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Title: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 02, 2016, 03:22:28 PM
i am no expert but you need to test all of your single wires and make sure no single wire is over 20 amps on a 12 gauge wire!

would you beleive that is not the only test?
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 02, 2016, 03:23:26 PM
Double tap all of them is the way to go.
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 02, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
Double tap all of them is the way to go.
explain what u mean?
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: _aj_ on May 02, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
Double tap all of them is the way to go.

Mozambique is the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Kwon on May 02, 2016, 03:54:33 PM
Just reverse the polarity
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: wes on May 02, 2016, 07:22:52 PM
Was just thinking about this subject just this afternoon.
::)
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Spike on May 02, 2016, 07:33:31 PM
Last time I checked the flux capacatator the bibber line was zapped to junction box


Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 02, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
I'm no expert but don't the breakers ensure that no wire carries more than 20 amps?
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: MP on May 02, 2016, 08:18:00 PM
Need to munch on some grass clippings and ponder what this is all about.
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: polychronopolous on May 02, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Last time I checked the flux capacatator the bibber line was zapped to junction box




Yeah that's what I was thinking too
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 02, 2016, 09:20:19 PM
I'm no expert but don't the breakers ensure that no wire carries more than 20 amps?

Unless, of course, you have your generator set up to back feed.
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Howard on May 03, 2016, 06:03:52 AM
I'm no expert but don't the breakers ensure that no wire carries more than 20 amps?

Depends on the switch rating.
Most are 15 - 20 amps.

When a power surge occurs , the excess electrical energy gets converted to heat due to "electrical friction"*.
*The amount of electricity exceeds the capacity to flow safely on that circuit.

The heat causes the spring in the circuit breaker to expand and "pop"
This opens the breaker switch and stops the flow of electricity on that circuit.

remember , volts x current = watts of electrical power on the line.

Typical USA power line is 120 Volts AC x 20 amps of current =  2400 watts max per line
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 03, 2016, 06:18:33 AM
I'm no expert but don't the breakers ensure that no wire carries more than 20 amps?
neutral return wire may carry over 20 amps if u have phase imbalance wich may short the neutral or burn your house down

this is not incoming power from the transformer this is power after its left your appliance returning to neutral bus bar
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 03, 2016, 06:21:06 AM
Depends on the switch rating.
Most are 15 - 20 amps.

When a power surge occurs , the excess electrical energy gets converted to heat due to "electrical friction"*.
*The amount of electricity exceeds the capacity to flow safely on that circuit.

The heat causes the spring in the circuit breaker to expand and "pop"
This opens the breaker switch and stops the flow of electricity on that circuit.

remember , volts x current = watts of electrical power on the line.

Typical USA power line is 120 Volts AC x 20 amps of current =  2400 watts max per line
read my previous post

circuit breakers handle incoming power

not return power
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 03, 2016, 07:53:17 AM
neutral return wire may carry over 20 amps if u have phase imbalance wich may short the neutral or burn your house down

this is not incoming power from the transformer this is power after its left your appliance returning to neutral bus bar

Wouldn't there be less coming out than going in because the appliance sucked it up? 
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: SilverSpoon on May 03, 2016, 08:06:52 AM
First, I installed a set of 30 weight ball bearings to fix the bypass line.
Then, I checked the fetzer valve and prepared that it with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And then I used 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Explorerspl on May 03, 2016, 08:11:15 AM
First, I installed a set of 30 weight ball bearings to fix the bypass line.
Then, I checked the fetzer valve and prepared that it with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And then I used 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

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Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Yamcha on May 03, 2016, 08:35:56 AM
This thread is much better when accompanied by this:

Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Howard on May 03, 2016, 09:36:07 AM
read my previous post

circuit breakers handle incoming power

not return power

No shit Tesla.
Obviously a "power surge" comes from the power SOURCE.
The electrical device doesn't supply it's own internal power LOL
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 03, 2016, 09:55:41 AM
I thought I trusted them but now after reading this thread I'm afraid my circuit box is a ticking timebomb.
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Taffin on May 03, 2016, 10:05:41 AM
Just reverse the polarity

 :D

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Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 03, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
Don't cross the streams
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 03, 2016, 09:09:06 PM
No shit Tesla.
Obviously a "power surge" comes from the power SOURCE.
The electrical device doesn't supply it's own internal power LOL
wrong howard

say on a 120v 20amp switch feeding a circuit with a toaster, vaccum cleaner and hair dryer runniing at the sametime . there maybe only 9 amps on the black wire (hot) but 21 amps on the white wire/return wire  (also hot) going to the neutral ground bus bar wich can burn your house down

this is happening because of a phase imbalance and actually electricity is wasted also . we consume power yes but all the time there is power leaving the device in normal conditions via white (hot)  wire that is connected to the neutral ground bus bar wich is connected to earth wich is connected to bare wire from power pole by street

power that leaves your device like a toaster , vaccum ect via the white wire is testable with one of those clamp multimeters .  you can measure how many amps being lost...

now heres the conspiracy im pretty sure those "lost amps" are picked up somehow and being resold to us. the power company is not going to let all those return line amps go to waste
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: robcguns on May 04, 2016, 12:49:42 PM
How the fuck do you all know so much about electricity?
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 04, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
How the fuck do you all know so much about electricity?

Trial & error!
Title: Re: do u trust your wires in your circuit breaker box are phase balanced?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 04, 2016, 08:07:28 PM
Trial & error!
and checking every little detail as the grammar police do that swing by here every so often