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Here is a post that was recently deleted, and I see no reason why it should have been. ???
do u ever wonder why pros feel the need to blatantly lie...
"eg
the first time i walked into the gym i benched 315... wjen i was 15 yrs ago...
what bullshit....
or i was 240 naturally... before i started training...
my arms were 19 inches before i started trainin???
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- mesmorph78
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i'm going to wait a minute to post because i had a long ass post and it got deleted.
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the funny thing is that if you believed some of these clowns you'd believe that they could all bench 650, squat 800, pull 550 lb. barbell rows, have Masters degrees in nuclear physics, benched 405 at age 13 the first time in the gym are 5'8" 320 lbs. and 5 percent BF in the offseason and make 10 figures anually. ::)
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Because my friend, 95% of BB's are ego maniacs. Also the same reason I tell people my arms are 17 1/2 when they are 17 and my weight is 215 when its 205 8)
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Jay said he bench pressed 315 at age 18 the first day he set foot in a gym.
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i think that part of it is that people expect pro bodybuilders to be superhuman because of the way the look so they inflate lifts to go along with this, i mean how exciting does it sound for a pro to say, "i don't even do barbell benches and squats, i use machines for the majority of my training and i use a shitload of different drugs".
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Jay said he bench pressed 315 at age 18 the first day he set foot in a gym.
is that legit?
didnt he start training at 15? - (the pic of him outside his farm aged 15)
315 is bullshit for the first timein gym
ive seen people hit 225 in a few months - for a rep only.
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is that legit?
didnt he start training at 15? - (the pic of him outside his farm aged 15)
315 is bullshit for the first timein gym
ive seen people hit 225 in a few months - for a rep only.
He started bodybuilding at age 18. There are pics of him at that age and he was pretty big.
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Guys, seriously. They're professional athletes. If they were caught in a lie, they'd lose their lucrative endorsement deals. I talk to this pro everyday who got a $4.3 MILLION dollar deal from a company. And he's not even a top guy.
If you think they'd screw up that kinda money by doing drugs, telling lies, or insulting fans, then you're just crazy.
Hey....if you train for 30 years & become a mediocre 3rd tier pro.....
you should make 4.3 million too
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but when they come off the juice...
they look like the walkin dead....
same reason fake plates are used for photo shoots... t try to make out as if they are way beyond mere mortals....
then why u buy the trainin videos.. u see that is quite not the case... barring maybe coleman.. despite the fact that yes he is damn strong but he is like 300lb so he should be moving those weights and more...
actually his is the only video ive watched with decent weight been lifted.. him and levrone....
if u benched 300lb when u first walked into a gym first try ::)...
after 15 yrs of trainin you should be benchin 600 or 700... ::)
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Here is a post that was recently deleted, and I see no reason why it should have been. ???
do u ever wonder why pros feel the need to blatantly lie...
"eg
the first time i walked into the gym i benched 315... wjen i was 15 yrs ago...
what bullshit....
or i was 240 naturally... before i started training...
my arms were 19 inches before i started trainin???
::)"
- mesmorph78
it's funny you bring this up, cause just yesterday I read something onbb.com where Tom P. says he was 240 naturally, before ever doing his first cycle..........240 at what bf 30%? ::)
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240 my in his dreams
the same way he keeps sayin he is 230 now..
when he looks like he is 150... (no disrespect meant to his kidney problem)
if he is 230 then ::) i'm 280
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he meant 240 with the dialysis machine attached.
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it's funny you bring this up, cause just yesterday I read something onbb.com where Tom P. says he was 240 naturally, before ever doing his first cycle..........240 at what bf 30%? ::)
240 or Bust? ??? :D
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I just find it hilarious that 240 had a meltdown on this board on December 5 at 8:18PM, deleted his account and said he was done with getbig for good, and then was posting again under a new account before 8:30PM that same night lol.
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Pros lie for the same reason alomost EVERY Joe Blow or Al Bundy lies about their athletic prowess.
Being a pro more tend to hear it, give it a tad of serious thought before the realize it is was BS.
What is ironic is that for all the pros we crack on, Ronnie is pretty legit with his size and wts lfted in the gym claims, which are incredible and would seem like pure BS for any other guy....except in Ronnie Colemans case , they seem "normal".
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I just find it hilarious that 240 had a meltdown on this board on December 5 at 8:18PM, deleted his account and said he was done with getbig for good, and then was posting again under a new account before 8:30PM that same night lol.
he has amazing recuperative abilities . . . like many of the pros.
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I believe some pros were genetic freaks before drugs but most are just hyper responders to steroids....
Look at mass construction.. Before juice flex was fucking TINY..... Good structure yes.... Nice muscle shape. but fact is without the juice he would have just been some other ripped black dude. He was hailed as having some of the best genetics ever yet without steroids he would have been a bean pole.
