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Title: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: affeman on April 27, 2016, 04:00:11 AM
I can't think of any other Pro moving poundages like that these days ???

http://www.instagram.com/p/BEosINiTMWJ/

http://www.instagram.com/p/BErCtCuzMTq/
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: io856 on April 27, 2016, 04:02:20 AM
josh lenartowicz is moving seriously heavy weight here

340kg DLs for 5



but yeah McCarver is up there with some seriously impressive lifts
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Man of Steel on April 27, 2016, 04:28:03 AM
Dallas is in Lilliebridge territory.

I'd guess he has an 825 dead, 525 bench and if his squat is in the 700s that's a great total.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 27, 2016, 04:33:00 AM
geez that bar is bending.  

I miss the days of fake weight easy shoulder presses with 405 pounds.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Spike on April 27, 2016, 04:39:59 AM
He trains with that Matt Jansen kid - they push weight


Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 04:41:37 AM
And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: WannaBePro on April 27, 2016, 04:48:49 AM
And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?

At least we have something to watch now, like we did with Ronnie. So sick of Phil/Rhoden/Dexter pushing baby weight "for the pump" and then talk in a monotone voice about how brutal the pump is. Watching Ronnie squat 800x2 got more people stoked to go to the gym than every training video Phil's put out.
I like that Dallas is putting this kind of stuff out there. I hope once he's in his mid-late-30's he smartens up and trains lighter. But as he's still young, why not put out some cool content? It can only bring him more positive attention!
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Henda on April 27, 2016, 04:58:10 AM
Great to see a pro who actually trains, a rare sight these days
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 05:01:37 AM
At least we have something to watch now, like we did with Ronnie. So sick of Phil/Rhoden/Dexter pushing baby weight "for the pump" and then talk in a monotone voice about how brutal the pump is. Watching Ronnie squat 800x2 got more people stoked to go to the gym than every training video Phil's put out.
I like that Dallas is putting this kind of stuff out there. I hope once he's in his mid-late-30's he smartens up and trains lighter. But as he's still young, why not put out some cool content? It can only bring him more positive attention!
Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.
Also, Phil, Rhoden, and especially Dex and Vince have longevity, due to that pumper philosophy.
And so would you rather lift heavy and potentially screw up your physique for likes by random bodybuilding fans, or seek for longevity and money in your pocket?
I am not denying that watching dudes put up the heavy weight is cool or entertaining, but looking at the whole picture, the question is it worth it? Ronnie Coleman with 8 Mr. O's can had had multiple surgeries on his back, and looks to not be able to walk without an aid. Vince Taylor will be 60 this year and looks better than most 20-30 yr olds, and is one of the winningest bodybuilders of all time. Dex is in his mid 40s, and has won the Mr. O, won his 5th Arnold, and placed 2nd to Phil, who is about 10 years his junior. And Phil, is a 5 time Mr. O. Also, we could go into the fact Flex Wheeler is a pumper, Shawn Ray, and Arnold himself is as well.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: _aj_ on April 27, 2016, 05:05:16 AM
Great to see a pro who actually trains, a rare sight these days

Pretty soon, the drugs will be so good that training won't make an enormous difference. It'll be the drugs and the genetic response to drugs.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: SuperTed on April 27, 2016, 05:05:56 AM
Dallas has to be one of the strongest pro's of all time.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Waller on April 27, 2016, 05:10:46 AM
Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.


I have to disagree here. Anyone that deadlifts will know that 8 plates a side isn't a weight you can reach without intensity. Something like that doesn't happen lackadaisically.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Yamcha on April 27, 2016, 05:12:02 AM
Yelling Hebrewic Gibberish does not equate Intensity.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 05:15:21 AM
Dallas has to be one of the strongest pro's of all time.
I  guess yall forgot Stan "Rhino" Efferding and JOJ, and Chris Cormier?
I have to disagree here. Anyone that deadlifts will know that 8 plates a side isn't a weight you can reach without intensity. Something like that doesn't happen lackadaisically.
take a look at Ronnie's vids again. Dallas lacks that aura of "I am going to lift the gym, the state, nation, the continent, the whole damn world" type of intensity. And then he smiles and laughs, because he enjoys it.

As a matter of fact, take a look at Ronnie's rehab vids, he approaches the rehab the same damn way.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: BIG_STI on April 27, 2016, 05:20:31 AM
Dallas is in Lilliebridge territory.

