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Title: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 09:26:22 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/05/10/is-nasa-about-to-announce-that-aliens-exist/

NASA is poised to reveal Tuesday new details about the hunt for life — intelligent or otherwise — in the cosmos.

The space agency so far has been tight-lipped about what scientists will reveal at a 1 p.m. media briefing about the planet-hunting Kepler space telescope’s latest discoveries.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 10, 2016, 09:30:50 AM
If their gravity is much stronger than ours, they're probably gonna call us twinks. Just saying.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Nails on May 10, 2016, 09:32:39 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Hulkotron on May 10, 2016, 09:34:40 AM
Will surely center on Nibiru and the Grey Alien
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 09:35:16 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 10, 2016, 09:35:24 AM
On Mars we would all be squatting 500+ !!!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Hulkotron on May 10, 2016, 09:37:44 AM
On Mars we would all be squatting 500+ !!!

Method101 might struggle still
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Howard on May 10, 2016, 09:40:27 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/05/10/is-nasa-about-to-announce-that-aliens-exist/

NASA is poised to reveal Tuesday new details about the hunt for life — intelligent or otherwise — in the cosmos.

The space agency so far has been tight-lipped about what scientists will reveal at a 1 p.m. media briefing about the planet-hunting Kepler space telescope’s latest discoveries.

NASA turned their latest telescope around to hunt for new forms of life right here on earth.
Recently a new mutant strain of freak human hybrid was spotted in an IFBB contest venue near Disneyworld in Orlando.
Sadly , they finally concluded it wasn't an intelligent form of life .
The search continues...
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
forked tongued bastards lie about everything. They are not be trusted.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 09:54:51 AM
forked tongued bastards lie about everything. They are not be trusted.

Wiggs if planets are flat how will we know if they are looking at the top or bottom when they aim the telescope?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 10, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
They'll announce some microorganism or some bullshit that's 1000 billion light years away.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: WannaBePro on May 10, 2016, 09:57:18 AM
They'll announce some microorganism or some bullshit that's 1000 billion light years away.

Which is life....
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 09:57:30 AM
Wiggs if planets are flat how will we know if they are looking at the top or bottom when they aim the telescope?

"Planets" are wandering stars. And they're not light years away. They're thousands of miles away.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 09:59:01 AM
"Planets" are wandering stars. And they're not light years away. They're thousands of miles away.

 :o :o :o

Tell me more!

Does earth wander around following the sun?  ???
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 10, 2016, 09:59:39 AM
"Planets" are wandering stars. And they're not light years away. They're thousands of miles away.

haha, so the telescopes we use are all a lie?  Is there a veil covering the planets from us to see?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: WannaBePro on May 10, 2016, 10:00:56 AM
:o :o :o

Tell me more!

Does earth wander around following the sun?  ???

I think he means what planets were thought to be before we classified them as "planets." They were called Wandering stars because they didn't follow the trajectory of the rest of the stars in the night sky. They seemed to "wander" instead of follow the rest.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2016, 10:03:54 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/05/10/is-nasa-about-to-announce-that-aliens-exist/

NASA is poised to reveal Tuesday new details about the hunt for life — intelligent or otherwise — in the cosmos.

The space agency so far has been tight-lipped about what scientists will reveal at a 1 p.m. media briefing about the planet-hunting Kepler space telescope’s latest discoveries.
They have known this for years... :)
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 10:07:23 AM
:o :o :o

Tell me more!

Does earth wander around following the sun?  ???

I really dont have time to entertain you the way you'd like me to today. I can feel your sarcasm and patron-ism through my screen. Anyhow, the sun rotates around the earth not otherway we've been lied about.  In addition, the moon is a self illuminating disk, the light from the moon comes from the moon, not the sun.  That is a lie. 
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 10:09:52 AM
I really dont have time to entertain you the way you'd like me to today. I can feel your sarcasm and patron-ism through my screen. Anyhow, the sun rotates around the earth not otherway we've been lied about.  In addition, the moon is a self illuminating disk, the light from the moon comes from the moon, not the sun.  That is a lie.  
 

I'm not be sarcastic or trying to patronize you, just in search of knowledge!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 10, 2016, 10:10:49 AM
I really dont have time to entertain you the way you'd like me to today. I can feel your sarcasm and patron-ism through my screen. Anyhow, the sun rotates around the earth not otherway we've been lied about.  In addition, the moon is a self illuminating disk, the light from the moon comes from the moon, not the sun.  That is a lie. 

Disk as in flat?  If it's flat how does it self illuminate?  Is it man made?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: BB on May 10, 2016, 10:11:57 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Nails on May 10, 2016, 10:13:35 AM
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Straw Man on May 10, 2016, 10:14:40 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Yamcha on May 10, 2016, 10:15:01 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 10:16:19 AM
 

I'm not be sarcastic or trying to patronize you, just in search of knowledge!

