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Title: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Marty Champions on February 26, 2016, 04:09:49 PM
the surplus from cutting education and military will cover any losses of revenue do to lowering taxes


berni just acts like he can make things better


you are going to have to cut something to make the country better
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Dave D on February 26, 2016, 04:13:07 PM
Cut education?

Where will the minds be stimulated?

Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Marty Champions on February 26, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Cut education?

Where will the minds be stimulated?


you can learn everything from gene editing , coding to rocket science on youtube

public schools are dragging the country down

use your brain its not difficult to make things right
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Dave D on February 26, 2016, 04:22:09 PM
you can learn everything from gene editing , coding to rocket science on youtube

public schools are dragging the country down

use your brain its not difficult to make things right

Tell that to children from abusive homes, parents that want them working in factories at age 6.....
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: GigantorX on February 26, 2016, 04:23:52 PM
Dept of Education is what, 50 billion a year?

DoD budget is 500-600 billion?

So you'd be cutting around 300 billion per year out of a 3.5 trillion dollar budget...well we don't actually have a true budget and haven't had one in years but you catch my drift.

Historically, tax rates have been around 20% of GDP, further cuts really won't make that much of a difference. It's a red herring for our economic ills.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: WalterWhite on February 26, 2016, 04:37:46 PM
Keep education cut senator and congress salaries.

And add term limits.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 26, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
Overhaul welfare.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 26, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
World wide America spends more on average for a K-12 student than any other country. Yet we're something like 20th when it comes to level of edumacation. Money is not the issue for our learning ailment. 
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: drkaje on February 26, 2016, 04:56:15 PM
What kind of dumbass wants to cut education?!
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Never1AShow on February 26, 2016, 04:57:33 PM
Cut education?

Where will the minds be stimulated?

In this era of YouTube and almost universal computer access, education should be dirt cheap.  There is an amazing amount of free education on YouTube.  Stanford, Yale, Kahn academy.  It's the credential you pay for not the learning.  Learning is free and very cheap and accessible.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Never1AShow on February 26, 2016, 04:59:38 PM
What kind of dumbass wants to cut education?!

Me.  Massive amounts of waste, abuse and fraud.  99 percent of people in even civilized countries don't need more than 10th grade math.  Stem is a lie.  It's all pork, trying to do too much.  The goddamned times tables are easy to teach and learn.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: drkaje on February 26, 2016, 05:03:42 PM
Me.  Massive amounts of waste, abuse and fraud.  99 percent of people in even civilized countries don't need more than 10th grade math.  Stem is a lie.  It's all pork, trying to do too much.  The goddamned times tables are easy to teach and learn.

Education is the only shot some people have. A country full of 10th grade educated fools is only going to fuck things up worse.... if that's even possible.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Tapeworm on February 26, 2016, 05:38:59 PM
In this era of YouTube and almost universal computer access, education should be dirt cheap.  There is an amazing amount of free education on YouTube.  Stanford, Yale, Kahn academy.  It's the credential you pay for not the learning.  Learning is free and very cheap and accessible.

There was a time when it looked like the internet was going to a good source of information.  It is to some degree.  You just have to wade through a lot of sales pitches these days and info tends to be 101ish.  The good old library is still where it's at imo for anything more than a basic overview.  Sadly.

Like recently: Earth augers - hex drive vs square drive.  "Yes, we can supply those!  And adapters!"  You can find nothing about advantages/disadvantages, why you would select one or the other.  Nothing but people wanting to sell you shit.  And I'd buy from the guy willing to provide a comparison.  I bang my head on this wall all the time.  Abrasive compatible hoses with regard to material, weight, and bend radius.  Pumps - actual non-biased comparisons by someone without a dog in the race.  There's nothing.  Just "ours best & best price, u buy nao!"  Ugh.

Cool of these schools to upload tho.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Marty Champions on February 26, 2016, 05:52:36 PM
berni wants to spend more on education and raise taxes lol!!!
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: The True Adonis on February 26, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
And add term limits.
Why?