I'd guess he has an 825 dead, 525 bench and if his squat is in the 700s that's a great total.

Other than his bench nothing is close to Erics numbers they weigh around the same, but for a guy whos not training for a max single these numbers are crazy.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: WannaBePro on April 27, 2016, 05:28:14 AM
Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.
Also, Phil, Rhoden, and especially Dex and Vince have longevity, due to that pumper philosophy.
And so would you rather lift heavy and potentially screw up your physique for likes by random bodybuilding fans, or seek for longevity and money in your pocket?
I am not denying that watching dudes put up the heavy weight is cool or entertaining, but looking at the whole picture, the question is it worth it? Ronnie Coleman with 8 Mr. O's can had had multiple surgeries on his back, and looks to not be able to walk without an aid. Vince Taylor will be 60 this year and looks better than most 20-30 yr olds, and is one of the winningest bodybuilders of all time. Dex is in his mid 40s, and has won the Mr. O, won his 5th Arnold, and placed 2nd to Phil, who is about 10 years his junior. And Phil, is a 5 time Mr. O. Also, we could go into the fact Flex Wheeler is a pumper, Shawn Ray, and Arnold himself is as well.


Is he really just doing it for the fans though? Maybe he enjoys lifting heavy-ass weight? And why not show it off?
And yes, those guys you mentioned have longevity on their side. But lets be real here, Dallas is white, he won't outlast those guys like Ronnie COULD have if he toned down his training into his later years as a competitive pro.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, and believe me, I do think the heavy lifting contributed to this, but Ronnie's whole family had hip replacement surgeries. And he's the only one who actually lifted weights... I'm sure he could've put it off longer by not squatting and deadlifting inhuman weight, but it looks like he would've had to have that surgery done eventually, regardless. Now, the spinal surgeries, yes, that's probably due to the lifting.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Disco187 on April 27, 2016, 05:29:07 AM
I have to disagree here. Anyone that deadlifts will know that 8 plates a side isn't a weight you can reach without intensity. Something like that doesn't happen lackadaisically.


I thought the same thing.


the unbelievable was such a inspirational dvd for me. I must of watched that 10 times.
blood and guts aswell, my friend had a worn out vhs tape of it and we still would sit around and watch the tape through the distortion of the tape and be motivated as can be.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: io856 on April 27, 2016, 05:34:03 AM
holy shit 5 plates a side bench for reps

this guy is the real deal!
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 05:36:37 AM
Is he really just doing it for the fans though? Maybe he enjoys lifting heavy-ass weight? And why not show it off?
And yes, those guys you mentioned have longevity on their side. But lets be real here, Dallas is white, he won't outlast those guys like Ronnie COULD have if he toned down his training into his later years as a competitive pro.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, and believe me, I do think the heavy lifting contributed to this, but Ronnie's whole family had hip replacement surgeries. And he's the only one who actually lifted weights... I'm sure he could've put it off longer by not squatting and deadlifting inhuman weight, but it looks like he would've had to have that surgery done eventually, regardless. Now, the spinal surgeries, yes, that's probably due to the lifting.
I don't mind the show off, what you can do in the gym, but as we know with JOJ, it doesn't always translate well to doing well in a show. Remember when Phil Heath did that 225 bench off? You ain't never see him do something like that again, either.
If you are a competitive bodybuilder, your job is to compete. Once we get into the "let's go for PRs" territory, then you are risking injury and the "I told you so" from the bodybulding community. Getbig is famous for cheering on certain behavior, and then when the inevitable happens, the forum starts calling the person a idiot.


I thought the same thing.


the unbelievable was such a inspirational dvd for me. I must of watched that 10 times.
blood and guts aswell, my friend had a worn out vhs tape of it and we still would sit around and watch the tape through the distortion of the tape and be motivated as can be.
The Unbelievable was the same way for me. And then it was either I grew up and the fact that I see Ronnie Coleman with all these injuries, yet his comtemporaries don't have them---and even Kevin used to bench heavy. That I realized that maybe Ronnie took it too far.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: SuperTed on April 27, 2016, 05:38:34 AM
I  guess yall forgot Stan "Rhino" Efferding and JOJ, and Chris Cormier?