The earth truly is flat and we live in a dome. It's like almost like a snow globe. Once again the Bible was right.  Ya know I used to laugh at people that thought this.  It seemed so unfathomable I never addressed.  Then I actually took a look at it and used SCIENCE and it proved to be true. The earth is indeed flat or concave.

Gravity does not exist.  Gravity is a theory and theory that will never be proven as fact. Gravity needs to exist in order for the heliocentric theory to be true.
"Gravity" is actually an object more dense than the air around it then it falls. If you and make an object lighter then the air around it, it floats.  That in a nutshell is "gravity".  It's a farce.

The earth does not spin.  It's immovable. The sun and the moon rotate to give light. The earth is on four pillars and doesn't move.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 10:17:20 AM
haha, so the telescopes we use are all a lie?  Is there a veil covering the planets from us to see?

I don't understand what you mean.  What do you see in your telescope that's would be a lie?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Twaddle on May 10, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 10:22:08 AM
Disk as in flat?  If it's flat how does it self illuminate?  Is it man made?

Don't know yet, haven't seen the other side of the moon. No, The God that you don't believe in created everything.  God made the moon and sun and everything else as told in the book of Genesis.
We don't understand how it's illuminated. But it's not illuminated by the sun. That is a lie and a bad one. it makes no sense. 
Also, the tides don't control the ocean.  That's a lie.  The waters of the deep control the tides. If the moon controls the tides of the ocean, then why aren't the lakes, rivers, seas and all smaller bodies of waters affected but the largest bodies of water are?  It doesn't make sense.  That is a lie.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 10:28:37 AM
The earth truly is flat and we live in a dome. It's like almost like a snow globe. Once again the Bible was right.  Ya know I used to laugh at people that thought this.  It seemed so unfathomable I never addressed.  Then I actually took a look at it and used SCIENCE and it proved to be true. The earth is indeed flat or concave.

Gravity does not exist.  Gravity is a theory and theory that will never be proven as fact. Gravity needs to exist in order for the heliocentric theory to be true.
"Gravity" is actually an object more dense than the air around it then it falls. If you and make an object lighter then the air around it, it floats.  That in a nutshell is "gravity".  It's a farce.

The earth does not spin.  It's immovable. The sun and the moon rotate to give light. The earth is on four pillars and doesn't move.

Thanks for the info my Hebronic brother from another
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Twaddle on May 10, 2016, 10:30:15 AM
Don't know yet, haven't seen the other side of the moon. No, The God that you don't believe in created everything.  God made the moon and sun and everything else as told in the book of Genesis.
We don't understand how it's illuminated. But it's not illuminated by the sun. That is a lie and a bad one. it makes no sense. 
Also, the tides don't control the ocean.  That's a lie.  The waters of the deep control the tides. If the moon controls the tides of the ocean, then why aren't the lakes, rivers, seas and all smaller bodies of waters affected but the largest bodies of water are?  It doesn't make sense.  That is a lie.


Ummmm, lakes and ponds do have tidal effects.  They're are just very small in comparison to the major oceans.  The great lakes have tides of up to 2".  Not sure where why you think the tides only effect the oceans.    ???
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 10:32:36 AM
Ummmm, lakes and ponds do have tidal effects.  They're are just very small in comparison to the major oceans.  The great lakes have tides of up to 2".  Not sure where why you think the tides only effect the oceans.    ???

The effects should be greater on the smaller bodies of water.  Yet, the effects are greater on the larger bodies of water.  Should be opposite.  It's not even comparable. You have no proof it's the moon causing these effects.  That is a guess or a lie.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 10:34:19 AM
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Yes...YES!!!!!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Da Freak on May 10, 2016, 10:37:01 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasas-kepler-mission-announces-largest-collection-of-planets-ever-discovered (http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasas-kepler-mission-announces-largest-collection-of-planets-ever-discovered)
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2016, 10:40:00 AM
we are not alone :) Think about it.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 10, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasas-kepler-mission-announces-largest-collection-of-planets-ever-discovered (http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasas-kepler-mission-announces-largest-collection-of-planets-ever-discovered)

Boring as fuck.  Thanks NASA.  Now they can spend time arguing what to name the new 1200 planets.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2016, 10:42:02 AM
Boring as fuck.  Thanks NASA.  Now they can spend time arguing what to name the new 1200 planets.
we are children starting to learn.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Twaddle on May 10, 2016, 10:44:52 AM
The effects should be greater on the smaller bodies of water.  Yet, the effects are greater on the larger bodies of water.  Should be opposite.  It's not even comparable. You have no proof it's the moon causing these effects.  That is a guess or a lie.

