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Jeb thinks so now. The list of people who believe this is growing.
Republican leaders are currently thrashing about - holding secret meetings, issuing confidential memos and making public denunciations - as they approach a state of near panic over what Donald Trump is doing to their party. It's enough to make some believe that Mr Trump may not have the Republican establishment's best interests at heart.
Could Donald Trump be a secret double-agent, sent by Democrats to destroy their party from within?
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who has borne the brunt of more than a few Trump barbs, seems to think there's a possibility.
"Maybe Donald negotiated a deal with his buddy Hillary Clinton," Mr Bush tweeted this week, after Mr Trump cited a poll showing his supporters would stick with him if he left the Republican Party. "Continuing this path will put her in the White House."
The New York billionaire has a spotty political history, at best. He was a Republican, then he was a pro-choice Democrat, and now he's a fire-breathing, anti-immigration populist conservative.
Could this latest iteration of Mr Trump's political brand be just a ruse, the elaborate cover for a liberal saboteur who has spent the past year setting explosives that threaten the unity of the party he pledged to support?
He's belittling his Republican colleagues. He's pulling the party to the nativist right in direct conflict with the goal set by strategists in 2013 to appeal to a more ethnically diverse nation. And he's generally sucking up all the political oxygen, making it harder for other candidates to get their message out. All in all, many experts say he's making it much more difficult for a Republican to win the general election next fall. Maybe he's doing it on purpose.
It's a theory that has been bubbling long before Mr Bush's recent Twitter accusation.
"If Donald Trump were a Democratic mole placed in the Republican Party to disrupt things, how would his behaviour be any different?" asked conservative political commentator George Will in July. "I don't think it would be."
"Mr Trump has a close friendship with Bill and Hillary Clinton," he said. "They were at his last wedding. He has contributed to the Clintons' foundation. He has contributed to Mrs Clinton's Senate campaigns. All of this is very suspicious."
Of course Mr Trump has also contributed to plenty of Republicans. He likes to boast that he has "bought" politicians of all stripes. And Mr Trump's wedding was a coveted invitation for all of New York City's elite, of which the Clintons were definitely part.
But there's more.
Also suspicious - for those predisposed to suspicion, at least - is a "mystery" phone call between Mr Trump and Bill Clinton in May, less than a month before the real-estate tycoon tossed his hat into the presidential ring.
The details of that call are shrouded in secrecy, but that hasn't stopped conservatives from speculating that the seeds of a Machiavellian plan were sown.
Just over a week later Republican Congressman Carlos Curbelo of Florida called Mr Trump "a phantom candidate recruited by the left to create this entire political circus." And he laid out what is the foundation of the Trump conspiracy theories.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35066940
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Interesting... Trump ALWAYS says something super-crazy right when Hilary is about to face a negative news cycle involving her own scandals. IF this is the case - and trump does this each time to minimize the PR damage to Hilary - then this is freakin' BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Destory jeb/walker, punk everyone else, win the nomination AND keep hilary out of the news with his outrageous statements. And sadly, this is something I said all along - he gets WAY MORE headlines than hilary, and he will keep her scandals on page 2 of the newspapers/news shows.
Let's keep watching - EVERY TIME Hilary is hit with a terrible news story - see if trump doesn't appear on a mic, five minutes later, to talk about something crazy and suck all of the oxygen out of the news cycle ;)
Noah Rothman of Commentary magazine spies a pattern in Mr Trump's diatribes, whose timing, he argues, "tends to often coincide with scandalous revelations that reflect poorly on Democratic politicians".
Mr Trump, for instance, made his comments about closing US borders to all Muslims just a day after President Barack Obama's poorly received White House address on the so-called Islamic State.
Stories about Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton's email server and actions following the Benghazi consulate attack in 2012 have likewise been swamped by Trump-mania.
"None of this establishes either correlation or causation, but it is remarkably coincidental how often Donald Trump has rescued Democrats from the jaws of a terrible news cycle and the withering scrutiny of the press," he concludes.
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He may be, and if so Slick Willy Clinton truly lives in political air that others can't breathe.
As I've said, if the GOP is that weak to not fend him off then they deserve it. Everything they've tried looks just poorly done.
I expect Rubio to get up there and scream and cry "it's not fair!" soon.
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I suggested this long ago and you suggested it even before that.
When you look at it, if the goal was to completely dismantle the GOP and hand the election to Hillary, then he pretty much accomplished that.
