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Title: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 23, 2016, 05:28:05 AM
I see he is ahead 52-48 in the Presidential election, but with the postal votes to be counted today, what are the odds "they" don't let him take the win? (i.e. make sure the postal vote count is against)  I could see this potentially being bad for the EU if it goes through in his favor.  But, with the Brexit vote looming, I don't think the powers that be will let this happen, or it may push UK towards leaving, along with many other of the EU countries.  Any of you from Osterreich able to give any feedback? -bruce-?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 23, 2016, 05:42:01 AM
It might be a good thing in regards to impalement immigration policy.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Purge_WTF on May 23, 2016, 06:54:00 AM
It might be a good thing in regards to impalement immigration policy.

 This. Until Australia starts to become overwhelmed by "Syrian refugees," not much will change.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: phreak on May 23, 2016, 06:59:22 AM
I'm sure his car will also have an unexpected brake problem.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: RagingBull on May 23, 2016, 07:19:17 AM
It's a ceremonial position BUT it will be a referendum on the liberal policies...
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2016, 07:42:06 AM
This Party is on the rise in Germany. What they do not say is their Back to Nazi Ideas about Women staying at Home and making Babies for the "pure" Race...among other Radical ideas.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 23, 2016, 07:52:01 AM
It's a ceremonial position BUT it will be a referendum on the liberal policies...

He can dissolve parliment, and I believe appoint the chancellor. It may be ceremonial, but he does have some powers.

 
This Party is on the rise in Germany. What they do not say is their Back to Nazi Ideas about Women staying at Home and making Babies for the "pure" Race...among other Radical ideas.


I wouldn't call them radical ideas. The only reason immigrants are brought in, is to replace an aging workforce that isn't reproducing. This way, they kill two birds with one stone. Replace their own population, and make sure it's a replacement that shares their values and customs. I saw a rally of theirs in Munich, it was pretty cool. A lot of anti "nazi" protestors there that looked like skinheads. A bunch of emo twinks.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 23, 2016, 07:55:25 AM
Well, that's that. :-\ They narrowly lost. Good luck with your invasion Mother Europe...
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2016, 08:03:49 AM
He can dissolve parliment, and I believe appoint the chancellor. It may be ceremonial, but he does have some powers.

 
I wouldn't call them radical ideas. The only reason immigrants are brought in, is to replace an aging workforce that isn't reproducing. This way, they kill two birds with one stone. Replace their own population, and make sure it's a replacement that shares their values and customs. I saw a rally of theirs in Munich, it was pretty cool. A lot of anti "nazi" protestors there that looked like skinheads. A bunch of emo twinks.
They have a lot of hidden agendas. They appeal to people because of the current situation but if you knew the deep philosophy of this Party then i think you might not think itīs pretty "Cool". i have lived here since 1985 and am an ex Politician. These people are "fueling" the Fire for their own purposes. I do not agree with mass Immigration and am not a Liberal but i have my eyes wide open and know the "scene" here.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: polychronopolous on May 23, 2016, 08:05:23 AM
They have a lot of hidden agendas. They appeal to people because of the current situation but if you knew the deep philosophy of this Party then i think you might not think itīs pretty "Cool". i have lived here since 1985 and am an ex Politician. These people are "fueling" the Fire for their own purposes. I do not agree with mass Immigration and am not a Liberal but i have my eyes wide open and know the "scene" here.

you still thinking about running for office again donny?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: _bruce_ on May 23, 2016, 12:14:20 PM
It's pretty good that the green won since the coming drama will be glued to him and his followers. The close win, under lucky circumstances, is also an accelerator to an already imploding situation.
Just be patient and watch the decay.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Griffith on May 23, 2016, 12:20:48 PM
They have a lot of hidden agendas. They appeal to people because of the current situation but if you knew the deep philosophy of this Party then i think you might not think itīs pretty "Cool". i have lived here since 1985 and am an ex Politician. These people are "fueling" the Fire for their own purposes. I do not agree with mass Immigration and am not a Liberal but i have my eyes wide open and know the "scene" here.

Like what?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: TheShape. on May 23, 2016, 12:23:42 PM
The Islamic takeover of Europe continues.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: _bruce_ on May 23, 2016, 12:43:17 PM
Like what?