 :-\

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 10, 2016, 10:48:43 AM
The earth does not spin.  It's immovable. The sun and the moon rotate to give light. The earth is on four pillars and doesn't move.

Dear Wiggs, I rarely step outside bodybuilding related subjects (i.e. politics, religion, etc.) as what do I know, right!?  But I respectfully ask a few questions here if I may about comment/world view that I genuinely would be interested in hearing the answer to:

- what do the four pillars that the Earth stands on, stand on themselves?
- are the oceans all around infinite in all directions?
- is there life in those surrounding oceans?
- you mentioned that you used science to draw your conclusions - what science do you mean?

As I say, these are genuine questions, I'm not trolling, so I hope you can find the time to answer - thank in advance  :)
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Grape Ape on May 10, 2016, 10:56:19 AM
In addition, the moon is a self illuminating disk, the light from the moon comes from the moon, not the sun.  That is a lie.  

Figures.

A lot of us here have never trusted the moon, and always thought it was full shit, sittin' up there all smug, eyeballin' everyone....
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 11:20:46 AM
:-\



Degrasse Tyson is a frontman, just like Obama. They wheeled out a smooth talkin' Negro that made science cool and he's helped to continue to fool people.  He's an asshole.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: _aj_ on May 10, 2016, 11:34:18 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 10, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
Classic!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 10, 2016, 11:53:12 AM
Degrasse Tyson is a frontman, just like Obama. They wheeled out a smooth talkin' Negro that made science cool and he's helped to continue to fool people.  He's an asshole.

Totally agree
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 10, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
Gotta love flat-earthers!!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 10, 2016, 12:30:21 PM
Gotta love flat-earthers!!


Not flat but domed with walls.  Scary thought though is I once flew around the world.  How did the pilot trick me? Did he do a big U-turn at the edge of the world?  Are all pilots in on this secret?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 10, 2016, 12:35:50 PM
Not flat but domed with walls.  Scary thought though is I once flew around the world.  How did the pilot trick me? Did he do a big U-turn at the edge of the world?  Are all pilots in on this secret?

It was an illusion created by the white man to fool you, EDB. You never left home.

The internet, you, me, everything is an illusion to protect our egos from shattering upon revelation of the Original Hebrew clan.

My typing, your reading, none of it is even real.

Even this  :) is fake!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: doison on May 10, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
The effects should be greater on the smaller bodies of water.  Yet, the effects are greater on the larger bodies of water.  Should be opposite.  It's not even comparable. You have no proof it's the moon causing these effects.  That is a guess or a lie.


This is absolutely false.  The effect should not be greater on smaller bodies of water
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 10, 2016, 01:16:10 PM
Wiggs there is medication for what ails you. Please take it before you eat someone's face because you thought it was chicken sandwich. 
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: SuperTed on May 10, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
Will surely center on Nibiru and the Grey Alien

x2
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 02:21:20 PM
lol "nasa" and alienists ::)

yeah, there's our saviour, it must be true when "nasa" says it. Surely nasa won't modify any and all goodly information



Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Brianthehulk on May 10, 2016, 03:51:16 PM
It was an illusion created by the white man to fool you, EDB. You never left home.

The internet, you, me, everything is an illusion to protect our egos from shattering upon revelation of the Original Hebrew clan.

My typing, your reading, none of it is even real.

Even this  :) is fake!
so we do live in the Matrix?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 04:13:59 PM
VERY interesting video on flat earth. I thought the theory was laughable but after digging in it's hard to refuse logic

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 04:23:51 PM
VERY interesting video on flat earth. I thought the theory was laughable but after digging in it's hard to refuse logic



It's because it's true emo. I used to laugh at it as well. Until for whatever reason last year I looked into it to debunk it and I ended up debunking globe earth. I didn't tell anyone for a while because I thought it was crazy. Truth is we've all been had. 

The question is why would they lie to us? Easy...To cast doubt that there is a God. Then you can control the minds of the masses and make up shit like evolution and big bang.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 10, 2016, 04:25:46 PM
Wiggs there is medication for what ails you. Please take it before you eat someone's face because you thought it was chicken sandwich. 

No medication will cure chronic stupidity
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 10, 2016, 04:37:20 PM
I love it how stupid people who are incapable to comprehend a real science create their own "science".
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 04:42:44 PM
It's because it's true emo. I used to laugh at it as well. Until for whatever reason last year I looked into it to debunk it and I ended up debunking globe earth. I didn't tell anyone for a while because I thought it was crazy. Truth is we've all been had.  

The question is why would they lie to us? Easy...To cast doubt that there is a God. Then you can control the minds of the masses and make up shit like evolution and big bang.

I'm an emo, sayeth the black hitler drinking whiskey in a bar in las vegas, watching a basketball game, preaching the word of black bible. Seems legit.