Efferding probably holds the title as the strongest ever pro. As for the others, crazy strong for sure but I can't think of many pro's in history who could pull in the mid 800's like Dallas can. That's in elite levels.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: WannaBePro on April 27, 2016, 05:40:11 AM
I don't mind the show off, what you can do in the gym, but as we know with JOJ, it doesn't always translate well to doing well in a show. Remember when Phil Heath did that 225 bench off? You ain't never see him do something like that again, either.
If you are a competitive bodybuilder, your job is to compete. Once we get into the "let's go for PRs" territory, then you are risking injury and the "I told you so" from the bodybulding community. Getbig is famous for cheering on certain behavior, and then when the inevitable happens, the forum starts calling the person a idiot.
The Unbelievable was the same way for me. And then it was either I grew up and the fact that I see Ronnie Coleman with all these injuries, yet his comtemporaries don't have them---and even Kevin used to bench heavy. That I realized that maybe Ronnie took it too far.

That's fair. I see your point. Dallas does have a good physique, though, he's balanced unlike JOJ. But I do believe that if Dallas wants to sling heavy weight, maybe he should do a couple powerlifting meets. In any case, I'm just glad to see something "hardcore" come out of bodybuilding these days and not Phil's 4 plate hammer strength chest press...
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: io856 on April 27, 2016, 05:42:52 AM
And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?

What do you mean by heavy weight?

Lifting below 6RM?
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 05:53:04 AM
That's fair. I see your point. Dallas does have a good physique, though, he's balanced unlike JOJ. But I do believe that if Dallas wants to sling heavy weight, maybe he should do a couple powerlifting meets. In any case, I'm just glad to see something "hardcore" come out of bodybuilding these days and not Phil's 4 plate hammer strength chest press...
I don't mind, I guess what I mean is that expect balance...a mix of hardcore and other. What works for Phil works for him. And actually I think someone said that he more than likely can push the heavy weight, but he is not trying to get injuried.
I know of people who watched his first DVD and said that it was boring, and about the only intense vids that he has are his arm workout vids.

What do you mean by heavy weight?

Lifting below 6RM?
We all "know" what heavy weight means. Heavy Weight=Ronnie Weight (that makes him shake his head really quickly, and yell "yeah buddy...Boooooo!!!")
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: local hero on April 27, 2016, 07:27:42 AM
Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.
Also, Phil, Rhoden, and especially Dex and Vince have longevity, due to that pumper philosophy.
And so would you rather lift heavy and potentially screw up your physique for likes by random bodybuilding fans, or seek for longevity and money in your pocket?
I am not denying that watching dudes put up the heavy weight is cool or entertaining, but looking at the whole picture, the question is it worth it? Ronnie Coleman with 8 Mr. O's can had had multiple surgeries on his back, and looks to not be able to walk without an aid. Vince Taylor will be 60 this year and looks better than most 20-30 yr olds, and is one of the winningest bodybuilders of all time. Dex is in his mid 40s, and has won the Mr. O, won his 5th Arnold, and placed 2nd to Phil, who is about 10 years his junior. And Phil, is a 5 time Mr. O. Also, we could go into the fact Flex Wheeler is a pumper, Shawn Ray, and Arnold himself is as well.



Reeks of racism.....
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on April 27, 2016, 07:30:33 AM
I've trained lighter for periods in the past few years (still to failure) but once I start doing some heavy weights again nothing beats it. The soreness the next day feels awesome  :).

But as you get older no need to be stupid. Ronnie should have backed off.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: io856 on April 27, 2016, 07:36:09 AM
Ronnie could lift what he lifted because he was strong. He had a huge amount of muscle mass(perhap even unsurpassed), which could tolerate and produce a huge amount of force.

What is "heavy" for Dexter is not the same as what was "heavy" for Ronnie. For example...
Both trained to their maximum and beyond
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 07:57:47 AM

Reeks of racism.....
Lol, where?
Is it under this weight? No. iIs it under that weight? No. Is it in your mind? Yes.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: johnnynoname on April 27, 2016, 07:59:42 AM
Ronnie ruined his body before there was the IG

....the next ten years is gonna show a trail of bodies that will make "the dead pro wrestlers list" look like a anorexic's grocery list
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 08:02:00 AM
Ronnie ruined his body before there was the IG

....the next ten years is gonna show a trail of bodies that will make "the dead pro wrestlers list" look like a anorexic's grocery list
I.F.B.B. stands for Instant, Free, BodyBags.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Man of Steel on April 27, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
Other than his bench nothing is close to Erics numbers they weigh around the same, but for a guy whos not training for a max single these numbers are crazy.

