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Title: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: calfzilla on March 23, 2016, 10:57:58 AM
Man I'm in my early 30s and seems like most my age just want to have kids and spend all their time at a shitty job.

All I can think of is having fun. Riding motorcycles, camping, hiking, lifting weights, drinking around a campfire, target shooting. Just so much fun shit to do, why do people focus so much on adulting.

I'm open to marriage if the right chick came along but I will never want to be in a situation where I am adulting 100% of the time and not having much fun. F that!

Speak on this getbig.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 23, 2016, 12:26:11 PM
im with you man, early thirties here. got the married/house/career thing going but i still dont want the responsibility of kids and not doing what i love day in day out. im having a hard time growing up. that life just doesnt interest me. wife and I are arguing about this now.

i love all those things you mentioned, and i love our dogs and life. my friends with kids, all for a select one or two look miserable. the wife who wanted the kids dven looks miserable. its weird. i think i do want kids now so i can make a friend basically. i hate almost everyone else, so it might be cool to make a mini-me

i have almost no friends now....people grow up and move and start families, and distance themselves from people who dont have kids.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: calfzilla on March 23, 2016, 01:55:06 PM
Yes they look absolutely miserable despite what they say. I always judge based on the look rather than a response they are supposed to say.

In before a parent pops in here saying how much of a joy kids are and that we can't possibly understand until we have kids.  ;D
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: Papper on March 23, 2016, 02:03:30 PM
Holy shit I almost thought I was alone, I'm thirties too. Feel like an alien among other guys my age, even younger people around 26 can be much more into the adult hum drum life than me.

I will resist it. Because growing up is partly growing up for real, but also about social pressure and conformity, and that kind of growing up I am not willing to do

I was always the last to start studying, and the last to let go of partying among my friends. Because I had a blast, didn't want to stop you know..?


Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 23, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
For each his own. I've decided long ago that I'll have fun for as long a possible and then I die.
 Make money, when you have enough - you can do pretty much whatever you want and get away with it.

But I suggest another outlook, which we usualy skip/don't think about it. Genes. Not everyone have genes to be able to enjoy every day life like it's fun day in, day out. I mean - many guys/girls are not exactly the best looking, etc... all they ever want is to find someone who'd be willing to stay with them/have regular sex with them for as long as possible and they are content with it, then they have kids, to have something to do (as "having fun" is not so fun when you can't dominate in a physical sense, or at least be somewhat above average). It's a lot more important than people want to admit. It's no fun for a manlet in some social gathering when he can't talk up a girl and see her eyes lighting up, it's no fun for a heavy build female to go out and see all these better looking chicks, it's no fun to be bald and hang around people who have nice full locks, etc... People can denie it, but it's true we are very superficial animals and our body is our survival machine, our avatar that we present ourselves in. Only time people who are physically subpar that have lots of fun are these who are rich and doesn't give a fuck, because everyone still kiss their butt and are afraid of.

I guess you look good and that's why you don't care too much. I feel similar, my dad is 50+, smokes as a chimney, drinks  booze when gets a chance, has spent million years in the direct sun, yet has incredibly good skin (for that lifestyle) and overall looks very good, and I'm a copy of my dad, that means I don't worry about suddenly looking "bad" and not being able to find some pussy, etc...

That and many people just doesn't have a drive to keep on going at fast speed, they start doubting themselves, they search for something calm, easy, predictable, SAFE, comfortable... The funny thing is - once they find this - they start to feel miserable, because all the turns are taken, all the ways are known and every day starts to feel like the last one, no danger, no fear, but no surprises and no "high" at the same time.
 Life is funny and ridiculous survival experiment, I've ceased to analyze it quite some time ago, I just push the pedal now and see where it takes me, if it's nice I'm happy, if it's not nice - I'm still pretty happy and most important, one thing is for sure - I want to live like I'm living now for as long as it's possible, I've worked a lot to come to this state of being, worked as in overall sense, and now that I'm here - bring it on, I'm just begining to really have fun!
 Don't sweat too much of how others are living, your friends, your relatives or me writing this, just have your own goals and keep going doesn't matter how "unordinary" or "crazy" they may look to many. many will end up like you can see now when looking at people who are twice your age who lived "like most". You see a nice view? Good for you if so, I don't see much to strive for.
 

EDIT: it's all in your mind of how it will be. Take a look at this fella and pay attention to what he says at the end. It's a mind that never rests, a mind that is hungry and want's to keep the pace, a mind that is not afraid to dream big, a mind that will have fun for as long as it's possible:

Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2016, 05:35:35 PM
almost thirty here, it's impossible for me to think that I want to settle down. I always have that "what if.." feeling in the back of my head.

but If I really lived my life and pursued my dreams, maybe through that I would find that special woman made just for me. Or not. But I'm not doing now what I really want to do, so I can't say I'm 100% me, so how can I ever be 100% settled down.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: sync pulse on March 23, 2016, 05:38:49 PM
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 23, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
almost thirty here, it's impossible for me to think that I want to settle down. I always have that "what if.." feeling in the back of my head.

but If I really lived my life and pursued my dreams, maybe through that I would find that special woman made just for me. Or not. But I'm not doing now what I really want to do, so I can't say I'm 100% me, so how can I ever be 100% settled down.

"Special woman"  becomes just another pussy after several years of plowing her furiously, sadly. Happens to best of them..
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: _aj_ on March 23, 2016, 06:33:02 PM
Enjoy it while you can, my brothers in iron. Lift big, eat well, smoke the finest weed and bang only dimes.

My blessings are upon you.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2016, 06:46:46 PM
"Special woman"  becomes just another pussy after several years of plowing her furiously, sadly. Happens to best of them..

exactly
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: 2scared2post on March 23, 2016, 06:56:20 PM
Haha, nothing funnier then guys in their 30's resisting "growing up" you are already old as shit, time to rot.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 23, 2016, 06:59:21 PM
Enjoy it while you can, my brothers in iron. Lift big, eat well, smoke the finest weed and bang only dimes.

My blessings are upon you.

Word of Alpha!
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: SF1900 on March 23, 2016, 07:03:31 PM
Here comes all the getbiggers to tell us how to live life lol.  :D
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: XFACTOR on March 23, 2016, 07:08:25 PM
I still have fun. Travel all over the world, party, have fun etc.. But I have definitely made "concessions" and that first year of having that little girl, I way underestimated. I am here to tell you doing the job right is fucking really hard. God that first year was tough
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 23, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
It's all fun and games living in your parents house or with a bunch of room mates. Suddenly your friends are buying houses, cars and living an adult life and you are still in your mother's house hiding your syringes and vials loving the praise of the clueless about your manly physique. 
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: XFACTOR on March 23, 2016, 07:40:55 PM
It's all fun and games living in your parents house or with a bunch of room mates. Suddenly your friends are buying houses, cars and living an adult life and you are still in your mother's house hiding your syringes and vials loving the praise of the clueless about your manly physique. 