I agree with you what you said there regarding casting doubt that there is a god the creator and the video explains it. Without the globe model, the big bang model wouldn't be considered, without the big bang model, the theory of evolution wouldn't be on the table, without the theory of evolution, extraterrestrials seeding mankind is over, without all these lies people start thinking about the creator, who we are, where we come from.

Well, great, the earth is flat then. Well, lets just say that there is more evidence on flat earth than there is of the spheric model. There are also no authentic pictures where there's a crystal clear picture of our earth all alone. I shall post a picture of my abs if anyone can find a picture of earth that wasn't modified/photoshopped at all
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 10, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
I'm an emo, sayeth the black hitler drinking whiskey in a bar in las vegas, watching a basketball game, preaching the word of black bible. Seems legit.

I agree with you what you said there regarding casting doubt that there is a god the creator and the video explains it. Without the globe model, the big bang model wouldn't be considered, without the big bang model, the theory of evolution wouldn't be on the table, without the theory of evolution, extraterrestrials seeding mankind is over, without all these lies people start thinking about the creator, who we are, where we come from.

Well, great, the earth is flat then. Well, lets just say that there is more evidence on flat earth than there is of the spheric model. There are also no authentic pictures where there's a crystal clear picture of our earth all alone.

Who created the creator tho'?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 04:49:19 PM
Who created the creator tho'?

When was nothing and what was before nothing?

These are questions noone can answer with certainty I think, we are all believers, but all in all there is now more evidence in gods favor than in coincidenses favor. LOL I mean even science tells us that there is an even greater power than science, how about that...

But like I said, I can't answer when was nothing, who created the creator. Who said anyone created the creator, because god goes beyond humans brain capabilities.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 10, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
When was nothing and what was before nothing?

These are questions noone can answer with certainty I think, we are all believers, but all in all there is now more evidence in gods favor than in coincidenses favor. LOL I mean even science tells us that there is an even greater power than science, how about that...

But like I said, I can't answer when was nothing, who created the creator. Who said anyone created the creator, because god goes beyond humans brain capabilities.

Why do you assume there was "nothing"? Maybe existence doesn't need to be created at all, it just is? Without any purpose, any meaning, any "goal", just simply.... exists..
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
Why do you assume there was "nothing"? Maybe existence doesn't need to be created at all, it just is? Without any purpose, any meaning, any "goal", just simply.... exists..

yeah and it doesn't make any sense at all neither if you try to make sense of it. How can you say an apple merely existed when you go grocery shopping. Obviously it was taken from a tree that grew from the ground up from a seed and that seed... well you get the point. There always was something before something else and it goes all the way back to the point where someone created it all in the first place.

And you can also say "what if god simply existed always, just existed", and it makes as less sense as your above theory so we're both in the blind here when it comes to that.

I mean, I'm not theorizing what I want to believe, but what makes sense, there shouldn't be any bias thinking if you want truth.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2016, 05:04:11 PM
I'm an emo, sayeth the black hitler drinking whiskey in a bar in las vegas, watching a basketball game, preaching the word of black bible. Seems legit.

I agree with you what you said there regarding casting doubt that there is a god the creator and the video explains it. Without the globe model, the big bang model wouldn't be considered, without the big bang model, the theory of evolution wouldn't be on the table, without the theory of evolution, extraterrestrials seeding mankind is over, without all these lies people start thinking about the creator, who we are, where we come from.

Well, great, the earth is flat then. Well, lets just say that there is more evidence on flat earth than there is of the spheric model. There are also no authentic pictures where there's a crystal clear picture of our earth all alone. I shall post a picture of my abs if anyone can find a picture of earth that wasn't modified/photoshopped at all

It all starts with one lie and a bunch of smaller lies are added to support the bigger lies.  We've been living in a fake reality.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 05:10:23 PM
oh yeah and da vinci, one other question would be fun to entertain with, why the fuck did god create this mmorpg called life? I don't know that neither... man I don't know many things, when it comes to the core of existance, neither do you. But so what.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 10, 2016, 05:14:01 PM
yeah and it doesn't make any sense at all neither if you try to make sense of it. How can you say an apple merely existed when you go grocery shopping. Obviously it was taken from a tree that grew from the ground up from a seed and that seed... well you get the point. There always was something before something else and it goes all the way back to the point where someone created it all in the first place.

And you can also say "what if god simply existed always, just existed", and it makes as less sense as your above theory so we're both in the blind here when it comes to that.

I mean, I'm not theorizing what I want to believe, but what makes sense, there shouldn't be any bias thinking if you want truth.