I said it's Lilliebridge territory....I didn't say they were close or matched.

Eric recently pulled a 906 in competition.....825 is in that territory. 
Eric recently pushed a 545 in competition......525 is in that territory.
Eric recently squated a WR (wraps only) 960ish......I don't know what Dallas' squat is.  Although if it's 700s his total is excellent.

Eric is worldclass, but there aren't many folks with 800+ dead, 500+bench and 700+ squat....those are great, great numbers for a bb.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: BIG_STI on April 27, 2016, 08:55:13 AM
I said it's Lilliebridge territory....I didn't say they were close or matched.

Eric recently pulled a 906 in competition.....825 is in that territory. 
Eric recently pushed a 545 in competition......525 is in that territory.
Eric recently squated a WR (wraps only) 960ish......I don't know what Dallas' squat is.  Although if it's 700s his total is excellent.

Eric is worldclass, but there aren't many folks with 800+ dead, 500+bench and 700+ squat....those are great, great numbers for a bb.


His deads are done with straps, knock 20-40lbs off over under grip.

Bench is close but Dallas isn't paused.

Eric wraps only is 1036, 940 sleeves, unknown what Dallas can do, Guessing nothing over 800, 80 - 100lbs at that level is night and day difference it can take years to gain that much strength, let alone 150-200lbs
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Man of Steel on April 27, 2016, 08:56:10 AM
His deads are done with straps, knock 20-40lbs off over under grip.

Bench is close but Dallas isn't paused.

Eric wraps only is 1036, 940 sleeves, unknown what Dallas can do, Guessing nothing over 800, 80 - 100lbs at that level is night and day difference it can take years to gain that much strength, let alone 150-200lbs

Dallas also isn't in a PL meet LOL.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Fortress on April 27, 2016, 09:01:33 AM
Ronnie could lift what he lifted because he was strong. He had a huge amount of muscle mass(perhap even unsurpassed), which could tolerate and produce a huge amount of force.

What is "heavy" for Dexter is not the same as what was "heavy" for Ronnie. For example...
Both trained to their maximum and beyond


Huge amounts of muscle mass means relatively little without the even-more-important other components of strength performance: supporting structures and the CNS.

Other points:

Shawn Ray did indeed lift heavy. The guy was incredibly strong for his relatively light bodyweight.

If we're talking huge capacity for strength in pro bodybuilding, Mike Francois's name needs to be mentioned.

This Dallas guy is incredibly strong! He outperforms Ronnie, that's for sure. So, yes, strong!

I concur: Bodybuilding loses steam when there are so many wimp-ass "champions" posting f aggy workout videos.

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: SF1900 on April 27, 2016, 09:04:33 AM
Being the strongest IFBB pro these days is equivalent to being the strongest person in the room full of people who are 80+ years old (if you are much younger).

Since most IFBB pros barely move the weight more than 1", well, its not too difficult to be the strongest.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: WalterWhite on April 27, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
His deads are done with straps, knock 20-40lbs off over under grip.

Bench is close but Dallas isn't paused.

Eric wraps only is 1036, 940 sleeves, unknown what Dallas can do, Guessing nothing over 800, 80 - 100lbs at that level is night and day difference it can take years to gain that much strength, let alone 150-200lbs

His maxes are during workouts.  I competed in PL and was well rested for meets which helped me achieve max lifts.

This is very impressive during his workout.

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: BIG_STI on April 27, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
His maxes are during workouts.  I competed in PL and was well rested for meets which helped me achieve max lifts.

This is very impressive during his workout.



Most people pull better during a workout than at a meet, take as long as you want between sets, don't have 100s of people watching you, haven't been at a meet all day long by the time deads come around and your body is stiff and tired. Most high level guys can't pull there training max in a full power meet.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: BIG_STI on April 27, 2016, 10:49:18 AM
Dallas also isn't in a PL meet LOL.

His gym maxes are higher than what I listed, Eric benched 560 in the gym with a pause, I'd be surprised if Dallas could push 500 with pause. At 308 weight class in powerlifting a 500 or even 525 bench isn't big, no one cares unless you are pushing close to 600 at that body weight. Stan efferding the strongest pro bodybuilder ever benched over 600 at 275 multiple times.

