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Title: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: SF1900 on May 07, 2016, 10:55:31 PM
https://www.auanet.org/university/abstract_detail.cfm?id=MP47-17&meetingID=16SAN

Sources of Funding: AWP is a National Institutes of Health (NIH) K12 Scholar supported by a Male Reproductive Health Research Career (MRHR) Development Physician-Scientist Award (HD073917-01) from the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) Program (to Dolores J. Lamb).

Introduction

Professional male bodybuilders use high-dose testosterone and other performance enhancing drugs to improve athletic performance. These anabolic agents are potentially associated with negative sequelae including hyperlipidemia, cardiovascular effects, and possible liver damage. We sought to determine if the use of high-dose testosterone and other performance enhancing drugs could be linked to a higher mortality rate when compared to the general population.

Methods

An initial cohort of all 1,578 professional male bodybuilders who competed between 1948-2014 was identified, and complete mortality data were obtained for 597. This cohort was identified via competition listings and bodybuilding websites. Proof of life or death was compiled using data from public records, competition listings, bodybuilding websites, and social media venues. Mortality rates among bodybuilders were compared with CDC mortality rates for an age-matched male population.

Results

The mean age within the study cohort was 47.5 years (range 25.0-81.7) and mean age during competitive years was 24.6 years (range 18-47). Of the 597 bodybuilders with mortality data, 58 (9.7%) were reported dead and 539 living. Only 40 deaths were expected in this population based on age-matched data, yielding a standardized mortality rate (95% confidence interval) of 1.34 (1.10-1.88) for these competitors, which is higher than in the general population. The mean age of death was 47.7 years (range 26.6-75.4), and no significant difference in mortality rates was observed above the age of 50 (Figure 1).

Conclusions

Mortality rates of bodybuilders within the cohort were 34% higher than those in an age-matched general U.S. male population. The cause of this increased mortality is currently unclear, but supports the possibility that the use of performance enhancing drugs and the unique competitive training (e.g. extreme weight changes) may contribute to deaths among younger professional bodybuilders. Current work is focused on determining cause of death by linkage to the National Death Index.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: da_vinci on May 08, 2016, 01:45:07 AM
Not as bad as one would expect tbh, given the amounts of various substances they are on for decades..
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: denarii on May 08, 2016, 03:28:54 AM
so only start juicing at 50?

what about a psychology study to see the long term impact of G4P work?
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on May 08, 2016, 05:43:12 AM
Did they control for correlation? Like why is it that men with pre-existing heart and kidney conditions gravitate to bodybuilding?

 :D
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 08, 2016, 06:32:27 AM
Not as bad as one would expect tbh, given the amounts of various substances they are on for decades..

Mean age of death 47.7 years  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: Raymondo on May 08, 2016, 06:37:28 AM
Not as bad as one would expect tbh, given the amounts of various substances they are on for decades..

A 34% chance of dying is "not bad considering"?

That's one in three chances that professional bodybuilding will kill someone prematurely.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: Never1AShow on May 08, 2016, 06:51:33 AM
A 34% chance of dying is "not bad considering"?

That's one in three chances that professional bodybuilding will kill someone prematurely.

It is very unlikely to die before 50.  Being a pro and taking massive amounts of drugs only increased that by 34 percent.

This study should not get out.  The math will encourage kids to take massive doses of steroids.  6 percent of men die before 50 kid, take huge amounts of raids and that chance only increases to 9.7 percent.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on May 08, 2016, 07:05:49 AM
It is very unlikely to die before 50.  Being a pro and taking massive amounts of drugs only increased that by 34 percent.

This study should not get out.  The math will encourage kids to take massive doses of steroids.  6 percent of men die before 50 kid, take huge amounts of raids and that chance only increases to 9.7 percent.

And if you make it to 50, there's no difference! Team Blasting Old Fuck checking in!
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: calfzilla on May 08, 2016, 08:05:00 AM
Do they factor in quality of life or just longevity because I bet being jacked and getting all the girls is worth shaving off a few years.  :D
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on May 08, 2016, 08:22:48 AM
Do they factor in quality of life or just longevity because I bet being jacked and getting all the girls is worth shaving off a few years.  :D

If they normalized age with quality of life, bodybuilders would live to be 200 years old.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: el numero uno on May 08, 2016, 08:31:16 AM
https://www.auanet.org/university/abstract_detail.cfm?id=MP47-17&meetingID=16SAN

Sources of Funding: AWP is a National Institutes of Health (NIH) K12 Scholar supported by a Male Reproductive Health Research Career (MRHR) Development Physician-Scientist Award (HD073917-01) from the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) Program (to Dolores J. Lamb).

Introduction

Professional male bodybuilders use high-dose testosterone and other performance enhancing drugs to improve athletic performance. These anabolic agents are potentially associated with negative sequelae including hyperlipidemia, cardiovascular effects, and possible liver damage. We sought to determine if the use of high-dose testosterone and other performance enhancing drugs could be linked to a higher mortality rate when compared to the general population.

Methods

An initial cohort of all 1,578 professional male bodybuilders who competed between 1948-2014 was identified, and complete mortality data were obtained for 597. This cohort was identified via competition listings and bodybuilding websites. Proof of life or death was compiled using data from public records, competition listings, bodybuilding websites, and social media venues. Mortality rates among bodybuilders were compared with CDC mortality rates for an age-matched male population.

