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Her 4-year-old son accidentally shot her. Now, this gun-loving mom may be facing jail time
By Peter Holley
A Florida mother who was accidentally shot in the back by her 4-year-old son just hours after she bragged about his shooting prowess may face a criminal charge in connection with the incident.
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has asked that Jamie Gilt be charged with a second-degree misdemeanor charge of allowing a minor access to a firearm, according to CNN.
Capt. Gator DeLoach told the network Tuesday that the charge carries a penalty of up to 180 days in jail.
Sheriff’s officials did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.
But, CNN added:
DeLoach said the sheriff’s office supports the rights of citizens to own and possess firearms, but gun owners have the “additional responsibility of ensuring children do not gain unintended access to a firearm in hopes of preventing tragedies like this.”
It will be up to the state attorney’s office to decide whether to charge Gilt. An office spokesman told The Post that the case is under review but declined further comment on the matter.
According to Florida law, it is illegal for minors to possess a firearm unless they are under the supervision of an adult. There are exceptions, the law states — if the minor is at least 16 and engaged in lawful hunting, a recreational shooting activity or marksmanship competition, for instance; or if the weapon is unloaded and being transported to one of those events.
Officials told the Florida Times-Union that Gilt was not supervising her son when he fired a .45-caliber handgun, hitting his mother in the back while she was driving down a road in Putnam County earlier this month.
The Associated Press quoted DeLoach saying that Gilt had placed the loaded weapon underneath the front seat of her pickup before it slid to the back seat, where her son was able to pick it up off the floor after unbuckling himself from a child booster seat.
The AP reported that the gun — which was legally owned — was not in a holster and didn’t have a trigger lock on.
“She was shot through the seat and the round went through her back,” sheriff’s Capt. Joseph Wells told the Times-Union. “There was a booster seat in the back of the vehicle, but, however, the boy was not strapped in when the deputy got to them.”
Hours before the March 8 shooting, Gilt had bragged on Facebook that her son “gets jacked up to target shoot.”
The 31-year-old Jacksonville woman’s social media presence is filled with pro-gun messages, Second Amendment memes and posts supporting the NRA, as well as photos of her posing with weapons.
She appears to maintain a Facebook page called “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense,” which has since been inundated by people criticizing her passion for weapons in light of being shot by her son.
The page includes numerous posts asserting that the government plans to confiscate weapons from U.S. citizens.
Gilt was towing a trailer when the shooting occurred and was on her way to a relative’s home to pick up a horse, police said.
Her vehicle was spotted by a sheriff’s deputy who was driving by and noticed Gilt in the driver’s seat “motioning to him as if she needed assistance,” according to police. After approaching the vehicle, the deputy realized that Gilt had been shot.
“The deputy provided first aid until the arrival of paramedics,” according to a statement released by the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department. “The victim was transported to University of Florida Health in Gainesville and was last reported to be in stable condition. The only other occupant of the vehicle was the victim’s 4-year-old son, who was unharmed.”
Before she went into the emergency room, the statement added, Gilt told police that she’d been shot by her son.
Officials told the Gainsville Sun that they didn’t have information about Gilt’s condition or whether she’d been released from the hospital.
A Florida Department of Children and Families investigation remains open, and Gilt’s children remain in the care of family members, a DCF spokesman told The Post.
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did they apprehend the gun or is it still on the loose???
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What's the point...I've seen a E7 Green Beret shoot his boot because he thought a weapon was unloaded. She is at fault, not for having a weapon but for not securing it and her child. Her failure is not being a 2nd Amendment supporter but because she is a dumbass.
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I'm assuming the kid was in a car seat at that age. How the fuck did he get his grubby little hands on her piece?
If she's trying to be an advocate for gun owners she's doing it wrong. She's just giving the anti's more ammunition....you see what I did there? Clever, right?
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I'm assuming the kid was in a car seat at that age. How the fuck did he get his grubby little hands on her piece?
If she's trying to be an advocate for gun owners she's doing it wrong. She's just giving the anti's more ammunition....you see what I did there? Clever, right?
yeah that's a real mystery
the answer was hidden in the story in the first post
The Associated Press quoted DeLoach saying that Gilt had placed the loaded weapon underneath the front seat of her pickup before it slid to the back seat, where her son was able to pick it up off the floor after unbuckling himself from a child booster seat.
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yeah that's a real mystery
the answer was hidden in the story in the first post
You think I'm gonna read that whole fucking story. Give me the cliffs.
Still, if you are in a car seat you shouldn't be able to reach the floor of the vehicle. Are they that easy to unbuckle?
Think like a liberal and sue the manufacturer of the car seat.
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What's the point...I've seen a E7 Green Beret shoot his boot because he thought a weapon was unloaded. She is at fault, not for having a weapon but for not securing it and her child. Her failure is not being a 2nd Amendment supporter but because she is a dumbass.
Yep.
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You think I'm gonna read that whole fucking story. Give me the cliffs.
Still, if you are in a car seat you shouldn't be able to reach the floor of the vehicle. Are they that easy to unbuckle?
Think like a liberal and sue the manufacturer of the car seat.
They got shit to put your piece in....not sure how one is expected to unload on a shitbag if you weapon in miles away.
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They got shit to put your piece in....not sure how one is expected to unload on a shitbag if you weapon in miles away.
Agreed. Under the seat is no beuno.
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I got a holster behind the passenger seat and I took a course about 4 months ago where we engaged from all 4 seats...holstered/with rifles etc. As long as you practice your plan.
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You think I'm gonna read that whole fucking story. Give me the cliffs.
Still, if you are in a car seat you shouldn't be able to reach the floor of the vehicle. Are they that easy to unbuckle?
Think like a liberal and sue the manufacturer of the car seat.
that explains a lot about you
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What's the point...I've seen a E7 Green Beret shoot his boot because he thought a weapon was unloaded. She is at fault, not for having a weapon but for not securing it and her child. Her failure is not being a 2nd Amendment supporter but because she is a dumbass.
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that explains a lot about you
Whatever you say genius.
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that explains a lot about you
Ouch! :-[
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Ouch! :-[
Those are just hemorrhoids. Put a suppository up your bum and you'll feel better.
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Those are just hemorrhoids. Put a suppository up your bum and you'll feel better.
You got owned! Deal with it! ::)
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You got owned! Deal with it! ::)
Have you people not heard of TLDR? This is the internet. Get with the times and cut to the chase. Nobody likes a wall of text.
Then again, I shouldn't expect a couple of simple minded cock gobblers like you to understand that.
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Gents Pray has been on a roll lately just give him a break if he doesn't want to waste time on this one.
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You got owned! Deal with it! ::)
He owned himself
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He owned himself
If hating a wall of text means I've been owned, then call me Kunta Kinte.
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If hating a wall of text means I've been owned, then call me Kunta Kinte.
yeah, reading is hard
much better to look like an idiot asking a stupid question that has already been answered in the short text you were too lazy to read
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yeah, reading is hard
much better to look like an idiot asking a stupid question that has already been answered in the short text you were too lazy to read
Forgive me for mentioning it but looking like an idiot to you doesn't carry the same weight as looking like an idiot to a real person. I really am fine with it.
Can we get back on topic now. I'd much rather hear about how this one person's carelessness should completely void the 2nd Amendment.
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Forgive me for mentioning it but looking like an idiot to you doesn't carry the same weight as looking like an idiot to a real person. I really am fine with it.