No more alcohol. Donny's worst nightmare.  :(
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: _aj_ on May 24, 2016, 03:21:21 AM
Another opportunity to stem the tide of global progressive slavery of whites thwarted. I expect the cuckold Brits to meekly vote to stay in the EU in June. There are no hearts that aren't enslaved in Europe.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 24, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
Another opportunity to stem the tide of global progressive slavery of whites thwarted. I expect the cuckold Brits to meekly vote to stay in the EU in June. There are no hearts that aren't enslaved in Europe.

 :-\
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: _aj_ on May 24, 2016, 06:31:07 PM
http://archive.is/JSDRD

What now, Austria?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 24, 2016, 06:36:46 PM
Idk.  Ich kan dat neit lesen.

(http://s2.dmcdn.net/EkBo5/1280x720-v2f.jpg)
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 24, 2016, 07:50:22 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Europe is an opportunity to see what will happen in the US as immigration gets scaled-up?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: TuHolmes on May 24, 2016, 07:52:41 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Europe is an opportunity to see what will happen in the US as immigration gets scaled-up?

Not sure. The only reason the US exists is because of immigration. Those countries, not so much.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 24, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
Not sure. The only reason the US exists is because of immigration. Those countries, not so much.

With exceptions: Immigrants who helped make this country great were interested in becoming Americans.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: TuHolmes on May 24, 2016, 08:13:58 PM
With exceptions: Immigrants who helped make this country great were interested in becoming Americans.

Do you think people who immigrate here now don't want to become Americans?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 24, 2016, 08:23:29 PM
Do you think people who immigrate here now don't want to become Americans?

At the risk of overgeneralizing: No.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Fortress on May 24, 2016, 08:38:15 PM
No orthodox Moozie has any desire to assimilate into a host country's culture, period.

Islam is a warring ideology/religion that commands the faithful to strive in every way possible to achieve global domination.

It's a virus. And it's disgusting.

Moozies are supposed to endeavour to be like Mohamed, Allah's "perfect" Muslim. Mohamed was a pedophilic mass murderer.

Fact.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: TuHolmes on May 24, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
At the risk of overgeneralizing: No.

That is the opposite of all of the immigrants I have worked with / dealt with otherwise.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: phreak on May 25, 2016, 12:08:27 AM
Idk.  Ich kan dat neit lesen.

(http://s2.dmcdn.net/EkBo5/1280x720-v2f.jpg)

I know a little German.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Yamcha on May 25, 2016, 03:51:13 AM
No orthodox Moozie has any desire to assimilate into a host country's culture, period.

Islam is a warring ideology/religion that commands the faithful to strive in every way possible to achieve global domination.

It's a virus. And it's disgusting.

Moozies are supposed to endeavour to be like Mohamed, Allah's "perfect" Muslim. Mohamed was a pedophilic mass murderer.

Fact.

I am not a moozie, but I can attest to this! FACT  :D
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 25, 2016, 03:55:39 AM
That is the opposite of all of the immigrants I have worked with / dealt with otherwise.

Someone who immigrates here to advance orthodox ideals has no interest in assimilating into American culture. That's not the same as passing a citizenship test and getting benefits.

I should have been more specific.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 25, 2016, 03:57:22 AM
http://archive.is/JSDRD

What now, Austria?

Vote rigging?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: _aj_ on May 25, 2016, 04:13:03 AM
Vote rigging?

146% of eligible voters cast ballots? Nothing fishy about that. The US democrat "consultants" are obviously helping the progs in the EU.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: SuperTed on May 25, 2016, 04:31:37 AM
Whether immigration is beneficial to a country or not will be dependent on who the immigrants are and where they are coming from.
For instance, I don't think anyone can deny that bringing in a million Japanese migrants into a nation would yield vastly different results than bringing in a million Somali migrants.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 25, 2016, 04:58:06 AM
Whether immigration is beneficial to a country or not will be dependent on who the immigrants are and where they are coming from.
For instance, I don't think anyone can deny that bringing in a million Japanese migrants into a nation would yield vastly different results than bringing in a million Somali migrants.

Neither would be good.

It's a question of who would feel the effects. A million Japanese would probably outcompete whites and raise property values. A million Somali refugees would be a drain on the system and make shitty areas shittier.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: SuperTed on May 25, 2016, 05:08:09 AM
Neither would be good.

