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Title: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2016, 04:11:49 AM
What is wrong with this world, when Trump beats Cruz with the religious group in a southern state?

He's unstoppable.  George Will and I tried to tell everyone back in July of 2015 but nobody listened.  "he has no chance", they said.  Now he's unstoppable.  Trump should NEVER EVER win the evangelical vote.  It's unthinkable. 
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: Straw Man on March 09, 2016, 08:55:03 AM
Lot's of fundies hate Cruz because they think he is dishonest (which of course he is) and they haven't yet figured out that Trump is also dishonest
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: AD2100 on March 09, 2016, 10:05:33 AM
The most "evangelical" demographic in MS are not even counted by the media. Nor do they vote republican.

The U.S. corporate media media needs to cut the bullshit with their constant use of that term and tell it like it really is.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: mazrim on March 09, 2016, 11:13:15 AM
The most "evangelical" demographic in MS are not even counted by the media. Nor do they vote republican.

The U.S. corporate media media needs to cut the bullshit with their constant use of that term and tell it like it really is.
Yep, evangelical is a very broad term/used loosely nowadays.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 09, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
For the sake of a poll isn't evangelical just a person who admits going to church? If you win big you win that demographic as well. Not surprising.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: Straw Man on March 09, 2016, 01:31:06 PM
Aren't these #'s based on exit polls by people who "self identify" as Evangelicals?

If so, then I suspect these is an accurate representation

Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2016, 03:27:29 PM
Aren't these #'s based on exit polls by people who "self identify" as Evangelicals?

If so, then I suspect these is an accurate representation



Worst are the "saved" people who lived as democrats, found God, and somehow support Trump/Rubio over Cruz. 

Biggest hypocrites of the bunch.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 09, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Then trump loses in Idaho that has the biggest concentration of neo Nazis in America.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: headhuntersix on March 09, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
Worst are the "saved" people who lived as democrats, found God, and somehow support Trump/Rubio over Cruz. 

Biggest hypocrites of the bunch.

I don't think they're as single issue as the RNC would have us believe and thus your current state of confusion. I think there is a core group of Christian right voters but I think the 14-24 million that the RNC and I think Cruz is counting on are not single issue and are looking at other things. Rush had a pretty good explanation today. 
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: SupplementGuy on March 09, 2016, 05:41:21 PM
Lot's of fundies hate Cruz because they think he is dishonest (which of course he is) and they haven't yet figured out that Trump is also dishonest

I support no candidates in any fashion but am an active observer. Mr. Cruz has admitted to dishonest strategies in this campaign. Can you provide examples of why you believe Trump to be dishonest?

Of course all politicians are typically dishonest.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: Straw Man on March 09, 2016, 06:35:55 PM
I support no candidates in any fashion but am an active observer. Mr. Cruz has admitted to dishonest strategies in this campaign. Can you provide examples of why you believe Trump to be dishonest?

Of course all politicians are typically dishonest.

I can but I'm curious, are you telling me you're not personally aware of the numerous examples of lying by Donald Trump?
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 09, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
I support no candidates in any fashion but am an active observer. Mr. Cruz has admitted to dishonest strategies in this campaign. Can you provide examples of why you believe Trump to be dishonest?

Of course all politicians are typically dishonest.
Making 9/11 claims. Lying about the employment rate.  His Corp is In court for lying.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: Straw Man on March 09, 2016, 07:20:44 PM
Making 9/11 claims. Lying about the employment rate.  His Corp is In court for lying.

Here's a list of all the lies that Trump told just last night in his speech/informercial after winning the Michigan and Mississippi primaries

http://mashable.com/2016/03/09/donald-trump-infomercial/#1hXTq484yZqr
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: SupplementGuy on March 10, 2016, 04:43:59 AM
Making 9/11 claims. Lying about the employment rate.  His Corp is In court for lying.

Obama has spent his entire administration lying about the unemployment rate. They all lie and spin. Politics is a joke.
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 10, 2016, 05:20:15 AM
Obama has spent his entire administration lying about the unemployment rate. They all lie and spin. Politics is a joke.

Sure. But you asked about trump not Obama. Fact is all candidates lie. 
Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: AD2100 on March 10, 2016, 07:14:46 AM
Aren't these #'s based on exit polls by people who "self identify" as Evangelicals?

If so, then I suspect these is an accurate representation


Yep, evangelical is a very broad term/used loosely nowadays.
NO on both counts.

"Evangelical" as used by the established news media is coded language.
"To the pollster, it is a sociological term.
To the pastor, it is a denominational or doctrinal term.
And to the politician (AND THE NEWS MEDIA),it is a synonym for a white [so-called]Christian Republican.


"Technically speaking, evangelical refers to a person, church, or organization that is committed to the Christian gospel message that Jesus Christ is the savior of humanity."

THEREFORE...
"With state and national Republicans emphasizing religious wedge issues, such as health coverage for contraception and separation of church and state, the media have frequently reported on the demographic most aroused by these issues — evangelical voters. But have the media accurately portrayed these evangelical Christians?

For many, the answer is a resounding “no.”
  
News reports often leave the impression that all evangelical Christians are white and usually support the most conservative Republican candidates. Totally overlooked is the fact that many African-Americans, Latinos and other people of color are evangelical Christians whose views are rarely cited."

Title: Re: Unthinkable: Trump Beats Cruz with Evangelicals in Mississippi
Post by: andreisdaman on March 10, 2016, 09:50:48 AM
NO on both counts.

"Evangelical" as used by the established news media is coded language.
"To the pollster, it is a sociological term.
To the pastor, it is a denominational or doctrinal term.
And to the politician (AND THE NEWS MEDIA), it is a synonym for a white [so-called]Christian Republican.[/b]
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"Technically speaking, evangelical refers to a person, church, or organization that is committed to the Christian gospel message that Jesus Christ is the savior of humanity."


Good post...I believe this to be true..point well made...good job
THEREFORE...
"With state and national Republicans emphasizing religious wedge issues, such as health coverage for contraception and separation of church and state, the media have frequently reported on the demographic most aroused by these issues — evangelical voters. But have the media accurately portrayed these evangelical Christians?

For many, the answer is a resounding “no.”
 
News reports often leave the impression that all evangelical Christians are white and usually support the most conservative Republican candidates. Totally overlooked is the fact that many African-Americans, Latinos and other people of color are evangelical Christians whose views are rarely cited.."