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Jeb taking this position gives it big credibility.
Bbc and some repubs in congress say it now.
The biggest defense is "no, he wouldn't do that". It's starting to wear thin. Like Will said, if he was a troll for the dems, would he be doing a single thing differently? ;)
MSnbc talked today about the pattern of media stories- trump starting feuds and dropping tweets to pull attention from stories. Some Internet troll with TiVo will uncover a massive pattern now that it's been 9 months.
Will be tough to deny it then, if massively media shrewd trump has rescued Hilary from bad press exactly every single time lol
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He certainly forced the other candidates to establish their views on certain issues, that is for sure. No more of this wiffle waffle sitting on the fence shit they hide behind in order to pander for votes.
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Jeb taking this position gives it big credibility.
Bbc and some repubs in congress say it now.
The biggest defense is "no, he wouldn't do that". It's starting to wear thin. Like Will said, if he was a troll for the dems, would he be doing a single thing differently? ;)
MSnbc talked today about the pattern of media stories- trump starting feuds and dropping tweets to pull attention from stories. Some Internet troll with TiVo will uncover a massive pattern now that it's been 9 months.
Will be tough to deny it then, if massively media shrewd trump has rescued Hilary from bad press exactly every single time lol
no it doesn't
Jeb got his ass handed to him and got publicly humiliated.
He and the rest of the GOP are looking for excuses....anything to explain why they got their asses kicked
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This is stupid.
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This is stupid.
LOL - Bum and I agree on something. I think this happens about once every 5 years
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This is stupid.
Keep saying that. I was right about Trump sucking all of the oxygen out of the race, and I was right about the anger/stupidity of the base letting trump CRUSH everyone in the primaries. Time showed I was correct both times.
And I'll be right about Trump being a dem plant, too. Just give it time. Some will admit it before others, but the end result will be several things
1) trump hijinks overshadow hilary crime news
2) top repubs are neutered and punked
3) no viable hilary opponent arrives
4) bernie is known as a commie and bashed despite being a distant 2nd (helping hilary again)
5) hilary wins the white house.
all of these will happen, brother.
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Keep saying that. I was right about Trump sucking all of the oxygen out of the race, and I was right about the anger/stupidity of the base letting trump CRUSH everyone in the primaries. Time showed I was correct both times.
And I'll be right about Trump being a dem plant, too. Just give it time. Some will admit it before others, but the end result will be several things
1) trump hijinks overshadow hilary crime news
2) top repubs are neutered and punked
3) no viable hilary opponent arrives
4) bernie is known as a commie and bashed despite being a distant 2nd (helping hilary again)
5) hilary wins the white house.
all of these will happen, brother.
you're seriously delusional
just tell me what's in it for Trump and how they planted him
Hillary (along with everyone else) is denouncing Trump so what's he going to get out of a Hilary win
Also, why does a malignant narcissist do something for anyone other than himself
Finally, no one was predicting that Trump was going to be a viable candidate much less destroying the other Repubs when he started so you're suggesting that Bill and Hilary somehow knew this (why else plant him if he's just going to be another loser candidate in a crowd of losers) and of course at some point they will rein him in so Hilary can then coast to victory and then of course (according to your premise) someone will admit the she did this (ha ha - jokes on you fellow citizens - I just tricked you into giving me the white house by using Donald Trump with all his vile rhetoric, inciting violence, etc...). Yeah, that will go over really well with everyone in the country (Dems and Repubs alike)
Unless you're just trolling I'm losing respect for your opinion with this one
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just tell me what's in it for Trump and how they planted him
his friends for almost 30 years, hilary/bill, win the most powerful job on earth?
how they planted him
Bill clinton admitted calling him right before he decided, and "encouraged" him to get "more involved"
Dude, I love that your argument has disintegrated to "but but but how did they set it up" and "what could one possibly gain from being best buddies with POTUS" - - - if you're reaching that far into the excuse bucket, I think we can all agree there's some merit to this theory.
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his friends for almost 30 years, hilary/bill, win the most powerful job on earth?
doesn't mean shit
Bill clinton admitted calling him right before he decided, and "encouraged" him to get "more involved"
don't know that what you've written is true and also doesn't mean shit (yeah - join the other 16 friggin candidates)
Dude, I love that your argument has disintegrated to "but but but how did they set it up" and "what could one possibly gain from being best buddies with POTUS" - - - if you're reaching that far into the excuse bucket, I think we can all agree there's some merit to this theory.
