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Title: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on April 05, 2016, 12:07:10 PM
Looks damn great. I'd say this is right up there with his '93 Arnold form. I'd take this look over the '98 Arnold Flex.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
Looks damn great. I'd say this is right up there with his '93 Arnold form. I'd take this look over the '98 Arnold Flex.
probably one of the best usa champions ever that nite...
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on April 05, 2016, 12:10:46 PM
2 more. I believe ND took these originally
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Royalty on April 05, 2016, 12:11:29 PM
Looks damn great. I'd say this is right up there with his '93 Arnold form. I'd take this look over the '98 Arnold Flex.


Fresher muscle in 1992... compared to 98 or 99
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: ARMZ on April 05, 2016, 12:22:10 PM
I don't know what props are, but I have to give Flex some.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Fortress on April 05, 2016, 12:34:25 PM
Guy's a tool, but his physique back then was undeniably otherworldly.

Check out that side-kneeling pose. Awesome.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Wiggs on April 05, 2016, 12:46:15 PM
Best amateur physique of all time in that show. Olympia ready as an amateur. Would place  top 10 in the O today.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Coffeed on April 05, 2016, 01:14:44 PM
Is that a V Cobra?
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: michael arvilla on April 05, 2016, 01:20:51 PM
Pretty much perfection right there ( as good as it Gets/ shows you how fucked up the sport is that that physique never won a Olympia)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 05, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
Looks damn great. I'd say this is right up there with his '93 Arnold form. I'd take this look over the '98 Arnold Flex.

He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)

Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: SilverSpoon on April 05, 2016, 02:22:40 PM
He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)



Not many could argue with this.
A shame that ninjas set out to ruin him.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 05, 2016, 03:05:12 PM
I believe he weighed in at 225 pounds there
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Bevo on April 05, 2016, 03:52:59 PM
Flex just got out of the hosipital recently with more health issues  :-\
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Royalty on April 05, 2016, 04:33:12 PM
Interesting question: has anyone ever seen Flex hit a traditional side-tricep pose?

Yesterday on Heavy Muscle Radio, Dave Palumbo basically said that that Flex admitted to him that Flex considered his own side-tricep pose to be weak... so he would hit an alternate version of the pose.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on April 05, 2016, 04:41:29 PM
Interesting question: has anyone ever seen Flex hit a traditional side-tricep pose?

Yesterday on Heavy Muscle Radio, Dave Palumbo basically said that that Flex admitted to him that Flex considered his own side-tricep pose to be weak... so he would hit an alternate version of the pose.

Yeah seems like he doesn't hit it the normal way very often at all. Was hard to find an example.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 05, 2016, 04:45:12 PM
Quote
Interesting question: has anyone ever seen Flex hit a traditional side-tricep pose?

I just looked through a lot of the Flex pics and I can't seem to find many lol ironically he had amazing triceps but he disappeared from the sides
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Royalty on April 05, 2016, 04:50:35 PM
Flex's pecs also seem to look smaller when he hits the tradition side-tricep pose
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2016, 05:33:55 PM
He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)

A very strong case can be made for this. Especially aesthetically. Ronnie and Dorian though brought something else. It depends from which angle you're looking. Mass / Density / Freakiness vs Aesthetics.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Wiggs on April 05, 2016, 05:34:36 PM
I heard that on Heavy Muscle Radio as well. Good show by the way. I enjoy the back and forth between Palumbo and Aceto.

Flex had no flaws in his arms. They were perfect not freaky. For how big Ronnie arms were, the insertions of his outer head made his triceps appear weak.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 05, 2016, 05:42:48 PM
How many were the ninjas that set out to ruin him?

What ninja-clan etc?
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Coffeed on April 05, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
How many were the ninjas that set out to ruin him?