Huh?  Sorry you lived that way as a single guy with no kids in his thirties
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: deadz on March 23, 2016, 07:55:14 PM
My son is due in August and I couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: kh300 on March 23, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
The only difference between me at 21 vs 34 is my toys are more expensive.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 23, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
It's all fun and games living in your parents house or with a bunch of room mates. Suddenly your friends are buying houses, cars and living an adult life and you are still in your mother's house hiding your syringes and vials loving the praise of the clueless about your manly physique. 
Bitter old man chimes in.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: Costanza on March 23, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
For each his own. I've decided long ago that I'll have fun for as long a possible and then I die.
 Make money, when you have enough - you can do pretty much whatever you want and get away with it.

But I suggest another outlook, which we usualy skip/don't think about it. Genes. Not everyone have genes to be able to enjoy every day life like it's fun day in, day out. I mean - many guys/girls are not exactly the best looking, etc... all they ever want is to find someone who'd be willing to stay with them/have regular sex with them for as long as possible and they are content with it, then they have kids, to have something to do (as "having fun" is not so fun when you can't dominate in a physical sense, or at least be somewhat above average). It's a lot more important than people want to admit. It's no fun for a manlet in some social gathering when he can't talk up a girl and see her eyes lighting up, it's no fun for a heavy build female to go out and see all these better looking chicks, it's no fun to be bald and hang around people who have nice full locks, etc... People can denie it, but it's true we are very superficial animals and our body is our survival machine, our avatar that we present ourselves in. Only time people who are physically subpar that have lots of fun are these who are rich and doesn't give a fuck, because everyone still kiss their butt and are afraid of.

I guess you look good and that's why you don't care too much. I feel similar, my dad is 50+, smokes as a chimney, drinks  booze when gets a chance, has spent million years in the direct sun, yet has incredibly good skin (for that lifestyle) and overall looks very good, and I'm a copy of my dad, that means I don't worry about suddenly looking "bad" and not being able to find some pussy, etc...

That and many people just doesn't have a drive to keep on going at fast speed, they start doubting themselves, they search for something calm, easy, predictable, SAFE, comfortable... The funny thing is - once they find this - they start to feel miserable, because all the turns are taken, all the ways are known and every day starts to feel like the last one, no danger, no fear, but no surprises and no "high" at the same time.
 Life is funny and ridiculous survival experiment, I've ceased to analyze it quite some time ago, I just push the pedal now and see where it takes me, if it's nice I'm happy, if it's not nice - I'm still pretty happy and most important, one thing is for sure - I want to live like I'm living now for as long as it's possible, I've worked a lot to come to this state of being, worked as in overall sense, and now that I'm here - bring it on, I'm just begining to really have fun!
 Don't sweat too much of how others are living, your friends, your relatives or me writing this, just have your own goals and keep going doesn't matter how "unordinary" or "crazy" they may look to many. many will end up like you can see now when looking at people who are twice your age who lived "like most". You see a nice view? Good for you if so, I don't see much to strive for.
 

Solid post.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Master Blaster on March 23, 2016, 09:08:25 PM
I would try and have it both ways. Have fun and be irresponsible as long as possible, but consider settling down before too late and having kids as well. It feels like an epic adventure some days having kids, when you aren't stuck in the weeds changing diapers.

Life can be Huge and Grand and epic in scope if you are open to that, and having kids will certainly foster that feeling of being a part of a huge spectacle.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: illuminati on March 23, 2016, 09:12:39 PM
Man I'm in my early 30s and seems like most my age just want to have kids and spend all their time at a shitty job.

All I can think of is having fun. Riding motorcycles, camping, hiking, lifting weights, drinking around a campfire, target shooting. Just so much fun shit to do, why do people focus so much on adulting.

I'm open to marriage if the right chick came along but I will never want to be in a situation where I am adulting 100% of the time and not having much fun. F that!

Speak on this getbig.







I'm 55 -- Can't argue with your outlook on life.
Enjoy it we only get the 1 life.
There is no correct way to grow up.

Yes I have 2 sons live with me & house etc-- Divorced.
As for being Grown up only when I have to.
Love Riding my Harley which I have done all the mods to over the years
Driving my convertible, going to the gym, yes spending fun days with
My Lads. Having mini breaks away with Girlfriend.

Sadly not got much £ - so I can't buy all the toys I'd like.
Though generally I have a Good Time & Enjoy my Life.

Just waiting to win the lottery.. Ha ha
Jeez I'd be like 😃👍🏻😃👍🏻😃👍🏻
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: NickEdge779 on March 23, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
Some people take pride in living the "safe" lifestyle. i think women more often than men think like this as they age. Men by nature want to explore, learn, and seek adventure. I think most men are pussy whipped by their wives and to afraid to divorce them for the kids sake so they live a mediocre lifestyle and are ok with it because it brings a innate sense of accomplishment to be a father and raise a child. Sometimes that is better than living the fast life to some people. I'll pick the fast life though.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Coffeed on March 24, 2016, 12:45:26 AM
I just think that, when it's all said and done, if all you've accomplished is riding motorcycles, hung out in bars, lifted weights then you're just not going to be happy about it all.

The opposite end would be Ivan Ilyich, I suppose, and his story is not a happy one.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 24, 2016, 01:09:11 AM
These are the getbiggers that will be working into their mid 60's and 70's.

Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: phreak on March 24, 2016, 01:10:10 AM
Being single is sometimes attractive, but frankly it's also nice being in a stable relationship. IF... you find someone who is also open to living life. It's really odd that our culture for some reason equates 'monogamous relationship' with 'need to give up any and all fun'. Why? Just find someone who you can be crazy with together. Not easy, granted. Mistakes will be made. But mistakes would have been made anyway, just learn and move on.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 24, 2016, 03:38:35 AM
Haha, nothing funnier then guys in their 30's resisting "growing up" you are already old as shit, time to rot.

Noones resisting it, I'm aware I'm old and it's cool, but I don't have any vision of having a partner, far less having kids. I don't have any cravings for settling in and having a family of my own. If I don't have that feeling, then I guess I'm still young, huh? Or what? I'm supposed to feel certain way now?

Not trying to act cool or tough, I just don't feel like "adult" in your terms.

Being single is sometimes attractive, but frankly it's also nice being in a stable relationship. IF... you find someone who is also open to living life. It's really odd that our culture for some reason equates 'monogamous relationship' with 'need to give up any and all fun'. Why? Just find someone who you can be crazy with together. Not easy, granted. Mistakes will be made. But mistakes would have been made anyway, just learn and move on.