Results

The mean age within the study cohort was 47.5 years (range 25.0-81.7) and mean age during competitive years was 24.6 years (range 18-47). Of the 597 bodybuilders with mortality data, 58 (9.7%) were reported dead and 539 living. Only 40 deaths were expected in this population based on age-matched data, yielding a standardized mortality rate (95% confidence interval) of 1.34 (1.10-1.88) for these competitors, which is higher than in the general population. The mean age of death was 47.7 years (range 26.6-75.4), and no significant difference in mortality rates was observed above the age of 50 (Figure 1).

Conclusions

Mortality rates of bodybuilders within the cohort were 34% higher than those in an age-matched general U.S. male population. The cause of this increased mortality is currently unclear, but supports the possibility that the use of performance enhancing drugs and the unique competitive training (e.g. extreme weight changes) may contribute to deaths among younger professional bodybuilders. Current work is focused on determining cause of death by linkage to the National Death Index.

 :D :D :D

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Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: el numero uno on May 08, 2016, 08:34:59 AM
All joking aside, they are comparing pros to people from the general population.

It would be interesting to compare pro bodybuilders to people who do sports, eat healthy, live stress-free but stay natural. Basically, the same lifestyle of a bodybuilder minus the drug use. I bet the difference is HUGE.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: SF1900 on May 08, 2016, 08:49:55 AM
:D :D :D

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It was bound to happen to me  :'( :'(

Nonetheless, this needs to be a wakeup call for ALL getbiggers!!
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on May 08, 2016, 08:53:35 AM
Nonetheless, this needs to be a wakeup call for ALL getbiggers!!

Unless that wake up call is to hop on TRT at a minimum, methinks you are misreading the statistics. According to the Getbig deadpoolologists, BB is a guaranteed death sentence. This refutes that. Juice for everybody!
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: Schnauzer on May 08, 2016, 09:12:49 AM
A 34% chance of dying is "not bad considering"?

That's one in three chances that professional bodybuilding will kill someone prematurely.


That's two in three chances that professional bodybuilding will not kill someone prematurely.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: SF1900 on May 08, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Unless that wake up call is to hop on TRT at a minimum, methinks you are misreading the statistics. According to the Getbig deadpoolologists, BB is a guaranteed death sentence. This refutes that. Juice for everybody!

Thank you, bible boy. I know how to read statistics. I've taken multiple stats courses.

It's called a joke.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2016, 09:20:30 AM
Did they control for correlation? Like why is it that men with pre-existing heart and kidney conditions gravitate to bodybuilding?

 :D

 :D
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on May 08, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Thank you, bible boy. I know how to read statistics. I've taken multiple stats courses.

It's called a joke.

 ::)

Forgot the sarcasm smiley, did you. Abraham Lincoln shot boy.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: SF1900 on May 08, 2016, 09:25:02 AM

That's two in three chances that professional bodybuilding will not kill someone prematurely.

We need to have a getbig intervention. CSWOL can take the helm.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: calfzilla on May 08, 2016, 11:07:28 AM
If they normalized age with quality of life, bodybuilders would live to be 200 years old.


 :o
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: Army of One on May 08, 2016, 11:16:01 AM
Blaha obviously read this post and just uploaded this video

Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: MAXX on May 08, 2016, 11:18:38 AM
wow! shocker
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: BlackMetallic on May 08, 2016, 11:30:28 AM
Those mortality rates are all due to pre-existing conditions
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: da_vinci on May 09, 2016, 02:09:26 AM
A 34% chance of dying is "not bad considering"?

That's one in three chances that professional bodybuilding will kill someone prematurely.

Considering the sheer amount of various steroids, peptides, ancilaries, narcotics and god know what else these guys are on for decades non stop it is a very good outcome, very good. Streoids obviously are far from the danger they are told to be. You'd be dead from multiple other "innocent" substances if used in these amounts in a far shorter time. I guess most doesn't realize the amounts one takes to become a "pro", ridiculous amounts in ridiculous mixes.
 Golden era guys are best example of "simpler" protocol oucome, most are still alive, many of them are still jacked well into their 60-70s.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: Raymondo on May 09, 2016, 04:23:34 AM
Considering the sheer amount of various steroids, peptides, ancilaries, narcotics and god know what else these guys are on for decades non stop it is a very good outcome, very good. Streoids obviously are far from the danger they are told to be. You'd be dead from multiple other "innocent" substances if used in these amounts in a far shorter time. I guess most doesn't realize the amounts one takes to become a "pro", ridiculous amounts in ridiculous mixes.
 Golden era guys are best example of "simpler" protocol oucome, most are still alive, many of them are still jacked well into their 60-70s.

"Golden era guys" are included as well, the study is from 1948 to 2014.
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: da_vinci on May 09, 2016, 04:31:21 AM
"Golden era guys" are included as well, the study is from 1948 to 2014.

How much of the deaths accounts the "peptide" era bb'ers tho'? It'd be interesting to see a lot more detailed study on this, too bad it's considered "unethical" so they usualy only do meta analysis like this one. The ridiculous shit some bb'ers I know are doing blows my mind.. Steroids is just a relatively small part of the "regimen". I'm VERY surprised they aren't dropping like flyes. Another thing that surprises me is that cancer isn't all that common among bb'ers at all, given al the growth factors being introcuded constantly. So much still to figure out about the inner workings of a body..
Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: _aj_ on May 09, 2016, 04:38:32 AM
I just check these studies for confirmation bias towards my chosen course. Check!

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Title: Re: Rates of Mortality Are Higher Among Professional Male Bodybuilders
Post by: da_vinci on May 09, 2016, 05:05:42 AM
I just check these studies for confirmation bias towards my chosen course. Check!

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