Can we get back on topic now. I'd much rather hear about how this one person's carelessness should completely void the 2nd Amendment.
when did that become the topic
only an idiot would imply or try to pretend that was the topic
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when did that become the topic
only an idiot would imply or try to pretend that was the topic
Maybe you or the op should enlighten us as to why they found this interesting enough to post and comment on??? Amusing anecdote?
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What's the point...
Bay...straw...??? Is there a point to this thread?
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Bay...straw...??? Is there a point to this thread?
LOL - TonyMcDunce shows up to remind us how confused he is
check the title of the article in the first post and see if you can solve the mystery
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So You and bay just want us to be aware of current events?
Thanks, I get it...that's really nice of you two
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http://fox59.com/2016/03/24/homeowner-shoots-intruder-during-attempted-home-invasion/
INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. (March 24, 2016) – A homeowner shot an intruder who tried to break into her Indianapolis home Thursday afternoon.
According to police dispatchers, officers received the call around 12:10 p.m. from a home in the 3200 block of West Banta Road. Family members told FOX59 that an infant was in the home when it happened. A mother heard the burglar get into the home through a window and then took out her pistol.
“She heard the window get busted and she called her husband and said I think somebody’s breaking in the house,” said Edsel Ballard, the woman’s father.
“He broke in through the baby’s window, ok, and when he was coming out the door, my sister was coming out her bedroom door, he aimed and shot at her first and then she shot him,” said Eddie Ballard, the woman’s brother.
The woman exchanged gunfire with the burglar, family members said, and the intruder was hit multiple times. He was taken to an Indianapolis hospital, police said. Dispatchers said the intruder was also carrying zip ties and a walkie-talkie.
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http://fox59.com/2016/03/24/homeowner-shoots-intruder-during-attempted-home-invasion/
INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. (March 24, 2016) – A homeowner shot an intruder who tried to break into her Indianapolis home Thursday afternoon.
According to police dispatchers, officers received the call around 12:10 p.m. from a home in the 3200 block of West Banta Road. Family members told FOX59 that an infant was in the home when it happened. A mother heard the burglar get into the home through a window and then took out her pistol.
“She heard the window get busted and she called her husband and said I think somebody’s breaking in the house,” said Edsel Ballard, the woman’s father.
“He broke in through the baby’s window, ok, and when he was coming out the door, my sister was coming out her bedroom door, he aimed and shot at her first and then she shot him,” said Eddie Ballard, the woman’s brother.
The woman exchanged gunfire with the burglar, family members said, and the intruder was hit multiple times. He was taken to an Indianapolis hospital, police said. Dispatchers said the intruder was also carrying zip ties and a walkie-talkie.
this sort of thing happens countless times and is only reported in local news outlets.
the Lefties will just stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it doesn't exist
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this sort of thing happens countless times and is only reported in local news outlets.
the Lefties will just stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it doesn't exist
Yup but you get an idiot who gets shot with her own guns and morons think that it's news worthy and needs to be brought to people's attention
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yeah that's a real mystery
the answer was hidden in the story in the first post
The lady was clearly and idiot. I don't care how safe you think you're making things, don't let a four year old practice shooting a weapon. A lot of good those lessons did him.
To the quoted text, maybe he was thinking if the kid was properly strapped in, he couldn't pick a gun off a floor. I have two small children, and unless they contract an extreme case of marfans syndrome, they're not reaching anything on the floor. Either way, this parent is a moron and hopefully social services investigates.
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What's the point...I've seen a E7 Green Beret shoot his boot because he thought a weapon was unloaded. She is at fault, not for having a weapon but for not securing it and her child. Her failure is not being a 2nd Amendment supporter but because she is a dumbass.
This ^^
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Yup but you get an idiot who gets shot with her own guns and morons think that it's news worthy and needs to be brought to people's attention
all they can do is cherry-pick the few freak anomalies, because the overall statistics make them look like complete fools and they know it.
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The lady was clearly and idiot. I don't care how safe you think you're making things, don't let a four year old practice shooting a weapon. A lot of good those lessons did him.
To the quoted text, maybe he was thinking if the kid was properly strapped in, he couldn't pick a gun off a floor. I have two small children, and unless they contract an extreme case of marfans syndrome, they're not reaching anything on the floor. Either way, this parent is a moron and hopefully social services investigates.
Pray_4_War said he was too lazy to bother reading the short article or maybe that was just an excuse and he actually doesn't have the attention span to read more than a few sentences.
For some reason a few people on this board think this story is somehow about 2nd amendment rights when it's really about another gun loving idiot who was careless, actually that's too light. Incredibly reckless and I suppose criminally negligent since they want to charge her with a second-degree misdemeanor charge of allowing a minor access to a firearm.
I guess it could have been worse. The poor kid could have just as easily shot her in the head.
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For some reason a few people on this board think this story is somehow about 2nd amendment rights when it's really about another gun loving idiot who was careless
Yea there's no telling why people see this as political instead of just an FYI post...you know OTHER THAN IT BEING POSTED ON A POLITICS BOARD!!!
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Yea there's no telling why people see this as political instead of just an FYI post...you know OTHER THAN IT BEING POSTED ON A POLITICS BOARD!!!
Stawman got owned! Deal with it! ::)
Hahaha.....derp!
(BayGBM this is what you sound like)
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Pray_4_War said he was too lazy to bother reading the short article or maybe that was just an excuse and he actually doesn't have the attention span to read more than a few sentences.
Straw still hammering away one the one sad point he has been able to make in this thread. Pretending not to see the deeper political meaning of the thread.
A broken record, repeating himself. Just taking that victory lap. A lone troll, reminiscing about a previous post where he amused himself.
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Ouch! :-[
Ouch what? Is it the guns fault or the parents? Holy shit.
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Yea there's no telling why people see this as political instead of just an FYI post...you know OTHER THAN IT BEING POSTED ON A POLITICS BOARD!!!
yeah ?
so what?
that doesn't automatically make this story about the 2nd amendment
The only mention of the 2nd amendment is the idiotic woman's prior delusions that the government is coming to confiscate her guns
you seem to think any story that includes the word "gun" is automatically challenging the right the bear arms
In this case the story was about the extreme negligence of a self professed gun nut
The only thing politically consistent in this story is the stupidity of right wingers, the one in the story and the ones that posted on this thread
btw - non-political stuff is posted on this board all the time just like political stuff is posted on the G&O Board.
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yeah ?
so what?
that doesn't automatically make this story about the 2nd amendment
The only mention of the 2nd amendment is the idiotic woman's prior delusions that the government is coming to confiscate her guns
you seem to think any story that includes the word "gun" is automatically challenging the right the bear arms
In this case the story was about the extreme negligence of a self professed gun nut
The only thing politically consistent in this story is the stupidity of right wingers, the one in the story and the ones that posted on this thread
btw - non-political stuff is posted on this board all the time just like political stuff is posted on the G&O Board.
::) lol you're a special kind of stupid
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::) lol you're a special kind of stupid
translation = you know you're wrong and can't defend yourself
Title of the article is: "Her 4-year-old son accidentally shot her. Now, this gun-loving mom may be facing jail time"
Hmm.... I wonder what the subject of the aricle is ?
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translation = you know you're wrong and can't defend yourself
Title of the article is: "Her 4-year-old son accidentally shot her. Now, this gun-loving mom may be facing jail time"
Hmm.... I wonder what the subject of the aricle is ?