See, now you're talking about a unicorn that barely exists. You're also encouraging to do the same fuck ups with a new partner. "just find someone who you can be crazy with". Wow really? Never thought about that before, you must be some sort of genius, are you publishing a book about this new found wisdom :D?

Not having a great job and not being able to travel around the world doesn't help much in finding the special crazy open to living woman neither, lol

Some people take pride in living the "safe" lifestyle. i think women more often than men think like this as they age. Men by nature want to explore, learn, and seek adventure. I think most men are pussy whipped by their wives and to afraid to divorce them for the kids sake so they live a mediocre lifestyle and are ok with it because it brings a innate sense of accomplishment to be a father and raise a child. Sometimes that is better than living the fast life to some people. I'll pick the fast life though.

that's exactly how my 36 year old friend lives now. And he got his kid 2 years ago, how pathetic. I asked him how does it feel to live with that wife, and only being able to fuck that wife without having to feel guilty as shit for the rest of your life? He had no answer to that, but he says the kid is his salvation.

The thing is, it's not about living safe, it's about not having the need in your heart to settle in with one person and be with her forever and ever. And now days people don't whanna argue at all or wrestle, it's like as soon as problems commence in the relationship it's on hold or it ends. That's how my relationships have ended anyway, too many pety arguments or no sex or both.

You guys seriously think that we don't want to grow up and we don't want to take chances in relationships? We don't feel like settling in, it needs to come from your heart.

Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 24, 2016, 03:55:01 AM
Sounds like you fellas think you are living the life style, but you actually aren't.

If you have turned 30 and still haven't got it out of your system, then you are fucked.

Enjoy being the creepy old guy at the party.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: Papper on March 24, 2016, 04:04:58 AM


Yes, it's the Peter Pan syndrome. Do you have a cure?
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 04:12:56 AM
Lol at thinking you can't have kids and still enjoy doing the things you used to.  Plus, you will also enjoy doing stuff with them.  But to each his own.

I remember years ago I got asked to play in a softball tourney, and some of the guys were 10 years older than me.  One guy had a bunch of us over for beers - the guys talked about their kids, but also doing stuff, buying stuff, still fucking women, etc....the person doesn't need to completely change just because they make money and have a family.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 24, 2016, 04:16:27 AM
Sounds like you fellas think you are living the life style, but you actually aren't.

If you have turned 30 and still haven't got it out of your system, then you are fucked.

Enjoy being the creepy old guy at the party.

I definitely am not living the lifestyle.... but I just I don't have any biological need in my brain to settle down and produce a family. If my brain doesn't create that need, well then that's how it is. Oh and suck my dick.

Lol at thinking you can't have kids and still enjoy doing the things you used to.  Plus, you will also enjoy doing stuff with them.  But to each his own.

I remember years ago I got asked to play in a softball tourney, and some of the guys were 10 years older than me.  One guy had a bunch of us over for beers - the guys talked about their kids, but also doing stuff, buying stuff, still fucking women, etc....the person doesn't need to completely change just because they make money and have a family.

so you need to have kids and an ex wife to be able to have sex with women in your 30's ??

what am I missing, I just can't see it that way
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 04:20:25 AM

so you need to have kids and an ex wife to be able to have sex with women in your 30's ??

what am I missing, I just can't see it that way

Who said that?  I was pointing out that misconception that all fun stops and you do a 180 degree change when you have a family.

Either way, you're probably the worst person here to try to comprehend this.  You admittedly got tired of what you described as "your dream girl" after a few months.  You should stop trying to figure this shit out, and just roll with the fact that it's not for you.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 24, 2016, 04:25:39 AM
Who said that?  I was pointing out that misconception that all fun stops and you do a 180 degree change when you have a family.

Either way, you're probably the worst person here to try to comprehend this.  You admittedly got tired of what you described as "your dream girl" after a few months.  You should stop trying to figure this shit out, and just roll with the fact that it's not for you.

yeah it's not for me, definitely. But I do understand what you say, and I get your point of view.

It's just that some people here think that people like me RESIST growing up, but noones resisting. Family is not for everyone, not everyone wants it. Noone here tries to be young forever because it's impossible, but again noone is trying to resist growing up neither. Some people like the idea of a family, some don't.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 04:35:07 AM
Sounds like you fellas think you are living the life style, but you actually aren't.

If you have turned 30 and still haven't got it out of your system, then you are fucked.

Enjoy being the creepy old guy at the party.

You seem to be very self conscious (probably feel "old" and inappropriate to be at the party). Keep in mind that far from everyone feels that way. And most people are fucked regardless, it's enough to look around.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 04:41:46 AM
Lol at thinking you can't have kids and still enjoy doing the things you used to.  Plus, you will also enjoy doing stuff with them.  But to each his own.

I remember years ago I got asked to play in a softball tourney, and some of the guys were 10 years older than me.  One guy had a bunch of us over for beers - the guys talked about their kids, but also doing stuff, buying stuff, still fucking women, etc....the person doesn't need to completely change just because they make money and have a family.

Let's begin from the fact that having kids is enormously egoistical thing to do, keeping in mind that far from everyone has good enough genes to transfer (why I see so many bald, fat, ugly, dysfigured people on daily basis? And no,I'm not living in some kind of ugly ppl camp.) and far from everyone has had a success in life that is remarkable so they could teach their kids how to achieve that. If not - they will be slaving their life away frustrated just like their parents. Oh... I forgot that many people want a "company" to not feel like they are completely fucked over by this life. Yeah.. very pure motivations. We are self centered, egoistical animals and nothing more than that.
 Most decisions people take is out of fear, not out of courage, later on they try to rationalize that it's still "good", when in fact the antidepressants and booze sales are booming. Something doesn't add up. yet these usualy are the first ones who try to preach "what is life about", lol.. The more I think, the more I find this life experiment to be ridiculously funny and ironic.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 04:46:22 AM
yeah it's not for me, definitely. But I do understand what you say, and I agree with you in a sense that I get your point of view.

It's just that some people here think that people like me RESIST growing up, but noones resisting, but family is not for everyone, not everyone wants it. Noone here tries to be young forever because it's impossible, but again noone is trying to resist growing up neither. Some people like the idea of a family, some don't.

Exactly.  

