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Title: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 04:04:52 PM
But is getting crushed everywhere else by Hillary.  Not even a fair match.  At least he won his home state... :D
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: polychronopolous on March 01, 2016, 04:15:40 PM
Bernie needs to hang in there.

Put a good showing in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington and a few others.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Nails on March 01, 2016, 04:25:29 PM
So its going to come down to Hilary vs Trump


What a joke


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Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
But is getting crushed everywhere else by Hillary.  Not even a fair match.  At least he won his home state... :D
I see blacks are proving once again how dumb they are.
Are you going to vote for Hillary Vince? 
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
Vermont is a Paradise.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 01, 2016, 04:37:05 PM
Vermont is a Paradise.

A paradise of idiots that think their entitled to everything "free".
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 04:37:42 PM
But is getting crushed everywhere else by Hillary.  Not even a fair match.  At least he won his home state... :D
I don't think you understand how proportional delegates work and the difference between winner take all.   ;)
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 01, 2016, 04:42:04 PM
So its going to come down to Hilary vs Trump


What a joke



Which lying, liberal, elitist, dictatorial scumbag do you wan't...Hitlery or Trump...make you choice.

Fuck this shit.  I'll be staying home on voting day....let it burn.  Fuck it.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 01, 2016, 04:51:10 PM
OMM
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 04:51:59 PM
Which lying, liberal, elitist, dictatorial scumbag do you wan't...Hitlery or Trump...make you choice.

Fuck this shit.  I'll be staying home on voting day....let it burn.  Fuck it.
I'm with you on that one, but Trump is the better choice here.

He will totally dismantle the Republican Party and he is known to be very liberal on issues that matter such as Healthcare-always supported Single Payer.

Plus he may provide us with endless entertainment and may destroy things in the process for the LOLZ.  But yeah, he is the better choice.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: _aj_ on March 01, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
I'm with you on that one, but Trump is the better choice here.

He will totally dismantle the Republican Party and he is known to be very liberal on issues that matter such as Healthcare-always supported Single Payer.

Plus he may provide us with endless entertainment and may destroy things in the process for the LOLZ.  But yeah, he is the better choice.

TA melting hard here.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 04:55:54 PM
I see blacks are proving once again how dumb they are.
Are you going to vote for Hillary Vince? 


I voted for Trump actually....keep him in the race so the Dem's can win.. ;D
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: _aj_ on March 01, 2016, 04:57:11 PM

I voted for Trump actually....keep him in the race so the Dem's can win.. ;D

Haha. I did that same thing in '08 for Obama!
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 05:03:40 PM
TA melting hard here.
How so?

Its my honest assessment and it just so happens to be true.

You think Hillary is a better choice than Trump?
Do you think the Republican Party likes Trump at all?


Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 05:25:44 PM
I don't think you understand how proportional delegates work and the difference between winner take all.   ;)


Yes I do.  All the superdelegates are for Hillary and she's getting the vast majority of other delegates.  Bernie will have to win big in the "Winner Take All" states like Texas and New York to even have a chance.  Obama did it without winning those states but Bernie had to win the black states....which he just isn't.  


Its not that black folks hate Bernie Sanders...its just that we feel that Hillary Clinton is a much better positioned competitor.  We cannot afford to lose to the GOP with Bernie.


Maybe if Bernie campaigned saying that he was Col. Sander's brother then he would have had a shot at the black vote...(Had to get that out first before someone thought of it) ;D  
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 05:30:13 PM

Yes I do.  All the superdelegates are for Hillary and she's getting the vast majority of other delegates.  Bernie will have to win big in the "Winner Take All" states like Texas and New York to even have a chance.  Obama did it without winning those states but Bernie had to win the black states....which he just isn't.  


Its not that black folks hate Bernie Sanders...its just that we feel that Hillary Clinton is a much better positioned competitor.  We cannot afford to lose to the GOP with Bernie.


