what you mean by "compression cylinder," is he just talking about a misfiring cylinder?
Maybe loss of compression in the cylinder?
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Looks like BMC is going to have to make a tough choice: Not buy GH this month or walk to the gym. I'm pretty sure we all know which way this will go so please, if anyone sees a short muscular black man walking alongside the road watching PAWG videos on his iPhone, please give him a ride. Or is a GoFundMe campaign already in the works?
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Looks like BMC is going to have to make a tough choice: Not buy GH this month or walk to the gym. I'm pretty sure we all know which way this will go so please, if anyone sees a short muscular black man walking alongside the road watching PAWG videos on his iPhone, please give him a ride. Or is a GoFundMe campaign already in the works?
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I aint even going to lie, that car is bad ass!!!
I dont know SHIT about cars! Dude could tell me i need a Spacely Sprocket and id say sure! LOL
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Maybe loss of compression in the cylinder?
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The head gasket is like a washer between the cylinder head and engine block. If it blows, air leaks out instead of compressing.
As said, it's a cheap fix from a parts stand point. The labor is the big cost.
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I aint even going to lie, that car is bad ass!!!
I dont know SHIT about cars! Dude could tell me i need a Spacely Sprocket and id say sure! LOL
If he mentions your car's flux capacitor, he probably knows his shit.
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what kind of car do you have Mike, you could probably get more accurate help
usually when people do a head gasket, they also replace the water pump and timing belt since you are already there and those things need replacement anyways
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If the cylinder head is cracked or scratched it's gonna cost a lot more than just the gasket.
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If he mentions your car's flux capacitor, he probably knows his shit.
thats fix is gonna cost you 1.21 jigawatts broham ;D
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If he mentions your car's flux capacitor, he probably knows his shit.
And my dumbass would probably say "sure, go ahead and fix it but can i get that floating skateboard as a rental?"
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$3,500.00
Exactly.....not a penny less.
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what kind of car do you have Mike, you could probably get more accurate help
usually when people do a head gasket, they also replace the water pump and timing belt since you are already there and those things need replacement anyways
2007 Hyundai Elantra. Have 161K miles on it
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2007 Hyundai Elantra. Have 161K miles on it
yea , tack on the Water pump and timing belt to the cost
i would say $1400 - $1800 maybe
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yea , tack on the Water pump and timing belt to the cost
i would say $1400 - $1800 maybe
Id be better off getting a new car. The idea of having a car payment is not appealing at all!
there goes my prep $$$
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^^^^LMAO
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does it run on plutonium?
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yea , tack on the Water pump and timing belt to the cost
i would say $1400 - $1800 maybe
Double that.....
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2007 Hyundai Elantra. Have 161K miles on it
When they take off the cylinder head, given the mileage, there's a good chance they find other issues.
You might want to consider an upgrade.
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loss of compression in one cylinder? You are going to need a rebuild soon or replacement. You can band aid it some times with a hotter plug in the bad cylinder.
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When they take off the cylinder head, given the mileage, there's a good chance they find other issues.
You might want to consider an upgrade.
Previous gen Elantra with that mileage on it? Yeah, no sleaze ball mechanic is pass up the opportunity to "fin more stuff."
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I have a honda. About 130K miles on it. I was driving crazy distances for like a 2-4 year period. To this day, rarely any problems, other than the basic maintenance. would never get another car other than a honda.
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Gaskets don't just fail spontaneously. Guessing it overheated so you'll have to solve that or any engine repair is wasted money. Coolant pump, thermostat, radiator, engine's coolant passages, hoses - there's a problem somewhere that you'll have to fix. Aluminum heads don't tolerate much overheat. It's probably warped and will need machining, although there's a limit to how much can be shaved off so you may be up for a new head.
Guessing he means one cylinder is losing compression by leaking through the failed gasket, not that there's a cylinder/ring problem to address.
Get a quote. Be clear that the quote is the quote, no room for "oh we had to do more than we thought so you owe us an extra $2000." Just be honest that you only have so much to spend and need to compare repair cost to replacement. So ask what it's going to cost for repairs and the likelihood of those repairs being needed. He'll give you something like "For X this many dollars. For Y, which will probably also need to be done, this many more dollars. For Z, which might need to be done, this much." Be clear that you don't have money for surprises. You have to know the worst case cost before proceeding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask for all possible costs so you know what you might be spending. It isn't reasonable to expect him to know exactly what it will cost. He can't know, for example, if the head is warped without taking it off and examining it, only then being able to determine if it's true, needs machining, or needs replacing. But he can give you the costs associated with each possibility up front.