For some reason people in a certain situation need to convince themselves that the other situation sucks so they can feel better about themselves - it's like having to hate the XBox to feel better about your playstation.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 04:50:33 AM
Let's begin from the fact that having kids is enormously egoistical thing to do, keeping in mind that far from everyone has good enough genes to transfer (why I see so many bald, fat, ugly, dysfigured people on daily basis? And no,I'm not living in some kind of ugly ppl camp.) and far from everyone has had a success in life that is remarkable so they could teach their kids how to achieve that. If not - they will be slaving their life away frustrated just like their parents. Oh... I forgot that many people want a "company" to not feel like they are completely fucked over by this life. Yeah.. very pure motivations. We are self centered, egoistical animals and nothing more than that.
 Most decisions people take is out of fear, not out of courage, later on they try to rationalize that it's still "good", when in fact the antidepressants and booze sales are booming. Something doesn't add up. yet these usualy are the first ones who try to preach "what is life about", lol.. The more I think, the more I find this life experiment to be ridiculously funny and ironic.

I like your posts, but one day you will think yourself into a coma.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 04:55:39 AM
I like your posts, but one day you will think yourself into a coma.

I just can't help... and trust me I don't enjoy that pretty often (thinking/pondering too much).
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 04:59:11 AM
Exactly.  

For some reason people in a certain situation need to convince themselves that the other situation sucks so they can feel better about themselves - it's like having to hate the XBox to feel better about your playstation.

We all want to see living other like we do, it feels reassuring. Tho' once I've realized that, I ceased to feel like that, now I'm trying to be as judgmentless as possible in a daily life (except while on GB) and just concentrate on my vision, that surprisingly feels even so much more reassuring. Many people experience many different realities, sometimes so different that it's mind blowing.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 24, 2016, 05:06:11 AM
Exactly.  

For some reason people in a certain situation need to convince themselves that the other situation sucks so they can feel better about themselves - it's like having to hate the XBox to feel better about your playstation.

totally agree
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 05:08:13 AM
I just can't help... and trust me I don't enjoy that pretty often (thinking/pondering too much).

I can relate - my brain fires on all cylinders constantly.

Once, at a bachelor party in Vegas, during a small down time, a friend gave me half a Klonopin pill which he said would help chill before the next phase of bachelor party stuff happened.

Within 10 seconds, I just stopped thinking, and just kind of existed.....it was really, really surreal.  I wondered if that's how "normal" people feel all the time?

Either way, I'm not a fan of meds like that, so I've never done it again.  But it was a cool experience.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: phreak on March 24, 2016, 05:25:12 AM
See, now you're talking about a unicorn that barely exists. You're also encouraging to do the same fuck ups with a new partner. "just find someone who you can be crazy with". Wow really? Never thought about that before, you must be some sort of genius, are you publishing a book about this new found wisdom :D?
Since finding said 'unicorn' took me all of three weeks on an online dating site, this leads me to believe it's not that hard when you are simply honest about what you want from life. But mileage may vary.

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Not having a great job and not being able to travel around the world doesn't help much in finding the special crazy open to living woman neither, lol
Meh, I was making slightly above median income at the time. Trawl universities for those on government assistance: they are smart, ambitious, yet usually low maintenance. If you can't be a sugar daddy, be a Splenda daddy. ;D
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: SuperTed on March 24, 2016, 05:25:59 AM
You can have fun and "grow up" at the same time. It doesn't need to conflict unless you allow it to.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: 10pints on March 24, 2016, 05:26:08 AM
I have contemplated this issue a lot recently. I'm 37 and my wife is keen to have kids. I can easily pass on it all, I'm enjoying my freedom. My brother is 18 months older than me and has 3 young kids. He always looks knackered, and he has aged a lot more than I have.

That said, the only rational argument I can come up with for having kids is: that my wife will have someone to look out for her when I'm dead (all this fast living means I'll likely go early).
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 05:40:32 AM
I can relate - my brain fires on all cylinders constantly.

Once, at a bachelor party in Vegas, during a small down time, a friend gave me half a Klonopin pill which he said would help chill before the next phase of bachelor party stuff happened.

Within 10 seconds, I just stopped thinking, and just kind of existed.....it was really, really surreal.  I wondered if that's how "normal" people feel all the time?

Either way, I'm not a fan of meds like that, so I've never done it again.  But it was a cool experience.

I'll do an acid trip some day, somewhere in a nature with a few good friends, they say it's somewhat similar. Not a fan of getting high at all, tbh almost never've been high in my life, but turning off the mind for at least an hour would be an interesting experience.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 05:43:35 AM

Meh, I was making slightly above median income at the time. Trawl universities for those on government assistance: they are smart, ambitious, yet usually low maintenance. If you can't be a sugar daddy, be a Splenda daddy. ;D

This is actually a good advice for these seeking worthwile female to spend time with. The best thing - you instantly know they are smart and all that's left is to choose the best looking ones (and hope that it goes well). If I'd split with my current gf now and would like to search for a srs gf again, I'd certainly attend some kinf of university parties, gatherings, events, etc... very easy to chat them up and get it going. A fresh 22-24 yo going for a degree with good butt, tits and perky skin, that's as good as it can get.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 05:56:28 AM
I'll do an acid trip some day, somewhere in a nature with a few good friends, they say it's somewhat similar. Not a fan of getting high at all, tbh almost never've been high in my life, but turning off the mind for at least an hour would be an interesting experience.

Having done both mushrooms and acid, I would suggest the mushrooms.   You will feel totally fine after, and it's been a thoroughly enjoyable experience for me every time.

But it's a 5-6 hour ride, not an hour.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 06:02:46 AM
Having done both mushrooms and acid, I would suggest the mushrooms.   You will feel totally fine after, and it's been a thoroughly enjoyable experience for me every time.

But it's a 5-6 hour ride, not an hour.

Will take into account. One needs to get some good quality shrums tho', I guess they are not all equal, in type and effect.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 24, 2016, 06:02:59 AM
Since finding said 'unicorn' took me all of three weeks on an online dating site, this leads me to believe it's not that hard when you are simply honest about what you want from life. But mileage may vary.
Meh, I was making slightly above median income at the time. Trawl universities for those on government assistance: they are smart, ambitious, yet usually low maintenance. If you can't be a sugar daddy, be a Splenda daddy. ;D

Maybe I should go to online dating again, it's been years since I did that.

So you are now with the woman of your dreams eh ;D ? No seriously, if that's the case, good for you bro!

You can have fun and "grow up" at the same time. It doesn't need to conflict unless you allow it to.

Is "growing up" a code for "have kids" ? Because no way can you grow up and be a man without kids, huh

This is actually a good advice for these seeking worthwile female to spend time with. The best thing - you instantly know they are smart and all that's left is to choose the best looking ones (and hope that it goes well). If I'd split with my current gf now and would like to search for a srs gf again, I'd certainly attend some kinf of university parties, gatherings, events, etc... very easy to chat them up and get it going. A fresh 22-24 yo going for a degree with good butt, tits and perky skin, that's as good as it can get.