What ninja-clan etc?
You know as well as I it had to be at least a dozen. A physique with functional strength like that is no toy.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Skeletor on April 05, 2016, 06:54:12 PM
Not the ninja that attacked Flex:

(http://theglamorous.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/sn12.jpg)

(http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/OWENREALLYREALLYLOVESJESS/ninja_babe5.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K0_DmTeKr_o/SiTC9lDXT5I/AAAAAAAAAj0/E8iSsizjLx4/s800/ninja_babe3.jpg)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 05, 2016, 06:56:15 PM
He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)



thats best version of flex ever to step foot on stage

weird thing about flex is he always looked better at the arnold than he did at the olympia
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 05, 2016, 06:56:59 PM
I believe he weighed in at 225 pounds there
215. 216 at the Arnold, and 218 at the 93 Mr.O.
Interesting question: has anyone ever seen Flex hit a traditional side-tricep pose?

Yesterday on Heavy Muscle Radio, Dave Palumbo basically said that that Flex admitted to him that Flex considered his own side-tricep pose to be weak... so he would hit an alternate version of the pose.
Maybe because he has somewhat of a weak chest? Because his arms, especially triceps are flawless. Or maybe it was because Flex lacked confidence in his own physique?
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Iceman1981 on April 05, 2016, 09:02:42 PM
Interesting question: has anyone ever seen Flex hit a traditional side-tricep pose?

Yesterday on Heavy Muscle Radio, Dave Palumbo basically said that that Flex admitted to him that Flex considered his own side-tricep pose to be weak... so he would hit an alternate version of the pose.

Here you go. It looks pretty good, but at the same time it looks a little awkward if that makes any sense. ..
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: SaintAnger on April 05, 2016, 09:25:04 PM
Not a bad guy once you get to know him. 

GOAT.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Danimal77 on April 05, 2016, 10:56:51 PM

Fresher muscle in 1992... compared to 98 or 99

And 0 oil at that stage of his career. He was also much lighter in the early 90's. Dude went up to 277 offseason in the late 90's.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Danimal77 on April 05, 2016, 10:58:12 PM
He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)



His pecs, traps and quads were all too tiny.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 01:13:13 AM
His pecs, traps and quads were all too tiny.
He mentioned 32 inch quads (attached to a 28 inch waist) if I remember correctly from Mass. Construction.

Arms out distance chest in this shot
(http://www.muscleandfitness.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/media/Flex_Wheeler-content.jpg?itok=dCYvxiOK)

Same in this "relaxed" pose
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Flex-Wheeler-Steroids.jpg)

Traps seem to be good size from this pose which is from the 93 Ironman, where he was heavier and lost weight going into the Arnold.
(http://cms.bbcomcdn.com/teen/wheele75.jpg)
(http://www.yoummisr.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Photos-Flex-Wheeler-Mr-Olympia-IFBB-Bodybuilder-YouTube-Motivation-Youm-Misr-See-you-don’t-see-before-18.jpg)

Here is a 93 Flex vs prime Ronnie
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2013/01/FR5cJPG-1.jpg)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 05:25:43 AM
And 0 oil at that stage of his career. He was also much lighter in the early 90's. Dude went up to 277 offseason in the late 90's.
HE looked smooth as shit higher his weight climbed,like rhoden offseason can't tell its the same guy onstage in top shape.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 06, 2016, 06:22:23 AM
And 0 oil at that stage of his career. He was also much lighter in the early 90's. Dude went up to 277 offseason in the late 90's.
I saw him at 289 in the off season before the 99 O. He looked cartoonish, his delts and arms looked ridiculous.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 06, 2016, 07:36:02 AM
He mentioned 32 inch quads (attached to a 28 inch waist) if I remember correctly from Mass. Construction.