It's a question of who would feel the effects. A million Japanese would probably outcompete whites and raise property values. A million Somali refugees would be a drain on the system and make shitty areas shittier.

That's a fair point. I was just looking at it purely from an economic perspective and the long term implications.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 25, 2016, 05:21:46 AM
That's a fair point. I was just looking at it purely from an economic perspective and the long term implications.

Both would affect the middle class.

People would probably rather have jobs and pay taxes than compete against an influx of first-world workers.

I'm probably making too many assumptions about the Japanese being smarter than Americans, not having their own Jindus, and ignoring organized crime issues. :)
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: SuperTed on May 25, 2016, 05:41:46 AM
Both would affect the middle class.

People would probably rather have jobs and pay taxes than compete against an influx of first-world workers.

I'm probably making too many assumptions about the Japanese being smarter than Americans, not having their own Jindus, and ignoring organized crime issues. :)

I'd agree that all immigrants will come with their problems, especially when arriving in large numbers. However, I think certain ethnic groups may have the pro's outweighing the con's while it will be opposite for others.

You can see it in the UK. Pretty much every ethnic group has a big community here. However, the impact these groups have had in the UK differ quite considerably.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: _bruce_ on May 25, 2016, 05:50:16 AM
Currently shit is going down because of rigged votes. It doesn't get any better - the establishment is making more enemies by the day.
But one has to be realistic, nobody but the common peasant being present in the streets can bring any real change.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Fortress on May 25, 2016, 09:33:09 AM
Nationalism is a very good thing.

With too many representing too many differing "ways of life", the challenges to accommodate everybody become beyond impractical.

In trying to keep everyone happy, the end result is no one is happy.

Having said this, sure, very select immigration can be beneficial. IF the immigrants share a culture "in the general ballpark" of the host nation's.

Islam is almost literally the opposite of Western ideals. It's a "religion" unlike any other, in that it comes with a ready-made "divine" political system and a commanded mandate to topple anything that isn't Islam.

No matter how friendly a Muslim might be, make no mistake. If he's truly an orthodox, practicing Muslim, he cherishes the idea that, one day, his kind will hold triumph with their sky wizard over any and all lands.

The Qu'ran is a tome of extensive hate speech and intolerance. It's a directive to enslave and kill.

This is all fact.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 25, 2016, 10:10:41 AM
Nationalism is a very good thing.

With too many representing too many differing "ways of life", the challenges to accommodate everybody become beyond impractical.

In trying to keep everyone happy, the end result is no one is happy.

Having said this, sure, very select immigration can be beneficial. IF the immigrants share a culture "in the general ballpark" of the host nation's.

Islam is almost literally the opposite of Western ideals. It's a "religion" unlike any other, in that it comes with a ready-made "divine" political system and a commanded mandate to topple anything that isn't Islam.

No matter how friendly a Muslim might be, make no mistake. If he's truly an orthodox, practicing Muslim, he cherishes the idea that, one day, his kind will hold triumph with their sky wizard over any and all lands.

The Qu'ran is a tome of extensive hate speech and intolerance. It's a directive to enslave and kill.

This is all fact.

Other religious texts have similar intolerance.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: SuperTed on May 25, 2016, 10:26:05 AM
Other religious texts have similar intolerance.

Perhaps, but Islam is rather unique in a number of ways when compared to the other major world religions.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 25, 2016, 11:55:24 AM
Perhaps, but Islam is rather unique in a number of ways when compared to the other major world religions.

I don't trust any fundamentalist's agenda.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: SuperTed on May 25, 2016, 12:22:07 PM
I don't trust any fundamentalist's agenda.

Neither do I, but Islamic fundamentalism is the most proactive and prominent type of religious fundamentalism that exists today. I feel part of the problem is this misguided belief that many have that Islam is "just like any other religion".
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Fortress on May 25, 2016, 12:38:58 PM
I don't trust any fundamentalist's agenda.

Of course. All religion is damaging and dangerous.

However, unlike other religions, Islam is as much a political ideology as it is a religious faith. As well, it is an extraordinarily militant system of belief that, contrary to the spin doctors' ramblings, leaves zero room for interpretation.

Christians, for instance, are taught to love. The Qu'ran commands Allah's followers to hate Christians and Jews. Homosexuals. Unbelievers.

That these people are inferior. Not to be befriended. To be enslaved or murdered.

That apostates are to be killed, too.