I find term limits to be an affront to the will of the American people.  If the public wants someone in office, they should be allowed to serve until they are no longer wanted by the public.  Why set an arbitrary limitation?

Its not like there will be a dictator ever here.  Too many checks and balances and we have these things called laws.

I never understood the term limit argument and why its a thing.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Dave D on February 26, 2016, 06:24:34 PM
In this era of YouTube and almost universal computer access, education should be dirt cheap.  There is an amazing amount of free education on YouTube.  Stanford, Yale, Kahn academy.  It's the credential you pay for not the learning.  Learning is free and very cheap and accessible.

Very true, this site is evidence that everyone is an expert without a formal education.

However having youtube certified on a resume doesn't hold as much prestige as it used to...
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2016, 06:31:47 PM
you can learn everything from gene editing , coding to rocket science on youtube

public schools are dragging the country down

use your brain its not difficult to make things right

Do you consider yourself a good example of this theory?
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2016, 06:33:31 PM
Keep education cut senator and congress salaries.

Please share your calculations on how much this will save us.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2016, 06:35:40 PM
And add term limits.

I'm all for term limits. I don't get how term limits will save us tax dollars.

I take it you are not a big picture kinda guy.

Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: drkaje on February 26, 2016, 06:37:16 PM
Cutting foreign aid would free up money for education.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2016, 06:39:26 PM
In this era of YouTube and almost universal computer access, education should be dirt cheap.  There is an amazing amount of free education on YouTube.  Stanford, Yale, Kahn academy.  It's the credential you pay for not the learning.  Learning is free and very cheap and accessible.

Which of these ideas have you personally experienced? Did the degree you got from the school of YouTube do more for you than your degree from Stanford?
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2016, 06:44:27 PM
Me.  Massive amounts of waste, abuse and fraud.  99 percent of people in even civilized countries don't need more than 10th grade math.  Stem is a lie.  It's all pork, trying to do too much.  The goddamned times tables are easy to teach and learn.

So you believe 99% of the people don't need to know math beyond the times tables? By the way, even in my day the times tables were taught in primary school. Check out this link, it should be right up your alley: http://www.topmarks.co.uk/maths-games/7-11-years/times-tables
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2016, 06:45:43 PM
Very true, this site is evidence that everyone is an expert without a formal education.

However having youtube certified on a resume doesn't hold as much prestige as it used to...

I like a fellow with a good sense of humor. Keep it up!
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: drkaje on February 26, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
Very true, this site is evidence that everyone is an expert without a formal education.

However having youtube certified on a resume doesn't hold as much prestige as it used to...

Bullshit and damned lies!!

Next you'll be saying degrees from Wiki and C&P Universities are useless.  :)
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Never1AShow on February 26, 2016, 07:02:47 PM
So you believe 99% of the people don't need to know math beyond the times tables? By the way, even in my day the times tables were taught in primary school. Check out this link, it should be right up your alley: http://www.topmarks.co.uk/maths-games/7-11-years/times-tables

No not just the times tables, there just need to be more times tables.  Easy and simple to learn, just takes some rote work.  But no need for a "new" method to learn math and sell new textbooks every 5 years.

99 percent just need enough math to sit around a poker table or get through a mortgage app and not get taken.  Division, percentages, quick addition and subtraction.  Trigonometry is worthless to 99 percent.  We gotta quit trying to educate everyone for college.  It's neither necessary nor optimal.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Dave D on February 26, 2016, 07:08:10 PM
No not just the times tables, there just need to be more times tables.  Easy and simple to learn, just takes some rote work.  But no need for a "new" method to learn math and sell new textbooks every 5 years.

99 percent just need enough math to sit around a poker table or get through a mortgage app and not get taken.  Division, percentages, quick addition and subtraction.  Trigonometry is worthless to 99 percent.  We gotta quit trying to educate everyone for college.  It's neither necessary nor optimal.

100% agree, getting some young kids involved in a trade school and teaching them how to balance a bank account and save would be more beneficial.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Never1AShow on February 26, 2016, 07:11:23 PM
Which of these ideas have you personally experienced? Did the degree you got from the school of YouTube do more for you than your degree from Stanford?