Arms out distance chest in this shot
(http://www.muscleandfitness.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/media/Flex_Wheeler-content.jpg?itok=dCYvxiOK)

Same in this "relaxed" pose
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Flex-Wheeler-Steroids.jpg)

Traps seem to be good size from this pose which is from the 93 Ironman, where he was heavier and lost weight going into the Arnold.
(http://cms.bbcomcdn.com/teen/wheele75.jpg)
(http://www.yoummisr.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Photos-Flex-Wheeler-Mr-Olympia-IFBB-Bodybuilder-YouTube-Motivation-Youm-Misr-See-you-don’t-see-before-18.jpg)

Here is a 93 Flex vs prime Ronnie
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2013/01/FR5cJPG-1.jpg)

He looks like a narrow Amateur next to Ronnie



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 07:40:02 AM
He looks like a narrow Amateur next to Ronnie



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
wheeler was better than him 92-96,97 ninja time and then 98 Ronnie was on another playing field than flex,,,
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 07:43:55 AM
He looks like a narrow Amateur next to Ronnie



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Because he was narrow.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 06, 2016, 08:23:59 AM
Flex really wasn't narrow, compared to Ronnie he was though. Wider than Heath.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 08:43:11 AM
Notice how you can see striations and separation in his delts, unlike in 98 and up.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 08:48:31 AM
Notice how you can see striations and separation in his delts, unlike in 98 and up.
unreal everything feathered them quads,delts,tris freak in terms of mass.condition /frame at the time..
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 09:09:44 AM
unreal everything feathered them quads,delts,tris freak in terms of mass.condition /frame at the time..
yep. I wish someone would do an interview with him and ask him straight up why go the oil route? Was it true that he figured that he couldn't gain the weight necessary to beat Ronnie?
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 09:24:48 AM
yep. I wish someone would do an interview with him and ask him straight up why go the oil route? Was it true that he figured that he couldn't gain the weight necessary to beat Ronnie?
I guess ,he was between a rock and hard place in the mro yates and then backend with coleman ,i'm sure he would have had no chance no matter what to beat either one for the title.he was too soft to beat Ronnie,and yates yes he was prettier build wise ,yates had a 1 yr show to be the best except for the certain grand prix's he did .
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 09:41:37 AM
I guess ,he was between a rock and hard place in the mro yates and then backend with coleman ,i'm sure he would have had no chance no matter what to beat either one for the title.he was too soft to beat Ronnie,and yates yes he was prettier build wise ,yates had a 1 yr show to be the best except for the certain grand prix's he did .
True. But Flex needed to do what would have worked best for him, which worked for Shawn Ray, and worked for Dex, and now in a sense has worked for Phil. Slow incremental gain in weight. By doing this, Flex would have ended up in the 240s, hard and dry.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on April 06, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
I remember someone said that '98 Flex was "the best application of oil ever."

That physique has its appeals, but the window was short, then it started to look super funky. '98 "O" Flex looked great sans soft hams and glutes (no homo)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 09:49:29 AM
True. But Flex needed to do what would have worked best for him, which worked for Shawn Ray, and worked for Dex, and now in a sense has worked for Phil. Slow incremental gain in weight. By doing this, Flex would have ended up in the 240s, hard and dry.
exactly and you knowing that era so well know the guys who came up and did well or flamed out,wheeler in the smaller shows like ironman it was easy,the arnolds he still was peaking for,mro he seemed to never get the right look overall.yates new what to do coverup in England train like a beast fly out weeks before mro and peak..done .
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Disco187 on April 06, 2016, 01:14:44 PM
2 more. I believe ND took these originally


Now thats a fuckin posse.  they should make that a mandatory and see how truelly shitty some of them pros look,

Cormier did that posse nasty as hell also
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Disco187 on April 06, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
Wooow look how shitty he looks in that pic next to coleman.


