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Title: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: epic_alien on April 05, 2016, 09:15:29 AM
 thanks obbummer.

shouldn't i at least have the choice if i want to enter into a contract with a insurance company?

i take care of myself and am very healthy. I use cash when i go to dentists or eye doc


is the fine to pay for the losers who don't pay anything and get the care for free?
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2016, 09:16:40 AM
thanks obbummer.

shouldn't i at least have the choice if i want to enter into a contract with a insurance company?

i take care of myself and am very healthy. I use cash when i go to dentists or eye doc


is the fine to pay for the losers who don't pay anything and get the care for free?

We you not aware of this?
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Yamcha on April 05, 2016, 09:23:26 AM
We you not aware of this?

x2

were*
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: SF1900 on April 05, 2016, 09:30:47 AM
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Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Nether Animal on April 05, 2016, 09:31:47 AM
were*

Hi Fortress.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: youandme on April 05, 2016, 10:24:23 AM
It's not a "fine" or a "penalty" it's a tax  ::) ::) ::)

Sucks to hear.

Try writing a letter using ebonics to your state legislator, they will likely help you out
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: TheGrinch on April 05, 2016, 10:36:29 AM
Can someone explain to me how its okay that a government forces me to buy something from a private company?
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: epic_alien on April 05, 2016, 10:39:02 AM
not quite sure why i would have to pay a fine or "Tax"  for not entering into a contract with a insurance company that i don't need.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: SupplementGuy on April 05, 2016, 10:47:33 AM
Can someone explain to me how its okay that a government forces me to buy something from a private company?

Because Chief Justice Roberts, instead of ruling the ACA unconstitutional, legislated from the bench and provided the sloppy writers of the act with an out and deemed it a "tax" therefore legitimizing it in the eyes of the law.

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Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: ARMZ on April 05, 2016, 10:52:41 AM
Better vote REP or it will only get worse.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2016, 10:53:51 AM
It's shitty, agreed.

But this is old news.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 05, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
And it's going to be $2,500 next year from what I was told. I went to my tax lady an someone had to pay $695 fine and the cops came and picked his ass up for threating  her.  :-\
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: SF1900 on April 05, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
And it's going to be $2,500 next year from what I was told. I went to my tax lady an someone had to pay $695 fine and the cops came and picked his ass up for threating  her.  :-\

It wont automatically be 2500. It will depend on these factors:

The fee is calculated 2 different ways – as a percentage of your household income, and per person. You’ll pay whichever is higher.

Percentage of income

    2.5% of household income
    Maximum: Total yearly premium for the national average price of a Bronze plan sold through the Marketplace

Per person

    $695 per adult
    $347.50 per child under 18
    Maximum: $2,085
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Wiggs on April 05, 2016, 11:36:09 AM
thanks obbummer.

shouldn't i at least have the choice if i want to enter into a contract with a insurance company?

i take care of myself and am very healthy. I use cash when i go to dentists or eye doc


is the fine to pay for the losers who don't pay anything and get the care for free?

Pay your fines slaves.  You dindu nuffin!
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: calfzilla on April 05, 2016, 12:06:41 PM
x2

were*

X3.

Get insurance free loader. What happens when you get cancer and need $2 million dollars in treatment. The rest of us will have to pick up the bill that's what! Filt!
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: ARMZ on April 05, 2016, 12:35:57 PM
The working man pays either way. We also pay for your gardener that you pay cash to every month. Just look at your horrible insurance premium.. Pays to be a lazy fuck in the US.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: epic_alien on April 05, 2016, 12:57:51 PM
i paid 500 fine last year   1200 dollar fine this year

if i go see a doc which is very rare i pay cash.


the fines i pay are based on my income is what I've read

 so 2 percent of my income is the fine


so just like insurance , some people actually pay some don't at all.  great concept

Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: The True Adonis on April 05, 2016, 01:16:12 PM
Obamacare is a Republican healthcare plan also known as Romney Care.  Republicans LOVE the private health insurance industry as do the Democrats minus Bernie Sanders.

