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Title: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 10, 2016, 02:23:59 PM
Just watched interview of the two people of color. They said that they were 15 rows below the guy that punched him, and even if they were saying or even yelling anything that the guy could have never heard them. Then he got punched as he innocently walked up the isle to exit.

BUT THEY R LYING.

for some reason the media keeps editing the video. Watch the whole thing as the innocent victim is yelling at the crowd giving them the double finger a split second before the old man elbows him.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 10, 2016, 02:25:04 PM
Still no reason to punch the guy but if I were at a Steeler game walking up the isle giving the crowd the double finger and yelling i'd expect to get punched too
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 10, 2016, 02:25:28 PM
Media tells the truth!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 10, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
Wasn't this guy trolling them in the first place?  Why go there?  Just as he has the right to protest, the other's have the right to not deal with his shit.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 10, 2016, 02:41:56 PM
Wasn't this guy trolling them in the first place?  Why go there?  Just as he has the right to protest, the other's have the right to not deal with his shit.
yea. The two def were causing a ruckus. I just want one news outlet to ask them about them yelling and giving the finger
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 10, 2016, 02:43:05 PM
Wasn't this guy trolling them in the first place?  Why go there?  Just as he has the right to protest, the other's have the right to not deal with his shit.
Some people prefer to troll old school, in RL.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: TheShape. on March 10, 2016, 03:23:04 PM
GET 'EM OUTA HERE!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: _aj_ on March 10, 2016, 04:05:11 PM
Dindus in general need more punching.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 04:15:29 PM
Just watched interview of the two people of color. They said that they were 15 rows below the guy that punched him, and even if they were saying or even yelling anything that the guy could have never heard them. Then he got punched as he innocently walked up the isle to exit.

BUT THEY R LYING.

for some reason the media keeps editing the video. Watch the whole thing as the innocent victim is yelling at the crowd giving them the double finger a split second before the old man elbows him.



Dumbass had no right whatsoever punching him or assaulting him. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
Just watched interview of the two people of color. They said that they were 15 rows below the guy that punched him, and even if they were saying or even yelling anything that the guy could have never heard them. Then he got punched as he innocently walked up the isle to exit.

BUT THEY R LYING.

for some reason the media keeps editing the video. Watch the whole thing as the innocent victim is yelling at the crowd giving them the double finger a split second before the old man elbows him.

He has the right to give as many fingers as he wants without retaliation.  Freedom of Speech.

Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The Scott on March 10, 2016, 05:39:02 PM
He has the right to give as many fingers as he wants without retaliation.  Freedom of Speech.



Ah...Via ASL, eh?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Nether Animal on March 10, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
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Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Nails on March 10, 2016, 05:46:00 PM
 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 05:57:06 PM
Anyone making trouble would have gotten the same treatment.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 06:03:46 PM
Wasn't this guy trolling them in the first place?  Why go there?  Just as he has the right to protest, the other's have the right to not deal with his shit.

But do others have the right to physically assault someone, even if they do not agree with his protest?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 06:08:22 PM
But do others have the right to physically assault someone, even if they do not agree with his protest?

Does the protester have a right to disrupt an event?

Obviously, two wrongs do make a right but there are many cases where rights collide.

Punching the idiot was wrongish, but I just can't see acting out and then playing the race card anytime there's a consequence.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Hulkotron on March 10, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Fellá got a good shot in.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 06:19:44 PM
Does the protester have a right to disrupt an event?

Obviously, two wrongs do make a right but there are many cases where rights collide.

Punching the idiot was wrongish, but I just can't see acting out and then playing the race card anytime there's a consequence.

Nope, they do not have a right to disrupt an event.

But let the proper authorities take care of the situation.

Unless the guy was physically threatening someone, the audience should not be physically assaulting them. Its not their job. Leave it to the authorities to take care of the situation, unless people in the audience felt their life to be in imminent risk.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Does the protester have a right to disrupt an event?

Obviously, two wrongs do make a right but there are many cases where rights collide.

Punching the idiot was wrongish, but I just can't see acting out and then playing the race card anytime there's a consequence.
Yes, he has the right to protest at a public event.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
You morons are so inconsistent when it comes to physical assault vs free speech its hilarious.


Bottom line: NOBODY has the right to assault someone if they do not like what they say.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: _aj_ on March 10, 2016, 06:23:17 PM
Yes, he has the right to protest at a public event.

Trump rallies are paid for by the campaign and aren't public events. They are invitation only events. Sorry.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
Yes, he has the right to protest at a public event.