Flex wheeler is the man, theres gotta be a better comparison
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Hulkster on April 06, 2016, 02:05:15 PM
He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)



if he had lats he would have been the best of all time. but he was very narrow in the rear lat spread.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
if he had lats he would have been the best of all time. but he was very narrow in the rear lat spread.
HIM AND LEVERONE OLYMPIA DEBUTS WERE LEAN,CRISP LINES,CRAZY CODITION RIGHT FROM THE START AND LIGHTER BODYWEIGHTS,,
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 06, 2016, 02:12:46 PM

Here is a 93 Flex vs prime Ronnie
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2013/01/FR5cJPG-1.jpg)

Prime Ronnie was a class of its own.  Can't even use photos to justify.  When he walked out on stage it was so obvious the show was over.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 02:14:47 PM
Prime Ronnie was a class of its own.  Can't even use photos to justify.  When he walked out on stage it was so obvious the show was over.
he looks insane there Ronnie legs are like to pillars touching...
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 02:15:03 PM
1991 Mr. O, 2nd place Dorian Yates- Rookie year
1992 Mr. O, 2nd place Kevin Levrone- Rookie year
1993 Mr. O, 2nd place Flex Wheeler-Rookie year

3 years in a row in a very competitive scene, rookies took runner up at the O. I don't think we'll be seeing that anymore under the current way bodybuilding is judged. I'm sure it made for suspenseful shows.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 06, 2016, 02:16:47 PM
1991 Mr. O, 2nd place Dorian Yates- Rookie year
1992 Mr. O, 2nd place Kevin Levrone- Rookie year
1993 Mr. O, 2nd place Flex Wheeler-Rookie year

3 years in a row in a very competitive scene, rookies took runner up at the O. I don't think we'll be seeing that anymore under the current way bodybuilding is judged. I'm sure it made for suspenseful shows.

Don't they claim now that you have to earn your stripes or some bullshit.  But as long as Branch is still picked in the top 5 you know the whole thing is fucked.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
1991 Mr. O, 2nd place Dorian Yates- Rookie year
1992 Mr. O, 2nd place Kevin Levrone- Rookie year
1993 Mr. O, 2nd place Flex Wheeler-Rookie year

3 years in a row in a very competitive scene, rookies took runner up at the O. I don't think we'll be seeing that anymore under the current way bodybuilding is judged. I'm sure it made for suspenseful shows.
yates wasn't rookie,yes a mro rookie but he competed in 90/91 noc's,,wheeler did spring shows that year,i think kev was as well spring shows
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 02:20:01 PM
yates wasn't rookie,yes a mro rookie but he competed in 90/91 noc's,,wheeler did spring shows that year,i think kev was as well spring shows

Oops, should have been more clear. Rookie Mr. O.   I couldn't fathom that happening today. I couldn't fathom a rookie winning the Arnold.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Bevo on April 06, 2016, 02:33:06 PM
yep. I wish someone would do an interview with him and ask him straight up why go the oil route? Was it true that he figured that he couldn't gain the weight necessary to beat Ronnie?

That's cause flex is mentally weak and fucked in the head, he still is.

He's already having more health issues as we speak and even traded in his wife Madeline for a new one already  ;D
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 02:35:51 PM
That's cause flex is mentally weak and fucked in the head, he still is.

He's already having more health issues as we speak and even traded in his wife Madeline for a new one already  ;D
I was thinking his new woman was the fitness competitor with the really flexible back.

Flex should just hold off on the weights and just become a bodyweight specialist.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 02:43:20 PM
Wooow look how shitty he looks in that pic next to coleman.


Flex wheeler is the man, theres gotta be a better comparison
Flex Wheeler vs Paul Dillett and Shawn Ray, same contest. I believe that this was either in 96 or 97.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394539.0;attach=428041)
(http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24933&d=1296663106)

Flex vs Dorian vs Sonny Schmidt
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3844383&d=1320450382)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on April 06, 2016, 02:44:55 PM
Man look at Paul's chest. I'm guessing that his bad shoulders made it difficult to bench as well.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Earl1972 on April 06, 2016, 04:06:57 PM
That's cause flex is mentally weak and fucked in the head, he still is.

He's already having more health issues as we speak and even traded in his wife Madeline for a new one already  ;D

what are his health issues?

