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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Nether Animal on April 02, 2016, 03:49:58 PM
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Let's take dorian out of the equation for a change, and look at second and third place. Most people (to my knowledge) consider this Ray's best, with '96 not too far behind. And Kevin was really on as well.
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Geez huge
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Levrone
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both look better than doz
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Shawn was BEHIND Kevin after the prejudging and only edged him out in the night show.
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i will never understand how shawn ever placed ahead of flex, cormier, or Mr. Levrone in any show
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i will never understand how shawn ever placed ahead of flex, cormier, or Mr. Levrone in any show
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Bodybuilding is the only "sport" where the competitor who sucks the most cocks leading up to the competition actually places better.
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I can see why Shawn won't let this one go. This was the first year a Mr. O ever had a gut. Palumboism should be Yates-ites. The original Palumbo was Dorian.
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i will never understand how shawn ever placed ahead of flex, cormier, or Mr. Levrone in any show
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Because he was better.
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Let's take dorian out of the equation for a change, and look at second and third place. Most people (to my knowledge) consider this Ray's best, with '96 not too far behind. And Kevin was really on as well.
Kevin won the Arnold Classic earlier in 1994. He was getting bigger and bigger too. Shawn was ALWAYS in amazing shape. One of the best for sure.
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Geez huge
Wow, you have both Ronnie Coleman AND Nasser in that 2nd pic also. Both of them tiny tits at that point.
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Geez huge
2nd pic. 2 dead, 5 retired and out of the 5, one's body is broken down, and the other looks like he has not aged since 1994.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607251.0;attach=674904)
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Because he was better.
better at looking smaller and shorter yes, not to mention he only competed once a year which made it easier to peak for the olympia
shawn believed his mouth got him into trouble, the truth is his mouth got him undeserved placings, people that bitch the most always get more than they deserve because that's the only way to shut them up
great bodybuilder and the most overrated bodybuilder of the 90's
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Dexter has surpassed Shawn a long time ago.....
Wasn't that the Olympia Shawn wore a wig?? Haha
If there was a 212 class back in day Shawn would have been mr Olympia for 10 years straight......... 212 Olympia that is ;D
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I can see why Shawn won't let this one go. This was the first year a Mr. O ever had a gut. Palumboism should be Yates-ites. The original Palumbo was Dorian.
I just hope that Shawn doesn't let the decision eat away at him. Mike Mentzer never mentally recovered from the 1980 Mr Olympia.
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I can see why Shawn won't let this one go. This was the first year a Mr. O ever had a gut. Palumboism should be Yates-ites. The original Palumbo was Dorian.
Indeed.
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Leverone far better than that little miserable bitchy black bastard
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Dorian vs Roland at the 94 O
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94
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Nine Fo
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Ray vs Baker 94
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Wasn't that the Olympia Shawn wore a wig?? Haha
was 95
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94
How the fuck are we looking at 1st vs 18th (theoretically last place) here?
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This is last place.... and look at Samir looking several weeks out in that pic above. The fuck...
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This is last place.... and look at Samir looking several weeks out in that pic above. The fuck...
Last place in 94 looks better than most of the top five in the majority of contests today.
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Shawn Ray was flawless that year for him. He should have beaten Dorian on gut alone. That was the beginning of this trend. Dorian is patient 0. Isn't this also the year he tore his bicep. It's a travesty they kept giving him Olympias. This is when conditioning and size started counting more than shape and symmetry. This is where it all began. It should have been Shawn, Kevin, then Dorian.
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Shawn Ray was flawless that year for him. He should have beaten Dorian on gut alone. That was the beginning of this trend. Dorian is patient 0. Isn't this also the year he tore his bicep. It's a travesty they kept giving him Olympias. This is when conditioning and size started counting more than shape and symmetry. This is where it all began. It should have been Shawn, Kevin, then Dorian.