Yes I'm wrong for thinking a thread posted on a politics board about guns has anything to do with the second ammendment...like I said, a special kind of stupid
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Yes I'm wrong for thinking a thread posted on a politics board about guns has anything to do with the second ammendment...like I said, a special kind of stupid
tell us what it has to do with the 2nd amendment
let's review the fact of the story once again
paranoid gun nut leaves a loaded gun where her child can access and and the child shoots her in the back and now she is facing criminal charges
other than the fact that a gun was involved the subject of the story is about this idiots criminal negligence.
Not every story that includes the word "gun" is about the second amendment but if you believe that somehow that is the subject of this story then free to connect the dots
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Authorities make decision on gun-lovin' mom shot by son
by the Associated Press
PALATKA, Fla. -- A Florida woman whose 4-year-old son shot her in the back as they rode in her pickup truck will avoid prosecution and any jail time if she satisfies a number of conditions detailed in an agreement announced Friday.
In the deferred prosecution agreement reached with the state attorney's office in Sanford, Jamie Lynn Gilt, 31, agreed to complete a gun safety course, install a mounted holster in her vehicle and provide proof of safe storage of firearms in her home. Gilt also must give 10 speeches about the March 8 shooting and the need to safely secure firearms, according to a news release issued by the state attorney's office on Friday.
The agreement did not specify where the speeches would be given.
Prosecutors say Gilt's son, Lane, was riding in the booster seat when he unbuckled himself and picked up a loaded .45-caliber handgun he found on the floorboard. He fired it through the front seat, striking his mother in the back. He wasn't injured.
Gilt has recovered from her injuries.
Gilt is apparently a gun lover who made numerous social media postings about gun rights, including one about teaching her son to shoot. A community Facebook page listed under Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense was filled with posts advocating for gun rights, including a quote that said "My right to protect my child with my gun trumps your fear of my gun." The Associated Press was unable to verify whether the page, which has since been taken down, belonged to Gilt.
If Gilt complies with the agreement, prosecutors said the charge of unsafe storage of a firearm will be dismissed.
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Editorial: No guilt for Jamie Lynn Gilt?
State Attorney R.J. Larizza’s office announced Friday that a deferred prosecution deal was penned for a 31-year-old Jacksonville mom who made global headlines last month when she was shot by her 4-year-old son.
Jaime Lynn Gilt was hospitalized March 8 when a Putnam County Sheriff’s deputy noticed her pickup truck parked partially in the travel lane around 3 p.m. and the driver motioning for help.
He found her shot in back behind the wheel. The only other occupant in the car was the 4-year-old. The bullet had entered the rear of the driver’s side seat, hit her in the lower back and exited out her abdomen. The gun was recovered in the floorboard of the truck.
Subsequently, deputies determined that Gilt, a gun rights activist, had been shot by her son.
The warrant affidavit said in part: “Jamie Gilt did leave a loaded firearm in a vehicle where she knew or reasonably should have known that a minor child could gain access to the firearm without said firearm being secured in a locked box or container secured with a trigger lock, resulting in a minor child gaining access to the firearm contrary to Florida Statute 790.194.”
The Department of Children and Families was brought into the case. Gilt was charged with a second-degree misdemeanor. What the detectives were able to piece together was that Gilt had placed a .45 caliber handgun under her seat. The gun apparently slid into the floor of the backseat, then the child slipped out of his restraints, picked it up and fired it. The incident was reported as an accident, but it was no accident that the boy knew how to fire the weapon. Gilt has posted on her Facebook page, “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense” that “Even my 4-year-old gets jacked up to target shoot with the .22.” Of course, there’s no law that says a mom can’t teach a her baby to handle a firearm.
The mother was found by our 7th Judicial Circuit State Attorney’s office to be “licensed and lawfully permitted to carry the firearm that slid from the front floorboard of her vehicle and into the hands of the toddler.”
The Record is a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights. But this case pushes the boundaries, from where we sit. Gun rights activists, more than anyone, ought to know how and when to safely store or stow a weapon. That boy could have just as easily pointed the gun in opposite direction. Or — especially given the ballistically traumatic capability of a .45-caliber weapon — the child might have grown up without a mother. Or, perhaps worse yet, knowing that he’d been responsible for her death.
What was Jamie Gilt’s deal? She’ll have to take a gun safety course, provide proof of safe storage of firearms at her home and give 10 public speeches relating to the incident.
The final requirement is, however, curious. No. It’s absurd. The mother will also be required to “install a mounted holster in her vehicle,” according to the executed agreement.
Let’s hope the toddler hasn’t been tutored in quick draw as well.
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Pro-gun mom STOLE five pairs of shorts worth $455 and tried to sneak them out of a Florida store in her child's stroller
By Darren Boyle for MailOnline and Laura Collins In Palatka, Florida For Dailymail.com
March 11, 2016
A Florida mom shot by her four-year old son while driving in Florida stole almost $500 worth of shorts using her baby's stroller as cover.
Jamie Gilt, 30, was arrested by Jacksonville Sheriff's Department on April 4, 2013 after she was detained by security guards at Dillard's department store in the town.
The prominent gun rights activist was spotted stuffing children's clothes into her purse and hiding the bag in the child's stroller.
She was arrested by Jacksonville Sheriff's Department and charged with a felony count Grand Theft Retail.
Officers released her on a bond of $2,503 pending a court hearing.
According to her arrest report: 'The suspect entered the Juniors department of Dillard, selected several clothing items and concealed them in the purse she was carrying.
'The suspect then placed her purse in the stroller she was pushing and then attempted to exit the store without paying in an attempt to appropriate the property as her own.
'The suspect was detained by loss protection personnel and the property, totaling $455 was recovered.
'The suspect was arrested on the above charge and transported to the Duval County Jail.'
According to official records Gilt stole five pairs of shorts worth $89 each from the store.
Gilt, who attended the Grace Christian Academy has a tattoo of two horseshoes with a rose on her left ankle as well as a scar on her forehead.
At the time of the theft, according to records held by Duval County Court, Gilt was unemployed and was granted a public defender attorney.
In November 2013, court records show Gilt completed a 'Felony pre-trial intervention program'.
Michael Monroe Kirkland, Assistant State Attorney wrote to the clerk of the circuit court in Duval County announcing that the state was dropping charges against Gilt after she successfully completed the course.
Gilt is currently recovering in hospital after her son picked up her loaded .45 semi-automatic handgun which was lying in the back seat of her truck and opened fire.
One round passed through the seat, entering Gilt's body through her back before the powerful bullet exited through her stomach.
Earlier Gilt's mother Jane Bramble, 71 said: 'It was just a freakish accident, Jamie’s done nothing wrong.
‘People are trying to make it into something it’s not, we are not criminals, we are the victims here.
Speaking to Daily Mail Online from the family's home in Palatka, Florida, Mrs Bramble claimed her daughter was facing 'a long road to recovery.'
She said her grandson, who pulled the trigger, was 'watching cartoons'.
Mrs Bramble continued: ‘She grew up with guns and I grew up with guns. This is the country – if you see something come onto your property what are you going to do? Shoot it. If I see a rattlesnake come up here I’ll blow it to bits. What would you do?
‘If they try to take our guns from us they’ll just go into the hands of criminals. People own guns here, it’s our way of life – hunting and shooting. But I’d still own a gun if I lived in New York City.’