I'm not trying to compare Dallas to Eric because hes not even close, and obviously one trains for max strength the other is a bodybuilder. And yes Dallas is strong as hell, probably the strongest pro bb around right now. It would be cool to see what he can do if he ever tried powerlifting but I doubt will ever see that.

Just thought trying to compare him to one of the strongest powerlifters to have ever lived is kind of dumb.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: local hero on April 27, 2016, 11:06:14 AM
Lol, where?
Is it under this weight? No. iIs it under that weight? No. Is it in your mind? Yes.


I've yet to hear you complement a white soapy stud yet...
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: WalterWhite on April 27, 2016, 11:24:39 AM
Most people pull better during a workout than at a meet, take as long as you want between sets, don't have 100s of people watching you, haven't been at a meet all day long by the time deads come around and your body is stiff and tired. Most high level guys can't pull there training max in a full power meet.

The people I trained with trained to peak at their next meet if they were competing.  When I was targeting a bench over 500 I did not attempt my max before the meet. Benching 485 for two gave me a good Idea of how to open and what my safe lifts would be.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 11:52:42 AM

I've yet to hear you complement a white soapy stud yet...
SMH, repeatedly I have stated that Michael Francois would have given Ronnie fits, and had he not gotten sick, Jay would not be where he was. Dennis Newman was also great. And I have said that Fangs and Big Ben were good, they just need some work. Pay attention, and work those mediocre genetics of yours, and you to can garner my compliments.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Royalty on April 27, 2016, 12:02:19 PM
Big Ramy works up to 405LB for 8 reps on bench press. 405 is smart cut-off point. It's enough weight to stimulate the pecs, but it's 100lbs less then the weight that popped Levrone's pec back in '93
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: calfzilla on April 27, 2016, 12:09:05 PM
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Simple Simon on April 27, 2016, 12:09:30 PM
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

This.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 12:27:04 PM
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?
Exactly.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: SF1900 on April 27, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

Well, yeah, that is obvious. And, of course, it makes sense.

However, it does suck knowing that the best bodybuilder in the world only won because he has a great genetic response to drugs, despite training light and not really hard

We often equate hard work with results. So, to most people (not to me), it would "suck" knowing that someone is the best in the world with a half-assed work ethic.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Bevo on April 27, 2016, 01:55:38 PM
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

Exactly, that's why Phil is going to last for a while in terms of tendons, and not tearing his muscles

Jay was the same way, lift enough to stimulate

It's useless to do all these heavy 800 pound deadlifts as a bber
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 27, 2016, 02:07:55 PM
Lift light and we criticize them for sticking to machines and lifting like pussies.  Lift heavy and it's "oh what a moron, he's gonna be a cripple by 40"

Dallas probably wont make much noise on the stage, posting impressive lifts like this is a much more effective way to market himself.

And let's be real, if longevity is what you're after, it's best to avoid the bodybuilding stage entirely
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: BIG_STI on April 27, 2016, 02:11:16 PM
The people I trained with trained to peak at their next meet if they were competing.  When I was targeting a bench over 500 I did not attempt my max before the meet. Benching 485 for two gave me a good Idea of how to open and what my safe lifts would be.

I agree I don't believe in maxing out before a meet either but some do, Lilliebridges and there crew all do and it obviously works them, turned out more world record holders than any other gym in the world.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: doison on April 27, 2016, 02:17:07 PM
Dallas is in Lilliebridge territory.

I'd guess he has an 825 dead, 525 bench and if his squat is in the 700s that's a great total.

He's already on video pulling 845 (with straps), I believe at the end of a back workout
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: doison on April 27, 2016, 02:18:53 PM
I  guess yall forgot Stan "Rhino" Efferding and JOJ, and Chris Cormier?take a look at Ronnie's vids again. Dallas lacks that aura of "I am going to lift the gym, the state, nation, the continent, the whole damn world" type of intensity. And then he smiles and laughs, because he enjoys it.

