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Phils arms are very asymmetrical. His left arm drastically overpowers his right arm. Very strange looking. And it's not the way his hands are placed, since the asymmetry is apparent in his other poses. Phil does look pretty freaky in this pic, but I still prefer Levrones physique.
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close comparison, i hate to say this i think phil takes it
they are close from the front phil has better legs and from the back phil wins for sure.
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For fuck sake how can a "mature" bodybuilding forum still post these kinds of comparisons?
Might as well throw in a Lee Priest photo.
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For fuck sake how can a "mature" bodybuilding forum still post these kinds of comparisons?
Might as well throw in a Lee Priest photo.
Calm down, its bodybuilding. It's not that serious.
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close comparison, i hate to say this i think phil takes it
they are close from the front phil has better legs and from the back phil wins for sure.
Oldschoolfan, do you think if Levrone was in his prime these days, he would wipe the floor with Phil Cheath?
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Kevin has the best front hands clasp pose in bodybuilding.
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I will be SHOCKED if Levrone appears on the O stage. It's been what, 13 years since he competed at the O - and he was past top 5 shape then.
It's nice that everyone's talking, but aside from some friendly polished pic sessions 3-weeks out....
am I the only one that suspects a last minute 'injury' sidelines him? The world of BBing is so different today. I know he has world class genes, better than most others. And I'm sure he's feeling awesome. But he'd already peaked when he retired, and that was 2003?
I'm a HUGE levrone fan, definitely my favorte BBer of the 90s... I still remember his funny pre-Helsinki interview in FLEX. Huge fan. But I don't think he ever steps on the O stage.
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Levrone 2002
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wv8KcGiy02Y/UAdBku_Jt0I/AAAAAAAACsE/m2ttm5RskIs/s1600/12.jpg)
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Oldschoolfan, do you think if Levrone was in his prime these days, he would wipe the floor with Phil Cheath?
i am not sure, from the front its close, kevin was weird sometimes he would come in looking great and others times know
prime kevin could win but definately not now. i never consdered kevin even in the 90's to be the best
dorian and flex were, till ronnie dialed it in.
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Levrone 2002
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wv8KcGiy02Y/UAdBku_Jt0I/AAAAAAAACsE/m2ttm5RskIs/s1600/12.jpg)
To quick progress. No muscle maturity achieved! I guesthis is one of his 4 moths getting on stage ready time. Muscles looked much more solid before...when he did it all year round!
He would need 6 more moths to get the solid rock hard muscles. THis is quick fix.
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That's Kev at his best ('98) and he smokes Phil in that pose, but he'd still lose the BDB and probably the RLS.
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That's Kev at his best ('98) and he smokes Phil in that pose, but he'd still lose the BDB and probably the RLS.
he lose every pose accepts front most muscular witch he dosent win neither. Its up for every individual to decide whos got this one. Both look great in that pose. Every other pose no discussion
Phil should start to work on angels. Put his bad arm slightly front of the good arm. And the elbow lite bit front to create piana illusion...
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close comparison, i hate to say this i think phil takes it
Wow, we really see things differently.
Phil's structural flaws are extremely exposed by that comparison. Levrone looks near perfect in that pose.
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he lose every pose accepts front most muscular witch he dosent win neither. Its up for every individual to decide whos got this one. Both look great in that pose. Every other pose no discussion
Phil should start to work on angels. Put his bad arm slightly front of the good arm. And the elbow lite bit front to create piana illusion...
Side chest would be close.
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This whole thing is the IFBB's August 6th moment.
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THat Kevin is still top 3 at the Olympia
he will come dead last this time if he turns up
will have no legs or back
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THat Kevin is still top 3 at the Olympia
he will come dead last this time if he turns up
will have no legs or back
Mayvbe doing a local show? The nationals...could he win that?
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heres the thing guys and im sure its going to piss some of you off
this is a sad attempt by a 51 year old man who cant accept that part of his life is done.,
kevin has never worked a real job in his life, he pissed through the money he made when he was a top pro. he is doing this
to get people to buy his shitty supplements or some other sup company will sign him kevin needs to accept that part of his life is over
he is putting his health at stake here, and he doesnt look nowhere ready in his latest videos to stand on the olympia stage
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Phils arms are very asymmetrical. His left arm drastically overpowers his right arm. Very strange looking.