Maybe if Bernie campaigned saying that he was Col. Sander's brother then he would have had a shot at the black vote...(Had to get that out first before someone thought of it) ;D  
Superdelegates are irrelevant until the nominee has been decided.  They have NEVER been awarded en masse to someone who was not nominated.  Counting them now is nonsensical. Uh, All data has Sanders Beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary can.

Look it up. 
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 05:47:49 PM
Superdelegates are irrelevant until the nominee has been decided.  They have NEVER been awarded en masse to someone who was not nominated.  Counting them now is nonsensical. Uh, All data has Sanders Beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary can.

Look it up. 


The vast majority of them are going to go to Clinton, both Superdelegates and regular delegates.  Sanders may get Massachusetts but every other state is falling to Clinton.

Bernie will be finished tonight.  Even with a 40 million dollar war chest, nobody wants a crusty old socialist
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 05:52:23 PM

The vast majority of them are going to go to Clinton, both Superdelegates and regular delegates.  Sanders may get Massachusetts but every other state is falling to Clinton.

Bernie will be finished tonight.  Even with a 40 million dollar war chest, nobody wants a crusty old socialist
Hardly the case.  There are 35 states left after this with a lot favoring Bernie and are delegate Heavy. Bernie is winning in Oklahoma right now.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 06:01:01 PM
Hardly the case.  There are 35 states left after this with a lot favoring Bernie and are delegate Heavy. Bernie is winning in Oklahoma right now.


TA, Oklahoma has only 38 delegates max and it looks like Bernie will get a little more than half.  He's getting killed in Texas and that has 222 delegates.  Bernie needs to win in California and New York and I don't think that's going to happen.


Just in, Hillary wins Texas
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
Hillary just overtook Sanders in Massachusetts.  Went back to "Too Close To Call"
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
Hillary just overtook Sanders in Massachusetts.  Went back to "Too Close To Call"
Bernie just overtook her again. hahah
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: _aj_ on March 01, 2016, 06:10:17 PM
Bernie just overtook her again. hahah

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Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 06:11:03 PM
Bernie just overtook her again. hahah


No, Bernie is still slightly behind but they are going to end up with an even number of delegates apiece making it a loss for Sanders.  
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 06:12:58 PM

No, Bernie is still slightly behind but they are going to end up with an even number of delegates apiece making it a loss for Sanders.  
You mean a tie.  ::)

Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 06:20:11 PM
Superdelegates are irrelevant until the nominee has been decided.  They have NEVER been awarded en masse to someone who was not nominated.  Counting them now is nonsensical. Uh, All data has Sanders Beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary can.

Look it up. 


Superdelegates can vote for whoever they want.  But Hillary without them is still whipping Bernie even with his superdelegates.

I expect a concession speech and suspension of Bernie's campaign soon.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 01, 2016, 06:32:20 PM
You mean a tie.  ::)




No a loss because Bernie needs all the delegates he can get.  Getting only half in a state that he should have won hands down like Vermont is serious. 
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 09:13:39 PM

No a loss because Bernie needs all the delegates he can get.  Getting only half in a state that he should have won hands down like Vermont is serious. 
Obama got pummeled by Hilary way worse and he was seen as the more liberal alternative to Hilary then.

Bernie did MUCH better than Obama did.  Your predictions thus far have all been wrong.  The other day you said it would be over.  Its FAR from over.  You will see that Bernie wins all the swing states and the big delegate states.  Like I said, Hilary only loses support whereas Bernie only gains.  Bernie will NEVER lose support, Hilary is continually losing support.

Its going to happen and you are going to have to accept it.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2016, 09:44:26 PM

No a loss because Bernie needs all the delegates he can get.  Getting only half in a state that he should have won hands down like Vermont is serious. 
Vince, Bernie actually got more delegates from Massachusetts than Hillary did. 46 to Hillary's 45.