As a matter of fact, take a look at Ronnie's rehab vids, he approaches the rehab the same damn way.

the only one close is Stan (who had the raw record for a while).  JOJ has never pulled 845 and deads were his speciality
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Bevo on April 27, 2016, 02:23:03 PM
Rhino is the only one close is Stan (who had the raw record for a while).  JOJ has never pulled 845 and dears were his speciality

Johnnie Jackson can't even rep 315 for 10/12 and can't squat 405 either for reps

Complete fraud

Branch is a lot stronger than him
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Royalty on April 27, 2016, 03:15:28 PM
Johnnie Jackson can't even rep 315 for 10/12 and can't squat 405 either for reps

Complete fraud

Branch is a lot stronger than him

I've seen Johnnie do bent rows with 405 for reps
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Bevo on April 27, 2016, 04:12:22 PM
I've seen Johnnie do bent rows with 405 for reps


Lol

Yes but have u seen him squat 4 plates or bench 3 with ease?  :D

For someone who claims worlds strongest bber all I am saying is he's a fraud, many many pros are stronger but don't go around claiming like he does
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2016, 04:33:38 PM

Lol

Yes but have u seen him squat 4 plates or bench 3 with ease?  :D

For someone who claims worlds strongest bber all I am saying is he's a fraud, many many pros are stronger but don't go around claiming like he does
His Legs are like twigs now. I think he did have a Bench off with Ben White, and JOJ won.
Dude got those thick pecs (Probably the best pecs today, and up there with the best of all time) from somewhere, it wasn't just his arm length.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Bevo on April 27, 2016, 06:31:41 PM
His Legs are like twigs now. I think he did have a Bench off with Ben White, and JOJ won.
Dude got those thick pecs (Probably the best pecs today, and up there with the best of all time) from somewhere, it wasn't just his arm length.

That might be true

I see him and branch train and branch is stronger than him in all lifts

Johnnie was struggling with 315 on the bench and 405 on squats, not that strength really matters in bbing but like I said, Johnnie is supposed to be the strongest bber  ;D
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 30, 2016, 09:02:11 AM
I would through Akim Williams into the mix with Dallas. He also deadlifts over 800 and squats 700 for reps.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Spike on April 30, 2016, 11:37:27 AM
I would through Akim Williams into the mix with Dallas. He also deadlifts over 800 and squats 700 for reps.


Yes


Rows 405 like its nothing too

Thick and a younger dude who has a little white girlfriend who gets plowed every night
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: jude2 on April 30, 2016, 03:03:16 PM
I would through Akim Williams into the mix with Dallas. He also deadlifts over 800 and squats 700 for reps.
Akim is very thick and strong.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: 6 Reps on June 01, 2016, 08:35:34 PM
Recent photo, great size:
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 01, 2016, 11:05:25 PM
Dallas has to be one of the strongest pro's of all time.


pffttttt we all know Johnnie Jackson is the strongest BB of all time  ::)

struggles with a 140 lbs flat bench and barely squats300 lbs
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 01, 2016, 11:10:25 PM
Recent photo, great size:

Mc Carver has the structure to be a future mr O

only risk is that he tears something with these heavy poundages
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: irishdave on June 02, 2016, 12:16:42 AM
you don't seem that much anymore, wow
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on June 02, 2016, 12:34:47 AM
That might be true

I see him and branch train and branch is stronger than him in all lifts

Johnnie was struggling with 315 on the bench and 405 on squats, not that strength really matters in bbing but like I said, Johnnie is supposed to be the strongest bber  ;D
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Stephano on June 02, 2016, 01:16:48 AM


Looks like he's really struggling with 275 on inclines there.  And on 225lb bench presses with a 30lb rubber band around the bar.  ???
 ???
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: 6 Reps on June 03, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Heavy lunges:
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: fredrollon on June 03, 2016, 08:40:40 AM
Recent photo, great size:

Really impressive size and shape.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: jude2 on June 03, 2016, 06:45:17 PM
Really impressive size and shape.
He appears to be one of the better new pros.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Bevo on June 03, 2016, 07:15:27 PM
Looks like he's really struggling with 275 on inclines there.  And on 225lb bench presses with a 30lb rubber band around the bar.  ???
 ???