Mrs Bramble admitted that the whole family had been shocked and troubled by the shooting that happened on Tuesday morning.
Fighting back emotion she said: ‘Of course I’m upset. Just think what could have happened.’
But she insisted that her daughter – who may yet face criminal charges of negligence for allowing her gun to fall into her son’s hands – had no crime to answer to.
She said: ‘The Sheriff hasn’t spoken to her as far as I know. Why would he? And they’ve not spoken to him either,’ she added pointing at her blonde-haired grandson.
As she spoke he held a plastic T-Rex toy up like a gun, taking aim and rapidly pulling the trigger to make it snap.
Mrs Bramble revealed that she did not know when her daughter would be released from the University of Florida Hospital in Gainesville where she was rushed following the incident.
She explained: ‘Mark [the boy’s father] has been at her bedside all the time since it happened and she’s in the best care but they won’t say when she’ll get out.
‘It will be a long road to recovery and this is something that we’re all united in.’
Mrs Bramble went onto read a prepared statement in which the family expressed thanks for all the prayers and support they have received.
She said: ‘I’ve had phone calls from people I haven’t heard from in years. People are being supportive; they know this is our way of life.
‘Of course you have to be respectful of guns. You can’t just get angry and pull your gun on somebody but this was just an accident and we just want to get over it as a family.'
Gilt hosted the Facebook page Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense, which has since been removed from the internet since the shooting.
Putnam County Sheriff's investigators are still trying to determine how the boy got his hands on the gun they say he used to shoot his mother.
Gilt owns the .45-caliber gun the boy fired on Tuesday afternoon, Putnam County Sheriff's Office spokesman Joseph Wells said.
Wells said a deputy saw her behaving frantically inside the truck, which was stopped partially in the road. The deputy then saw she'd been shot in the back and the bullet had exited from her stomach area, Wells said.
Gilt told deputies her son had accidentally shot her, according to Wells. She was taken to a hospital and was in stable condition, but investigators had not been able to interview her, Wells said.
The boy, who wasn't injured, is with relatives. The Florida Department of Children and Families also is investigating.
Before it was removed from public view, the 'Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense' Facebook page featured many posts from other pages supporting gun ownership and vilifying proposals for more gun control.
The short description of the page on Facebook said it was a place 'to connect people that share a common goal. That goal is to protect and expand our 2nd Amendment rights'.
After the news broke about Gilt's shooting, the posts appeared to be inundated with mocking comments from other Facebook users.
In comments posted March 7 to one post on the page, a user named Jamie Gilt wrote: 'I can promise though, if someone breaks into my house, or tries to harm me or my family pretty anywhere, they will be shot and most likely killed. It's my right to protect my life.'
The same user later replied to another comment about teaching children to shoot: 'All of ours know how to shoot too. Even my 4 year old gets jacked up to target shoot with the .22.'
Investigators are trying to determine whether to bring charges against Gilt.
Under Florida law, it is a misdemeanor for someone to store or leave a loaded gun where a child has access to it.
'They must keep firearms secured and locked,' Wells said.
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Lmfao what does this have to do with anything on the politics board?
For fucks sake dude
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Lmfao what does this have to do with anything on the politics board?
For fucks sake dude
do you know how many threads about guns you have started on this board ?
do a quick search and then tell us why all your threads belong here but this one doesn't
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‘My sister shot herself’: 5-year-old dies playing with father’s unsecured handgun
By Peter Holley
They had a day of family fun ahead of them.
Eric Moore, a father of three from LaPlace, La., was planning to take his kids out to eat before heading to the movie “Angry Birds.”
Before they left the house, police said, Moore jumped in the shower.
“The father said he was taking a shower when he heard a gunshot,” Lt. Greg Baker of the St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office told NBC affiliate WDSU. “He got out of the shower, and that’s when he discovered that his daughter had accidentally shot herself.”
Five-year-old Haley Moore had been playing with her father’s handgun, police said. Moore told investigators that he had left his .45-caliber gun out on a table in the home, the station reported.
Baker told the station that the bullet entered Haley’s right chest and exited under her left arm.
Joy Ursin, a next-door neighbor, described a harrowing scene outside the Moore home about 9:30 a.m. Saturday.
“The officer pulled up,” Ursin told WDSU. “The kids ran out of the house screaming.”
Ursin told the station that she took the children into her home and tried to comfort them while paramedics performed CPR on their sibling next door. As the incident unfolded, police tried to comfort the father, according to the Times-Picayune.
“The oldest kid, she repeatedly said, ‘My sister shot herself. My sister shot herself. I don’t know if she’s going to be OK,’” Ursin told WDSU.
Moore was rushed to a hospital, where she died from her injuries, according to a statement posted on Facebook by the sheriff’s office.
The statement confirmed that, according to detectives, the handgun had not been secured at the time.
“The first thing that goes through your mind is that it’s a child and you want to do everything you can to help that child get through this ordeal,” Baker told CBS affiliate WWL.
Ursin told WDSU that the children’s parents are divorced and that they stay with their father every other weekend. She told the Times-Picayune that Moore is a responsible parent who took gun safety seriously. She told WDSU that Moore’s children were “aware” of their father’s guns but that anytime they were in his home, he put the firearms away.
She added that Haley was a “firecracker” who loved her father.
“All I can say is it’s an unfortunate thing because Eric is a disabled military veteran and one thing is he has his guns, but he’s not ignorant to the fact of the danger, especially when his kids are around,” Ursin told the Times-Picayune.
“He would always stress how he had to secure [them], what he had to go through when the kids came,” she added. “He made sure of that because he would get his kids every other weekend.”
So far in 2016, at least 94 children younger than 18 have picked up a firearm and accidentally shot themselves or someone else, according to data from Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun-control group funded by former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg. The advocacy group, which compiles shooting data using news reports, found that 278 such shootings occurred in 2015.
In March, a Florida mother who bragged on Facebook that her 4-year-old son “gets jacked up to target shoot” was wounded when the child got his hands on a gun in the back seat of her vehicle and shot her in the back.
During one week in April, at least four children shot themselves with guns they found. A fifth child that week fatally shot his mother with a gun found in her car.
Moore’s death is still under investigation, police said. Baker told WDSU that investigators want to know what caused bruising on the skin between Haley’s thumb and finger. He noted that the discoloration could’ve been the result of the child’s skin being pinched by the slide of the weapon after it was fired.
“Safety, everything is safety,” Baker told the station. “If you’re the owner of a weapon, buy a safe box, a gun safe. That’s the way it is. Teach your kids. Teach your family about it.”
Ursin said Haley’s father was distraught.
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Post all the sad little pics you want...
But if you try to take people's guns, your fa66ot ass will deservedly get killed, thus saving AIDS the trouble.
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http://abc13.com/news/homeowner-in-underwear-holds-intruder-at-gunpoint/1352186/
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A homeowner in the Rice Military area held a man at gunpoint just after midnight Monday after he caught the man going through his mail.
27-year-old Robert Shane Teague was arrested for trespassing. Homeowner Jet George held Teague at gunpoint for several minutes until police arrived.
"When we heard the doorbell ring, we didn't know what it was," George said, "Just thought it was a dead battery in the wireless doorbell."
Teague appears to have bumped into the doorbell on the gate while trying to get inside.
"Then I heard something hitting the garage," George said.
Teague hit the garage with his fists, and then he opened the mailbox next to the garage and rifled through George's mail.