The creation of something as complex as "god" must have an infinitely more complex creator if so. The evolution of a physical matter and most of it's forms, based on core physical forces, is already explained pretty well by current science, it's a lot easier to explain all that we see than to explain "god", which must have an even bigger "god" who created "him", and that god must have an even more complex creator, it goes ad infinitum. Isn't a lot more simple explanation that "existence" has always existed (thus the "existence") with no begining and no end? (if there'd be an "end", it would have probably happened already, but it seems everything just is as it is, with no direction or meaning or "final goal", it simply is..). People are evaluating everything from their narrow point of view as they see birth and death in the nature, etc... But if everything is just "a whole", an energy manifested in various shape - than there's no "birth" and "death" on a bigger scale, just fluctuations of energy.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Tapeworm on May 10, 2016, 05:14:41 PM

- what do the four pillars that the Earth stands on, stand on themselves?


Elephants on turtles!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 10, 2016, 05:17:35 PM
oh yeah and da vinci, one other question would be fun to entertain with, why the fuck did god create this mmorpg called life? I don't know that neither... man I don't know many things, when it comes to the core of existance, neither do you. But so what.

I guess noone created anything, as if it was "created" it must have some kind of "goal". It has been happening for thousands and millions of thousands of years, doesn't seem like it's moving anywhere tbh. And if someone as complex as "god" exist, why couldn't it create everything "perfect" from a get go, straight to the "goal"? It just makes no sense. Everything simply existing with no meaning and no begining and no end makes a lot more sense imho. It's hard to accept that it may be like that (no purpose, no nothing, just a cosmic "music"), but if you do - everything falls to places.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 10, 2016, 05:25:15 PM
It all starts with one lie and a bunch of smaller lies are added to support the bigger lies.  We've been living in a fake reality.

When Stephen Hawking says so, I will think about it.

As long as it is only being professed by a brain dead chocolate marshmallow, I will keep on keeping on
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 10, 2016, 05:25:40 PM
The creation of something as complex as "god" must have an infinitely more complex creator if so. The evolution of a physical matter and most of it's forms, based on core physical forces, is already explained pretty well by current science, it's a lot easier to explain all that we see than to explain "god", which must have an even bigger "god" who created "him", and that god must have an even more complex creator, it goes ad infinitum. Isn't a lot more simple explanation that "existence" has always existed (thus the "existence") with no begining and no end? (if there'd be an "end", it would have probably happened already, but it seems everything just is as it is, with no direction or meaning or "final goal", it simply is..). People are evaluating everything from their narrow point of view as they see birth and death in the nature, etc... But if everything is just "a whole", an energy manifested in various shape - than there's no "birth" and "death" on a bigger scale, just fluctuations of energy.

Well there you go, you think with the very same principles as I do. But you choose the coincidence and that there was existance before creation, I choose to believe that there was existance after creation and that there is a beginning and an end. You said it's easier to explain with science what we see now than it is to explain god, for sure its true and I agree, but it's also easier to say there is a beginning and an end than it is to explain that we are all one entity and nothing matters.

Interesting to find we have two differend themes, but the platform to make sense is completely same. So... you are my brother, da_vinci ;D

I guess noone created anything, as if it was "created" it must have some kind of "goal". It has been happening for thousands and millions of thousands of years, doesn't seem like it's moving anywhere tbh. And if someone as complex as "god" exist, why couldn't it create everything "perfect" from a get go, straight to the "goal"? It just makes no sense. Everything simply existing with no meaning and no begining and no end makes a lot more sense imho. It's hard to accept that it may be like that (no purpose, no nothing, just a cosmic "music"), but if you do - everything falls to places.

Yeah it makes no sense, why would god do all this. But it makes no sense neither to glorify what you call nothing, meaningless and empty that for me is like the refreshing smell of grass after the rain or the smell of maggot infested corpse.

We are both right and both wrong because neither of us can explain how everything came to be in the first place. One of us chooses to believe in god and one of us chooses to believe in pure coincidental existance.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 10, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
Well there you go, you think with the very same principles as I do. But you choose the coincidence and that there was existance before creation, I choose to believe that there was existance after creation and that there is a beginning and an end. You said it's easier to explain with science what we see now than it is to explain god, for sure its true and I agree, but it's also easier to say there is a beginning and an end that it is to explain that we are all one entity and nothing matters, lol.

Interesting to find we have two differend themes, but the platform to make sense is cpmpletely the same. So... you are my brother, da_vinci ;D

Yeah it makes no sense, why would god do all this. But it makes no sense neither to glorify what you call nothing, meaningless and empty that for me is like the refreshing smell of grass after the rain or the smell of maggot infested corpse.

We are both right and both wrong because neither of us can explain how everything came to be in the first place. One of us chooses to believe in god and one of us chooses to believe in pure coincidental existance.