Speaking of arm imbalances lol
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heres the thing guys and im sure its going to piss some of you off
this is a sad attempt by a 51 year old man who cant accept that part of his life is done.,
kevin has never worked a real job in his life, he pissed through the money he made when he was a top pro. he is doing this
to get people to buy his shitty supplements or some other sup company will sign him kevin needs to accept that part of his life is over
he is putting his health at stake here, and he doesnt look nowhere ready in his latest videos to stand on the olympia stage
Well, he got nothing else in life basically. He failed as a musician, he failed as an actor, BB is basically the only niche where he was remotely successfull (and that's a lil circus freak side show)
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heres the thing guys and im sure its going to piss some of you off
this is a sad attempt by a 51 year old man who cant accept that part of his life is done.,
kevin has never worked a real job in his life, he pissed through the money he made when he was a top pro. he is doing this
to get people to buy his shitty supplements or some other sup company will sign him kevin needs to accept that part of his life is over
he is putting his health at stake here, and he doesnt look nowhere ready in his latest videos to stand on the olympia stage
Supposedly he once owned a construction company. Who knows? Might be a lie.
But yes, he needs attention & adoration & money. It reminds me of past-their-prime Milf's. A Milf suffering from a midlife crisis.
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Kev was definetely not as smart as Nasser business-wise, enjoying retirement as a millionaire at 300 pds with abs 8)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/nasser4v.jpg)
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Well, he got nothing else in life basically. He failed as a musician, he failed as an actor, BB is basically the only niche where he was remotely successfull (and that's a lil circus freak side show)
your right affeman, he suffers from a god complex
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I wouldn't say he "Failed" as a singer. He's capable as a vocalist, I just don't care for that Creed-type stuff.
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i am not sure, from the front its close, kevin was weird sometimes he would come in looking great and others times know
prime kevin could win but definately not now. i never consdered kevin even in the 90's to be the best
dorian and flex were, till ronnie dialed it in.
Flex was far from the best. Thin/tiny legs, tiny little pecs, small traps. The only good features he had were his arms (which overpowered everything else) and his back. NOTHING else on Flex was impressive. When Levrone was in shape (large and cut) he was the full package imo. Btw, I also think that Shawn Ray was light years better than Flex and he was only 2-3" shorter than him.
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Wow, we really see things differently.
Phil's structural flaws are extremely exposed by that comparison. Levrone looks near perfect in that pose.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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NOTHING else on Flex was impressive.
I disagree, Flex's legs looked thick as hell in the side shots. Good hams
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I disagree, Flex's legs looked thick as hell in the side shots. Good hams
Even destroyed Ronnie in the side shots imo. Insane thickness on his arms and delts
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Even destroyed Ronnie in the side shots imo. Insane thickness oil on his arms and delts
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2mlqzPLln1rt4r7po1_1280.jpg)
Fixed!
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Well, he got nothing else in life basically. He failed as a musician, he failed as an actor, BB is basically the only niche where he was remotely successfull (and that's a lil circus freak side show)
remotely doesn't make runner up Mr. O 4 times. Only Dorian and Ronnie stood in his way, at different times. Kevin will win the 2016 Mr O. :-*
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heres the thing guys and im sure its going to piss some of you off
this is a sad attempt by a 51 year old man who cant accept that part of his life is done.,
kevin has never worked a real job in his life, he pissed through the money he made when he was a top pro. he is doing this
to get people to buy his shitty supplements or some other sup company will sign him kevin needs to accept that part of his life is over
he is putting his health at stake here, and he doesnt look nowhere ready in his latest videos to stand on the olympia stage
If he really is putting his health on the line then I agree with that, but otherwise I support him. It won't ruin his image or legacy if he finishes dead last.
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the 93 version of flex wheeler that showed up at the asc classic is better than anything levrone ever showed onstage.
dorian yates himself said flex was the only person he seen as a threat, not kevin levrone.
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Phils arms are very asymmetrical. His left arm drastically overpowers his right arm. Very strange looking. And it's not the way his hands are placed, since the asymmetry is apparent in his other poses. Phil does look pretty freaky in this pic, but I still prefer Levrones physique.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/jznzm.png)
(https://www.awesomestories.com/images/user/3cd856e753e02a494b11bd57f323a34d.jpg)
Phil looks pretty bad in that picture. Like an oversized, glazed doughnut. Looks like a giant mess. ??? ??? ???
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Phil Heath can never compare physiquewise to Kevrönen. FACT!
Not only is Kevorkian a much better bodybuilder, he is also a much better singer.
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THat Kevin is still top 3 at the Olympia
he will come dead last this time if he turns up
will have no legs or back
Maybe you should Train him :D
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Maybe you should Train him :D
not a bad idea
il text him and "set it up"
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not a bad idea
il text him and "set it up"
Do that and clean his Toilet when you are there. :)
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Flex was far from the best. Thin/tiny legs, tiny little pecs, small traps. The only good features he had were his arms (which overpowered everything else) and his back. NOTHING else on Flex was impressive. When Levrone was in shape (large and cut) he was the full package imo. Btw, I also think that Shawn Ray was light years better than Flex and he was only 2-3" shorter than him.
Thin tiny legs and no traps? I can give you the pecs, but everything else.