George then ran outside wearing only his underwear and held Teague at gunpoint. Home security cameras captured the incident on video:
"Freeze right there, get on the ground," George said in the video.
Teague carried a beer bottle in his hand throughout the incident.
"His eyes wouldn't dilate," George said, "He was on drugs. He thought he was an alien, that's what he told police."
George was concerned Teague would try to steal something from his home.
"My reaction was to come out here and make sure nothing else was going to happen, to make sure," George said, "You're not gonna do any type of theft from me after you've already been in my mailbox."
Teague has two previous convictions on drug charges.
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Orlando Nightclub Shooting Kills 50; Gunman Had Praised ISIS
By LIZETTE ALVAREZ and RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
ORLANDO, Fla. — A man who called 911 to proclaim allegiance to the Islamic State terrorist group, and who had been investigated in the past for possible terrorist ties, stormed a gay nightclub here Sunday morning, wielding an assault rifle and a pistol, and carried out the worst mass shooting in United States history, leaving 50 people dead and 53 wounded.
The attacker, identified by law enforcement officials as Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old who was born in New York, turned what had been a celebratory night of dancing to salsa and merengue music at the crowded Pulse nightclub into a panicked scene of unimaginable slaughter, the floors slicked with blood, the dead and the injured piled atop one another. Terrified people poured onto the darkened streets of the surrounding neighborhood, some carried wounded victims to safety, and police vehicles were pressed into service as makeshift ambulances to rush people to hospitals.
Joel Figueroa and his friends “were dancing by the hip-hop area when I heard shots, bam, bam, bam,” he said, adding, “Everybody was screaming and running toward the front door.”
Pulse, which calls itself “Orlando’s Latin Hotspot,” was holding its weekly “Upscale Latin Saturdays” party. The shooting began around 2 a.m., and some patrons thought at first that the booming reports they heard were firecrackers or part of the loud, thumping dance music.
Some people who were trapped inside hid where they could, calling 911 or posting messages to social media, pleading for help. The club posted a stark message on its Facebook page: “Everyone get out of pulse and keep running.”
Hundreds of people gathered in the glare of flashing red lights on the fringes of the law enforcement cordon around the nightclub, and later at area hospitals, hoping desperately for some word on the fates of their relatives and friends.
More than 12 hours after the attack, anguished relatives paced between Orlando Regional Medical Center and a nearby hotel as they waited for word. They were told that so many were gunned down that victims would be tagged as anonymous until the hospital was able to identify them.
“We are here suffering, knowing nothing,” said Baron Serrano, whose brother, Juan Rivera, 36, had been celebrating a friend’s birthday with his husband and was now unaccounted for. “I cannot understand why they can’t tell me anything because my brother is a very well-known person here in Orlando. He is a hairstylist, and everybody knows him.”
A tally of victims whose relatives had been notified began slowly building on a city website; by 3:30 a.m. on Monday, it had 18 names. Among them was Juan Ramon Guerrero, a 22-year-old man of Dominican descent who had gone to the club with his boyfriend, Christopher Leinonen, who goes by the name Drew, because they wanted to listen to salsa. A friend, Brandon Wolf, watched people carry Mr. Guerrero outside, his body riddled with gunshot wounds.
But no one knew what had become of Mr. Leinonen. His mother, Christine, anxious because of health problems, had woken at 3 a.m. to news of the shooting, and learned from Mr. Wolf that her son had been inside.
A three-hour standoff followed the initial assault, with people inside effectively held hostage until around 5 a.m., when law enforcement officials led by a SWAT team raided the club, using an armored vehicle and explosives designed to disorient and distract. Over a dozen police officers and sheriff’s deputies engaged in a shootout with Mr. Mateen, leaving him dead and an officer wounded, his life saved by a Kevlar helmet that deflected a bullet.
At least 30 people inside were rescued, and even the hardened police veterans who took the building and combed through it, aiding the living and identifying the dead, were shaken by what they saw, said John Mina, the Orlando police chief. “Just to look into the eyes of our officers told the whole story,” he said.
It was the worst act of terrorism on American soil since Sept. 11, 2001, and the deadliest attack on a gay target in the nation’s history, though officials said it was not clear whether some victims had been accidentally shot by law enforcement officers.
The toll of 50 dead is larger than the number of murders in Orlando over the previous three years. Of an estimated 320 people in the club, nearly one-third were shot. The casualties far exceeded those in the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech, where 32 people were killed, and the 2012 shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., where 26 people died.
“In the face of hate and violence, we will love one another,” President Obama said in a special address from the White House. “We will not give in to fear or turn against each other. Instead, we will stand united as Americans to protect our people and defend our nation, and to take action against those who threaten us.”
As he had done after several previous mass shootings, the president said the shooting demonstrated the need for what he called “common-sense” gun measures.
“This massacre is therefore a further reminder of how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a weapon that lets them shoot people in a school or a house of worship or a movie theater or a nightclub,” Mr. Obama said. “We have to decide if that’s the kind of country we want to be. To actively do nothing is a decision as well.”
The shooting quickly made its way into the presidential campaign. Donald J. Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, who has accused Mr. Obama of weakness on radical Islam and has called for barring Muslim immigrants, suggested on Twitter that the president should resign.
“Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism,” he wrote. “I don’t want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!”
Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, released a statement saying: “We need to redouble our efforts to defend our country from threats at home and abroad. That means defeating international terror groups, working with allies and partners to go after them wherever they are, countering their attempts to recruit people here and everywhere, and hardening our defenses at home.”
Fears of violence led to heightened security at lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender events and gathering places around the country. Law enforcement officials in Santa Monica, Calif., confirmed the arrest on Sunday of a heavily armed man who said he was in the area for West Hollywood’s gay pride parade. The authorities, however, said they did not know of any connection between the California arrest and the Orlando shooting.
The F.B.I. investigated Mr. Mateen in 2013 when he made comments to co-workers suggesting he had terrorist ties, and again the next year, for possible connections to Moner Mohammad Abusalha, an American who became a suicide bomber in Syria, said Ronald Hopper, an assistant agent in charge of the bureau’s Tampa Division. But each time, the F.B.I. found no solid evidence that Mr. Mateen had any real connection to terrorism or had broken any laws. Still, he is believed to be on at least one watch list.
Mr. Mateen, who lived in Fort Pierce, Fla., was able to continue working as a security guard with the security firm G4S, where he had worked since 2007, and he was able to buy guns. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said Mr. Mateen had legally bought a long gun and a pistol in the past week or two, though it was not clear whether those were the weapons used in the assault, which officials described as a handgun and an AR-15 type of assault rifle.
A former co-worker, Daniel Gilroy, said Mr. Mateen had talked often about killing people and had voiced hatred of gays, blacks, women and Jews.
Around the time of the massacre, Mr. Mateen called 911 and declared his allegiance to the Islamic State, the brutal group that has taken over parts of Syria, Iraq and Libya, Agent Hopper said. Other law enforcement officials said he called after beginning his assault.
Hours later, the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, claimed responsibility in a statement released over an encrypted phone app used by the group. It stated that the attack “was carried out by an Islamic State fighter,” according to a transcript provided by the SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks jihadist propaganda.
But officials cautioned that even if Mr. Mateen, who court records show was briefly married and then divorced, was inspired by the group, there was no indication that it had trained or instructed him, or had any direct connection with him. Some other terrorist attackers have been “self-radicalized,” including the pair who killed 14 people in December in San Bernardino, Calif., who also proclaimed allegiance to the Islamic State, but apparently had no contact with the group.