All would be good, BUT..................... .......if there was a begining (and there is an end)... someone who creted ALL must have existed too already, so... where's that "begining" then? Maybe there is none afterall? In this scenario "it always existed" has a lot more merit imho.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Nails on May 10, 2016, 05:31:37 PM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on May 10, 2016, 05:42:40 PM
Dear Wiggs, I rarely step outside bodybuilding related subjects (i.e. politics, religion, etc.) as what do I know, right!?  But I respectfully ask a few questions here if I may about comment/world view that I genuinely would be interested in hearing the answer to:

- what do the four pillars that the Earth stands on, stand on themselves?
- are the oceans all around infinite in all directions?
- is there life in those surrounding oceans?
- you mentioned that you used science to draw your conclusions - what science do you mean?

As I say, these are genuine questions, I'm not trolling, so I hope you can find the time to answer - thank in advance  :)

We've all heard the word Jewish Kanaph(meaning 4 corners of the Earth). I believe when the Jews say they want to control all 4 corners of the Earth, they truly mean the Four Pillars that Earth stands on... :D
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Nails on May 10, 2016, 06:16:32 PM
so if you go past Antarctica ice walls  , will you find white walkers



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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2016, 04:23:39 AM
Wes with suicide conditioning there...  ;)

so if you go past Antarctica ice walls  , will you find white walkers

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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: devilsmile on May 11, 2016, 04:47:09 AM
All would be good, BUT..................... .......if there was a begining (and there is an end)... someone who creted ALL must have existed too already, so... where's that "begining" then? Maybe there is none afterall? In this scenario "it always existed" has a lot more merit imho.

Yeah true, I could go with that, makes as much and as less sense when you say god always was. But to think the first particles came to existance by just being there makes no sense neither. We can't really go any further than this here, because logically we are both either wrong or right or we could both be right or wrong.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 11, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Yeah true, I could go with that, makes as much and as less sense when you say god always was. But to think the first particles came to existance by just being there makes no sense neither. We can't really go any further than this here, because logically we are both either wrong or right or we could both be right or wrong.

Well in that case there's no need for any god, because universe "always was". And if you can't make energy dissapear (only change it's form) it kind of adds to it also. I think it's very hard for us to try to comprehend it (for me too) because we are used to see stuff in a linear fashion, "from point a to point b". If we would be able to fully "calculate" the universe, there would be nothing else to calculate anymore, maybe "big bang" is that limit where numbers end, because well... nothing else to calculate, just maybe.... another big-bang, a contraction-expansion ad infinitum cycle. Accepting the idea that it always was logically is a better "move" so to speak, because if there was any kinf of creator, that creator must've existed BEFORE creating, thus it must've been another universe or something, so we can't say that there was "nothing before", and that another universe with a super complex creator must've been created by another more complex creator in yet another universe, instead of reducing complexity we create a lot bigger complexity in this case which has no end, so pretty much we end up at the same point - infinite cycle which increases in complexity the far back we go (which should be otherwise).
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 11, 2016, 05:10:00 AM
Lol at the always was theory. Cop out much?  Can't explain it so just claim it was always there.  I've done that when my ex found a used condom I fucked another girl with.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 11, 2016, 05:18:36 AM
Lol at the always was theory. Cop out much?  Can't explain it so just claim it was always there.  I've done that when my ex found a used condom I fucked another girl with.

A lot better explanation than a super complex entity "outside" the universe.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Marty Champions on May 11, 2016, 05:23:30 AM
there had to be a force wich caused the atom to be created

all elements on the periodic table are an atom with different amounts of electrons and electron rings

its all the same stuff atomically  with slight changes

 

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 11, 2016, 05:30:07 AM
there had to be a force wich caused the atom to be created

all elements on the periodic table are an atom with different amounts of electrons and electron rings

its all the same stuff atomically  with slight changes

 



Yes, it's very "simple" at the core of the things, just seem complex. I'd guess that "force" has always existed (because if it didn't, well, how could it BE then? Something that hasn't existed cant appear out of nowhere, god included, just god seems a lot more unlikely "force" than a core physical force/energy). People often doesnt realize that what they see around is a LOT less complex than what it looks like. It's enough a few variables in an equation to create a super complex fractal structures. Physical world is made exactly of fractal like patterns and once again - numbers show that a VERY basic equation is enough to create a VERY complex fractal. Thus - few physical forces were enough to create the material "universe" that we see.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Kwon on May 11, 2016, 05:34:24 AM
Nibiru found?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 11, 2016, 05:37:15 AM
Yes, it's very "simple" at the core of the things, just seem complex. I'd guess that "force" has always existed (because if it didn't, well, how could it BE then? Something that hasn't existed cant appear out of nowhere, god included, just god seems a lot more unlikely "force" than a core physical force/energy). People often doesnt realize that what they see around is a LOT less complex than what it looks like. It's enough a few variables in an equation to create a super complex fractal structures. Physical world is made exactly of fractal like patterns and once again - numbers show that a VERY basic equation is enough to create a VERY complex fractal. Thus - few physical forces were enough to create the material "universe" that we see.