I've asked you since Day 1 how they "planted" him and what's in it for him (again try to remember that Trump is now poison)
You've never given any response
How about addressing the other questions in my last post
how do they rein him in and how will it look when the country finds out that Hilary and Donald played EVERYONE
how is that good for either of them
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3187192/Bill-Clinton-denies-encouraging-Donald-Trump-run-White-House-against-Hillary-says-property-tycoon-phoned-time-time-finally-spoke-Bill.html
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don't know that what you've written is true and also doesn't mean shit (yeah - join the other 16 friggin candidates)
this makes me think you haven't paid attention to this argument all along.
this is one of the BIGGEST points about trump being a plant - what in the WORLD is the spouse of the leading dem doing, calling up a potential competitor and ENCOURAGING him to run AGAINST his wife?
Smells fishy - and it's very odd you didn't know about this one.
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Straw, you actually commented IN THE THREAD back in August of last year when I revealed to getbig that Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to run:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=577583.msg8161160#msg8161160
It's very real, and very troubling. imagine if Cruz' wife called up Bernie and encouraged him to run - people would be crying foul BIG TIME.
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this makes me think you haven't paid attention to this argument all along.
this is one of the BIGGEST points about trump being a plant - what in the WORLD is the spouse of the leading dem doing, calling up a potential competitor and ENCOURAGING him to run AGAINST his wife?
Smells fishy - and it's very odd you didn't know about this one.
I commented on that thread and this post of yours in particular
Clinton, Trump chat fuels conspiracy theories
Source: MSNBC
Just a few weeks ago, Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.), raised a bizarre conspiracy theory. As the Miami congressman told a local radio show, maybe Donald Trump’s entire presidential campaign is an elaborate scheme – cooked up by Democrats – to make Republicans look ridiculous and undermine the GOP.
Curbelo’s theory seemed a little over the top, but he’s not the only one who’s floated the idea. After this Washington Post report was published late yesterday, the conspiracy theorists felt a degree of vindication.
Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men. Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.
The article added that the former president, according to the sources close to Trump, “listened intently” to the Republican’s ideas, and then “analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the GOP base.”
NBC News confirmed soon after that the conversation took place in late May, before Trump formally announced his candidacy. There are apparently some disagreements over the specific details – Clinton’s office, for example, said the former president and Trump had a casual conversation that did not relate to the 2016 race – but for those who see Trump as a Democratic plant, the particulars are less important than the call itself.
Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/clinton-trump-chat-fuels-conspiracy-theories
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Hey 240
how about addressing my questions
1. How did they "plant" him
2. Does a malignant narcissist do anything for anyone other than himself
3. If "planted" what was their strategy...did they know he would destroy all other candidates and be the front runner
4. How do they rein him in
5. What does Trump get out of it given that the Hilary (along with all other Dems and maybe Republicans) have denounced him.
6. How will it look to the country when it's "revealed" that Trump and Hilary teamed up to trick the country into handing her the POTUS
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Straw Man, what do you mean with this part?
6. How will it look to the country when it's "revealed" that Trump and Hilary teamed up to trick the country into handing her the POTUS
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Do I think that Hill and Bill "planted" Trump - as in sat down and conducted a plan to get him in the race?
No, I don't.
Do I think that Trump entered the race primarily to hurt the other GOP candidates, thus enabling Hillz to win the WH after he (Trump) crashed and ran as a third party candidate? Yes, I do.
However, I don't think even Trump himself could have guessed he would have this much support and popularity at this point. I think he honestly thought he would come in, sling some mud and force the candidates to cement themselves to issues and stances that they couldn't fence-sit on and in the end, help Hillary by running as a third party candidate. I think Trump's plan all along was the destroy the GOP from within.
Not that Hillz really needed any help winning anything against this group of losers.
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Straw Man, what do you mean with this part?
I was replying to 240's premise
The whole idea is beyond idiotic for all the reasons I've stated.
Trump isn't working for and doesn't care about anyone exept Trump.
240 believes the Clintons planted Trump (though refuses to address my numerous questions about it) but assuming it were true and it does come out then it DESTROYS both Clinton and Trump. They are both now poison in the eyes of their supporters/voters.
The both just punked the entire country and their own supporters.
Keep saying that. I was right about Trump sucking all of the oxygen out of the race, and I was right about the anger/stupidity of the base letting trump CRUSH everyone in the primaries. Time showed I was correct both times.