(http://www.allegro.musclepower.pl/images/Flex-3.jpg)
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8-7qpDLtMtA/T16-JqnFrhI/AAAAAAAAAGU/mjrShsVLwFc/s1600/flex-wheeler-1.jpg)
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Do that and clean his Toilet when you are there. :)
not sure that will help with his training
might be able to get his bench up to 500 8)
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not sure that will help with his training
might be able to get his bench up to 500 8)
yes i am sure he saw your Video ..shame we never :D
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Bottom line is as much as we hate to admit it, is if you'd put Phil's best against the best of the 90s, Phil loses to very few people. He loses to Ronnie, He loses to Dorian, He loses to Flex Wheeler and that's about it. Phil is better than Kevin, Dillet, Cormier, Cutler, Ray, Dexter. Does Phil have flaws? Yes, just like every other bodybuilder. But overall, he's very difficult to beat mainly because of his bdb pose. It has no flaws. There only bodybuilders that can compare is Dorian and Ronnie and you can add Phil to the mix in no order for being the best in that pose.
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Bottom line is as much as we hate to admit it, is if you'd put Phil's best against the best of the 90s, Phil loses to very few people. He loses to Ronnie, He loses to Dorian, He loses to Flex Wheeler and that's about it. Phil is better than Kevin, Dillet, Cormier, Cutler, Ray, Dexter. Does Phil have flaws? Yes, just like every other bodybuilder. But overall, he's very difficult to beat mainly because of his bdb pose. It has no flaws. There only bodybuilders that can compare is Dorian and Ronnie and you can add Phil to the mix in no order for being the best in that pose.
Amazingly this may be the craziest thing you ever said. All those 90s guys you listed are better than Phil.
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Bottom line is as much as we hate to admit it, is if you'd put Phil's best against the best of the 90s, Phil loses to very few people. He loses to Ronnie, He loses to Dorian, He loses to Flex Wheeler and that's about it. Phil is better than Kevin, Dillet, Cormier, Cutler, Ray, Dexter. Does Phil have flaws? Yes, just like every other bodybuilder. But overall, he's very difficult to beat mainly because of his bdb pose. It has no flaws. There only bodybuilders that can compare is Dorian and Ronnie and you can add Phil to the mix in no order for being the best in that pose.
Better than most of the top 90's bodybuilders?
Not a chance.
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Thin tiny legs and no traps? I can give you the pecs, but everything else.
(http://www.allegro.musclepower.pl/images/Flex-3.jpg)
(http://www.o2worldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/كمال-الاجسام-صور-فليكس-ويلر-كمال-اجسام-بطل-العالم-بطولة-مستر-اولمبيا-2014-18.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8-7qpDLtMtA/T16-JqnFrhI/AAAAAAAAAGU/mjrShsVLwFc/s1600/flex-wheeler-1.jpg)
Flex wheeler at his best is better than Kevin at his best, too bad about the oil and trying to play the size game
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Wiggs is right if you're going to go by judging criteria in that you win from the back and you win.
Don't let your opinion of how it should be cloud how it is
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Please post shots from the 90s that equal or best that, that are not of Flex, Dorian or Ronnie.
This beats Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, Francois, Newman, Dillet, all of them. Only a prime Flex beats a prime Heath and even then it's arguable. A Prime Ronnie beats a prime Heath. That's for sure. I'd say a prime Dorian beats a prime Heath. A Prime Haney beats a prime Heath. Other than that, Heath beats em.
Cormier can't match his back shots and would get crushed.
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From the front
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Phil has more mass, but I think ray is better. Aesthetics for the win.
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Please post shots from the 90s that equal or best that, that are not of Flex, Dorian or Ronnie.
This beats Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, Francois, Newman, Dillet, all of them. Only a prime Flex beats a prime Heath and even then it's arguable. A Prime Ronnie beats a prime Heath. That's for sure. I'd say a prime Dorian beats a prime Heath. A Prime Haney beats a prime Heath. Other than that, Heath beats em.
He still looks like a bloofy glazed donut, like most of the current bodybuilders.
It doesn't look like he has any muscle maturity, like the muscles are just puffed up.
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Please post shots from the 90s that equal or best that, that are not of Flex, Dorian or Ronnie.
This beats Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, Francois, Newman, Dillet, all of them. Only a prime Flex beats a prime Heath and even then it's arguable. A Prime Ronnie beats a prime Heath. That's for sure. I'd say a prime Dorian beats a prime Heath. A Prime Haney beats a prime Heath. Other than that, Heath beats em.
id agree with most of that Yates in 1993 and 1995 and 96 would more than Likey beat Phils best, Ronnie would during most of his reign, flex in 1993 and maybe 99, Lee Haney would have too be in his 1986 and 1991 condition witch was incredible , everyone else would struggle with Heath who's pretty much the complete package when @ his best, levrone and Ray @ their best would push him hard as well but would more than Likey come runner up too Heath.