I typed disrupt.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 10, 2016, 06:25:45 PM
That group was trolling and purposely disrupting the event.  They were correctly being booted out by security at the time of the assault.

You don't need to assault them first of all and if you do, don't sucker punch the guy because that shit is weak.  The puncher was like 80 years old and I heard he was arrested also.

(it should also be noted that "persons of color" often suckerpunch white people....still no excuse)
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 10, 2016, 06:27:08 PM
You morons are so inconsistent when it comes to physical assault vs free speech its hilarious.


Bottom line: NOBODY has the right to assault someone if they do not like what they say.

And its unfortunate.. I'd enjoy a lot more peace had it been otherwise.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 06:33:35 PM
Trump rallies are paid for by the campaign and aren't public events. They are invitation only events. Sorry.
They are open to the public.  Look on his website.  Not that it even matters.  Still does not have the right to Assault someone.

Its like you want different rules for everyone.  Its pathetic really. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
Nope, they do not have a right to disrupt an event.

But let the proper authorities take care of the situation.

Unless the guy was physically threatening someone, the audience should not be physically assaulting them. Its not their job. Leave it to the authorities to take care of the situation, unless people in the audience felt their life to be in imminent risk.

It's a tough one, for me.

On one hand I feel punching that nitwit was wrong. On the other hand: I feel people would act out less if punches in the face (for bad behavior) happened regularly.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
You morons are so inconsistent when it comes to physical assault vs free speech its hilarious.


Bottom line: NOBODY has the right to assault someone if they do not like what they say.

Yup.

If getbiggers like the message, then free speech applies.

When getbiggers dislike the message, free speech does not apply. Only violence.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: jude2 on March 10, 2016, 06:39:03 PM
They are doing all they can to try to bring Trump down.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 06:41:29 PM
Yup.

If getbiggers like the message, then free speech applies.

When getbiggers dislike the message, free speech does not apply. Only violence.

Its crazy to be honest.  They hold so many contradictory ideas in their mind and are fueled by only bias.  Its batshit.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: jude2 on March 10, 2016, 06:42:40 PM
Carson is going to endorse Trump tomorrow.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 06:43:07 PM
Carson is going to endorse Trump tomorrow.
Why would anyone want that Endorsement?   ???
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
It's a tough one, for me.

On one hand I feel punching that nitwit was wrong. On the other hand: I feel people would act out less if punches in the face (for bad behavior) happened regularly.

Well, that may or may not be true. However, we can only really discuss what the law is.

I am no lawyer or judge, but last I checked, you couldn't punch someone dead in the face for disrupting an event, even a private one (unless they posed some imminent physical risk to others). Let the authorities deal with it.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 06:46:05 PM
They are doing all they can to try to bring Trump down.

They're probably getting Trump more votes, LOL!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 06:48:22 PM
Well, that may or may not be true. However, we can only really discuss what the law is.

I am no lawyer or judge, but last I checked, you couldn't punch someone dead in the face for disrupting an event, even a private one (unless they posed some imminent physical risk to others). Let the authorities deal with it.
By their rationale, Trayvon Martin should have been innocent and Zimmerman should be rotting in jail. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 06:49:59 PM
By their rationale, Trayvon Martin should have been innocent and Zimmerman should be rotting in jail. 

Yup.

This is all very confusing.  :D ???
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 10, 2016, 06:59:08 PM


Dumbass had no right whatsoever punching him or assaulting him. 
agreed. of course he doesn't have the right.

I often think of this when people walk right out in front of your car without looking.

It's this its my right mentality that gets people killed.

Of course the man had no right to elbow him but the guy that got elbowed can't be surprised he got hit.

I sure wouldn't be surprised if I got laid out if I am screaming at a crowd my opposite beliefs while giving them the finger.

They're both at fault.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 07:03:22 PM
Well, that may or may not be true. However, we can only really discuss what the law is.

I am no lawyer or judge, but last I checked, you couldn't punch someone dead in the face for disrupting an event, even a private one (unless they posed some imminent physical risk to others). Let the authorities deal with it.

Who are laws supposed to protect? I think it's wrong that one person can essentially limit the free speech of others while abusing the law's protection.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The Scott on March 10, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Free speech? Yup.  Right to an audience?  Nope.   
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SaintAnger on March 10, 2016, 07:05:46 PM
Both at fault?  Some of you hypocrites make me sick.  

Imagine if a group of suspected black supremacists shoved and harassed a 16 year old white activist girl for disrupting an Obama convention?