And I'll be right about Trump being a dem plant, too. Just give it time. Some will admit it before others, but the end result will be several things
1) trump hijinks overshadow hilary crime news
2) top repubs are neutered and punked
3) no viable hilary opponent arrives
4) bernie is known as a commie and bashed despite being a distant 2nd (helping hilary again)
5) hilary wins the white house.
all of these will happen, brother.
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I was replying to 240's premise
The whole idea is beyond idiotic for all the reasons I've stated.
Trump isn't working for and doesn't care about anyone exept Trump.
240 believes the Clintons planted Trump (though refuses to address my numerous questions about it) but assuming it were true and it does come out then it DESTROYS both Clinton and Trump. They are both now poison in the eyes of their supporters/voters.
The both just punked the entire country and their own supporters.
But even in the craziest of scenarios, I couldn't see anything becoming properly revealed.
Do you think the effect has so-far been the same as it would be, otherwise, if indeed Trump had some conscious intent to help Hilary?
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Do I think that Hill and Bill "planted" Trump - as in sat down and conducted a plan to get him in the race?
No, I don't.
Do I think that Trump entered the race primarily to hurt the other GOP candidates, thus enabling Hillz to win the WH after he (Trump) crashed and ran as a third party candidate? Yes, I do.
However, I don't think even Trump himself could have guessed he would have this much support and popularity at this point. I think he honestly thought he would come in, sling some mud and force the candidates to cement themselves to issues and stances that they couldn't fence-sit on and in the end, help Hillary by running as a third party candidate. I think Trump's plan all along was the destroy the GOP from within.
Not that Hillz really needed any help winning anything against this group of losers.
What makes you believe that and what would Trump have gotten out of that?
What does Trump get out of destroying the GOP (remember this guy was a rabid birther who endorsed Romney in 2012 and now you think hre really just wants to help Hilary for some reason)
If Trump hadn't done so well (which no one predicted) then what would have been the point of him running (or planting himself as it seems you're suggesting). Just to be another loser who doesn't do shit? How is that supposed to help Hilary
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But even in the craziest of scenarios, I couldn't see anything becoming properly revealed.
Do you think the effect has so-far been the same as it would be, otherwise, if indeed Trump had some concious intent to help Hilary?
I dont think Trump wants to do anything to help either Hilary or the Democratic party at all.....period
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I dont think Trump wants to do anything to help either Hilary or the Democratic party at all.....period
Do you think he regrets how it appears he's done exactly that?
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Do you think he regrets how it appears he's done exactly that?
I doubt he believes it appears that way
I'm sure he believes he's going to be the nominee and that he's going to beat Hilary
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I doubt he believes it appears that way
I'm sure he believes he's going to be the nominee and that he's going to beat Hilary
I'm waiting to see what the general run brings. It's going to make it much more difficult for anyone trying to hide true intentions.
But as to what LurkerNoMore said, I could see a very specific function for Trump to perform, which would be to act as a hedge against potentially damaging news-stories.
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I'm waiting to see what the general run brings. It's going to make it much more difficult for anyone trying to hide true intentions.
But as to what LurkerNoMore said, I could see a very specific function for Trump to perform, which would be to act as a hedge against potentially damaging news-stories.
and what is in it for him?
he's spent millions of his own money to be a hedge against damaging stories about Clinton
he's also duping all his rabid supporters who no doubt hate Hilary
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and what is in it for him?
he's spent millions of his own money to be a hedge against damaging stories about Clinton
he's also duping all his rabit supporters who no doubt hate Hilary
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If he's the personality you say (and I don't doubt that he is) he doesn't give a shit about anyone else.
As to what's in it for him, that's the question to look at. Whatever it might be, needs only to satisfy him.
And from what I understand, from very early after taking the lead, he has been hauling in significant money from donations.
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Btw, Straw Man. I do understand what you're saying. It absolutely does come down to the fundamental question as to WHY Trump would work to place someone else, rather than himself, in the WH. Yes.
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Btw, Straw Man. I do understand what you're saying. It absolutely does come down to the fundamental question as to WHY Trump would work to place someone else, rather than himself, in the WH. Yes.
IMO, because trump enjoys having things go his way - but he greatly dislike hard work.
he's a smart marketer - brilliant - but he's 70 and way past working 12 horus a day reading documents and making decisions. He is on cruise control. his house, car, plane - all nicer than the POTUS has.
he's great in bursts - - - but that kind of intensity for 4 years, working 60+ hours a week? no way.