Compare it to the cost of an engine replacement or another car. If you haven't taken particularly good care of this one then this might not be your last mechanic's bill, so factor that in to your decision.
Imo vehicles should have a thermocouple fuel shut off. There's one on my air compressor yet none on my vehicles. Anyone whose car has overheated will probably agree. But I guess that would present an insurmountable 'safety issue' somehow. ::) Not like when an engine turns off anyway because it died, right?
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I have a honda. About 130K miles on it. I was driving crazy distances for like a 2-4 year period. To this day, rarely any problems, other than the basic maintenance. would never get another car other than a honda.
How homosexually fitting....
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How homosexually fitting....
Thank you.
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Gaskets don't just fail spontaneously. Guessing it overheated so you'll have to solve that or any engine repair is wasted money. Coolant pump, thermostat, radiator, engine's coolant passages, hoses - there's a problem somewhere that you'll have to fix. Aluminum heads don't tolerate much overheat. It's probably warped and will need machining, although there's a limit to how much can be shaved off so you may be up for a new head.
From my understanding, once coolant leaks into the cylinder head, the engine is usually farked.
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From my understanding, once coolant leaks into the cylinder head, the engine is usually farked.
Hmm, idk if the block/cylinders/pistons would be fucked or not. Coolant would be at engine temp so I wouldn't think there'd a violent thermal shock, just boil off cooling. There'd certainly be a mess to clean up. At the very least I think BMC is up for machine shop work on the head. $ I'd be called a hobby mechanic at best tho, and that's if you're feeling generous.
Incidentally, one of the coolest 'should I buy it' non-shop tests I've seen was running an engine, taking a sample of the oil, putting it on aluminum foil, and heating it with a lighter crackhead style. If it sizzles, you know there's coolant in the oil = head/gasket issues.
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there are tricks that can be used to fix a bad head gasket for $50 for a few months
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there are tricks that can be used to fix a bad head gasket for $50 for a few months
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when i was 21yrs old and stupid my ford expedition had leaking radiator , i used those pellets to fix the clog, 2 months later i needed a new motor because they caused a clog all over the block and head and blew the motor
$4600 mistake
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Nifty. Not proper but good to know it's out there.
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I have a honda. About 130K miles on it. I was driving crazy distances for like a 2-4 year period. To this day, rarely any problems, other than the basic maintenance. would never get another car other than a honda.
x2 honda drivetrains are built like tanks
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From my understanding, once coolant leaks into the cylinder head, the engine is usually farked.
That's not true. This happens when you have a blown head gasket and the antifreeze mixes with the oil. The car will usually bow smoke, but it's all repairable. My first car did this.
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Car died while driving on Tuesday. took it to a commercial mechanic and he said something about the head gasket and compression cylinder. Any idea of what that will cost me?
Mike, I would recommend replacing your head gasket. You have a small four cylinder engine, so it shouldn't be more than $1200 to replace. Drive the car a few more thousand miles then sell it. You wouldn't be able to get much for your car with out repairing this.
Make sure to find a good mechanic you trust.
This guy is replacing the head gasket on an Elantra.
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That's not true. This happens when you have a blown head gasket and the antifreeze mixes with the oil. The car will usually bow smoke, but it's all repairable. My first car did this.
Ironically, this recently happened on a reality show called Fast N Loud. They bought a 30's hot rod for a quick flip, but when they took off the cylinder head they found that coolant leaked
into the engine. The mechanic Jason Aker, who's a pretty well known restoration expert said the engine was shot. Seeing it on TV, it looked as though everything was rusted: springs, rockers, push rods etc. Then again, it might have just been the age of the car and poor maintenance.
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when i was 21yrs old and stupid my ford expedition had leaking radiator , i used those pellets to fix the clog, 2 months later i needed a new motor because they caused a clog all over the block and head and blew the motor
$4600 mistake
When I was in high school my classic 66 mustang got a nasty radiator leak, I did the egg white trick. A few eggs later, I was able to drive her around a couple days until a new one came in the mail.
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coolant (glycol) will remove oxidation and carbon from metals but may react with adhesives, or parts. a clean cylinder indicates a coolant leak.
the gasket seal is a glassy silicon material. it can gum things up if it goes to the wrong areas.
the way to kill the motor is by overheating it or never change the oil.