Then, one of their elder congregation sucker KO'd a white dude for no good reason -- THEN the white victim gets taken to floor by cops.

You really need to check your priorities in life and look in the mirror.  If that's who you really are (a white supremacist), then accept it and be honest about it.  No beating around the bush anymore.

/Meltdown.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 10, 2016, 07:10:02 PM
Man charged with assaulting protester at Trump rally in North Carolina:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-protest-idUSMTZSAPEC3AU4PKN1
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 07:11:10 PM
Who are laws supposed to protect? I think it's wrong that one person can essentially limit the free speech of others while abusing the law's protection.

 Guy still broke the law who threw the punch.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: f450 on March 10, 2016, 07:11:50 PM
NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DISRUPT ANYONE ELSES EVENT.

I thought this was common knowledge.

You can say your piece but if you attempt to shut down another persons speech by disrupting their event, you are not protected. You can however hold your own event at a different location and air your issues there.

This being said, The punch qualifies as a physical assault and there are laws against that.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 10, 2016, 07:11:53 PM
Yes, he has the right to protest at a public event.

They have the right to throw him out.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The Scott on March 10, 2016, 07:13:08 PM
Some people look for hatred and racism everywhere but in the mirror. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 07:13:19 PM
Both at fault?  Some of you hypocrites make me sick.  

Imagine if a group of suspected black supremacists shoved and harassed a 16 year old white activist girl for disrupting an Obama convention?

Then, one of their elder congregation sucker KO'd a white dude for no good reason -- THEN the white victim gets taken to floor by cops.

You really need to check your priorities in life and look in the mirror.  If that's who you really are (a white supremacist), then accept it and be honest about it.  No beating around the bush anymore.

/Meltdown.

That's a silly analogy.

Both were in the wrong. I just don't feel sorry for the guy who got punched.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 07:13:39 PM
Sheriff Earl “Moose” Butler called the attack cowardly.

“Regardless of political affiliation, speech, race, national origin, color, gender, bad reputation, prior acts or political demonstration, no other citizen has the right to assault another person or to act in such a way as this defendant did," Butler said.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 07:14:47 PM
That's a silly analogy.

Both were in the wrong. I just don't feel sorry for the guy who got punched.

In terms of a moral position, both may have been in the wrong.

In terms of the law, one guy was clearly more in the wrong than the other guy.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: jude2 on March 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Why would anyone want that Endorsement?   ???
He had a pretty big following. I bet they all would welcome him.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 10, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
These Hilter youth rallies are private events and Herr Trump can kick out anyone that he wants to

That doesn't give anyone the legal right to assault someone
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
In terms of a moral position, both may have been in the wrong.

In terms of the law, one guy was clearly more in the wrong than the other guy.
I wish the black guy had a gun and shot the moron who hit him. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
Guy still broke the law who threw the punch.

You're right.

I just don't know if the law (itself) is right. The supreme Court has said there are limits to free speech. Isn't it possible that he (loud guy) was violating the rights of others?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
I wish the black guy had a gun and shot the moron who hit him. 

Oh boy, can you imagine the response then from getbiggers!!!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The Scott on March 10, 2016, 07:21:28 PM
I wish the black guy had a gun and shot the moron who hit him. 

Stop this now.  You're behaving worse than those you criticize. Go bake something nice for someone you love.  No...I am no kidding.  Goodnight, my friend.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 10, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
You're right.

I just don't know if the law (itself) is right. The supreme Court has said there are limits to free speech. Isn't it possible that he (loud guy) was violating the rights of others?

See my previous responses.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 10, 2016, 07:25:43 PM
Stop this now.  You're behaving worse than those you criticize. Go bake something nice for someone you love.  No...I am no kidding.  Goodnight, my friend.
I'm consistent. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 10, 2016, 07:37:12 PM
See my previous responses.

Your post(s) on 'the message and free speech' only apply if free speech only belongs to whoever is loudest. One person shouldn't use Free Speech as a weapon against another.

I'm no Constitutional or Bill of Rights expert but generally feel our forefathers original intent was to limit the government's power, not encourage chimp-screaming at public rallies. 

Before anyone gets it twisted: I'm not comparing this incident to yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. I'm simply stating that all American citizens have a right to exercise free speech in a way that doesn't interfere with others.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 10, 2016, 07:43:09 PM
There is no free speech at a private event (which is what this was)

You also can't assault someone at  private event either
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SaintAnger on March 10, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
There is no free speech at a private event (which is what this was)

You also can't assault someone at  private event either

The black dude had every right to protest and attend the event.  He may be black, but he is an American still, and that means means something to you Patriots, right?  Trump is vying to be leader of the free fucking world.  I'd say that gives any of us a right to attend in any form or fashion as long as its civil.

