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Title: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 09:27:14 AM

Here's some example's.......

I base my decision based on Career Pro wins & standing's

I almost thought may they're should be a 4th Tier....but there has to be a cutoff some where.


1st Tier

Ronnie Coleman 
Jay Cutler
Gustavo Badell
Dexter Jackson
Gunter Schlierkamp
Victor Martinez 
Dennis James
Branch Warren 
Darrem Charles
Chris Cormier 
Lee Priest 
Marcus Ruhl



2nd Tier

Melvin Anthony
Mustafa Mohammad
Johnnie Jackson
George Farah
David Henry
Ahmad Haidar
Troy Alves
Kris Dim 
Ronnie Rockel
Pavol Jablonicky
Richard Jones   
Mark Dugdale   
Garrett Downing
Chris Cook
Vince Taylor

3rd Tier

Quincy Taylor 
Alexander Federov   
Tony Freeman
Shari 'King' Kamali
Capriese Murray
Bob Chicherillo
Jeroslav Horvath
Francisco 'Paco' Bautista
Art Atwood
Mike Sheridan
Heiko Kallbach
Jason Arntz

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: alexxx on March 22, 2006, 09:32:57 AM

If by tier you mean exposure and not the best physiques then you are pretty much on the money here!

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: brianX on March 22, 2006, 09:33:59 AM

Where would this guy be ranked?

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on March 22, 2006, 09:36:06 AM

1st Tier
Ronnie
Jay
Gustavo
Dexter
?Cormier?
Gunter

2nd tier
Dennis James
Branch Warren
Victor Martinez
Lee Priest
Dave Henry
Darrem
Dugdale
Ruhl
Haidar
Mustafa
Freeman
Quincy Taylor

3rd Tier
Everybody else

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 09:38:29 AM

Quote from: CAPTAIN MARVEL on March 22, 2006, 09:36:06 AM

1st Tier
Ronnie
Jay
Gustavo
Dexter
?Cormier?
Gunter

2nd tier
Dennis James
Branch Warren
Victor Martinez
Lee Priest
Dave Henry
Darrem
Dugdale
Ruhl
Haidar
Mustafa
Freeman
Quincy Taylor

3rd Tier
Everybody else

I would go with that list too....EXCEPT I feel Lee Priest & Markus Ruhl is a First Tier pro

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 22, 2006, 09:39:49 AM

I'd put Pavol in the top and dennis james in the 2nd. Pavol wins or places very high usually

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: monster triceps on March 22, 2006, 09:41:09 AM

Cormier a first tier pro, haha yeah right, good joke.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 09:43:53 AM

Can we all agree that Bob Chicherillo is a 3rd Tier pro?

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 09:58:41 AM

Quote from: SUBTRACTION on March 22, 2006, 09:45:53 AM

Here's how I'd define the tiers:

1st:  Usually top 10-12 at the Olympia, a threat to win nearly any show they enter.

2nd:  Usually good enough to snag an Olympia qualification, but will certainly place out of the top 10. They can win smaller shows, but only if no top-tier guys show up.

3rd:  The scrubs. Will not qualify for the Olympia, except by a fluke (i.e. 5th in an NOC nobody good shows up for - see "Kamali").  Never a threat to win any show.

I think this is good except a 2nd Tier Pro can place within the top 10 at the Olympia if he hit's his mark & a couple of 1st Tier Pros miss their mark completely.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: jaejonna on March 22, 2006, 10:13:53 AM

Tier 1
Ron
Jay
Dex
Cormier
Victor
Gutsavo
Gunter

Tier 2
Branch
Darrem
Lee
Melvin
Henry

Tier 3
Kamali
Freeman
Mustafa
Q Taylor

CellBlock 1
Titus
Bertil

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 22, 2006, 10:24:05 AM

Publicity wise/Ranking wise.


1st Tier

Ronnie Coleman 
Jay Cutler
Gustavo Badell
Dexter Jackson
Gunter Schlierkamp
Dennis James
Branch Warren 
Darrem Charles
Chris Cormier 
Lee Priest 
Marcus Ruhl
Johnnie Jackson



2nd Tier

Alexander Federov   
Mustafa Mohammad
Shari 'King' Kamali
Melvin Anthony
David Henry
Ahmad Haidar
Troy Alves
Kris Dim 
Ronnie Rockel

3rd Tier
Mark Dugdale 
Quincy Taylor 
Tony Freeman
Capriese Murray
Bob Chicherillo
Jeroslav Horvath
Francisco 'Paco' Bautista
Art Atwood
Mike Sheridan
Heiko Kallbach
Jason Arntz
Chris Cook
Vince Taylor
Pavol Jablonicky
Richard Jones   
Garrett Downing
George Farah
ect..ect..

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 22, 2006, 10:32:43 AM

federov is tier 3

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 22, 2006, 10:39:44 AM

Quote from: SUBTRACTION on March 22, 2006, 09:45:53 AM

3rd:  The scrubs. Will not qualify for the Olympia, except by a fluke (i.e. 5th in an NOC nobody good shows up for - see "Kamali").  Never a threat to win any show.

Johnny Moya from 1998 comes to mind - placed okay at the O tho

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: Rearden Metal on March 22, 2006, 10:48:13 AM

Vince Taylor has over 20 Pro wins, and isn't in the top tier on everyone's list? He just came in and tore the stage up at 49 yrs old.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: jaejonna on March 22, 2006, 10:56:36 AM

He was top five in the haney era.. i think he is top tier

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 11:20:44 AM

I placed him in the 2nd Tier.