I'm almost 30? Why would I go to college party events? What would I tell these hot young women? That I have manual job? That I used to look better, but now my scoliosis and damaged knees won't allow me to train the way I want to and have to train however I can to sustain a skinny manlet look? Yeah it would go splendid, hot pussy for days!

I need some amphetamine and testosterone to get that sustainable and steady motivation plus happiness to start doing something productive, like learning languages, learning something you know would make you more appealing to the opposite sex (the hot ones), lol

I mean you people have no clue how some of us have it. It's impossible for some of us. This "growing up" is a miss match between words and meaning. It's great that your life turned out the way it did, but some of us are experiencing a slow motherfucking death already.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 06:04:30 AM
Will take into account. One needs to get some good quality shrums tho', I guess they are not all equal, in type and effect.

Consult with BigRo - not kidding.  He will give you the scoop.

I am not knowledgeable here, I just trusted friends and it was all good.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the same of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 06:19:14 AM

I'm almost 30? Why would I go to college party events? What would I tell these hot young women? That I have manual job? That I used to look better, but now my scoliosis and damaged knees won't allow me to train the way I want to and have to train however I can to sustain a skinny manlet look? Yeah it would go splendid, hot pussy for days!

I need some amphetamine and testosterone to get that sustainable and steady motivation plus happiness to start doing something productive, like learning languages, learning something you know would make you more appealing to the opposite sex (the hot ones), lol

I mean you people have no clue how some of us have it. It's impossible for some of us. This "growing up" is a miss match between words and meaning. It's great that your life turned out the way it did, but some of us are experiencing a slow motherfucking death already.

Well I'm sorry to hear that, really, you re pretty fucked up, but still more interesting than many "normal" people, I'd rather spend some good time with borderline crazy, than with righteus and crhist loving "proper citizens". Not much of an advice I can offer tho, this is a case of "very different realities" that people can have. Only way for you would be to start earning serious money, it would alleviate a lot of that inner discomfort, you could at least make a fool out of yourself and not sweat it too much, as you'd know you'll be back at your nice place and fuck a vip escort. Rob a bank? Silk road market? Kidding... better something legal, start slow and small, to feel comfortable, build it up gradually.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: falco on March 24, 2016, 06:20:07 AM
Man I'm in my early 30s and seems like most my age just want to have kids and spend all their time at a shitty job.

All I can think of is having fun. Riding motorcycles, camping, hiking, lifting weights, drinking around a campfire, target shooting. Just so much fun shit to do, why do people focus so much on adulting.

I'm open to marriage if the right chick came along but I will never want to be in a situation where I am adulting 100% of the time and not having much fun. F that!

Speak on this getbig.

Keep that lifestyle as long as you can. Choose marriage over that ONLY if you find a women that will be a good wife and a good mother. Still... we never too sure.
Once you have kids, your life is over and you start living solely the life of your kids.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 06:25:16 AM

Once you have kids, your life is over and you start living solely the life of your kids.

100% wrong.

But run with that if it makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on March 24, 2016, 06:29:33 AM
I spend all my days working and I like it. I like getting to new levels and learning new things. Having kids to me just kills that and I would go fucking nuts. I don't want a mediocre life where i can't do what i want to.

Plus I know no-one has mentioned it so far in this thread but the amount of older guys I've met who have had their life fucked over by getting married and/or having kids is ridiculous. The laws in too many countries are firmly on the side of the woman and there is way too much risk to a man to get married and have kids. Where would any motivation be to earn more money and push yourself when some bitch you hate gets some of it.

I'm also 36 and look in my 20's. I don't age fast, too much training and good eating and lack of rec drugs. I wonder what will happen when i start looking like i am in my 30's if anything will change with how others perceive me.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: CalvinH on March 24, 2016, 06:32:50 AM
I'm an adult that's still a kid.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Fortress on March 24, 2016, 07:05:32 AM
I live in a nice, two-bedroom condo. Never want to own a house.

I have a secure and very well-paying job. The dough's all mine.

I own a badass Jeep Rubicon that looks like the goddamn Batmobile.

I have zero interest in having a kid. Besides, I love my kids too much to ever have them. This world has become far too beta and fucked up.

I'm single. Don't want to marry or live with a broad. Came close to the former and have done the latter.

I pursue the same passions at 46 that I did when I was 16: music, weight training, etc.

All my oldschool buds are married with kids. They've abandoned themselves to accommodate/satisfy another and be a slave to some snotty child(ren).

I eat a pizza, shatter some PRs in the gym, hit a flick, wack it to some quality porn, and then jam metal CDs.

High school bro wakes to a noisy house, the wife rambling about having to shuttle the kids here and there, is reminded about that "thing" with her sister's family, and is told the night's movie pick has to be friendly to both her sensibilities and the children's.

If he wants any alone/him time, he might be able to score five minutes out in the garage. He thinks that old Hustler might still be in the back of the tools drawer out there. If she finds it, he's in deep do-do.

I'm very satisfied and happy being "immature", thank you very much.

Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: YngiweRhoads on March 24, 2016, 07:26:52 AM
Never married and no kids. I've got a g/f who has one son who lives at home but I do my own thing. ie practice guitar 2-4 hrs a day, gym, study, school, work. Love my life.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2016, 07:27:16 AM
I live in a nice, two-bedroom condo. Never want to own a house.

I have a secure and very well-paying job. The dough's all mine.

I have zero interest in having a kid. Besides, I love my kids too much to ever have them. This world has become far too beta and fucked up.

I'm single. Don't want to marry or live with a broad. Came close to the former and have done the latter.

I pursue the same passions at 46 that I did when I was 16: music, weight training, etc.

All my oldschool buds are married with kids. They've abandoned themselves to accommodate/satisfy another and be a slave to some snotty child(ren). I eat a pizza, shatter some PRs in the gym, hit a flick, wack it to some quality porn, and then jam metal CDs.

High school bro wakes to a noisy house, the wife rambling about having to shuttle the kids here and there, is reminded about that "thing" with her sister's family, and is told the night's movie pick has to be friendly to both her sensibilities and the children's.

If he wants any alone/him time, he might be able to score five minutes out in the garage. He thinks that old Hustler might still be in the back of the tools drawer out there. If she finds it, he's in deep do-do.

I'm very satisfied and happy being "immature", thank you very much.



I wouldn't consider this immature, just your way.   It works well for you.

I just get involved in these threads to show the other side - i do a lot of the exact same shit you do (uncannily similar, lol) within the context of having a family.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 07:28:49 AM
I live in a nice, two-bedroom condo. Never want to own a house.

I have a secure and very well-paying job. The dough's all mine.

I own a badass Jeep Rubicon that looks like the goddamn Batmobile.