Don't play stupid.  You are about to draw my ire.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 10, 2016, 08:15:08 PM
It's a tough one, for me.

On one hand I feel punching that nitwit was wrong. On the other hand: I feel people would act out less if punches in the face (for bad behavior) happened regularly.

That type of honesty isn't welcome around here.

I get your point and see where you're coming from.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: TheShape. on March 10, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
Though I defend throwing these people out, the guy who threw the punch had no right to do that. I disavow!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 10, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
I wish the black guy person of color had a gun and shot the moron who hit him. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Marty Champions on March 10, 2016, 08:26:12 PM
that redneck was pretty stupid but i enjoyed watcghin it
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 10, 2016, 08:28:25 PM
I believe a lot of people posting in this thread have a right and a privilege confused.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 10, 2016, 09:24:24 PM
The black dude had every right to protest and attend the event.  He may be black, but he is an American still, and that means means something to you Patriots, right?  Trump is vying to be leader of the free fucking world.  I'd say that gives any of us a right to attend in any form or fashion as long as its civil.

Don't play stupid.  You are about to draw my ire.

believe me I share you intense dislike of Trump and even the whiff of an idea that he could be the leader of this country

go back and look at my last post

no one has any right to physically attack someone else for their speech
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 11, 2016, 12:05:04 AM
believe me I share you intense dislike of Trump and even the whiff of an idea that he could be the leader of this country

go back and look at my last post

no one has any right to physically attack someone else for their speech

didn't trump say he'd pay the legal bills is someone whooped on a protester?

sounded good at the time.. but sure could get messy now.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: anabolicguru on March 11, 2016, 12:22:11 AM
So, if a white person goes to the ghetto in a KKK outfit, no one should lay a finger at him, just sayn.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: anabolicguru on March 11, 2016, 12:36:42 AM
What's right, and what's expected are two different matters.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 11, 2016, 12:48:27 AM
What's right, and what's expected are two different matters.

It's expected to hit a dindu that has wandered where it/they don't belong.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: anabolicguru on March 11, 2016, 01:47:47 AM
It's expected to hit a dindu that has wandered where it/they don't belong.

agreed
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Conker on March 11, 2016, 02:03:06 AM
It's a tough one, for me.

On one hand I feel punching that nitwit was wrong. On the other hand: I feel people would act out less if punches in the face (for bad behavior) happened regularly.


yep freedom of speech would be greatly stifled. like in countries with dictators, people won't to speak out for fear of violence. you really sound like a  staunch supporter of the land of the free. lol

tbh i think there must be a case for trump being brought up on an incitement charge. hasn't he been talking about wanting to punch protesters etc...would the old guy have done what he did if trump wasn't spouting his nonsense?

even though was a bit of sucker punch, still a very good punch on that old guy tbf lol


Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: bigmc on March 11, 2016, 02:19:27 AM
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Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 11, 2016, 02:20:29 AM

yep freedom of speech would be greatly stifled. like in countries with dictators, people won't to speak out for fear of violence. you really sound like a  staunch supporter of the land of the free. lol

tbh i think there must be a case for trump being brought up on an incitement charge. hasn't he been talking about wanting to punch protesters etc...would the old guy have done what he did if trump wasn't spouting his nonsense?

even though was a bit of sucker punch, still a very good punch on that old guy tbf lol



Let's handle that incitement charge right after we wrap up Benghazi and the private email servers of our former Secretary of State!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: _aj_ on March 11, 2016, 03:13:59 AM
They are open to the public.  Look on his website.  Not that it even matters.  Still does not have the right to Assault someone.

Its like you want different rules for everyone.  Its pathetic really. 

Nope, the public is offered an invitation. A distinction with a difference. Of course, that doesn't allow somebody to be assaulted, but it does allow for individuals or groups to be removed if they are being disruptive, as their "invitation" would be considered revoked.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 11, 2016, 03:30:49 AM
Let's just look at it with common sense... if people were free to "speak" whenever or wherever they want then that's a free pass to ruin any speech or discussion, and that would be just insane bullshit.

Let's say during that sitdown interview with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates a few years ago some Linux asshole just starts spewing bullshit about how Windows and Mac sucks.