No, you are allowing racism to cloud your otherwise exceptional judgement
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No, you are allowing racism to cloud your otherwise exceptional judgement
No, Dorian should have won in 92, 93,95 and 96. He should have lost in 94 and 97. His race has nothing to do with it.
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No, incorrect,your top 3 appears to be based purely on skin tone and is no coincidence that the lighter the skin the lower the placing,and dorian only tore his bicep on purpose that year to give those lazy Hebrews a chance and they still failed miserably
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No, incorrect,your top 3 appears to be based purely on skin tone and is no coincidence that the lighter the skin the lower the placing,and dorian only tore his bicep on purpose that year to give those lazy Hebrews a chance and they still failed miserably
Shawn Ray is relatively light skinned. I think that he tanned leading up to a show.
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Levrone, who is half Italian, might be darker skinned than Shawn
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No, Dorian should have won in 92, 93,95 and 96. He should have lost in 94 and 97. His race has nothing to do with it.
This is correct, but there is some sort of trend that the reigning Mr Olympia can't be beaten, and then re take his crown. Once defeated, it's like they'll never let them win again.
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Shawn is one of the most overrated pros of all time.
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both look better than doz
This.
Wooshhhhhhh
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Dexter has surpassed Shawn a long time ago.....
Wasn't that the Olympia Shawn wore a wig?? Haha
If there was a 212 class back in day Shawn would have been mr Olympia for 10 years straight......... 212 Olympia that is ;D
You're either a hater or delusional. I say both.
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No, you are allowing racism to cloud your otherwise exceptional judgement
I'm white and I agree with his assessment.
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No, Dorian should have won in 92, 93,95 and 96. He should have lost in 94 and 97. His race has nothing to do with it.
Nasser should have won in 1996 and 1997.
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Levrone, who is half Italian, might be darker skinned than Shawn
Man, look how big Kevin's legs were back then.
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Shawn is one of the most overrated pros of all time.
He's one of the most UNDERRATED pros of all time and does not get the credit or respect he deserves. He had a near flawless physique and always brought his A game to the table.
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Man, look how big Kevin's legs were back then.
More impressively, look at Boyer's arms there and he's in his mid 40s.
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He's one of the most UNDERRATED pros of all time and does not get the credit or respect he deserves. He had a near flawless physique and always brought his A game to the table.
He's overrated , won 2 pro contests in his entire career pretty lackluster. He's good at marketing himself as something he's not , exceptional. Great competitor , awesome physique but facts-are-facts. He did well for himself despite his deficits.
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You're either a hater or delusional. I say both.
Good physique but won 2 shows, he's overrated, seems like u are the one who's delusional and yes if anyone disagrees with u, u are called a "hater" in this generation of nothingness, good logic
Dexter is 10X the bber Shawn ever was and this isn't even up for debate
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both look better than doz
Agree.
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1994 Shawn Ray is better than anything Dexter ever brought to table. Shawn didn't compete as often. Dexter and Shawn is like Ronnie and Flex. People want to look like Flex but Ronnie wins shows.
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He's one of the most UNDERRATED pros of all time and does not get the credit or respect he deserves. He had a near flawless physique and always brought his A game to the table.
Not that he wasn't good, he was to be sure. But, it's easy to be consistent being he spent the bulk of his career essentially competing once a year. His physique looked great, but going by the criteria, he was never the remotest threat to Yates. Ray didn't exactly rack up the pro wins, which is why he's overrated.
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do people realize that the reason that shawn only has 2 pro wins is that he basically only competed in 1 show per year (the Olympia) from 1992 onwards?
guys like Ronnie and levrone compete at all kinds of shows. Olympia, Arnold classic, grand prix shows, night of champions etc.
shawn almost never did. a few exceptions, but mainly he was an Olympia only competitor.
had he chose to go the route of the others on a regular basis its highly likely he would have more than only 2 wins.