The Islamic State has encouraged “lone wolf” attacks in the West, a point reinforced recently by a group spokesman, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, in his annual speech just before the holy month of Ramadan. In past years, the Islamic State and Al Qaeda ramped up attacks during Ramadan.
American Muslim groups condemned the shooting. “The Muslim community joins our fellow Americans in repudiating anyone or any group that would claim to justify or excuse such an appalling act of violence,” said Rasha Mubarak, the Orlando regional coordinator of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
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I'm in favor of letting AIDS run its course, but at the same time this ain't exactly 9/11, where decent people died.
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I'm in favor of letting AIDS run its course, but at the same time this ain't exactly 9/11, where decent people died.
Shitty trolling, it's sad that getbig has come to this
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I'm in favor of letting AIDS run its course, but at the same time this ain't exactly 9/11, where decent people died.
its always people with low post counts who say stuff like this on here
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Clermont Co. gun shop owner killed in accidental shooting
by Patrick Brennan and Cameron Knight
The owner of a Monroe Township gun shop was fatally shot Saturday afternoon when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Clermont County Sheriff's Office said.
James Baker, 64, was shot in the neck and pronounced dead just before 1 p.m. at his KayJay Gun Shop at 3023 Lindale-Mt. Holly Road, the sheriff's office said in a news release. He was struck by a bullet that was fired by a class participant while practicing weapon malfunction drills.
The sheriff's office reported about 10 people were taking the class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting.
The student who discharged the handgun has not been identified.
In the hours following the fatal incident, nearly a dozen people gathered in gravel lot in front of the business sharing hugs and tears.
Anita Fritz said she'd known Baker since 1999. She was holding a yard sale in the front yard of her father's home across the street of the gun shop when police and an ambulance arrived.
Fritz described Baker as the best neighbor you could ever have.
"He was a friend to everybody," she said. "If it snowed, he'd get everybody's driveway."
When Fritz's father recently passed away, she said Baker offered to do anything she needed. She said the same ambulance that had come for her father returned to try to save Baker.
She recalled that Baker worked in law enforcement in the 1970s and was a friend to local police and deputies.
"Cops were always coming in and out, and he told me, 'Don't worry, I'm not in trouble,'" she said. "They came and looked at his guns, get their guns fixed and cleaned and get their ammo."
KayJay Gun Shop could not be reached for comment.
An American flag flew outside the brown pole building occupied by the business. A white sign attached to a fence advertised the business to those traveling the two-lane road in rural Clermont County less than two miles southwest of East Fork State Park.
KayJay Gun Shop's website advertises concealed carry permit classes along with tactical rifle and defensive pistol classes. During this summer, concealed carry permit classes were scheduled to take place once a month.
The business holds a Type 07 and Type 06 federal firearms license allowing it to manufacture both firearms and ammunition. It also holds a Class 72 Special Occupation Taxpayer license, which is needed to manufacture firearms regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 that placed tighter restrictions on fully-automatic weapons and other categories of firearms.
The Clermont County Sheriff's Office is continuing to investigate the shooting.
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Clermont Co. gun shop owner killed in accidental shooting
by Patrick Brennan and Cameron Knight
The owner of a Monroe Township gun shop was fatally shot Saturday afternoon when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Clermont County Sheriff's Office said.
James Baker, 64, was shot in the neck and pronounced dead just before 1 p.m. at his KayJay Gun Shop at 3023 Lindale-Mt. Holly Road, the sheriff's office said in a news release. He was struck by a bullet that was fired by a class participant while practicing weapon malfunction drills.
The sheriff's office reported about 10 people were taking the class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting.
The student who discharged the handgun has not been identified.
In the hours following the fatal incident, nearly a dozen people gathered in gravel lot in front of the business sharing hugs and tears.
Anita Fritz said she'd known Baker since 1999. She was holding a yard sale in the front yard of her father's home across the street of the gun shop when police and an ambulance arrived.
Fritz described Baker as the best neighbor you could ever have.
"He was a friend to everybody," she said. "If it snowed, he'd get everybody's driveway."
When Fritz's father recently passed away, she said Baker offered to do anything she needed. She said the same ambulance that had come for her father returned to try to save Baker.
She recalled that Baker worked in law enforcement in the 1970s and was a friend to local police and deputies.
"Cops were always coming in and out, and he told me, 'Don't worry, I'm not in trouble,'" she said. "They came and looked at his guns, get their guns fixed and cleaned and get their ammo."
KayJay Gun Shop could not be reached for comment.
An American flag flew outside the brown pole building occupied by the business. A white sign attached to a fence advertised the business to those traveling the two-lane road in rural Clermont County less than two miles southwest of East Fork State Park.
KayJay Gun Shop's website advertises concealed carry permit classes along with tactical rifle and defensive pistol classes. During this summer, concealed carry permit classes were scheduled to take place once a month.
The business holds a Type 07 and Type 06 federal firearms license allowing it to manufacture both firearms and ammunition. It also holds a Class 72 Special Occupation Taxpayer license, which is needed to manufacture firearms regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 that placed tighter restrictions on fully-automatic weapons and other categories of firearms.
The Clermont County Sheriff's Office is continuing to investigate the shooting.
sad, of course...
but keep your fooking hands off my guns, qu33r bait
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Funny - you never post about inner city violence shooting like the 11 dead in Chicago this weekend.
Clermont Co. gun shop owner killed in accidental shooting
by Patrick Brennan and Cameron Knight
The owner of a Monroe Township gun shop was fatally shot Saturday afternoon when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Clermont County Sheriff's Office said.
James Baker, 64, was shot in the neck and pronounced dead just before 1 p.m. at his KayJay Gun Shop at 3023 Lindale-Mt. Holly Road, the sheriff's office said in a news release. He was struck by a bullet that was fired by a class participant while practicing weapon malfunction drills.
The sheriff's office reported about 10 people were taking the class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting.
The student who discharged the handgun has not been identified.
In the hours following the fatal incident, nearly a dozen people gathered in gravel lot in front of the business sharing hugs and tears.
Anita Fritz said she'd known Baker since 1999. She was holding a yard sale in the front yard of her father's home across the street of the gun shop when police and an ambulance arrived.
Fritz described Baker as the best neighbor you could ever have.
"He was a friend to everybody," she said. "If it snowed, he'd get everybody's driveway."
When Fritz's father recently passed away, she said Baker offered to do anything she needed. She said the same ambulance that had come for her father returned to try to save Baker.
She recalled that Baker worked in law enforcement in the 1970s and was a friend to local police and deputies.
"Cops were always coming in and out, and he told me, 'Don't worry, I'm not in trouble,'" she said. "They came and looked at his guns, get their guns fixed and cleaned and get their ammo."
KayJay Gun Shop could not be reached for comment.
An American flag flew outside the brown pole building occupied by the business. A white sign attached to a fence advertised the business to those traveling the two-lane road in rural Clermont County less than two miles southwest of East Fork State Park.
KayJay Gun Shop's website advertises concealed carry permit classes along with tactical rifle and defensive pistol classes. During this summer, concealed carry permit classes were scheduled to take place once a month.
The business holds a Type 07 and Type 06 federal firearms license allowing it to manufacture both firearms and ammunition. It also holds a Class 72 Special Occupation Taxpayer license, which is needed to manufacture firearms regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 that placed tighter restrictions on fully-automatic weapons and other categories of firearms.