Do people really think Linux man is allowed to do this?

What a fucking disservice that would be to both the audience and the speakers... Let him talk outside or hand out fliers, but he can't set up his own fucking podium in the crowd!
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 11, 2016, 03:58:43 AM

yep freedom of speech would be greatly stifled. like in countries with dictators, people won't to speak out for fear of violence. you really sound like a  staunch supporter of the land of the free. lol

tbh i think there must be a case for trump being brought up on an incitement charge. hasn't he been talking about wanting to punch protesters etc...would the old guy have done what he did if trump wasn't spouting his nonsense?

even though was a bit of sucker punch, still a very good punch on that old guy tbf lol




Perhaps we'd get lucky and only stupid speech would be stifled. :)

I admit punching the guy was wrongish. There needs to be some balance between rights to express oneself and respecting the rights of others. One asshole shouldn't be able to stop the show. :)
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 11, 2016, 04:23:21 AM
There is no free speech at a private event (which is what this was)

You also can't assault someone at  private event either

You can if its private property and used justified force to remove them from the premises
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 11, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
You can if its private property and used justified force to remove them from the premises

sure, within reason,  but that's not at all what is happening in the video
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 11, 2016, 09:50:35 AM
sure, within reason,  but that's not at all what is happening in the video
unless the guy argues that the guy giving the fingers was yelling death threats?  Stretch but then would that hold up?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 11, 2016, 10:13:24 AM
unless the guy argues that the guy giving the fingers was yelling death threats?  Stretch but then would that hold up?

I'm sure there are lots of imaginary scenarios where the use of force would be justified

In this particular situation the guy was walking out and gets blindsided by some redneck

absolutely no way to justify that and your hint would be that the guy who punched him is being charged with assault
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Papper on March 11, 2016, 10:22:01 AM
So what if a person of color got punched? Why is color so important all the time? At the Oscars, in politics.. Et cetera

If a white guy gets punched at a Obama rally, is that supposed to say something about Obama?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Straw Man on March 11, 2016, 10:44:51 AM
So what if a person of color got punched? Why is color so important all the time? At the Oscars, in politics.. Et cetera

If a white guy gets punched at a Obama rally, is that supposed to say something about Obama?

I'm sure Trump would have no problem inciting violence against a person of any color
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 11, 2016, 12:10:15 PM
So what if a person of color got punched? Why is color so important all the time? At the Oscars, in politics.. Et cetera

If a white guy gets punched at a Obama rally, is that supposed to say something about Obama?
the reason I wrote that it was a person of color is because that's exactly how the news channel I was watching introduced it. That's where I even came up w the person of color phrase. I agree. I said to my wife at the time there's a double standard. They don't need to mention it's a person of color. They do it to incite their viewers. And just walking out peacefully is one thing but again to the post just above, the guy wasn't JUST waking out. He was yelling and giving the people the double finger and just put his hands down approx one second before the guy ELBOWED him.

Still not justification to strike him but not unexpected.

Common sense, I still stand by my analogy if I go to a Steeler game and rant n rave that they suck, f u all, give people the finger w both hands raised as I'm waking up the isle screaming I know I can most likely sue someone if I get decked and they shouldn't hit me but I'd sure expect to get hit.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 11, 2016, 12:13:58 PM
Also I thot this was funny. Today the news was interviewing a Cruz supporter asking how he felt about Carson endorsing trump after the things trump said about him. And asked if Cruz would suport trump
After the nasty back and forth those two had.

The guy said no, Cruz should punch him in the face.

Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Papper on March 11, 2016, 12:20:35 PM
the reason I wrote that it was a person of color is because that's exactly how the news channel I was watching introduced it. That's where I even came up w the person of color phrase. I agree. I said to my wife at the time there's a double standard. They don't need to mention it's a person of color. They do it to incite their viewers. And just walking out peacefully is one thing but again to the post just above, the guy wasn't JUST waking out. He was yelling and giving the people the double finger and just put his hands down approx one second before the guy ELBOWED him.

Still not justification to strike him but not unexpected.

Common sense, I still stand by my analogy if I go to a Steeler game and rant n rave that they suck, f u all, give people the finger w both hands raised as I'm waking up the isle screaming I know I can most likely sue someone if I get decked and they shouldn't hit me but I'd sure expect to get hit.

Of course, my post was not directed at you at all. It was to provoke extra thought in people who gobbles this up. I understand well that this is a news blowup, part of fighting Trump.