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Ex presidents do speeches why doesn't lavrone just get in his best shape and do a tour probably make more money that way.It would-be more fun.No down side.No pressure .People would like to see an in shape lavrone guest pose as much as they would an off season top pro.
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I also think Cormier would beat Phil. Cormier was pretty consistent, and is far more complete and more aesthetic.
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I also think Cormier would beat Phil. Cormier was pretty consistent, and is far more complete and more aesthetic.
parker i have to agree with you on that one
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I also think Cormier would beat Phil. Cormier was pretty consistent, and is far more complete and more aesthetic.
Structurally destroys Heath, not the best shot of him but you get the idea
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to me this is the most pleasing physique to ever place foot on a stage the past 23 years.
this is coming from a yates fan during that time frame.
flex was just beautiful to look at . i was a fan of levrone to, but he could never match flex at his best.
theres a reason why yates said he viewed flex as the only threat to his reign
flexs smokes that clown ronnie as well in this comparison
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Levrone looks better tbh
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to me this is the most pleasing physique to ever place foot on a stage the past 23 years.
this is coming from a yates fan during that time frame.
flex was just beautiful to look at . i was a fan of levrone to, but he could never match flex at his best.
theres a reason why yates said he viewed flex as the only threat to his reign
flexs smokes that clown ronnie as well in this comparison
WHEELER was so gifted and responsive to 'stuff'he could have had the best of everything if he wanted,he was lazy at time took it for granted,his legs 92-96 were peeled and if he wanted they could have been even bigger ,like shawn ray he to cut back from being bottom heavy,,,wheelers feathered look to his quads were pretty awesome thats all he needed,from the side as stated hear many times were freaky 'hams'
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I agree with Wiggs Phil is actually that good. Dorian's condition would beat him. Ronnie in 1998-9 would easily and probably many other years but Heath has showed up in condition every year bar last years pre judging.
Heath is pretty complete all anyone can say is he's narrow or has a weak chest well so did Flex.
Flex and Levrone were inconsistent so pics here were comparing Heath to their best.
I remember being on here in 2005 and Ronnie was getting bashed saying he shouldn't be champ and no-one questions that year ever.
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WHEELER was so gifter and responsive to 'stuff'he could have had the best of everything if he wanted,he was lazy at time took it for granted,his legs 92-96 were peeled and if he wanted they could have been even bigger ,like shawn ray he to cut back from being bottom heavy,,,wheelers feathered look to his quads were pretty awesome thats all he needed,from the side as stated hear many times were freaky 'hams'
nj you got that right he responded to gear petty well, considering when you watch how he trained.
even better he blew all his money on cars and houses he couldnt afford .
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flex in 93 looks weak, not strong, yeah he looks awesome but that is the most overrated look in bodybuilding ever
heath gets LevrOWNED, don't care how good his back is when he looks like shit from the front
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Phils arms are very asymmetrical. His left arm drastically overpowers his right arm. Very strange looking. And it's not the way his hands are placed, since the asymmetry is apparent in his other poses. Phil does look pretty freaky in this pic, but I still prefer Levrones physique.
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Damn Kevin had some forearms on him. Heath is known for spectacular forearms however in this comparison Kevin takes it!
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id agree with most of that Yates in 1993 and 1995 and 96 would more than Likey beat Phils best, Ronnie would during most of his reign, flex in 1993 and maybe 99, Lee Haney would have too be in his 1986 and 1991 condition witch was incredible , everyone else would struggle with Heath who's pretty much the complete package when @ his best, levrone and Ray @ their best would push him hard as well but would more than Likey come runner up too Heath.
1996 Dorian was depleted, as was Levrone and Francois that Mr Olympia.
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Please post shots from the 90s that equal or best that, that are not of Flex, Dorian or Ronnie.
This beats Ray, Levrone, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, Francois, Newman, Dillet, all of them. Only a prime Flex beats a prime Heath and even then it's arguable. A Prime Ronnie beats a prime Heath. That's for sure. I'd say a prime Dorian beats a prime Heath. A Prime Haney beats a prime Heath. Other than that, Heath beats em.
Cormier can't match Phil's back shots and would get crushed in the bdb shot
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Philsulin wrecks any version of flex.
1993 is all lighting. Bedroom, kitchen lighting, Literally has no legs there.
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Phil has more mass, but I think ray is better. Aesthetics for the win.
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Agree.
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Kev was definetely not as smart as Nasser business-wise, enjoying retirement as a millionaire at 300 pds with abs 8)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/nasser4v.jpg)
Millionaire? Didn't he worked at a gas station after retirement?