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do people realize that the reason that shawn only has 2 pro wins is that he basically only competed in 1 show per year (the Olympia) from 1992 onwards?
guys like Ronnie and levrone compete at all kinds of shows. Olympia, Arnold classic, grand prix shows, night of champions etc.
shawn almost never did. a few exceptions, but mainly he was an Olympia only competitor.
had he chose to go the route of the others on a regular basis its highly likely he would have more than only 2 wins.
Shawn was all marketing like it was mentioned already, his physique is outstanding, no denying that
His concentration was only the O and he knew if he competed more often he can't hold his condition, now winning other shows I don't know, that era was stacked and he wouldn't have gotten pass Nasser, levrone or flex in any shows
Shawn did compete in the 96 Arnold Classic and got 5th place, beaten by flex, levrone, dillet, and Vince Taylor..... So there u go
From a bbing perspective he is overrated
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More impressively, look at Boyer's arms there and he's in his mid 40s.
Kevin's in his early 50's today and his arms as of recent are pretty damn impressive as well.
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seeing the 3 of them training together shows you the illusion created onstage like in ray's case 5'6-5'7 205,kev is just massive next to him in the studio every which way and strong as fuk too damn...his legs were massive as mentioned 92/93 he guest posed with yates and he was 260 smooth but huge ...
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1994 Shawn Ray is better than anything Dexter ever brought to table. Shawn didn't compete as often. Dexter and Shawn is like Ronnie and Flex. People want to look like Flex but Ronnie wins shows.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Remember the rumors back in 2002 or 2003 that Shawn Ray was a long-time drug dealer on the west Coast.... and Milo's Sarcev said that Shawn Ray had breakfast with the FBI/DEA as he ratted people out?
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Remember the rumors back in 2002 or 2003 that Shawn Ray was a long-time drug dealer on the west Coast.... and Milo's Sarcev said that Shawn Ray had breakfast with the FBI/DEA as he ratted people out?
Oh yeahhhh...
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Didn't the DEA crash the '04 Arnold and ask a bunch of people questions? Wonder if that had anything to do with it
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Didn't the DEA crash the '04 Arnold and ask a bunch of people questions? Wonder if that had anything to do with it
Yes, I think so...
...and Ronnie got fired from the Arlington Police Dept in '03 or '04... I think it was over receiving drugs via the US Mail. God, I hope that Shawn wasn't involved with that in anyway. Hopefully it was just rumors.
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I like Dorian but he was really one of the worst mr. Olympias in the history, not to mention he was like 7 times mr. Olympia, he should have only been Mr. Olympia once 1993, same goes for Jay!
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I like Dorian but he was really one of the worst mr. Olympias in the history, not to mention he was like 7 times mr. Olympia, he should have only been Mr. Olympia once 1993, same goes for Jay!
6 times, and I think most would say he earned 95 as well, if you can look past the left arm.
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6 times, and I think most would say he earned 95 as well, if you can look past the left arm.
X2,,I STILL THINK KEV AND SHAWN PUSHED HIM A FEW TIMES AND COULD HAVE GOT THE NODE,BUT YATES DOMINATED HIS MAIN WINS..
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Levrone, who is half Italian, might be darker skinned than Shawn
Boyer with the wig? :D
Shawn - "strength isn't important when challenging your partner"
Kevin - "right"
Translation : Shawn can't hang with Kevin lol
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thats one crazy wig coe is wearing. its so blatantly fake :-\
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Shawn did compete in the 96 Arnold Classic and got 5th place, beaten by flex, levrone, dillet, and Vince Taylor..... So there u go
true but at the 96 Olympia he killed them all and should have arguably beaten dorian that year.
love the vacuum in the double bi. don't see that anymore.
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true but at the 96 Olympia he killed them all and should have arguably beaten dorian that year.
Ummmmmmm NO
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Geez huge
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607251.0;attach=674904;image)
Levrone kills him in this shot.
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seeing the 3 of them training together shows you the illusion created onstage like in ray's case 5'6-5'7 205,kev is just massive next to him in the studio every which way and strong as fuk too damn...his legs were massive as mentioned 92/93 he guest posed with yates and he was 260 smooth but huge ...