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What makes you believe that and what would Trump have gotten out of that?
What does Trump get out of destroying the GOP (remember this guy was a rabid birther who endorsed Romney in 2012 and now you think hre really just wants to help Hilary for some reason)
If Trump hadn't done so well (which no one predicted) then what would have been the point of him running (or planting himself as it seems you're suggesting). Just to be another loser who doesn't do shit? How is that supposed to help Hilary
What makes me believe that? The fact he has systematically called all his GOP competition losers, liars, or similar to pedos would be an indication while hardly ever saying anything that strongly about Clinton.
What does he get out of destroying the GOP? His buddy Clinton in the WH.
Why plant himself? As I said, specifically to hurt the other candidates with his name calling and forcing them to commit their campaigns to specific issues and stances rather than fence-sit for more votes.
What has he gotten out of it? Who said he has to get anything out of it? What does he need? Power? Fame? Money? He already has that.
Have you ever wondered why his campaign has hurt the GOP - his own "party" - more than the opposition of the DNC?
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What makes me believe that? The fact he has systematically called all his GOP competition losers, liars, or similar to pedos would be an indication while hardly ever saying anything that strongly about Clinton.
What does he get out of destroying the GOP? His buddy Clinton in the WH.
Why plant himself? As I said, specifically to hurt the other candidates with his name calling and forcing them to commit their campaigns to specific issues and stances rather than fence-sit for more votes.
What has he gotten out of it? Who said he has to get anything out of it? What does he need? Power? Fame? Money? He already has that.
Have you ever wondered why his campaign has hurt the GOP - his own "party" - more than the opposition of the DNC?
this is the only possible motive (and it presumes prescience on the effect of a Trump candidacy)
now tell me what he gets out of Hilary as POTUS
try to remember the he is political poison
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this is the only possible motive (and it presumes prescience on the effect of a Trump candidacy)
now tell me what he gets out of Hilary as POTUS
try to remember the he is political poison
Dude,
If we've now wandered into the area of "Trump obviously didn't do it, because you can't list his motivations for doing it..."
Maybe he just wants to do it. Maybe he thinks hilary is good for america - he certainly thought she was good for NY and good for the country all the times he gave her money. Maybe he just likes the race. Maybe he wants to be a bigger part of history. Maybe he knows he now has love/support of 1/5 of the nation... he can write a book, start a new show, or just retire, and 20% of the nation will buy whatever he sells next.
If we've already shown proof of everything except "motive", I think the PLANT-ERS are making their case quite well.
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this is the only possible motive (and it presumes prescience on the effect of a Trump candidacy)
now tell me what he gets out of Hilary as POTUS
try to remember the he is political poison
Doing a friend a favor. He doesn't have to "get" anything. The man's life will continue just as it is no matter who is in the WH. So if you got a friend running, why not help her out?
I don't think he ever got into this because he was serious about it. Poison? Yes. I agree. Which is why he got into the GOP field. To poison it with his insults, his spotlighting the flip flops of candidates and forcing them to cement their positions and views on issues and turning them into clowns. (which given the field wasn't a hard job at all). After washing out, he would simply run as a third party (remember that hint?) and siphon votes away from the nominee.
Now that Trumpamania has taken off, he probably is taking it seriously and considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe... he could pull this off.
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Dude,
If we've now wandered into the area of "Trump obviously didn't do it, because you can't list his motivations for doing it..."
Maybe he just wants to do it. Maybe he thinks hilary is good for america - he certainly thought she was good for NY and good for the country all the times he gave her money. Maybe he just likes the race. Maybe he wants to be a bigger part of history. Maybe he knows he now has love/support of 1/5 of the nation... he can write a book, start a new show, or just retire, and 20% of the nation will buy whatever he sells next.
If we've already shown proof of everything except "motive", I think the PLANT-ERS are making their case quite well.
I have a clue for you in regards to human behavior
Motive is pretty damn important
Trump has no motive to spend millions of his own money (and his own time) to help Hilary
He gets nothing out of it
He also has no motive to piss off his millions of loyal followers (and I do believe he cares about their adulation, if nothing else)
Oh, and single phone call that you believe prompted Trump into action was Bill returning Trumps call and they never discussed the topic
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Doing a friend a favor. He doesn't have to "get" anything. The man's life will continue just as it is no matter who is in the WH. So if you got a friend running, why not help her out?