He's been away for awhile

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: Rich2 on March 22, 2006, 11:30:11 AM

i also feel that lee priest and markus ruhl belong in the first tier.  and i would throw vince taylor on there too, b/c he has more than 20 professional wins i believe.  i think the only person who beats him in wins is ronnie coleman. 

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: body88 on March 22, 2006, 11:31:45 AM

1st tier if judged fairly

Ronnie
Cutler
Gunter
Gustavo
Charles
Freeman
Rockel
Dex
Vic
Comier

Second
Henry
James
Branch
Jones
Jackson
Melvin
Dugdale
Mustaffa
Priest
Haider
Ruhl

Third

Bob chic
Kamali
Titus
Fansworth
Dim
Federov
Taylor

4th tier

Kovaks



I put Lee and Ruhl in the second tier because any of the top tier guys should place ahead of them if they are 100 percent imo

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: onlyme on March 22, 2006, 12:54:09 PM

Is there a basement?  Or is that what the 3rd Tier is considered

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: pumpster on March 22, 2006, 01:11:10 PM

Bottom of the barrel, off the radar? Come to think of it..

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/synthol/

http://www.synthol.com/

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 22, 2006, 01:22:13 PM

Quote from: monster triceps on March 22, 2006, 09:41:09 AM

Cormier a first tier pro, haha yeah right, good joke.

did you just start following bodybuilding yesterday?

E

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: jaejonna on March 22, 2006, 01:41:15 PM

Quote from: monster triceps on March 22, 2006, 09:41:09 AM

Cormier a first tier pro, haha yeah right, good joke.

Definitely an idiot to think that one of the top five WINNINGEST pros EVER is not in the Top Tier... he had one bad show and still is considered top 5 OVERALL in most peoples eyes...

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: monster triceps on March 22, 2006, 01:49:02 PM

Currently Cormier is not a tier 1 pro, he had potential but wasted it.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 02:34:55 PM

Quote from: onlyme on March 22, 2006, 12:54:09 PM

Is there a basement?  Or is that what the 3rd Tier is considered

Starting from Bob Chick or Kamali & working your way backwards

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: onlyme on March 22, 2006, 03:59:19 PM

Thanks Kenny, so Jocelyn would be behind Chic.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 08:06:57 PM

Quote from: onlyme on March 22, 2006, 03:59:19 PM

Thanks Kenny, so Jocelyn would be behind Chic.

Actually Jocelyn would be in front of Chic.....


his career has been better than Bob's

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: DragonsBreath on March 22, 2006, 08:13:48 PM

Quote from: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 08:06:57 PM

Actually Jocelyn would be in front of Chic.....


his career has been better than Bob's

LMAO!!!

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: jianjohn24 on March 22, 2006, 08:17:25 PM

How the fuck is Ruhl a 1st tier pro, and Melvin Anthony not up there!? ???

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: adipo8 on March 23, 2006, 06:39:21 AM

Toney Freeman - is a top tier pro.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: rocket on March 23, 2006, 06:51:42 AM

Quote from: adipo8 on March 23, 2006, 06:39:21 AM

Toney Freeman - is a top tier pro.

To us,

Not to the judges though

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 23, 2006, 07:37:58 AM

kamali 4th tier
at best..
one bb who should be thankful for drugs..

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 23, 2006, 07:39:09 AM

Quote from: jianjohn24 on March 22, 2006, 08:17:25 PM

How the f**k is Ruhl a 1st tier pro, and Melvin Anthony not up there!? ???

If you make it in the Top 5 in the Olympia you're a 1st tier Pro.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: knny187 on March 23, 2006, 09:08:05 AM

I placed Melvin at the very top of my 2nd Tier choices.


I believe with a few more wins or top placements...he could become 1st tier.

Title: Re: 1st Tier - 2nd Tier - 3rd Tier Pro's - How would you rank them?
Post by: buffbodz on March 23, 2006, 09:32:24 AM

Quote from: knny187 on March 22, 2006, 09:27:14 AM

Here's some example's.......

I base my decision based on Career Pro wins & standing's

I almost thought may they're should be a 4th Tier....but there has to be a cutoff some where.


1st Tier

Ronnie Coleman 
Jay Cutler
Gustavo Badell
Dexter Jackson
Gunter Schlierkamp
Victor Martinez 
Dennis James
Branch Warren 
Darrem Charles
Chris Cormier 
Lee Priest 
Marcus Ruhl



2nd Tier

Melvin Anthony
Mustafa Mohammad
Johnnie Jackson
George Farah
David Henry
Ahmad Haidar
Troy Alves
Kris Dim 
Ronnie Rockel
Pavol Jablonicky
Richard Jones   
Mark Dugdale   
Garrett Downing
Chris Cook
Vince Taylor

3rd Tier

Quincy Taylor 
Alexander Federov   
Tony Freeman
Shari 'King' Kamali
Capriese Murray
Bob Chicherillo
Jeroslav Horvath
Francisco 'Paco' Bautista
Art Atwood
Mike Sheridan
Heiko Kallbach
Jason Arntz

Good choices, but bodybuilding being  subjective, you're always going to find somebody who thinks their fav should be a tier 1 or somebody you've ranked at 3 should be 2, but all in all I agree with most.