Healthcare in America and how you get it is a complete joke.  Laughing stock of the civilized world.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: calfzilla on April 05, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
i paid 500 fine last year   1200 dollar fine this year

if i go see a doc which is very rare i pay cash.


the fines i pay are based on my income is what I've read

 so 2 percent of my income is the fine


so just like insurance , some people actually pay some don't at all.  great concept



Listen here kid, get insurance so when you need a steroid induced liver transplant the rest of us don't have to pay the bill.  :D
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 05, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
Listen here kid, get insurance so when you need a steroid induced liver transplant the rest of us don't have to pay the bill.  :D

Greg Oden would not have that problem, huh?  :D
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: calfzilla on April 05, 2016, 01:43:42 PM
Greg Oden would not have that problem, huh?  :D

Microfracture surgeries don't come cheap.  :D
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 05, 2016, 02:07:24 PM
Microfracture surgeries don't come cheap.  :D

 :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: epic_alien on April 05, 2016, 02:26:04 PM
Listen here kid, get insurance so when you need a steroid induced liver transplant the rest of us don't have to pay the bill.  :D

rest assured you don't nor will ever pay anything for me.  You pay for those who don't pay their own bills. Don't get me confused with those who pay nothing
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 05, 2016, 03:54:05 PM
Healthcare in America and how you get it is a complete joke.  Laughing stock of the civilized world.

Agree 100%

"1"
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: ARMZ on April 05, 2016, 03:54:25 PM
Obamacare is a Republican healthcare plan also known as Romney Care.  Republicans LOVE the private health insurance industry as do the Democrats minus Bernie Sanders.


Sort of. There was a Republican bill in the Senate that looked a whole lot like Obamacare, but it wasn’t the only GOP bill on Capitol Hill, it never came to a vote and from what we can tell, plenty of conservative Republicans didn’t like it.
politifact.com..
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 05, 2016, 04:18:44 PM
Sort of. There was a Republican bill in the Senate that looked a whole lot like Obamacare, but it wasn’t the only GOP bill on Capitol Hill, it never came to a vote and from what we can tell, plenty of conservative Republicans didn’t like it.
politifact.com..


Politifact is a liberal supporting site.  It exist to expose the "truth" for the left.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 05, 2016, 04:20:12 PM
Wait till people who depend on their tax return find it withheld to pay the fine because they can't afford the monthly payments of an insurance policy that has such a  high deductible that it's practically useless.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 05, 2016, 04:22:35 PM
Easy out of this " fine " is to claim religious exemption.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: SF1900 on April 05, 2016, 04:31:34 PM
Easy out of this " fine " is to claim religious exemption.


You are a member of a health care sharing ministry, which is a tax-exempt organization whose members share a common set of ethical or religious beliefs and have shared medical expenses in accordance with those beliefs continuously since at least December 31, 1999.


Would you have to prove youre a member?
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 05, 2016, 04:34:56 PM


You are a member of a health care sharing ministry, which is a tax-exempt organization whose members share a common set of ethical or religious beliefs and have shared medical expenses in accordance with those beliefs continuously since at least December 31, 1999.


Would you have to prove youre a member?

Nope. I know people who have no insurance and claim religious exemption and have never paid a fine. They file their taxes online and it's an option.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: DanielPaul on April 05, 2016, 04:42:59 PM
Pay your fines slaves.  You dindu nuffin!
funny ass Hebrew lol
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: TheGrinch on April 05, 2016, 11:26:09 PM
Wait till people who depend on their tax return find it withheld to pay the fine because they can't afford the monthly payments of an insurance policy that has such a  high deductible that it's practically useless.

see thats the thing.... the only plans I can afford ARE indeed useless because they have a $5k-10k deductible.....WTF?
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: TheGrinch on April 05, 2016, 11:26:55 PM
Nope. I know people who have no insurance and claim religious exemption and have never paid a fine. They file their taxes online and it's an option.

until they get audited then its going to REALLY hurt
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on April 06, 2016, 12:26:01 AM
Can someone explain to me how its okay that a government forces me to buy something from a private company?

That private company funds the democrat cause and they have to get a return andalso make money on that investment.
Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: epic_alien on April 06, 2016, 08:54:43 AM
Wait till people who depend on their tax return find it withheld to pay the fine because they can't afford the monthly payments of an insurance policy that has such a  high deductible that it's practically useless.

well thats the thing. those who make nothing get tax returns. also those same people  qualify to get the healthcare for a  crazy low rate.  and those of us who make money are fined because we could afford it. so those who make more have to pay for the broke asses who don't.

i ironic thing is i got a policy on myself in january. if I'm going to pay a fine i may as well be paying for something. I have a  250 a month premium and have a 2k deductible.  so just in premiums ill pay 3k for insurance this year that  ill never use. and if i wanted to use it id pay even more because of the whack ass deductible.

Title: Re: 1200 dollar healthcare fine
Post by: jude2 on April 06, 2016, 09:08:59 PM
i paid 500 fine last year   1200 dollar fine this year

if i go see a doc which is very rare i pay cash.


the fines i pay are based on my income is what I've read

 so 2 percent of my income is the fine


so just like insurance , some people actually pay some don't at all.  great concept


How old are you?  Did you try to purchase insurance?