Voltaire (or someone else) thought God to be the Prime Mover. I can't recall undergrad philosophy well enough to say if he was religious by our current definition.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: milone79 on May 11, 2016, 05:40:41 AM
"Planets" are wandering stars. And they're not light years away. They're thousands of miles away.


truth!!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 11, 2016, 05:45:16 AM
Voltaire (or someone else) thought God to be the Prime Mover. I can't recall undergrad philosophy well enough to say if he was religious by our current definition.

Why can't it be a physical force then? Makes a lot more sense. Except that it's not comforting idea, it forces to realize that in that case life has no purpose and no goal, no meaning for the suffering of many, no reason, no nothing, just an endless happening. That's why people insist on a "god" idea, that's the only reason, otherwise a physical force as a "god" is a lot more reasonable explanation however you look at it.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 11, 2016, 05:50:33 AM
Why can't it be a physical force then? Makes a lot more sense. Except that it's not comforting idea, it forces to realize that in that case life has no purpose and no goal, no meaning for the suffering of many, no reason, no nothing, just an endless happening. That's why people insist on a "god" idea, that's the only reason, otherwise a physical force as a "god" is a lot more reasonable explanation however you look at it.

IIRC, he didn't think God was something that wanted worshipping. Prime Mover was just his rationalization for whatever force got things in motion.  Some of the tings you're adding in are more about religion than God. Religion is pretty much Man's creation to cope with mortality and phenomena not easily understood or rationalized. If you went back in time and grabbed an ancient Egyptian, Israelite, caveman, etc... and showed them a television they'd probably think it was the work of Some God or Demon.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: da_vinci on May 11, 2016, 05:57:25 AM
IIRC, he didn't think God was something that wanted worshipping. Prime Mover was just his rationalization for whatever force got things in motion.  Some of the tings you're adding in are more about religion than God. Religion is pretty much Man's creation to cope with mortality and phenomena not easily understood or rationalized. If you went back in time and grabbed an ancient Egyptian, Israelite, caveman, etc... and showed them a television they'd probably think it was the work of Some God or Demon.

So he probably was quite a reasonable man. "god" in that case would be just a word, we could say it was an "energy that has existed forever" and it would be good too. Why most reject the idea that something may have existed without creation/begining? Just becase we are SO used to a concept of begining and an end that we don't question it at all. If we are merely a shape of an energy (which we ARE), the begning or end doesn't actually make sense on a grand scale. We simply change shape (energy changes shape) and so it goes round and round. If there's only a constand change - how can there be an end or begining. Begining is "past", end is "future", none of these exist, only NOW, so...
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 11, 2016, 06:06:55 AM
So he probably was quite a reasonable man. "god" in that case would be just a word, we could say it was an "energy that has existed forever" and it would be good too. Why most reject the idea that something may have existed without creation/begining? Just becase we are SO used to a concept of begining and an end that we don't question it at all. If we are merely a shape of an energy (which we ARE), the begning or end doesn't actually make sense on a grand scale. We simply change shape (energy changes shape) and so it goes round and round. If there's only a constand change - how can there be an end or begining. Begining is "past", end is "future", none of these exist, only NOW, so...

He would have probably been branded a heretic for using another term.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Mitch on May 11, 2016, 06:09:29 AM
The earth truly is flat and we live in a dome. It's like almost like a snow globe. Once again the Bible was right.  Ya know I used to laugh at people that thought this.  It seemed so unfathomable I never addressed.  Then I actually took a look at it and used SCIENCE and it proved to be true. The earth is indeed flat or concave.

Gravity does not exist.  Gravity is a theory and theory that will never be proven as fact. Gravity needs to exist in order for the heliocentric theory to be true.
"Gravity" is actually an object more dense than the air around it then it falls. If you and make an object lighter then the air around it, it floats.  That in a nutshell is "gravity".  It's a farce.

The earth does not spin.  It's immovable. The sun and the moon rotate to give light. The earth is on four pillars and doesn't move.
what the pillars are on?
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 11, 2016, 06:10:53 AM
what the pillars are on?

God's hand.  >:(
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Tapeworm on May 11, 2016, 06:34:40 AM
He would have probably been branded a heretic for using another term.