I don't think he ever got into this because he was serious about it. Poison? Yes. I agree. Which is why he got into the GOP field. To poison it with his insults, his spotlighting the flip flops of candidates and forcing them to cement their positions and views on issues and turning them into clowns. (which given the field wasn't a hard job at all). After washing out, he would simply run as a third party (remember that hint?) and siphon votes away from the nominee.
Now that Trumpamania has taken off, he probably is taking it seriously and considering the possibility that maybe, just maybe... he could pull this off.
so millions of his own dollars and hundreds of hours of his own time and gets nothing
does that sound like something a world class narcissist and possible sociopath would do?
Keep in mind that this is the guy who talked about running forPOTUS for years and spent the last campaign cycle as the worlds #1 Birther
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so millions of his own dollars and hundreds of hours of his own time and gets nothing
The minute he wins the nomiation, which is very likely, the GOP repays every cent he's spent so far... I heard that today on CNN... is that correct?
He's spent 30 million out of his ten billion net worth. A 70 year old man spending 3% of his worth, which he likely gets back.
I think that the cost is not a factor you should be including, looking at this.
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I have a clue for you in regards to human behavior
Motive is pretty damn important
Trump has no motive to spend millions of his own money (and his own time) to help Hilary
He gets nothing out of it
He also has no motive to piss off his millions of loyal followers (and I do believe he cares about their adulation, if nothing else)
Oh, and single phone call that you believe prompted Trump into action was Bill returning Trumps call and they never discussed the topic
He got/gets that, no denying it. He picked up millions of 'followers' that he didn't have before this, and wouldn't have had a way to get.
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The minute he wins the nomiation, which is very likely, the GOP repays every cent he's spent so far... I heard that today on CNN... is that correct?
He's spent 30 million out of his ten billion net worth. A 70 year old man spending 3% of his worth, which he likely gets back.
I think that the cost is not a factor you should be including, looking at this.
and what about his time and what about fucking over his millions of loyal fans and to what end?
he becomes the nominee and then starts "phase two" where he helps his overlord Hilary to win the election....and then what?
dude, if you want to believe this nonsense go right ahead
As long as it amuses me I'll keep pointing out how ridiculous it is
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and what about his time and what about fucking over his millions of loyal fans and to what end?
he becomes the nominee and then starts "phase two" where he helps his overlord Hilary to win the election....and then what?
dude, if you want to believe this nonsense go right ahead
As long as it amuses me I'll keep pointing out how ridiculous it is
How would they know he fucked them over though?
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Nothing would surprise me these days. I could actually see Trump coming up with an 'I oughtta' plan and going with it. To me, it's just as realistic as anything else this election cycle.
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How would they know he fucked them over though?
according to 240 it will come out that he's really just working to help Hilary become POTUS
I'm sure Trumps millions of loyal brownshirts will have no problem learning their leader was just using them to help Hilary
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according to 240 it will come out that he's really just working to help Hilary become POTUS
I'm sure Trumps millions of loyal brownshirts will have no problem learning their leader was just using them to help Hilary
I could see maybe a growing suspicion, but nothing further. And even that would be limited. People generally expect Hilary to get in the WH, and they generally expect Trump to be a wildman, so that's exactly what they'd see in that scenario. Exactly what's taking place, iow.
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Trump followers will blame the weirdos backing Hilary, and not Trump, for the loss.
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Trump followers will blame the weirdos backing Hilary, and not Trump, for the loss.
except 240 believes that Trump is just a plant working for Hilary and that this will come out at some point
how will Trump followers feel about that?
Trump won't be able to walk it public without one of his betrayed followers trying to kill him
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IMO, because trump enjoys having things go his way - but he greatly dislike hard work.
he's a smart marketer - brilliant - but he's 70 and way past working 12 horus a day reading documents and making decisions. He is on cruise control. his house, car, plane - all nicer than the POTUS has.
he's great in bursts - - - but that kind of intensity for 4 years, working 60+ hours a week? no way.
Soros is 85 years old and still actively trying to destroy White Nations. What would be his motivation at such an age? You are speculating, but maybe Trump cares about the future of his grand children? Any sane white person can see the world is on a very dangerous anti-white path that will end badly even for elite whites on their islands. Unless he does not care about the future of his grand children??