The Clermont County Sheriff's Office is continuing to investigate the shooting.
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Funny - you never post about inner city violence shooting like the 11 dead in Chicago this weekend.
another reason for gun control....and I consider these thugs to be terrorists as well...its just that they usually kill people one or two at a time..by the end of he year it basically amounts to the same amount of peole as the Orlando shooting
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another reason for gun control....and I consider these thugs to be terrorists as well...its just that they usually kill people one or two at a time..by the end of he year it basically amounts to the same amount of peole as the Orlando shooting
End of the year? More like end of the welfare line.
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Father accidentally shoots teenage son at Florida gun range
The Associated Press
SARASOTA, Fla. (AP) — Authorities say a 14-year-old boy was accidentally shot and killed by his father at a Florida gun range.
William Brumby was firing his weapon at the High Noon Gun Range in Sarasota on Sunday when a spent shell casing deflected off a nearby wall and landed inside the back of his shirt.
A statement from the Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office says Brumby tried to remove the shell with his right hand, which was holding the gun and accidentally fired the gun at his son, who was standing directly behind him.
Stephen J. Brumby, later died at a hospital. The father’s two other children were with him but were not injured.
Police say they are continuing their investigation after reviewing a video of the shooting and talking to witnesses. No charges have been filed against Brumby.
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Father accidentally shoots teenage son at Florida gun range
The Associated Press
SARASOTA, Fla. (AP) — Authorities say a 14-year-old boy was accidentally shot and killed by his father at a Florida gun range.
William Brumby was firing his weapon at the High Noon Gun Range in Sarasota on Sunday when a spent shell casing deflected off a nearby wall and landed inside the back of his shirt.
A statement from the Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office says Brumby tried to remove the shell with his right hand, which was holding the gun and accidentally fired the gun at his son, who was standing directly behind him.
Stephen J. Brumby, later died at a hospital. The father’s two other children were with him but were not injured.
Police say they are continuing their investigation after reviewing a video of the shooting and talking to witnesses. No charges have been filed against Brumby.
Why not post on the DOZENS of dead thugs and criminal ghetto trash in Chicago this past weekend vs one white kid?
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Father accidentally shoots teenage son at Florida gun range
The Associated Press
SARASOTA, Fla. (AP) — Authorities say a 14-year-old boy was accidentally shot and killed by his father at a Florida gun range.
William Brumby was firing his weapon at the High Noon Gun Range in Sarasota on Sunday when a spent shell casing deflected off a nearby wall and landed inside the back of his shirt.
A statement from the Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office says Brumby tried to remove the shell with his right hand, which was holding the gun and accidentally fired the gun at his son, who was standing directly behind him.
Stephen J. Brumby, later died at a hospital. The father’s two other children were with him but were not injured.
Police say they are continuing their investigation after reviewing a video of the shooting and talking to witnesses. No charges have been filed against Brumby.
Black Lives Dont Matter
http://bb4sp.com/32-killed-chicago-july-4th-weekend
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Why not post on the DOZENS of dead thugs and criminal ghetto trash in Chicago this past weekend vs one white kid?
Doesn't fit "his" narrative.
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Doesn't fit "his" narrative.
No kidding - bunch of little pussies melting down when a white kid dies but silent when DOZENS of blacks die
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Micah Johnson, Gunman in Dallas, Honed Military Skills to a Deadly Conclusion
By RICHARD FAUSSET, MANNY FERNANDEZ and ALAN BLINDER
GARLAND, Tex. — There was a time when he was known as a well-mannered young man — a regular at his church and a pleasant presence on a tree-lined, suburban, multicultural street in a neighborhood called Camelot. He grew up to serve his country in Afghanistan.
But on Thursday night, 25-year-old Micah Johnson, an African-American, drove his car to a rally against police violence and began killing officers in downtown Dallas, hoping to single out the white ones. In the process, he also managed to bring his war back home, killing at least one fellow military veteran and heightening fears that the nation he had been deployed to protect overseas was now failing to address its growing racial divide at home.
The Dallas police remained on edge Saturday. In the late afternoon, officers drew their weapons and cleared an area near the back of their headquarters after a report of a suspicious person in a department parking garage. The agency later said that no one had been found.
In the past several days, as demonstrators jammed the streets in a number of American cities, protesting police violence, new details emerged about Mr. Johnson’s life. They revealed a young man who had returned in disgrace from his stint abroad in the Army Reserve, but then continued a training regimen of his own devising, conducting military-style exercises in his backyard and reportedly joining a gym that offered martial arts and weapons classes.
A Dallas County official also revealed Saturday that Mr. Johnson — who killed five officers and wounded seven others, as well as two civilians, before the police killed him with a robot-delivered explosive device — had kept an extensive journal and described a method of attack in which a gunman fired on a target and then quickly moved to another location to confuse an enemy.
Although it did not seem to be a precise plan for Mr. Johnson’s ambush, it was strikingly similar to the tactics he used.
“It’s talking not only about how to kill but how to keep from being killed,” said Clay Jenkins, Dallas County’s chief executive and director of homeland security and emergency management, who said he had not read the original journal but had reviewed summaries of it. “It shows that he’s well prepared.”
Mr. Johnson showed an affinity for radical black-power organizations on his Facebook page. Organizers of the Black Lives Matter network and others have denounced Mr. Johnson’s shooting spree. In a news conference on Saturday in Warsaw, President Obama said it was “very hard to untangle the motives” behind the shooting.
“As we’ve seen in a whole range of incidents with mass shooters, they are, by definition, troubled,” Mr. Obama said. “By definition, if you shoot people who pose no threat to you — strangers — you have a troubled mind. What triggers that, what feeds it, what sets it off, I’ll leave that to psychologists and people who study these kinds of incidents.”
On Saturday, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said in a statement that Mr. Obama had called him to offer condolences. Mr. Abbott said he had thanked the president and reiterated the need for Americans to unite after the shooting.
Tensions remained high, however. In San Antonio, the police were investigating reports late Saturday that gunshots had been fired at their department’s headquarters, Chief William McManus said at a briefing.
Officers said that they heard gunshots hitting the building just before 10 p.m. and that “a number of shell casings” were recovered, Chief McManus said. There were no injuries.
Mr. Johnson spent some of his childhood at the home of his father and stepmother in Garland, about a half-hour drive north of downtown Dallas. Their neighborhood, Camelot, is a collection of one- and two-story ranch-style houses of late-20th-century vintage, and their house is set in the middle of a tree-lined block, where a number of neighboring homes this weekend still displayed American flags from the Fourth of July weekend. The neighbors walking by or working on their lawns were black, white, Hispanic and Asian.
Courtney Williams, 37, an electrician who lives in Forney, just east of Dallas, said he had known Mr. Johnson during his teenage days, when Mr. Johnson would stay with his mother in the Pleasant Grove area of Dallas. The two young men attended the same church, and Mr. Williams recalled Mr. Johnson as a “well-mannered” youth who was active in church events and the typical pursuits of a teenager.
“Video games, the whole nine yards,” he said. Mr. Johnson showed no interest in weapons, Mr. Williams said.
“He was just a quiet kid,” Mr. Williams said. “No attitude, no trouble with school. Just a normal kid.”