E
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Bevo on April 06, 2016, 04:58:21 PM
what are his health issues?

E


He was Hospitalized just recently for stomach pain not too long ago, u can read about it in muscular development site
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Danimal77 on April 06, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
215. 216 at the Arnold, and 218 at the 93 Mr.O.Maybe because he has somewhat of a weak chest? Because his arms, especially triceps are flawless. Or maybe it was because Flex lacked confidence in his own physique?

He was 232 at the 1993 Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Danimal77 on April 06, 2016, 06:58:48 PM
I saw him at 289 in the off season before the 99 O. He looked cartoonish, his delts and arms looked ridiculous.

Damn, I didn't know he went that high. Levrone only went up to 275 in the offseason.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 06, 2016, 07:21:16 PM
He was 232 at the 1993 Mr. Olympia.
Nope. Not even close. 232 maybe at the 98 O. When he was 230ish, he had no crispness to him and was larger. That was in 96-97. In the Hardbody vid, which was shot one week out, when he was in the the posing room he said he was about 220, and had water to drop. So that means he was still losing weight. His size was not that far off from the Arnold. At the Ironman he was bigger and fuller, and a week or so later at the 93 Arnold, he was cut and lighter. Looking close to his 92 form.
At the 97 Arnold, he was 224. Nasser had said that Flex told him, and Nasser said this in an interview be Shae he was incensed that he lost to a 224 pound Flex. Also, again Flex's physique matches closely with 92, USAs, 93 Arnold and 93 Olympia. And when Flex did that 2002 Mr. O (supposedly natty), he was about 218-220. And again, you could tell that he is lighter. Everything is pretty consistent with him being 216-220ish his first few years, except for 96 or 97. Apparently for the 96 O he was 227.
The only time during his rookie year that an argument could be made for 232 is at the Ironman, where he was fuller and noticeably bigger. You cannot go by the listed weights on the vids.

If Fortress or ND can dig it up, there was an indepth Flex Wheeler interview by Musclemag (back in 99 or so), where he disclosed his true weights. And I think even Joe McNeal had said the same weights. 215 92 USAs, 216 93 Arnold Classic, and 218 93 Mr. O.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Azure on April 06, 2016, 07:35:28 PM
I was thinking his new woman was the fitness competitor with the really flexible back.

Flex should just hold off on the weights and just become a bodyweight specialist.

Not Stacy Simons....Nooooo.

I don't know if his fiancee is afilliated with fitness.  She seems very nice and devoted to him.  Probably because she hasn't had to take care of him and the rest of their family for years like Madeline did.  Trade the old model in once it's not looking as shiny and new anymore.

He should focus on being some sort of Martial arts expert
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: SquatsRule on April 06, 2016, 08:19:19 PM
I watched his mass construction video recently as I'd never seen it. What a douche.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 07, 2016, 05:27:13 AM
Nope. Not even close. 232 maybe at the 98 O. When he was 230ish, he had no crispness to him and was larger. That was in 96-97. In the Hardbody vid, which was shot one week out, when he was in the the posing room he said he was about 220, and had water to drop. So that means he was still losing weight. His size was not that far off from the Arnold. At the Ironman he was bigger and fuller, and a week or so later at the 93 Arnold, he was cut and lighter. Looking close to his 92 form.
At the 97 Arnold, he was 224. Nasser had said that Flex told him, and Nasser said this in an interview be Shae he was incensed that he lost to a 224 pound Flex. Also, again Flex's physique matches closely with 92, USAs, 93 Arnold and 93 Olympia. And when Flex did that 2002 Mr. O (supposedly natty), he was about 218-220. And again, you could tell that he is lighter. Everything is pretty consistent with him being 216-220ish his first few years, except for 96 or 97. Apparently for the 96 O he was 227.
The only time during his rookie year that an argument could be made for 232 is at the Ironman, where he was fuller and noticeably bigger. You cannot go by the listed weights on the vids.