YouTube wasn't around when I got any of my degrees.  They are just pieces of paper.  The learning is what matters.  If they had a system where you could test out by taking the test or writing an essay and still get the degree because you'd learned it yourself, many many thousands would do it that way.  They won't let that happen because it's just a money racket.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Tapeworm on February 26, 2016, 08:26:58 PM
The benefit of university education versus studying by yourself is that it makes available the necessary time.  Someone who set aside four years/six years/ten years of their life for full time study would be better informed than someone who paid for the same number of years in a classroom, assuming this someone isn't one of the dumb shits who needs a school to carry him through by gearing everything down so his slow ass can keep up. 

Modern tertiary education has nothing in common with institutions which operated in a time when knowledge was unavailable to anyone who could be bothered looking for it.  The attempt by the modern university to present itself as a unique suppository of knowledge is as transparent as the merit badge it bestows on anyone willing to pay the fees and meet an academic standard which even the developmentally impaired could achieve, and apparently do.  You don't need to look too hard to see that they walk among us, pulling their expensive acronyms, which they are forever pointing to, along behind them in a little red wagon.  Essentially, modern university is for people too stupid to learn on their own.  I present: its graduates.

Nevertheless, employers, themselves half-witted alumni of some useless center of overpriced textbooks and uninspired lecturers, take a kindly view of people burdened by obscene debt.  An applicant so poor he'll suck your cock for a quarter.  That's the one to hire.  This is why it is nearly impossible to find employment without a college education.  I, therefore, hope you will look kindly upon my application to attend your little schoolhouse.  I'm not sure which you're in there but it really doesn't matter.  I see little difference between one and the next, so I'm just sending this same letter to everyone.

PS - I have the money.
PPS - I don't want to be fucked with.  I'll quietly attend and quietly graduate and quietly pay all the fees.  Just let that happen and stay out of my way.  Do not fuck with me.




What I shoulda sent.
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Marty Champions on February 26, 2016, 08:51:22 PM
the heavy hitters of gb agreeing with the nigerean falkan
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 26, 2016, 09:33:31 PM
Yes, let's cut the military budget from 18-20% to 10. Brilliant ::)
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Marty Champions on February 27, 2016, 04:51:33 AM
Yes, let's cut the military budget from 18-20% to 10. Brilliant ::)
you have to make obvious cuts but there will always be obscure gov programs popping up left n right messing up the budget
Title: Re: lower taxes and cut education and military 50 percent
Post by: Never1AShow on February 27, 2016, 06:41:46 AM
The benefit of university education versus studying by yourself is that it makes available the necessary time.  Someone who set aside four years/six years/ten years of their life for full time study would be better informed than someone who paid for the same number of years in a classroom, assuming this someone isn't one of the dumb shits who needs a school to carry him through by gearing everything down so his slow ass can keep up. 

Modern tertiary education has nothing in common with institutions which operated in a time when knowledge was unavailable to anyone who could be bothered looking for it.  The attempt by the modern university to present itself as a unique suppository of knowledge is as transparent as the merit badge it bestows on anyone willing to pay the fees and meet an academic standard which even the developmentally impaired could achieve, and apparently do.  You don't need to look too hard to see that they walk among us, pulling their expensive acronyms, which they are forever pointing to, along behind them in a little red wagon.  Essentially, modern university is for people too stupid to learn on their own.  I present: its graduates.

Nevertheless, employers, themselves half-witted alumni of some useless center of overpriced textbooks and uninspired lecturers, take a kindly view of people burdened by obscene debt.  An applicant so poor he'll suck your cock for a quarter.  That's the one to hire.  This is why it is nearly impossible to find employment without a college education.  I, therefore, hope you will look kindly upon my application to attend your little schoolhouse.  I'm not sure which you're in there but it really doesn't matter.  I see little difference between one and the next, so I'm just sending this same letter to everyone.

PS - I have the money.
PPS - I don't want to be fucked with.  I'll quietly attend and quietly graduate and quietly pay all the fees.  Just let that happen and stay out of my way.  Do not fuck with me.

What I shoulda sent.


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