I have zero interest in having a kid. Besides, I love my kids too much to ever have them. This world has become far too beta and fucked up.

I'm single. Don't want to marry or live with a broad. Came close to the former and have done the latter.

I pursue the same passions at 46 that I did when I was 16: music, weight training, etc.

All my oldschool buds are married with kids. They've abandoned themselves to accommodate/satisfy another and be a slave to some snotty child(ren).

I eat a pizza, shatter some PRs in the gym, hit a flick, wack it to some quality porn, and then jam metal CDs.

High school bro wakes to a noisy house, the wife rambling about having to shuttle the kids here and there, is reminded about that "thing" with her sister's family, and is told the night's movie pick has to be friendly to both her sensibilities and the children's.

If he wants any alone/him time, he might be able to score five minutes out in the garage. He thinks that old Hustler might still be in the back of the tools drawer out there. If she finds it, he's in deep do-do.

I'm very satisfied and happy being "immature", thank you very much.



Lol. This is epic.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Fortress on March 24, 2016, 07:30:00 AM
Never married and no kids. I've got a g/f who has one son who lives at home but I do my own thing. ie practice guitar 2-4 hrs a day, gym, study, school, work. Love my life.

Been nerding to Lukather lately. Also Jorn Viggo Lofstad of Pagan's Mind and Vogg from Decapitated.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: mazrim on March 24, 2016, 07:51:14 AM
I'm married and soon adopting. As soon as I signed that marriage license the fun just stopped immediately. Terrible life.  ::)
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Man of Steel on March 24, 2016, 07:59:29 AM
I would try and have it both ways. Have fun and be irresponsible as long as possible, but consider settling down before too late and having kids as well. It feels like an epic adventure some days having kids, when you aren't stuck in the weeds changing diapers.

Life can be Huge and Grand and epic in scope if you are open to that, and having kids will certainly foster that feeling of being a part of a huge spectacle.

this is true!
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2016, 08:07:10 AM
this is true!


You are bible thumping confused and not exactly very bright weakling, what do you know what is "true" ffs...
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Yamcha on March 24, 2016, 08:07:58 AM
You are bible thumping confused and not exactly very bright weakling, what do you know what is "true" ffs...

The love of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Disco187 on March 24, 2016, 10:33:20 AM
I feel the same way about this topic.

Ive tried the married game to a beautiful russian girl born in moscow, we were best friends for three years went to new york city on the wknds danced, partied, had amazing sex, had the same friends, same hobbies, sence of fashion.  She was completely loyal couldnt ask for a better companion.

after about 5 years all that changed we went from friends to foes, got very very violent and ended terribly . Luckily I didnt have to pay her a dime all said in done but im not going to get into that.

I want nothing to do with marriage i feel and scene many many times that the two people in time eventually wind up hating each other, most of the time its not done purposely it just seams to happen.

I was also in another relationship long term the second of the two beutiful blonde blue eyed young girl, faked double d tits, the works. Same exact shit happend again.  But this time it was due to finances.  We both had good jobs, not at the same time but after the economy tanked we both got laid off.  Once the bills started to pile up and we couldnt do simple things like go out to dinner, shit just started hitting the fan.

if you want to test your marriage try some financial difficulty .

I persently am single have a nice apartment in the city, make great money,Nice knew car, can buy whatever I want and have a few girls that I see on the wknds and thats plenty!  maybe when im old and grey i will get married to a woman that can take care of herself.!!!! that is a must.

as far as kids, this is just my opinion but i dont know if I would even want to raise kids in todays fucked up social media society where young kids have no respect for anything and they already seam to be know it alls and do not like the word no.  I have tons of experience seeing this first hand.  I can truely say that I have met one kid that I was like dam what a geat teenaged kid.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 24, 2016, 11:20:32 AM
I feel the same way about this topic.

Ive tried the married game to a beautiful russian girl born in moscow, we were best friends for three years went to new york city on the wknds danced, partied, had amazing sex, had the same friends, same hobbies, sence of fashion.  She was completely loyal couldnt ask for a better companion.

after about 5 years all that changed we went from friends to foes, got very very violent and ended terribly . Luckily I didnt have to pay her a dime all said in done but im not going to get into that.

I want nothing to do with marriage i feel and scene many many times that the two people in time eventually wind up hating each other, most of the time its not done purposely it just seams to happen.

I was also in another relationship long term the second of the two beutiful blonde blue eyed young girl, faked double d tits, the works. Same exact shit happend again.  But this time it was due to finances.  We both had good jobs, not at the same time but after the economy tanked we both got laid off.  Once the bills started to pile up and we couldnt do simple things like go out to dinner, shit just started hitting the fan.

if you want to test your marriage try some financial difficulty .

I persently am single have a nice apartment in the city, make great money,Nice knew car, can buy whatever I want and have a few girls that I see on the wknds and thats plenty!  maybe when im old and grey i will get married to a woman that can take care of herself.!!!! that is a must.

as far as kids, this is just my opinion but i dont know if I would even want to raise kids in todays fucked up social media society where young kids have no respect for anything and they already seam to be know it alls and do not like the word no.  I have tons of experience seeing this first hand.  I can truely say that I have met one kid that I was like dam what a geat teenaged kid.

Exactly. Solid post!

My parents were together for 30 years. They had so many ups and downs. My dad cheated on my mother twice, they divorced once and were seperated for a year. My mom didn't have noone during that time and then they remarried. I mean 30 years of joy, battles, wars, arguments, but they did it.

All these perfect mirrage lives having getbiggers should wait few more years, I am certain that nine out of ten of those relationships/mirrages will end up in break up because modern human in 2016 just can't understand commitment during the shittiest phases in mirrage or relationship, because that's when it all counts, that's the ultimate test of your "grown people" values.

Because the values can't be very strong if you can't endure fights and storms in mirrage/relationship, right? I don't know any perfect partnership between man and woman or even same sex, they all have fights, bad ones too, and they mostly break up. Some grown up people..

Knowing all this... some of us rather search for god than for that "perfect woman". Not judging noone tho.

Well I'm sorry to hear that, really, you re pretty fucked up, but still more interesting than many "normal" people, I'd rather spend some good time with borderline crazy, than with righteus and crhist loving "proper citizens". Not much of an advice I can offer tho, this is a case of "very different realities" that people can have. Only way for you would be to start earning serious money, it would alleviate a lot of that inner discomfort, you could at least make a fool out of yourself and not sweat it too much, as you'd know you'll be back at your nice place and fuck a vip escort. Rob a bank? Silk road market? Kidding... better something legal, start slow and small, to feel comfortable, build it up gradually.