I'm sick of race angles everywhere. Time to start focusing on culture and mentality. Skin color is so banal

Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Fortress on March 11, 2016, 03:34:31 PM
Crocodile Dundee taking his Trump support seriously.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Nails on March 11, 2016, 04:56:36 PM
It appears another one of his rallys today were postponed due to several fights in the stands lol


CNN showing all hell breaking loose in chicago , fights everywhere with black protesters and white trump supporters
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Nails on March 11, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn (http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn)


Live Feed
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 11, 2016, 05:25:43 PM
http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn (http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn)


Live Feed

St. Louis

St. Louis: 32 Arrested After Violence Breaks Out at Donald Trump Rally, Police Say
Supporters and protestors clashed at Trump's rally at Peabody Opera House on Friday. One person was charged with assault, and 31 were charged with general peace disturbance, news outlets reported.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Svengoolie on March 11, 2016, 05:26:04 PM
Quote
Chicago community activist Quo Vadis said hundreds of protesters had positioned themselves in groups around the arena, and that they intend to demonstrate right after Trump takes the stage. Their goal, he said, is "for Donald to take the stage and to completely interrupt him. The plan is to shut Donald Trump all the way down."

And this is why people are getting elbowed in the face.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: _aj_ on March 11, 2016, 05:28:33 PM
St. Louis

St. Louis: 32 Arrested After Violence Breaks Out at Donald Trump Rally, Police Say
Supporters and protestors clashed at Trump's rally at Peabody Opera House on Friday. One person was charged with assault, and 31 were charged with general peace disturbance, news outlets reported.

The Dindus telegraphed that they were going to cause trouble. This is gonna be a great election season, maybe I can finally have a justifiable homocide of a democrat.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: SF1900 on March 11, 2016, 05:33:47 PM
Man charged with assaulting protester at Trump rally in North Carolina:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-protest-idUSMTZSAPEC3AU4PKN1

Well, no surprise there. He assaulted him.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2016, 07:15:47 PM
He has the right to give as many fingers as he wants without retaliation.  Freedom of Speech.



I see. It's only freedom of speech when it benefits the left.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2016, 07:17:56 PM
http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-supporters-trump-rally-yell-sanders/
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 11, 2016, 08:05:13 PM
Did anyone see the "Trump hates puppies" and " No Mexicans = no tacos" signs?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2016, 08:07:56 PM
Did anyone see the "Trump hates puppies" and " No Mexicans = no tacos" signs?

Keep in mind these are Sanders supporters staged by "move on". These people don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and for $5 and a bottle of ripple would say and do anything.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2016, 08:13:34 PM
https://www.facebook.com/TheKellyFile/videos/1772511536297037/


Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 11, 2016, 08:39:10 PM
Once again all eyes on trump lol
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: jude2 on March 11, 2016, 08:39:13 PM
Did anyone see the "Trump hates puppies" and " No Mexicans = no tacos" signs?
Yes, what a joke these fools are.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 11, 2016, 09:13:00 PM
It appears another one of his rallys today were postponed due to several fights in the stands lol


CNN showing all hell breaking loose in chicago , fights everywhere with black protesters and white trump supporters
Hell broke loose a long time ago in Chicago...

http://heyjackass.com/
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 11, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
I see. It's only freedom of speech when it benefits the left.


you think, in america, one should be allowed to PUNCH OUT someone who gives the middle finger?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 11, 2016, 11:39:42 PM
you think, in america, one should be allowed to PUNCH OUT someone who gives the middle finger?


Yes, especially since the guy that gave the middle finger threw the first punch. All bets off.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 11, 2016, 11:48:49 PM
Yes, especially since the guy that gave the middle finger threw the first punch. All bets off.

did you see the video of the black dude walking out and the 72 year old man steps out of the audience and sucker punches him in the head?

that's the clip i'm talking about - do you think that is okay?  Dude was walking for the door after giving the finger... man who punched him was in no way part of the initial beef... just decided to sucker punch him.

Are you saying, in america, it's okay to do that?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 11, 2016, 11:49:45 PM
Anyone who supports "punishing someone for middle finger/words" by punching them in the face...

they don't respect the constitution.  Freedom of speech, even if you don't like what the other person is saying.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 11, 2016, 11:52:22 PM
did you see the video of the black dude walking out and the 72 year old man steps out of the audience and sucker punches him in the head?

that's the clip i'm talking about - do you think that is okay?  Dude was walking for the door after giving the finger... man who punched him was in no way part of the initial beef... just decided to sucker punch him.