Delegates are allocated for each congressional district. There are 9 congressional districts that get 59 delegates. Those delegates went for Bernie by 30-29.  Delegates are then allocated for at large. There are effectively 32 at-large delegates divided into two groups of 20 and 12. Because it was so close, the 32 get split 16-16.  Therefore Bernie wins more Delegates from MA than Hillary.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MA-D

See how these things work?
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: calfzilla on March 01, 2016, 10:07:38 PM

I voted for Trump actually....keep him in the race so the Dem's can win.. ;D

I fear that may actually be what happens  :-\
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2016, 10:54:17 PM
Hmm
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: TuHolmes on March 01, 2016, 10:56:13 PM
Hmm

That's completely inaccurate though.

Virginia is a swing state and Hillary crushed Bernie there.

Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 02, 2016, 03:27:54 AM
Vince, Bernie actually got more delegates from Massachusetts than Hillary did. 46 to Hillary's 45.

Delegates are allocated for each congressional district. There are 9 congressional districts that get 59 delegates. Those delegates went for Bernie by 30-29.  Delegates are then allocated for at large. There are effectively 32 at-large delegates divided into two groups of 20 and 12. Because it was so close, the 32 get split 16-16.  Therefore Bernie wins more Delegates from MA than Hillary.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MA-D

See how these things work?


Sorry but Hillary won MA and Bernie got 43 will Hillary got 45.  It makes no difference as Hillary is over 1000....even without her Superdelegates, she's got more delegates even if Bernie kept his Superdelegates.


The Score is 1001 for Hillary to Bernie's 371 and there's no sign of California or New York even being close for Bernie.  Bernie has the money to fight but it will make no difference
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: TuHolmes on March 02, 2016, 10:08:47 AM
Bernie supporters are going to be sitting like Ron Paul supporters.

It sucks, but it's what's going to happen.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Las Vegas on March 02, 2016, 10:23:41 AM
If Bernie were African-American, maybe with some transgender or agender claims thrown in when campaigning among whites, he'd have this thing sewn up.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: TuHolmes on March 02, 2016, 10:41:38 AM
If Bernie were African-American, maybe with some transgender or agender claims thrown in when campaining among whites, he'd have this thing sewn up.

Probably true.

I'm really shocked at the black community for so vehemently backing Hillary when Bernie was actually doing real work for equality while she has done pretty much nothing.

On this, I agree with Adonis 100%.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: Las Vegas on March 02, 2016, 10:46:07 AM
Probably true.

I'm really shocked at the black community for so vehemently backing Hillary when Bernie was actually doing real work for equality while she has done pretty much nothing.

On this, I agree with Adonis 100%.

I do, too.  I agree with his 90s theory, as well.  Nothing else makes sense.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: polychronopolous on March 02, 2016, 03:56:08 PM
Probably true.

I'm really shocked at the black community for so vehemently backing Hillary when Bernie was actually doing real work for equality while she has done pretty much nothing.

On this, I agree with Adonis 100%.

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Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 02, 2016, 04:09:01 PM

Sorry but Hillary won MA and Bernie got 43 will Hillary got 45.  It makes no difference as Hillary is over 1000....even without her Superdelegates, she's got more delegates even if Bernie kept his Superdelegates.


The Score is 1001 for Hillary to Bernie's 371 and there's no sign of California or New York even being close for Bernie.  Bernie has the money to fight but it will make no difference
Vince, I don't think you know how to add correctly at all.  I don't think you have a clue as to what you are talking about.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/

Bernie won 41% of pledged delegates so far, with 21.45% of the delegates decided.   Bernie is 3.73% of elected delegates behind, with only 21.45% of elected delegates assigned.

The majority of states left will favor Bernie because the ignorant Hebrew vote is done at this point.

Vince, how did you get it so wrong again?  ???
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
Dude he's done...forget it.....over.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont
Post by: The True Adonis on March 02, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
Dude he's done...forget it.....over.
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