I think Ray went up to 215 in competition in his later years. He looked best at 205 like you said.
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Ummmmmmm NO
Oh come on, what a piss poor comparison shot and you know it.
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Oh come on, what a piss poor comparison shot and you know it.
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Boyer with the wig? :D
Shawn - "strength isn't important when challenging your partner"
Kevin - "right"
Translation : Shawn can't hang with Kevin lol
Welll...Shawn and Kevin did train together, and I think Kevin had given Shawn his props And Flex had said that training with Shawn is intense, and got him into shape for the 97 Arnold. Flex wanted to train with Shawn for the 97 Mr. O, and Shawn was like "nope".
And Shawn did go up to 180 pound Dumbbells I believe in one of his vids. He went up to 150s and put them with good form. So, for a 205-218 pound bodybuilder he was pretty strong.
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Enough said
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Welll...Shawn and Kevin did train together, and I think Kevin had given Shawn his props And Flex had said that training with Shawn is intense, and got him into shape for the 97 Arnold. Flex wanted to train with Shawn for the 97 Mr. O, and Shawn was like "nope".
And Shawn did go up to 180 pound Dumbbells I believe in one of his vids. He went up to 150s and put them with good form. So, for a 205-218 pound bodybuilder he was pretty strong.
Shawn was heavier than that in the offseason when he toyed with the big weights. He weighed between 225-240 in the offseason, having gone as high as 250 at one point and that's on a 5'6"-5'7" frame.
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Levrone's height & width gave him the advantage over Shawn. Kevin's bone structure was better. And Levrone had good roundness.
Shawn only beat Levrone when Levrone was off.
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Enough said
Looks great standing by himself or next to a garden gnome
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Looks great standing by himself or next to a garden gnome
Exactly.
Here is Shawn next to a taller/wider Levrone. Levrone's roundness was too much for Shawn.
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Shawn was heavier than that in the offseason when he toyed with the big weights. He weighed between 225-240 in the offseason, having gone as high as 250 at one point and that's on a 5'6"-5'7" frame.
Yep. But, in his Final Countdown vid where he was close to comp shape, when he was training chest, I believe he is using 150s
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true but at the 96 Olympia he killed them all and should have arguably beaten dorian that year.
Not. I was there. Shawn looked invisible next to Yates. That was between Yates and Nasser, but Nasser got waxed in all the rear poses, and it was over.
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Side view of Levrone's roundness & height advantage
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UNREAL...^^^^^^
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PIP Kev's legs
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Side view of Levrone's roundness & height advantage
shawn looking like a chihuahua staring down a doberman
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i have never seen a man look better than this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607251.0;attach=675272;image)
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i have never seen a man look better than this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607251.0;attach=675272;image)
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YOU FORGOT TO WRITE' NO HO'...NEVERMIND...
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Franco vs Kevin
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Shawn Ray looked Great on stage by himself.
I dunno he just seamed to look like such a non dominant man when the others stood next to him.
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i have never seen a man look better than this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607251.0;attach=675272;image)
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Good ol' Earl.
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i have never seen a man look better than this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607251.0;attach=675272;image)
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Heath would have a difficult time defeating this from the front. Kevin would beat him. From the back, a different story. Heath would destroy Kevin. Heath is better conditioned in the ham/glute regions and his bdb is unbeatable except by Coleman and Yates.
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He and Heath have alot of similarities.
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Heath would have a difficult time defeating this from the front. Kevin would beat him. From the back, a different story. Heath would destroy Kevin. Heath is better conditioned in the ham/glute regions and his bdb is unbeatable except by Coleman and Yates.
Levrone's RDB was all delts & arms
98 NOC
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Levrone's RDB was all delts & arms
98 NOC
Phil is on another level. Only Coleman and Yates beat him on this pose. Kai's best ties him.
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true but at the 96 Olympia he killed them all and should have arguably beaten dorian that year.
love the vacuum in the double bi. don't see that anymode.