If Fortress or ND can dig it up, there was an indepth Flex Wheeler interview by Musclemag (back in 99 or so), where he disclosed his true weights. And I think even Joe McNeal had said the same weights. 215 92 USAs, 216 93 Arnold Classic, and 218 93 Mr. O.
Parker, He said that he was about 235 at the 98 Arnold where I still say was his best condition ever.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Royalty on April 07, 2016, 05:34:37 AM
Parker, He said that he was about 235 at the 98 Arnold where I still say was his best condition ever.

But he had oil in 98
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on April 07, 2016, 05:41:27 AM
Parker, He said that he was about 235 at the 98 Arnold where I still say was his best condition ever.
Which would line up correctly with what I said. I said 232 maybe at the 98 O. And 235 at the 98 Arnold is not that off from 232, so he and Chad would try and replicate that look.

But he had oil in 98

Which would mean, not his best condition, by default. He looked better without the oil, more striated and separated.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 07, 2016, 05:42:37 AM
But he had oil in 98

Oil or not he was dry as a bone.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2016, 07:05:50 AM
But he had oil in 98

HIS delts could have landed an airplane of his unnatural looking rear delts from the side by 98,blurred definition,his already weak chest was even moreso by the over inflated delts/arms.and his traps were way off too at that point,,he had all the gifts prior shape/look/balance,,then he did all that to ruin it..
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Taffin on April 07, 2016, 07:20:11 AM
He was Hospitalized just recently for stomach pain not too long ago, u can read about it in muscular development site

That's a shame.  From recent pics it looks to me like he's maybe using a little oil/TRT so I hope this isn't backfiring on him.  I guess we all got into this whole thing for various reasons.  If you were a real skinny ecto-guy to start with, maybe it's harder to go back to that than others might find it... As Flex surely came into it from this angle:

Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on December 20, 2016, 01:04:33 PM
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Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: oldschoolfan on December 20, 2016, 01:17:52 PM
He was sharper and held less water at the Arnold.  IMO, what Flex presented at the '93 Arnold was the best bodybuilding physique of all time.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/muroot/31b0013d-ef4a-7c37.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=421969.0;attach=468086;image)



gotta agree bro, he looked good that night to bad he never replicated that condition again
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: lextheflex on December 20, 2016, 01:24:57 PM
I watched his mass construction video recently as I'd never seen it. What a douche.
Why? Was he Snobby, arrogant, boring? Enlighten us on your opinion.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on June 26, 2017, 07:03:14 PM
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5130293&d=1354282293)

Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: BSN on June 26, 2017, 10:36:18 PM
Great physique
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on June 26, 2017, 11:53:30 PM
Great physique
And then he broke his neck, discovered synthol, lost to Ronnie, and it all went down hill.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Bevo on June 27, 2017, 12:27:29 AM
And then he broke his neck, discovered synthol, lost to Ronnie, and it all went down hill.

Lost his own kidney as well
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ropo on June 27, 2017, 12:44:46 AM
And then he broke his neck, discovered synthol, lost to Ronnie, and it all went down hill.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VqXGAR22_L8/maxresdefault.jpg) (http://i1.pudelekx.pl/a580bf29ce657c81aeeee69d298209cad69062d8/injecting_synthol_into_your_muscles_can_make_you_instantly_look_like_a_douchebag_640_10-jpg) I just happen to have skinny forearms just like this guy:(http://i1.pudelekx.pl/63620172a270ed2ff17e295b2da14ca077e0e449/injecting_synthol_into_your_muscles_can_make_you_instantly_look_like_a_douchebag_640_02-jpg)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: ESFitness on June 27, 2017, 01:22:16 AM
Parker, He said that he was about 235 at the 98 Arnold where I still say was his best condition ever.

