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Title: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Thong Maniac on June 06, 2016, 03:37:14 PM
been doing reverse pyramid training but feel like i hit a wall. strength progression stopped.

any good splits of low volume, heavy(er) style training that will help a natty pack on a couple lbs? i cant really do deads or squats due to scolosis and a super flat lower back (no arch, pancake ass). bench is the only compound lift i can handle now, but would actually even like to stick to hammer strength presses if possible. i figure if your overloading your muscle with heavy low reps, it shouldnt matter. but i dont know
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Ron Jeremy on June 06, 2016, 03:50:18 PM
Wendler 5/3/1 program.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: hardgainerj on June 06, 2016, 03:52:03 PM
construction work
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 06, 2016, 03:58:08 PM
You may need to take a layoff.  
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: a_pupil on June 06, 2016, 04:12:44 PM
try out jason blaha's program: Leave 1 in the Tank

3 x per week:

1 x 5 deadlift, 1 x 5 incline bench press, 1 x 5 push press
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: The Scott on June 06, 2016, 04:14:08 PM
construction work

Yup. At least a week and at most a month. 
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: hardgainerj on June 06, 2016, 04:27:28 PM
Yup. At least a week and at most a month. 
great for developing functional strength
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: The Scott on June 06, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
great for developing functional strength

A friend worked construction in the 70s.  He had tremendous functional strength that translated well to this workouts in the gym.   Me?  I dug ditches.  I drank whole milk, kefir and even whipping creme just for the calories.   
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: The Scott on June 06, 2016, 04:34:31 PM
You may need to take a layoff.  

I recently took a week off the gym.  It felt good returning. Rested and excited again. After over 40 years of training I am still going.  ;D
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Hulkotron on June 06, 2016, 04:34:45 PM
6 reps for strength
8 reps for mass
12 reps for cuts
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Royalty on June 06, 2016, 05:07:43 PM
6 reps for strength
8 reps for mass
12 reps for cuts

1 rep for power
15 reps for veins
20 reps for endurance
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: hardgainerj on June 06, 2016, 05:09:23 PM
A friend worked construction in the 70s.  He had tremendous functional strength that translated well to this workouts in the gym.   Me?  I dug ditches.  I drank whole milk, kefir and even whipping creme just for the calories.   
a calorie is a calorie on a construction site
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Henda on June 07, 2016, 04:23:22 AM
http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2011/09/getting-jacked-part-4-lift-run-bang.html?m=1

http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2011/09/getting-jacked-part-5-lift-run-bang.html?m=1

I really like this program it has a variety of everything
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: a_pupil on June 07, 2016, 04:59:29 AM
thong maniac, you overthink things bro. training is simple.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2016, 05:31:46 AM
been doing reverse pyramid training but feel like i hit a wall. strength progression stopped.

any good splits of low volume, heavy(er) style training that will help a natty pack on a couple lbs? i cant really do deads or squats due to scolosis and a super flat lower back (no arch, pancake ass). bench is the only compound lift i can handle now, but would actually even like to stick to hammer strength presses if possible. i figure if your overloading your muscle with heavy low reps, it shouldnt matter. but i dont know
Rich (Oldtimer1) is the guy to ask.. pm him he likes low sets and intensity and i have seen a pic of his results. Good man been around the Iron game a while. Also gets his cardio in and has found his sweet spot in training. Normally does 2 sets per exercise.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: _aj_ on June 07, 2016, 10:40:56 AM
Rich (Oldtimer1) is the guy to ask.. pm him he likes low sets and intensity and i have seen a pic of his results. Good man been around the Iron game a while. Also gets his cardio in and has found his sweet spot in training. Normally does 2 sets per exercise.

God help you if you've even been on the joose.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2016, 10:51:15 AM
God help you if you've even been on the joose.
-aj- i like you and i like Rich. I write regularly with him and i have seen his pictures. He is a good Man trust me. Ex Cop and has served.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: calfzilla on June 07, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
You change your workout routine more than ayoneni know   
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Thong Maniac on June 07, 2016, 07:50:52 PM
im starting to realize, im never going to look how i want.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: _aj_ on June 08, 2016, 02:55:41 AM
im starting to realize, im never going to look how i want.

Brother, that's an important first step. Strive for improvement, not your image of perfection.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2016, 02:39:27 AM
Try PHA training ... Builds muscle,stamina and the idea is not to get a pump in any body part.
http://ditillo2.blogspot.de/2009/04/advanced-pha-bob-gajda.html
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2016, 03:21:42 AM
 :)
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Rammstein on June 16, 2016, 03:23:08 AM
Check out Pavel's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Bodybuilding-Strength-Training-Renaissance/dp/0938045660

An if in doubt, just follow Bugenhagen's channel and advice:



Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Thong Maniac on June 16, 2016, 04:09:45 AM
Try PHA training ... Builds muscle,stamina and the idea is not to get a pump in any body part.
http://ditillo2.blogspot.de/2009/04/advanced-pha-bob-gajda.html

100 sets per day? no thanks man. maybe for someone on gear who wants to take a break from heavy weights. this defeats the purpose of my thread topic
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Thong Maniac on June 16, 2016, 04:12:17 AM
Check out Pavel's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Bodybuilding-Strength-Training-Renaissance/dp/0938045660

An if in doubt, just follow Bugenhagen's channel and advice:





thanks for sharing this, ha he is funny
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Rammstein on June 16, 2016, 04:18:53 AM
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And most impressively all done in his basement. The king of odd lifts!
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Donny on June 17, 2016, 04:43:26 AM
100 sets per day? no thanks man. maybe for someone on gear who wants to take a break from heavy weights. this defeats the purpose of my thread topic
you can tailor it to your wishes. I mean the idea is good. I have used PHA myself. you will break sweat. There are great articles out there that show  watered down versions. Remember Gadja was Mr America and a Professional. Itīs like any routine it has to be tailored to you.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Thong Maniac on June 17, 2016, 05:06:48 AM
you can tailor it to your wishes. I mean the idea is good. I have used PHA myself. you will break sweat. There are great articles out there that show  watered down versions. Remember Gadja was Mr America and a Professional. Itīs like any routine it has to be tailored to you.

thanks for sharing, definitely never heard of him so i will look into it more for sure. man i just have this love hate relationship with weights right now. i feel like im not cut out or built to lift heavy, but i want to do it and grow dense muscle. scolosis and flat lower back/pancake ass doesnt help, always feel like im one little slip away from fucking my back up everytime i drop the bar to go down for a dead or squat. like i can almost feel my lower back about to snag up.
Title: Re: need new routine, sick of BBing style pump training
Post by: Donny on June 17, 2016, 07:15:44 AM
thanks for sharing, definitely never heard of him so i will look into it more for sure. man i just have this love hate relationship with weights right now. i feel like im not cut out or built to lift heavy, but i want to do it and grow dense muscle. scolosis and flat lower back/pancake ass doesnt help, always feel like im one little slip away from fucking my back up everytime i drop the bar to go down for a dead or squat. like i can almost feel my lower back about to snag up.
no need to squat or deadlift. There are lots of other exercises to use. Maybe front squats are better for you. Leg press(legs) and Hypers for lower back. Donīt get into the trap of thinking the only way is Deadlifts and squats. Same with flat Bench press for chest. Use other principles to tax your muscles. Tri sets, super sets..etc. Make a moderate weight heavy. Pre exhaust your legs...