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Your car if it was running is only worth about $1500. Why sink $1500 to $1800 to make it run?
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Your car if it was running is only worth about $1500. Why sink $1500 to $1800 to make it run?
America that's why. :D
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Your car if it was running is only worth about $1500. Why sink $1500 to $1800 to make it run?
What's it worth if he doesn't fix it? $500?
This is always the question when a car with this many miles has something major go wrong.
I think he could fix it for $1200 and sell it for $2500, but these numbers depend on how much work he's willing to do.
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IMO, his best bet is to give Rusty a call:
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canada was afflicted with hyundais first mass produced car the pony. It was a top selling car for a period but it was awful. I think it was $5000 new or something.
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canada was afflicted with hyundais first mass produced car the pony. It was a top selling car for a period but it was awful. I think it was $5000 new or something.
Hyundai was shitty until a few years ago.
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What's it worth if he doesn't fix it? $500?
This is always the question when a car with this many miles has something major go wrong.
I think he could fix it for $1200 and sell it for $2500, but these numbers depend on how much work he's willing to do.
How can he sell it for $2500 when the Kelly blue book and Edmunds has it listed at around $1500 if it runs? I can't see paying for the head gasket work, timing belt and water pump for around $1500 to $2000 if the end result is a $1500 dollar car. I am not being a car snob. I've have driven many junk cars in my life.
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How can he sell it for $2500 when the Kelly blue book and Edmunds has it listed at around $1500 if it runs? I can't see paying for the head gasket work, timing belt and water pump for around $1500 to $2000 if the end result is a $1500 dollar car. I am not being a car snob. I've have driven many junk cars in my life.
Truth. That is the point, if he has to ask about it. He isn't going to do the work himself. He has 2 opinions. Band aid and drive it until it dies. Or sell it.
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2007 Hyundai Elantra. Have 161K miles on it
Salvage yard...buy powertrain out of written off Hyundai and drop it into your car.
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Hertz has a used car division. You can usually find some good deals. You rent the car for a weekend and if you like it, you can opt to buy it:
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Hertz has a used car division. You can usually find some good deals. You rent the car for a weekend and if you like it, you can opt to buy it:
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People drive rentals like a rock star takes care of his hotel room. Buy a rental at your own peril.
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How can he sell it for $2500 when the Kelly blue book and Edmunds has it listed at around $1500 if it runs? I can't see paying for the head gasket work, timing belt and water pump for around $1500 to $2000 if the end result is a $1500 dollar car. I am not being a car snob. I've have driven many junk cars in my life.
These aren't the numbers I'm seeing on KBB or on Craigslist. There are 2007 Elantra's with 190K going for $3000 on Craigslist.
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These aren't the numbers I'm seeing on KBB or on Craigslist. There are 2007 Elantra's with 190K going for $3000 on Craigslist.
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i dont buy it check your hoses the tiny one by the egr valve it could be ignition coil or ignition modulator
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Kelly Blue Book for a 2007 Elantra in good condition with 161,000 sold to a private party is $2940.
http://www.kbb.com/hyundai/elantra/2007/se-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=83868&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=161000&options=6486555|true&condition=good&pricetype=private-party&persistedcondition=good (http://www.kbb.com/hyundai/elantra/2007/se-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=83868&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=161000&options=6486555|true&condition=good&pricetype=private-party&persistedcondition=good)
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People drive rentals like a rock star takes care of his hotel room. Buy a rental at your own peril.
While surely in some instances, it's largely a myth.
People often rent cars in unfamiliar areas, and tend to drive slower because they don't know the terrain. You don't want an accident or trouble with the law.
Last summer, I rented a car in Saratoga. Cops are very vigilant up there. I literally didn't go a mile over any speed limit.
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These aren't the numbers I'm seeing on KBB or on Craigslist. There are 2007 Elantra's with 190K going for $3000 on Craigslist.
Only a fool would pay that much and the person who put up that Craigslist's ad is counting on that. Look up Kelly blue book and Edmunds for that car and mileage as a private person sale.
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Only a fool would pay that much and the person who put up that Craigslist's ad is counting on that. Look up Kelly blue book and Edmunds for that car and mileage as a private person sale.
It also gives the seller some room when he gets a lowball offer. 2k would probably get you any of those 3k ads.
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Only a fool would pay that much and the person who put up that Craigslist's ad is counting on that. Look up Kelly blue book and Edmunds for that car and mileage as a private person sale.
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