Are you saying, in america, it's okay to do that?
Once you're over 70 it's pretty much a free pass.

He's old, he doesn't know any better! The guy has the punching power of a newborn baby; it's basically a play fight.
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 11, 2016, 11:55:40 PM
Once you're over 70 it's pretty much a free pass.

He's old, he doesn't know any better! The guy has the punching power of a newborn baby; it's basically a play fight.

he threw a nice punch, maybe even double-tapped him, from the video.   Clean shot to the side of the head as the dude was leaving. 

Trump should NEVER have said he'll pay the legal bills if someone lays hands on the protesters.  He said that, and suddenly they're all getting their ass whooped.   

You CANNOT punch someone because you don't like their words.  Remove them, put a tress pass on them, but that's it.  nobody punched joe wilson when he yelled "liar" at obama, remember?  ;)
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Coffeed on March 12, 2016, 12:07:01 AM
he threw a nice punch, maybe even double-tapped him, from the video.   Clean shot to the side of the head as the dude was leaving. 

Trump should NEVER have said he'll pay the legal bills if someone lays hands on the protesters.  He said that, and suddenly they're all getting their ass whooped.   

You CANNOT punch someone because you don't like their words.  Remove them, put a tress pass on them, but that's it.  nobody punched joe wilson when he yelled "liar" at obama, remember?  ;)
How do you feel about throwing shoes?
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2016, 12:23:59 AM
Bush was too fast for shoes.  And that dbag went to prison. 


Drudge has video of protester speaking then getting yanked backwards hard to the ground at a rubio rally. 

You cannot assault people for talking. 
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: Rami on March 12, 2016, 01:28:52 AM
No more weak shit


A failed state run by corrupt politicians, inhabited by violent criminals begging for hand outs


Study case:

Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: MANGOOS on March 12, 2016, 02:46:32 AM
No more weak shit


A failed state run by corrupt politicians, inhabited by violent criminals begging for hand outs


Study case:


Is it something new? Only people who doesnt want to see this are talking how bad and racist Trump is. Do you think these "protesters" who are at every Trump rally is peaceful? They arent...

P.S. Where are these antiracist black protesters when Louis Farrakhan is telling that white people are devils and that he wants a army who will kill white people? Ask any of these BLM "protesters" and they will tell that hes GOOD. 100%. Only stupid libtards catch on this shit.



P.S.S.
240 I dont remember you being so upset when multiple white persons was attacked and even one was killed when they supported BLM rallying with them. Where u was then? Is this USA future?

And I even dont understand why Trump is being called racist. Because he wants ILLEGALS out? Who of these stupid libtards would want to live in a country without borders.

Next generations of white people will bu fucked.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 12, 2016, 04:24:56 AM
he threw a nice punch, maybe even double-tapped him, from the video.   Clean shot to the side of the head as the dude was leaving. 

Trump should NEVER have said he'll pay the legal bills if someone lays hands on the protesters.  He said that, and suddenly they're all getting their ass whooped.   

You CANNOT punch someone because you don't like their words.  Remove them, put a tress pass on them, but that's it.  nobody punched joe wilson when he yelled "liar" at obama, remember?  ;)
why do people keep saying this. From the first time i saw the vid it's clear it was an elbow strike and not twice. We're splitting hairs here but since u r describing it so vividly it wasn't a punch. I better change the thread title.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 12, 2016, 04:30:51 AM
I thot it was odd tho I wonder if the old guy is or was a scrapper. Only people w experience elbow like that. Inexperienced fighters tend to swing or lash out wildly when angered. I say he's got a bit of experience.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: _aj_ on March 12, 2016, 04:46:24 AM
After last night in Chicago, I'm guessing this is going to go sideways fast. It's time for Citizens to start fighting back here.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2016, 05:05:17 AM
Obamas terrorist buddy...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: CalvinH on March 12, 2016, 05:08:14 AM
Obamas terrorist buddy...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/


I hope if you're up this early Cali time it's because you have a t-time...
Title: Re: Person of color punched at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 12, 2016, 05:27:10 AM
Yes, what a joke these fools are.

If trump builds a wall, those people will have to take the Mexican jobs.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Tapeworm on March 12, 2016, 05:51:12 AM
Please don't use that goofy description.  He's a black man.  It's ok to say black man.  Can I get an amen?
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 12, 2016, 05:53:50 AM
Please don't use that goofy description.  He's a black man.  It's ok to say black man.  Can I get an amen?

Too positive of a term for use at GetBig.