I know exactly what to do, but.... you know how it can be. Don't worry, I'm not emo about it, fuck that shit. It's just that sometimes I wish I was like a dog, like if I saw pizza it was like seeing pussy, ya know what I mean ? I mean I want things that I don't need. But I guess I need them if the human genome is coded in a way that human beings need to get shit done in order to feel satisfaction about themselves. I think that's why people try to do things, difficult things, sometimes near death experiences just so they can say "I did it". I mean some people free climb the mountains, but why? Da fuck... But if they didn't do it, they would get depressed. Fucking humanity.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Tapeworm on March 24, 2016, 08:54:39 PM
Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: SF1900 on March 24, 2016, 09:03:24 PM
Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

So, are you implying that you wouldnt want to go on spring break?  ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: calfzilla on March 24, 2016, 09:07:59 PM
Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

Lol seriously some guys say that shit with a straight face.  :D
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Master Blaster on March 24, 2016, 09:29:34 PM
You are bible thumping confused and not exactly very bright weakling, what do you know what is "true" ffs...

I think he was confirming my statement in regards to the fact that having children confers an existential reward beyond mere procreation.

The fact that human kind has perpetuated itself for an untold millennium stretching back before recorded history itself was committed to pen and paper seems to be a pretty good argument in our favor. If you are capable of breathing through more orifices than your slack jawed open mouth, perhaps you can levy an argument towards why his agreement was "not exactly very bright weakling" you pusillanimous discharge of a pathetic Main Board Bottom Feeding Chum Dweller.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 25, 2016, 12:07:34 AM
I think he was confirming my statement in regards to the fact that having children confers an existential reward beyond mere procreation.

The fact that human kind has perpetuated itself for an untold millennium stretching back before recorded history itself was committed to pen and paper seems to be a pretty good argument in our favor. If you are capable of breathing through more orifices than your slack jawed open mouth, perhaps you can levy an argument towards why his agreement was "not exactly very bright weakling" you pusillanimous discharge of a pathetic Main Board Bottom Feeding Chum Dweller.

Are you his lawyer?
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 25, 2016, 12:11:37 AM
Exactly. Solid post!

My parents were together for 30 years. They had so many ups and downs. My dad cheated on my mother twice, they divorced once and were seperated for a year. My mom didn't have noone during that time and then they remarried. I mean 30 years of joy, battles, wars, arguments, but they did it.

All these perfect mirrage lives having getbiggers should wait few more years, I am certain that nine out of ten of those relationships/mirrages will end up in break up because modern human in 2016 just can't understand commitment during the shittiest phases in mirrage or relationship, because that's when it all counts, that's the ultimate test of your "grown people" values.

Because the values can't be very strong if you can't endure fights and storms in mirrage/relationship, right? I don't know any perfect partnership between man and woman or even same sex, they all have fights, bad ones too, and they mostly break up. Some grown up people..

Knowing all this... some of us rather search for god than for that "perfect woman". Not judging noone tho.

I know exactly what to do, but.... you know how it can be. Don't worry, I'm not emo about it, fuck that shit. It's just that sometimes I wish I was like a dog, like if I saw pizza it was like seeing pussy, ya know what I mean ? I mean I want things that I don't need. But I guess I need them if the human genome is coded in a way that human beings need to get shit done in order to feel satisfaction about themselves. I think that's why people try to do things, difficult things, sometimes near death experiences just so they can say "I did it". I mean some people free climb the mountains, but why? Da fuck... But if they didn't do it, they would get depressed. Fucking humanity.


People want to believe in fairy tales, just like man in the sky, etc... They want to believe it, until they fall face straght to the mud. Some still resist to acknowledge the reality, that's human nature I guess.

Regarding near death experiences, the last time I was on one fucked up attraction in one of these fun parks, where they are spinning you high in the air, I srsly thought I'm gonna die, ffs that was scary as hell, but..........I liked it so much, never felt so alive at the same time.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 25, 2016, 05:05:32 AM
People want to believe in fairy tales, just like man in the sky, etc... They want to believe it, until they fall face straght to the mud. Some still resist to acknowledge the reality, that's human nature I guess.

Regarding near death experiences, the last time I was on one fucked up attraction in one of these fun parks, where they are spinning you high in the air, I srsly thought I'm gonna die, ffs that was scary as hell, but..........I liked it so much, never felt so alive at the same time.

It was just a saying. Because there is no perfect woman or man or relationship or mirrage, but those things are absolutely real. Yet people want to endure the hell in the relationship because they can't be alone. Which is crazier, meditating perfection that you can't describe or settling down with pain in the ass in 10 years with regrets and call it life?

I guess you didn't quite understand what I was trying to say, but whatever. Scientists in 100 years will read my post and agree with me ;D.

people do all kinds of shit to feel alive. I just want to understand why do people have the need for stuff they don't need in order to get through the day happy.

 90% of the shit we do has nothing to do with survival but pure cosmetics and adrenalin rush. I can only guess that it's because we don't have to do shit to survive anymore like in the old days waaaay back, we don't have any sense of needing to fight for survival so we need to create gimmicks in order to feel that same rush, and so we can't be happy unless we try to out do ourselves or use drugs/drink alcohol.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: _bruce_ on March 25, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

Hahaha - spoken like a true Road Warrior  :D

@devil-cries: start slowly, studying something interesting. The capacity to learn doesn't come overnight. Delving into something that enables you to have the capacity to solve problems will make you feel better - a lot. It's a male thing... anal-lyze, think, plan, build and succeed.
Training should be ok if you go really light - you can still look good.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 25, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
Hahaha - spoken like a true Road Warrior  :D

@devil-cries: start slowly, studying something interesting. The capacity to learn doesn't come overnight. Delving into something that enables you to have the capacity to solve problems will make you feel better - a lot. It's a male thing... anal-lyze, think, plan, build and succeed.
Training should be ok if you go really light - you can still look good.

I'm not crying, I'm not emo, I'm just bored. And what you said about solving problems will make you feel better is not a male thing it's a human thing. I bet you skipped like 95% of what I typed based on your reply, I acknowledged how people have the need to accomplish things, I just wanted to start a conversation why do people have the need... like scientifically why do we have the need.

get motivated, start slowly, stay consistent, improve, get better... yeah I never thought about that before.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: wes on March 25, 2016, 03:06:22 PM
Growing up is for old people!!   ;)
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 25, 2016, 03:14:16 PM
Growing up is for old people!!   ;)

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Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 25, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
I'm not crying, I'm not emo, I'm just bored. And what you said about solving problems will make you feel better is not a male thing it's a human thing. I bet you skipped like 95% of what I typed based on your reply, I acknowledged how people have the need to accomplish things, I just wanted to start a conversation why do people have the need... like scientifically why do we have the need.

get motivated, start slowly, stay consistent, improve, get better... yeah I never thought about that before.