Yep

Like I said I see this dude train often and for his size and claim he's not that "strong" compared to other pros, to the regular gym rat he's strong

There's some strong 212 guys like jose, guy, Aaron Clarke, flex Lewis,  etc

Aaron is squatting 585 for deep reps and inclines 405 with ease, full reps

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: bailey on June 03, 2016, 08:06:39 PM
Wow!!!! Just watched JOJ's Chest workout. Pathetic. You are kidding if he claims to be the strongest at anything!!!!!!! 2plates and a quarter on each side for an elite pro? The local gym rats are lifting more than that. And that's his best body part. His legs look like twigs. I'm just shocked at what I just watched. No wonder he places so low. Tier (4) if there is one. That was shameful. Not like he was saving himself either. He was going all out. Ronnie would use one hand on that shit. Not to mention Kevin Levrone's benches. Puts JOJ to shame. That really surprised me. That is an average gym rat lift. Ah, forget it. I'm sure I'll get flamed, but it's a fact, that was pathetic for someone claiming to be the strongest IFBB pro. An average gym rat lift. Can't believe he filmed that?
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: calfzilla on June 03, 2016, 08:13:57 PM
Wow!!!! Just watched JOJ's Chest workout. Pathetic. You are kidding if he claims to be the strongest at anything!!!!!!! 2plates and a quarter on each side for an elite pro? The local gym rats are lifting more than that. And that's his best body part. His legs look like twigs. I'm just shocked at what I just watched. No wonder he places so low. Tier (4) if there is one. That was shameful. Not like he was saving himself either. He was going all out. Ronnie would use one hand on that shit. Not to mention Kevin Levrone's benches. Puts JOJ to shame. That really surprised me. That is an average gym rat lift. Ah, forget it. I'm sure I'll get flamed, but it's a fact, that was pathetic for someone claiming to be the strongest IFBB pro. An average gym rat lift. Can't believe he filmed that?

Johnny is not pleased by your comments.

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: io856 on June 03, 2016, 10:44:54 PM
Have you guys considered that he doesn't go heavy ALL the time?
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 04, 2016, 12:35:46 AM
(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ronnie-coleman-progress-report-Fe-14-2016.jpg)


RDC approved.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Waller on June 04, 2016, 12:56:13 AM
(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ronnie-coleman-progress-report-Fe-14-2016.jpg)


RDC approved.

Sick wheels.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: calfzilla on June 04, 2016, 09:05:00 AM
(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ronnie-coleman-progress-report-Fe-14-2016.jpg)


RDC approved.

Wonder what the real anabolichalo thinks of this pictor
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: The Scott on June 04, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
Wonder what the real anabolichalo thinks of this Pictor
(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ronnie-coleman-progress-report-Fe-14-2016.jpg)

Well whattayah know.  Now shit can roll down and up hill.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: keanu on June 04, 2016, 09:19:27 AM
Johnny Jackson isn't resting much at all between sets so he is using lighter weights. It's pre-contest.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: The Scott on June 04, 2016, 09:22:44 AM
Dallas may be the strongest around today.  At least until either the drug connection or his kidneys run out of steam.  Living to pose isn't really living at all.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on June 04, 2016, 09:38:49 AM
ako williams does some heavy shit to!

7 plates in the squat and deadlift without belt kneewraps!
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 04, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
Someone said Dallas doesn't train hard, Parker said he lacks intensity.... lol, deadlifting like that is crazy intense and only someone who doesn't train hard himself would ever say that. What was it, 840 pound dead? Fucking hell, by a young pro bodybuilder! Parker should load that weight on a barbell and then attempt to lift one end! :D Today there are several pros doing crazy poundage on squats, deads and presses, doing lifts you rarely if ever saw by pros in the 60's, 70's and 80 and even later. It used to be Primo, Dbol and cable-crossovers and sissy squats, this is the age of mega-tren and Anadrol and powerlifting inspired training. :D

There are of course plenty of guys doing half-inspired shit as well. But there seems to be a trend towards real training these days.

As far as J Jackson's twig legs, his calves are twigs but the thighs carry plenty of mass, too bad he lacks the genetic sweeps.

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on June 04, 2016, 09:52:55 AM
Wow!!!! Just watched JOJ's Chest workout. Pathetic. You are kidding if he claims to be the strongest at anything!!!!!!! 2plates and a quarter on each side for an elite pro? The local gym rats are lifting more than that. And that's his best body part. His legs look like twigs. I'm just shocked at what I just watched. No wonder he places so low. Tier (4) if there is one. That was shameful. Not like he was saving himself either. He was going all out. Ronnie would use one hand on that shit. Not to mention Kevin Levrone's benches. Puts JOJ to shame. That really surprised me. That is an average gym rat lift. Ah, forget it. I'm sure I'll get flamed, but it's a fact, that was pathetic for someone claiming to be the strongest IFBB pro. An average gym rat lift. Can't believe he filmed that?
Here is some more. Maybe these will impress you, lol.