Nasser's FDB is raping the shit out of Yates and Ray.
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Levrone's RDB was all delts & arms
98 NOC
Now u see why kevin never won the O, his back double bi is terrible
Should have done more deadlifts but forgot he has back problems yet squats 500
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It's weird because Kev's RLS was actually pretty good, especially in '94 or '95 I think? He was almost hanging with Dorian. BDB isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but yeah its a bit shallow
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It's weird because Kev's RLS was actually pretty good, especially in '94 or '95 I think? He was almost hanging with Dorian. BDB isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but yeah its a bit shallow
other than 97-98 when he was huge all over,,when he won jr nationals or nationals 91 there is a video clip of his posing he looks insane he has hair back in a small ponytail and the lighting is awesome i think it accentuated his look a bit but still its great video demayo is in it lot of great heavyweights from that era all in sick shape that era is long gone.
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GetBig always is sporting a big, throbbing Levrone Boner ("Levroner")
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other than 97-98 when he was huge all over,,when he won jr nationals or nationals 91 there is a video clip of his posing he looks insane he has hair back in a small ponytail and the lighting is awesome i think it accentuated his look a bit but still its great video demayo is in it lot of great heavyweights from that era all in sick shape that era is long gone.
Gerard Dente looked good at that show too, I was going to make a thread about him one of these days actually...
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Gerard Dente looked good at that show too, I was going to make a thread about him one of these days actually...
being from jersey i saw closeup alot of guys ,when i was 21 gerard dente was at a local club i went too and he was a couple yrs older maybe and huge and i mean huge,saw jimmy mentis walking down the jersey shore boardwalk again 20 ish if that looked like a building walking the boardwalk..dente was very close to turning pro he won every local and teenage national show and then place very well in usa's,nationals.he does well for himself..
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Ray had the overall symmetry, no flaws (well calves but hardly). But was short.
Kevrone was bigger but with delts overpowering chest. Plus back, though good, not perfect in comparison with the front.
Both guys were well-deserved runners up for years. Liked them more than I liked Flex Wheeler.
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Ray had the overall symmetry, no flaws (well calves but hardly). But was short.
Kevrone was bigger but with delts overpowering chest. Plus back, though good, not perfect in comparison with the front.
Both guys were well-deserved runners up for years. Liked them more than I liked Flex Wheeler.
yeah,,ray had good calves hi but good.kev won more shows .competed often.ray at one point just waited for mro to peak,i think he was not into the dieting/all yr drug thing to a point'this is going by the yates/kev/shawn recent interviews'on what they used during there careers.
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Levrone was one of the few guys that was a threat to possibly beat Flex Wheeler whenever they competed together.
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Kev was almost always in good shape too. He was pretty off @ the '97 Arnold but that's the only poor showing i can think of
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Levrone was off at the 97 ASC. He was in the middle of a divorce at that time.
He looked like he was taking a lot less drugs that the other guys in the line up. He was smaller than normal.
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Levrone was off at the 97 ASC. He was in the middle of a divorce at that time.
He looked like he was taking a lot less drugs that the other guys in the line up. He was smaller than normal.
He looked awful, especially coming off his 96 asc showing
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Dexter has surpassed Shawn a long time ago.....
Wasn't that the Olympia Shawn wore a wig?? Haha
If there was a 212 class back in day Shawn would have been mr Olympia for 10 years straight......... 212 Olympia that is ;D
No. Dexter was a pour man's Shawn Ray.
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Because he was better.
;D ;D ;D
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Ray vs Baker 94
Baker...one of the most underrated bodybuilders of our time.
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Let's take dorian out of the equation for a change, and look at second and third place. Most people (to my knowledge) consider this Ray's best, with '96 not too far behind. And Kevin was really on as well.
Shawn...easily
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No. Dexter was a pour man's Shawn Ray.
Shawn overall was better in terms of physique
But wow factor and bbing competitions Dexter is better