I remember after that show (& for years after) everybody who was there said that Not only was flexes best conditionl, but was the best condition they'd ever seen any bodybuilder ever at any show. Up until recently pictures of that show we're fucking impossible to find, for me at least.. and all I had to go on where the pictures I saw a couple of the mags and the time and to me it looked like the lighting was absolute shit at that show because I couldn't really see shit in the magazine pictures due to all the purple and blue lights bouncing off the guys.

If you look back to flex in 92 that's probably the ideal look for what the men's classic bodybuilding division should be. If you look at Flex in that side chest pose for 92 you can see striations damn you're everywhere in every muscle group delts pics triceps even a little bit biceps and forearms serratus ABS Etc. Thought id read flex say he may have even been 212-213 at that show ( after admitting he greatly overstated his body weight and all of those years).

Dunno  why some guys say his legs were weak? I always thought his legs we're actually pretty big especially for an ectomorph. Curious what is Leakesville look like what what what c'mere c'mere where's your treats where's your treats no no drink your milk first
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on June 27, 2017, 01:58:45 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VqXGAR22_L8/maxresdefault.jpg) (http://i1.pudelekx.pl/a580bf29ce657c81aeeee69d298209cad69062d8/injecting_synthol_into_your_muscles_can_make_you_instantly_look_like_a_douchebag_640_10-jpg) I just happen to have skinny forearms just like this guy:(http://i1.pudelekx.pl/63620172a270ed2ff17e295b2da14ca077e0e449/injecting_synthol_into_your_muscles_can_make_you_instantly_look_like_a_douchebag_640_02-jpg)
It should be "I used synthol before, but I don't now".
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2017, 05:33:57 AM
Great physique
he was spotless at that usa's imagine john Sherman,edgar fletcher,dennis newman,mike francois,demayo,dean caputo,mike mattarrazzo,ken castagnoli,roger stewart,just afew from then its insane the talent physique pool..
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on June 27, 2017, 05:38:29 AM
And then he broke his neck, discovered synthol, lost to Ronnie, and it all went down hill.

Hey, leave Down Hill out of this!
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Nether Animal on June 27, 2017, 05:39:41 AM
he was spotless at that usa's imagine john Sherman,edgar fletcher,dennis newman,mike francois,demayo,dean caputo,mike mattarrazzo,ken castagnoli,roger stewart,just afew from then its insane the talent physique pool..

Gerard Dente too.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=612162.0;attach=680960;image)
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2017, 06:00:50 AM
Gerard Dente too.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=612162.0;attach=680960;image)
x2 jersey guy,,saw him out at a club in 92 was huge he was maybe 21
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Never1AShow on June 27, 2017, 06:18:02 AM
x2 jersey guy,,saw him out at a club in 92 was huge he was maybe 21

He won the 1987 NPC Teen Nationals so he was 19 in 1987.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2017, 06:23:26 AM
He won the 1987 NPC Teen Nationals so he was 19 in 1987.
24 THEN WE ARE SAME AGE THEN HE MIGHT HAVE YR ON ME..
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Rambone on June 27, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Is that a V Cobra?

Good eye!
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ropo on June 27, 2017, 10:50:22 PM
It should be " It is fucking obvious I use synthol, but now I lie about it like a moron".

Fixed..
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: delta9mda on June 28, 2017, 04:14:20 AM
As great as flex was....... Dorian crushed him.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Parker on June 28, 2017, 05:29:46 AM
As great as flex was....... Dorian crushed him.
one could say that Dorian (and the judges that rewarded his look) started the down turn of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: WHEELER - 92 USAs
Post by: Ropo on June 28, 2017, 11:59:56 PM
As great as flex was....... Dorian crushed him.

But how? How many points judges take from Flex because synthol/fake muscles? At the time they cannot talk about it, but it is in the IFBB rules:"Implants or fluid injections
causing the change of the natural shape of any other parts or muscles of the body are strictly prohibited and may result in disqualification of the competitor." -IFBB rules 2017 edition.