You're gonna get reported to the Mods.  >:(
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Tapeworm on March 12, 2016, 06:24:01 AM
Too positive of a term for use at GetBig.

You're gonna get reported to the Mods.  >:(

I used to work with a dude from El Salvador.  The boss-man leans across his desk to me, asks me what the guy's name is and whispers ..."the darker skinned fellow."

So I whisper back, "You don't have to whisper.  He's not in the room.  And I think he knows he has dark skin."

White folk.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 12, 2016, 06:30:23 AM
I used to work with a dude from El Salvador.  The boss-man leans across his desk to me, asks me what the guy's name is and whispers ..."the darker skinned fellow."

So I whisper back, "You don't have to whisper.  He's not in the room.  And I think he knows he has dark skin."

White folk.

Few years ago DGF's brother was dating this goofy chick. She asked what We prefer to be called, a friend chimed in and said "People usually prefer to be called by their names". :)
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Tapeworm on March 12, 2016, 06:36:11 AM
Few years ago DGF's brother was dating this goofy chick. She asked what We prefer to be called, a friend chimed in and said "People usually prefer to be called by their names". :)

I'm sure this guy would have.  Rodney.  Yep, Rodney the El Salvadorian.  Quietest dude you ever met, hardly said a word.

So everyone called him Rowdy.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2016, 06:52:57 AM

I hope if you're up this early Cali time it's because you have a t-time...

I wish that was the reason. I don't sleep much now a days. In bed by about 11 and up at 4:30.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 12, 2016, 08:31:23 AM
Mainstream media failing miserably in their all out attempt at keeping Trump from the presidency
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2016, 08:51:43 AM
You know this would be a violent protest when you have an Obama terrorist speaking out.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 12, 2016, 09:00:02 AM
You know this would be a violent protest when you have an Obama terrorist speaking out.

WTF are you talking about?
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2016, 10:20:15 AM
WTF are you talking about?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/bill-ayers-protests-trump-in-chicago/
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Nails on March 12, 2016, 10:22:22 AM
(http://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/node_primary/primary_image/16/03/heil_lady.jpg)
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2016, 10:27:45 AM
(http://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/node_primary/primary_image/16/03/heil_lady.jpg)

when a lib in the crowd waves a commie flag, it's a sign that all protesters are unemployed commies.

when a trump supporter in the crowd throws hitler hand, it's obviously.. um... a liberal plant, of course.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
(http://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/node_primary/primary_image/16/03/heil_lady.jpg)
GEEEEEZ  ::)  too many Tequila shots ?
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: drkaje on March 12, 2016, 10:41:39 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/bill-ayers-protests-trump-in-chicago/

I cant take any media too lazy to hide their agenda seriously.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: bigmc on March 12, 2016, 10:42:47 AM
the real loser here is american politics

i havent heard one point of view on policies

its all about smearing the individuals

its a shame
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: The True Adonis on March 12, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
the real loser here is american politics

i havent heard one point of view on policies

its all about smearing the individuals

its a shame
Listen to Bernie Sanders for that.  He is the ONLY one in that respect that talks policy.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 12, 2016, 11:13:49 AM
Listen to Bernie Sanders for that.  He is the ONLY one in that respect that talks policy.

And these are his libtard supporters presented to you by Move on. Get the fuck out of my country Ables you communist POS.
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 12, 2016, 11:14:03 AM
Listen to Bernie Sanders for that.  He is the ONLY one in that respect that talks policy.

Take our hard earned money and spend it like a drunken sailor on social leaches is not policy
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: MANGOOS on March 12, 2016, 11:18:13 AM
And these are his libtard supporters presented to you by Move on. Get the fuck out of my country Ables you communist POS.
Sanders voters are brainless zombies sames as Clintons voters.

Proof ;D ;D ;D:

Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Nails on March 12, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12804802_960514517319761_5382169986707737811_n.jpg?oh=da7810b86458dcd1bf250c310cb156aa&oe=57564611)
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: mr.turbo on March 12, 2016, 10:15:35 PM
the real loser here is american politics

i havent heard one point of view on policies

its all about smearing the individuals

its a shame

as if the europeans are any better

leading the way neo-nazi style across the board
Title: Re: Person of color elbowed at trump rally.
Post by: Slik on March 12, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12804802_960514517319761_5382169986707737811_n.jpg?oh=da7810b86458dcd1bf250c310cb156aa&oe=57564611)
if wolfe would worry half as much about the standing calf as he did his diuretics.....