Mr. Williams lost touch with Mr. Johnson after the younger man graduated from John Horn High School in Mesquite, Tex., where he had shown some interest in the military, going so far as to participate in the school’s Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps program. He was not, it seemed on Saturday, a standout: Horn’s former J.R.O.T.C. instructor said he had little recollection of Mr. Johnson.
He enlisted in the Army Reserve in 2009 and was assigned to a unit — a component of the 420th Engineer Brigade — near Dallas. More than four years later, the unit deployed to Afghanistan. But before the soldiers left for the Afghan theater, they stood in formation not far from the streets where Mr. Johnson would someday stage a siege.
An officer urged them to take care of their families and cultivate their faith. He also emphasized the importance of adapting on the fly.
“Continue to build the flexibility to adjust to changing and unforeseen situations faster than the enemy can adapt,” the officer said, according to a video of the ceremony. “This is how we will succeed.”
But Mr. Johnson did not succeed. While overseas, a female soldier in Mr. Johnson’s unit accused him of sexual harassment. When the Army considered kicking him out, he waived his right to a hearing in exchange for a lesser charge.
Soon he was back in Texas, living with his mother. Ron Price, 49, a former president of the Dallas school board, lives in Mesquite, about four blocks away. He used to see Mr. Johnson in the neighborhood and exchange hellos. He said he had noticed nothing really remarkable about him.
“He was just another guy at the gas station,” he said.
But Mr. Jenkins said a neighbor had seen Mr. Johnson doing militarylike exercises in his backyard in Mesquite in the last couple of weeks.
Mr. Johnson’s preparations seemingly extended to visits to a “self-defense and personal protection” gym in the Dallas area.
The gym’s owner, Justin Everman, told The Daily Beast that it counted many police officers among its members, and he sought to distance himself and his business from Mr. Johnson.
“It’s disgusting, what he did,” Mr. Everman told The Daily Beast. “I’m disgusted.”
In addition to reading summaries of the journal, Mr. Jenkins said he had heard descriptions of its contents from other officials.
Some of it was given over to very specific combat and sniper tactics, including details, Mr. Jenkins said, of “what we call ‘shoot and move’ tactics — ways to fire on a target and then move quickly and get into position at another location to inflict more damage on targets without them being able to ascertain where the shots are coming from.” This tactic is used by the military’s special forces.
“When you couple ‘shoot and move’ and other tactics in his writings, his practice in the yard, his interest in weaponry, it seems to me that this was a well-prepared individual,” Mr. Jenkins said.
He added, “It appeared that he was an excellent marksman and was calmly shooting, as opposed to someone who’s just holding a gun up and aiming it and pulling the trigger in the direction of where they think people are.”
Mr. Jenkins said Mr. Johnson had used a semiautomatic SKS rifle and a high-capacity handgun. He drove his vehicle to the demonstration and parked it, Mr. Jenkins said, but was on foot at many points throughout the attack.
Mr. Johnson’s knowledge of “shoot and move” — and the fact that a few of the protesters in the crowd who were not involved in the shooting were armed and carrying rifles — has helped shed light on how a theory of multiple assailants emerged.
In Texas, gun owners can legally and openly carry what are known as long guns, including shotguns and rifles. The carrying of handguns is regulated in Texas and requires a state-issued permit, whether concealed or openly carried, but the carrying of rifles is largely unregulated and requires no permit. The so-called open carrying of rifles has become common at many demonstrations in Texas in recent years.
“When the shooting first happened, you had people in the crowd who were carrying long rifles and dressed in camouflage,” Mr. Jenkins said. “And then the shooting happens, and those people begin to disperse and move quickly, and they have guns and they’re not police officers and there’s a shooting, and so one of the things that people would investigate quickly is did they have anything to do with whatever is happening.”
Mr. Jenkins said that Mr. Johnson did not appear to have advance knowledge of the march route. Parts of the route were determined on the spot without planning, Mr. Jenkins said.
Throughout a sweltering Saturday, a section of downtown Dallas remained a closed-off crime scene as investigators faced a second day of piecing together the details of the attack, an inquiry that had included more than 200 interviews. More than 20 square blocks remained cordoned off.
Two squad cars outside Police Headquarters have become memorials, covered in flowers, balloons, posters and handwritten notes. On Friday evening, before the officers went on heightened alert, person after person slowly and quietly approached the cars to add tributes. A Dallas police sergeant wiped her eyes, and a handful of people gathered in a circle to pray.
Similar moments played out on Saturday. “I miss you already Brother, but you are home with the angels now,” said a note about Officer Brent Thompson. The authors wrote, “You were, are, and always will be our hero.”
As Mayor Mike Rawlings visited Police Headquarters on Saturday, he told reporters: “We’re all human here, and I think that people feel each other’s pain. And that’s what makes it great, that’s what makes you hopeful that we can do this, that we can move from senselessness, absurdity that’s like a Camus novel, to something that has redemption and hope in it. And that’s ultimately what we need to do.”
He stopped to speak with a woman kneeling by one police car and told her, “Pray hard, sister.”
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5 Dead in Shooting at Mall in Washington State, Police Say
By CHRISTOPHER MELE
A shooting at a mall north of Seattle on Friday night left five people dead and the police searching for the gunman, the Washington State Patrol said.
The gunman killed four women in the cosmetics department of a Macy’s store at the shopping center, the Cascade Mall in Burlington, Wash., said a spokesman for the patrol, Sgt. Mark Francis. Another victim, a man who was critically wounded, was brought to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle, and Sergeant Francis said Saturday morning on Twitter that the man had died.
The gunman, who was believed to have been armed with a rifle, left before the police arrived, and the mall was evacuated after the 7:45 p.m. shooting, Sergeant Francis said. He described the suspect as a Hispanic man wearing gray.
The authorities believe there was only one gunman, but it was unclear whether he had help, Sergeant Francis said at about midnight in a briefing outside the mall. He said the gunman had last been seen walking toward Interstate 5.
The F.B.I. said early Saturday that it had “no information to suggest that additional attacks” were planned in Washington State, and that it was coordinating intelligence efforts with the local authorities.
After the shooting, the police converged on the mall and were making a store-by-store sweep 440,000-square-foot mall, looking for survivors, some of whom had locked themselves in dressing rooms and other areas, too frightened to come out, KIRO, a television station in Seattle, reported.
“It becomes more commonplace obviously, these shooting situations in our country, but until you’re one of the ones inside a building like that it is really hard to describe,” Sergeant Francis told reporters.
Eric Mathews, 40, who was meeting his son there, said it was a typical Friday night at the mall in Burlington, about 65 miles north of Seattle. He described it as a “teenage scene kind of thing.” He arrived around 7:45 p.m. when the shooting occurred. Mr. Mathews and his son, Kai, 16, left just before the mall was locked down, he said.
Four of Kai’s friends were stuck inside after the mall was locked down, he said.
Referring to his son, Mr. Mathews said: “Imagine I was late or if he didn’t answer his phone. That stuff is running through my mind.”
Stephanie Bost, an employee at Johnny Carino’s, a restaurant at the mall, said a customer said there had been a shooting about 100 yards away. “We went on lockdown” and shut the doors, she said.
“We saw people being evacuated from the mall and running out to their cars,” she added.
Officials also called off the Burlington-Edison High School football game and evacuated the stadium, which is just north of the mall, the Skagit Valley Herald reported.
Sergeant Francis said survivors inside the mall would be bused to a nearby church.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said on Twitter that it was responding to the scene.