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Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Parker on June 04, 2016, 09:55:13 AM
Someone said Dallas doesn't train hard, Parker said he lacks intensity.... lol, deadlifting like that is crazy intense and only someone who doesn't train hard himself would ever say that. What was it, 840 pound dead? Fucking hell, by a young pro bodybuilder! Parker should load that weight on a barbell and then attempt to lift one end! :D Today there are several pros doing crazy poundage on squats, deads and presses, doing lifts you rarely if ever saw by pros in the 60's, 70's and 80 and even later. It used to be Primo, Dbol and cable-crossovers and sissy squats, this is the age of mega-tren and Anadrol and powerlifting inspired training. :D

There are of course plenty of guys doing half-inspired shit as well. But there seems to be a trend towards real training these days.

As far as J Jackson's twig legs, his calves are twigs but the thighs carry plenty of mass, too bad he lacks the genetic sweeps.


Ain't no Intensity like Ronnie Coleman intensity!! Besides, young Dallas will disappoint all you, just be prepared.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 04, 2016, 10:06:19 AM
Ain't no Intensity like Ronnie Coleman intensity!! Besides, young Dallas will disappoint all you, just be prepared.


Everyone has their own definition of intensity. Some pros have said maximum intensity is doing slow concentration curls with a 20lb dumbell, really mentally concentrating on the muscle, going from exercise to exercise with little rest, for a few hours straight. But then there is putting 500-800lbs on your back or on the floor... this will exhaust you in a whole different way. It requires a whole different mental intensity/aggression/attitude as well, because you can really hurt yourself bad.

Never said anything about Dallas' future, it remains to be seen how far he will go. As of now he has a ton of very hard, dense looking muscle.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Royalty on June 04, 2016, 12:06:59 PM
Everyone has their own definition of intensity. Some pros have said maximum intensity is doing slow concentration curls with a 20lb dumbell, really mentally concentrating on the muscle, going from exercise to exercise with little rest, for a few hours straight. But then there is putting 500-800lbs on your back or on the floor... this will exhaust you in a whole different way. It requires a whole different mental intensity/aggression/attitude as well, because you can really hurt yourself bad.

Never said anything about Dallas' future, it remains to be seen how far he will go. As of now he has a ton of very hard, dense looking muscle.

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Kwon on June 04, 2016, 12:58:51 PM


Mr Intensity

Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Bevo on June 04, 2016, 01:12:08 PM
Johnny Jackson isn't resting much at all between sets so he is using lighter weights. It's pre-contest.

So is branch and he's much stronger, stop making excuses for Johnnie, many other pros are stronger, I see both train all the time pre contest or off season he's still not even close to what he claims

If Johnnie never claimed the title of "strongest bber" I wouldn't have a problem
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: _bruce_ on June 04, 2016, 01:13:23 PM


More intense than a MOAB bomb going off during a Manowar concert  8)
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Marty Champions on June 05, 2016, 05:07:56 AM
And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?
:D
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: Leatherneck on June 05, 2016, 06:38:27 AM
Mr Intensity


Maddron's sheer intensity was his secret weapon, outside of his access to MuscleTech supplements.
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 09, 2016, 09:06:37 PM
So is branch and he's much stronger, stop making excuses for Johnnie, many other pros are stronger, I see both train all the time pre contest or off season he's still not even close to what he claims

If Johnnie never claimed the title of "strongest bber" I wouldn't have a problem

Johnie Jackson is a joke claiming Worlds strongest BB
u never saw  JOJ cahllenign Stan efferding, stan would CRUSH JOJ
JOJ struggles to rep with 300 lb squats
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: SF1900 on June 09, 2016, 09:28:19 PM
5 plates per side for 5 reps

https://www.instagram.com/p/BErCtCuzMTq/?taken-by=dallasmccarver&hl=en
Title: Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
Post by: The Scott on June 09, 2016, 09:31:37 PM
Maddron and "natural mesomorph" go together like boo and foo.