Got the shit kicked out of him by some hired henchmen for owning a nobleman.  Extended a middle finger to France and went to England, I think.  Never knew when to shut the fuck up, to his credit.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 11, 2016, 07:32:19 AM
I'm pretty sure when everyone finds out the truth they'll be disappointed.  Better we not know.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Waller on May 11, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
Holy fucking Jesus titty sucking! There are some infuriatingly stupid people in this world.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Howard on May 11, 2016, 09:43:49 AM
"Planets" are wandering masses. And they're not light years away. They're MILLIONS of miles away.

fixed
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Howard on May 11, 2016, 09:47:29 AM
Why can't it be a physical force then? Makes a lot more sense. Except that it's not comforting idea, it forces to realize that in that case life has no purpose and no goal, no meaning for the suffering of many, no reason, no nothing, just an endless happening. That's why people insist on a "god" idea, that's the only reason, otherwise a physical force as a "god" is a lot more reasonable explanation however you look at it.

It was THIS force which helped Wiggs ancestors get out of bum fuk Egypt

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2016, 09:55:43 AM
Elephants on turtles!

Oh, right thanks....

erm...

So what are the turtles standing on..?   ???
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2016, 10:01:05 AM
Bump

Dear Wiggs, I rarely step outside bodybuilding related subjects (i.e. politics, religion, etc.) as what do I know, right!?  But I respectfully ask a few questions here if I may about comment/world view that I genuinely would be interested in hearing the answer to:

- what do the four pillars that the Earth stands on, stand on themselves?
- are the oceans all around infinite in all directions?
- is there life in those surrounding oceans?
- you mentioned that you used science to draw your conclusions - what science do you mean?

As I say, these are genuine questions, I'm not trolling, so I hope you can find the time to answer - thank in advance  :)
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 11, 2016, 10:02:11 AM
Oh, right thanks....

erm...

So what are the turtles standing on..?   ???


It's turtles all the way down. And there's Klingons on Uranus.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Nails on May 11, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: PJim on May 11, 2016, 10:48:40 AM
Could you imagine if a newbie to training stumbled across this place and read some of the nonsense posted...There's skepticism and then there's plain stupid.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2016, 10:52:47 AM

It's turtles all the way down. And there's Klingons on Uranus.

 :D

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 11, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
Oh, right thanks....

erm...

So what are the turtles standing on..?   ???


sand
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2016, 01:03:42 PM

sand

Right!  Now I get it....

Erm...

But what's the sand on top of..?  ???
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Nails on May 11, 2016, 01:09:02 PM
Right!  Now I get it....

Erm...

But what's the sand on top of..?  ???


Snake
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2016, 01:42:31 PM

Snake

 8)

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Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: TSNWGS on May 11, 2016, 07:08:40 PM
NASA is a hoax, all their projects are produced in a tv studio and they use the agency to bilk money and cover up the program they really use which is dealings with extra terrestrials!!! Wake up you morons!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Wiggs on May 11, 2016, 08:52:02 PM
NASA is a hoax, all their projects are produced in a tv studio and they use the agency to bilk money and cover up the program they really use which is dealings with extra terrestrials!!! Wake up you morons!

Those "ETs" are actually the biblical fallen angels.
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Royalty on May 12, 2016, 04:34:29 AM
NASA is a hoax, all their projects are produced in a tv studio and they use the agency to bilk money and cover up the program they really use which is dealings with extra terrestrials!!! Wake up you morons!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 12, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
NASA was created as a way to funnel billions of dollars to Israel
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Raymondo on May 12, 2016, 02:01:12 PM
Those "ETs" are actually the biblical fallen angels.

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: drkaje on May 12, 2016, 02:49:44 PM
NASA was created as a way to funnel billions of dollars to Israel

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/world/middleeast/30prexy.html?_r=0
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Parker on May 12, 2016, 03:45:28 PM
Nibirus Aplenty
http://gizmodo.com/a-huge-unnamed-dwarf-planet-almost-the-size-of-pluto-1776287457?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=thursdayPM  (http://gizmodo.com/a-huge-unnamed-dwarf-planet-almost-the-size-of-pluto-1776287457?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=thursdayPM)
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: liberty on May 12, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
This telescope goes up in 18'
Bad ass.....some cool images and live webcams
http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/ (http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/)

Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: Taffin on May 12, 2016, 04:43:25 PM
This telescope goes up in 18'
Bad ass.....some cool images and live webcams

That is a really cool link - thanks for posting  :) :)
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: TSNWGS on May 13, 2016, 01:48:12 AM
There's a video on YouTube 3 astronauts are suppose to be in the space station and the astronaut says how he played sports in Maine on a state right across America from where they are currently recording!!! Fool!!!
Title: Re: NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY
Post by: 2scared2post on May 13, 2016, 02:16:27 AM
There's a video on YouTube 3 astronauts are suppose to be in the space station and the astronaut says how he played sports in Maine on a state right across America from where they are currently recording!!! Fool!!!

Did you have a father growing up? or a father figure at least?