Well probably - to gain "value" of some sort, to attract pussy/cock, to be able to fuck (sometimes ppl want to fuck other ppl who are out of their league, so they strive to be accomplished in a lot, to compensate for lack of required physical traits).
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 25, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
Well probably - to gain "value" of some sort, to attract pussy/cock, to be able to fuck (sometimes ppl want to fuck other ppl who are out of their league, so they strive to be accomplished in a lot, to compensate for lack of required physical traits).

It's true that people want to stunt for that... is it just merely to get laid or get appreciation? Like those people in instagram are seeking acceptance/appreciation. I think they are getting as much satisfaction from that mirror as they are getting from having sex, because the feeling is already in their head.

But your vital organs and life span doesn't need none of that, it's actually quite distracting, isn't it.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 26, 2016, 03:19:57 AM
It's true that people want to stunt for that... is it just merely to get laid or get appreciation? Like those people in instagram are seeking acceptance/appreciation. I think they are getting as much satisfaction from that mirror as they are getting from having sex, because the feeling is already in their head.

But your vital organs and life span doesn't need none of that, it's actually quite distracting, isn't it.

Regarding IG and similar stuff, it's a pure animalistic pleasure gained from teasing other people, making them jealous, showing that they have/can less. I imagine that pretty much noone would be uploading pics with nice cars and places to IG if everyone around would be able to afford that kind of lifestyle. Rich arabs doesn't show their wealth for each other for ex, they show it to poor western people. It's all mind games of domination/power.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 26, 2016, 04:10:39 AM
Regarding IG and similar stuff, it's a pure animalistic pleasure gained from teasing other people, making them jealous, showing that they have/can less. I imagine that pretty much noone would be uploading pics with nice cars and places to IG if everyone around would be able to afford that kind of lifestyle. Rich arabs doesn't show their wealth for each other for ex, they show it to poor western people. It's all mind games of domination/power.

I agree with that but I don't call it progress or "reaching for better stuff in life". When you say it like that it sounds stupid.

and totally useless... but it feels good I agree.

I'm thinking is it harder to let go of the needs that everyone has in their brain than it is to actually reach for those goals based on pure ego?
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 26, 2016, 04:55:25 AM
I agree with that but I don't call it progress or "reaching for better stuff in life". When you say it like that it sounds stupid.

and totally useless... but it feels good I agree.

I'm thinking is it harder to let go of the needs that everyone has in their brain than it is to actually reach for those goals based on pure ego?

It;s till about survival afterall... You show the world how powerful you are, how other people are weak compared, you get satisfaction and chances of getting quality pussy/cock increase, so it's still about survival however we look at it.

EDIT: an example from my own experience - my friend has a very expensive, very posh car. The last time we pulled over in front of a nightclub with that car, there was a big line in front of a door, Needless to say we came in without waiting, later on - we had bunch of whores all over us (these who were waiting in line while we went str8), grinding butts, pushing their tits into our faces, etc... (some guys who were around, you could see a baffled look on their faces, probably been trying to score for a few hours already and we had a ton of bitches wet in twenty mins lol). The car like that is a pure ego, a sign of power, a show off, but it gets the pussy (survival). Simple math.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 26, 2016, 05:15:16 AM
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Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: devilsmile on March 26, 2016, 06:00:06 AM
It;s till about survival afterall... You show the world how powerful you are, how other people are weak compared, you get satisfaction and chances of getting quality pussy/cock increase, so it's still about survival however we look at it.

EDIT: an example from my own experience - my friend has a very expensive, very posh car. The last time we pulled over in front of a nightclub with that car, there was a big line in front of a door, Needless to say we came in without waiting, later on - we had bunch of whores all over us (these who were waiting in line while we went str8), grinding butts, pushing their tits into our faces, etc... (some guys who were around, you could see a baffled look on their faces, probably been trying to score for a few hours already and we had a ton of bitches wet in twenty mins lol). The car like that is a pure ego, a sign of power, a show off, but it gets the pussy (survival). Simple math.

working in a warehouse for 40 years and living in the same low income neighborhood you will still survie and live just fine. You still refuse to address these useless needs to fine cars, fine clothes, money and body image, none of them will make you survive any better. Hundreds of years ago you needed to survive when you had to hunt to survive, millions of years ago when you had to fight wild animals off your little tribe of people and you fought them off with bows and arrows and fire. That was surviving. All the things you said is just a gimmick and that is it, hence it doesn't make any sense for most people and people like me get bored. I still want all that good stuff but the shit I would have to do to get it? Fuck that.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2016, 07:54:04 AM
working in a warehouse for 40 years and living in the same low income neighborhood you will still survie and live just fine. You still refuse to address these useless needs to fine cars, fine clothes, money and body image, none of them will make you survive any better. Hundreds of years ago you needed to survive when you had to hunt to survive, millions of years ago when you had to fight wild animals off your little tribe of people and you fought them off with bows and arrows and fire. That was surviving. All the things you said is just a gimmick and that is it, hence it doesn't make any sense for most people and people like me get bored. I still want all that good stuff but the shit I would have to do to get it? Fuck that.

Brutal honesty - You're smarter than me but you haven't developed endurance.  I mean the ability to endure discomfort, even when there's no defined benefit.  I don't give a shit about driving a sports car either - I'd prefer understanding the mechanical and materials technology that they employ to talking paint color and pushing on a pedal - but I get the sense you're indulging in rationalization.  Executing involves sweat, not a second by second analysis of whether proceeding with something is worthwhile, what's the payoff, etc.  Being able to shut off your head and just press on through a series of tasks is a good skill.  Beats paralysis by analysis.  Maybe there's a nice house, a nice car, a nice wife as a reward.  Maybe there isn't.  The only certainty is who you will have been.
Title: Re: Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun
Post by: da_vinci on March 26, 2016, 10:55:27 AM
working in a warehouse for 40 years and living in the same low income neighborhood you will still survie and live just fine. You still refuse to address these useless needs to fine cars, fine clothes, money and body image, none of them will make you survive any better. Hundreds of years ago you needed to survive when you had to hunt to survive, millions of years ago when you had to fight wild animals off your little tribe of people and you fought them off with bows and arrows and fire. That was surviving. All the things you said is just a gimmick and that is it, hence it doesn't make any sense for most people and people like me get bored. I still want all that good stuff but the shit I would have to do to get it? Fuck that.

I think you don't take into account, that "survival" in a sense means fucking as much pussy as possible (for men. But men are usualy these who go after all that bling anyway. And females just want status, to show off their "lesser" girl friends that she was able to score an alpha), and all that bling is what enables to increase the chances of doing that. Humans fear, respect and admire only one thing - power, in any shape, in any way.