That Sharia law, god's law, is the "perfect" political system.

Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: drkaje on May 25, 2016, 01:01:15 PM
We'd have Biblical law in the US if our own fundies had their way.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 08, 2016, 01:30:21 PM
Uh oh! Will anything come of this? Under 16 and illegals voted in the election!?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/08/austria-far-right-launches-challenge-to-presidential-election-re/
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 09, 2016, 06:16:24 AM
Is Western Civilization rolling over? Are "we" finally on the "wrong side"?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 01, 2016, 09:34:41 AM
Boom! The high court annulled the election results due to improper handling of mail in votes. Will the far right nationalist machine triumph in Austria too?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: The Scott on July 01, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
We'd have Biblical law in the US if our own fundies had their way.

You are being silly.  Not ridiculous.  Silly.  As in like a child, silly.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Erik C on July 01, 2016, 09:47:01 AM
Boom! The high court annulled the election results do to improper handling of mail in votes. Will the far right nationalist machine triumph in Austria too?

Let's Hope So!
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: io856 on July 01, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
People can immigrate all they like to other countries, gung ho about the ideals of the host country. You might be perfectly fine to enter the "land of opportunity", make it, do well and live the immigrant dream.

Then babies come along and they want to protect them through the ideology that they know. Babies, children change everything... Ask any parent.

Once the daughter starts to show skin, the mum and dad doesn't like it. Once the son starts to drink, watch internet porn and taught secular, airy fairy ideologies in school, mum and dad doesn't like it. Of course the "fall" or "potential fall" of their children is because of the "ills of western civilization"?

What is the answer to protect their children once already in Western Civilization?
All an afterthought, an afterthought of the government immigration policy, an afterthought of the parents and an afterthought of society overall.

When the second generation find themselves exposed to the "ills of western society" it is not their self control to blame. The reason is, to their heartfelt belief, the very ethos and nature of the society they live in. They succumb to vice and the solution for many second generation muslims particularly males is not personal development and overcoming vice. A young male having his heart broken by Americano women furthers the drive towards living under sharia law. The powerful male competitive drive is then channeled into furthering the Islamic agenda. Islam has no room for convincing others through rhetoric, it relies on submission, submission of all. The solution of many second generation muslims is the eradication of vice and social ills through radicalized Islamic beliefs. The conquering of the very same system that invited their family. The system of "evil".

The intent of Islam could be seen as beautiful, peaceful and harmonious.
I'm sure theres a lot more... bare with me Islamic getbiggers.

But, its it possible to achieve such harmony, peace and beauty without complete involvement by society? Not really, the iron fist of Islam is required to make it work. Does Western Civilization want that iron fist is the question...? Is it prepared to deal with the iron fist collecting it's weight within their neighborhoods?
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 01, 2016, 10:48:51 AM
People can immigrate all they like to other countries, gung ho about the ideals of the host country. You might be perfectly fine to enter the "land of opportunity", make it, do well and live the immigrant dream.

Then babies come along and they want to protect them through the ideology that they know. Babies, children change everything... Ask any parent.

Once the daughter starts to show skin, the mum and dad doesn't like it. Once the son starts to drink, watch internet porn and be taught secular airy fairy ideologies in school, mum and dad doesn't like it. Of course the "fall" or "potential fall" of their children is because of the "ills of western civilization"?

What is the answer to protect their children once already in Western Civilization?
Sharia Law
Sharia Law zonings
The end goal of an Islamic state;
All an afterthought, an afterthought of the government immigration policy, an afterthought of the parents and an afterthought of society overall.

When the second generation find themselves exposed to the "ills of western society" it is not their self control to blame. The reason is, to their heartfelt belief, the very ethos and nature of the society they live in. They succumb to vice and the solution for many second generation muslims particularly males is not personal development and overcoming vice. The solution of many second generation muslims is the eradication of vice through radicalized Islamic beliefs. The conquering of the very same system that invited their family. The system of "evil".

The second generation also are ideal candidates for terrorist recruitment: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/)
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 01, 2016, 09:37:42 PM
The second generation also are ideal candidates for terrorist recruitment: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/)

Read "Reflections on The Revolution in Europe: Islam immigration and the West. It explains all of this.
Title: Re: What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on July 02, 2016, 09:59:10 AM
So the vote was rigged?  Statistics show he only lost because of the female vote.