In my mind crazy genetics are those who are not just Solly hyper responder to big doses of juice and growth. These are dudes that are obviously great responders to drugs but posses great shape size and condition without juice to begin with
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coleman life are ok...
like charles glass said...
he is 300 lbs when u take that into consideration... he lifts are good not.... out of the world...
and anybody who trains hard will know that...coleman benches 500 for 4...
i bench 374.. im not 200lb and im natural
coleman deads 800
i dead 500
...and etc etc...
anyway ike i said aside from him and levrone... nobody else lifts anythng that impresses me...
so if jay culter did indeed bench 315 on his first gym visit... : ::)
next time he makes a video i would like to see how far he has progressed in oundage from benchin 315 on his first try... ::)
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coleman life are ok...
like charles glass said...
he is 300 lbs when u take that into consideration... he lifts are good not.... out of the world...
and anybody who trains hard will know that...coleman benches 500 for 4...
i bench 374.. im not 200lb and im natural
coleman deads 800
i dead 500
...and etc etc...
anyway ike i said aside from him and levrone... nobody else lifts anythng that impresses me...
so if jay culter did indeed bench 315 on his first gym visit... : ::)
next time he makes a video i would like to see how far he has profressed in oundage from benchin 315 on his first try... ::)
actually there's a HUGE difference between your 335 for 4 reps and Colmans 500 for 4 and his 800 DL and your 500, it doesn't sound like it but when you're at your maximum it's huge.
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Why do some pros lie?
Why do some Matthews tell the truth?
A stupid question for a stupid question..... :o
Speak.
DIV
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coleman has someone measures his carbs.. protein....
eats vasts amounts.... like other pros.. takes supplements for everything various kinds of steroids .. growth hormone... and god knows what else... all he does is train sleep and eat....
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he should be liftin even heavier than he does... tough he does lift heavy...
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i live on 2 meals a day... little sleep... no supplements diet nada...
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Pros and roids:
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10069
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coleman has someone measures his carbs.. protein....
eats vasts amounts.... like other pros.. takes supplements for everything various kinds of steroids .. growth hormone... and god knows what else... all he does is train sleep and eat....
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he should be liftin even heavier than he does... tough he does lift heavy...
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i live on 2 meals a day... little sleep... no supplements diet nada...
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that's like saying that 350 lb. powerliftrers who have been training for 25-30 years should be benching 3000lbs. and squatting 5000, the human body has it's limits and i doubt even with juice that you would ever hit 550 for a single on the bench like Coleman does.
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coleman has someone measures his carbs.. protein....
eats vasts amounts.... like other pros.. takes supplements for everything various kinds of steroids .. growth hormone... and god knows what else... all he does is train sleep and eat...
And as soon as a pro strays from this bizarre lifestyle to enjoy himself/herself theyre considerred 'not serious' 'on the way out' etc.
pfffffffffffft to that i say
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Why do some Matthews tell the truth?
A stupid question for a stupid question..... :o
Speak.
DIV
Are you saying this is a stupid question? >:(
Speak on this. ;D
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The pros don't lie. Tom Prince was 230 pounds at 5-7 before any gear. Tom used mild cycles, which add 5-10% , as a finishing touch.
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i live on 2 meals a day... little sleep... no supplements diet nada...
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The pros don't lie. Tom Prince was 230 pounds at 5-7 before any gear. Tom used mild cycles, which add 5-10% , as a finishing touch.
;D ;D
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Jay Cutler...funny, i've seen him struggling with 4 plates on each side of the leg press on single legs fresh after being in the gym for 5 minutes so I know he wasn't pre-exhausted! As sarcasm would say...(this is were sarcasm chimes in next post)
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Jay Cutler...funny, i've seen him struggling with 4 plates on each side of the leg press on single legs fresh after being in the gym for 5 minutes so I know he wasn't pre-exhausted! As sarcasm would say...(this is were sarcasm chimes in next post)
fascinating ::)
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;D ;D
You can ask him yourself ;D Remember, he stills weighs 230, despite all of his health problems.
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A lot of these dudes are chronically overtrained. They go the gym and go through the motions, half assed, leave and call it a day. The drugs keep atrophy and severe overtraining at bay. You can't go for personal bests and balls to the wall intensity if you train 5 days a week or more. You just can't do it.
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A lot of these dudes are chronically overtrained. They go the gym and go through the motions, half assed, leave and call it a day. The drugs keep atrophy and severe overtraining at bay. You can't go for personal bests and balls to the wall intensity if you train 5 days a week or more. You just can't do it.
That's because they are Animal enough to work through injuries. Taking days off is for pussies.
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There is no such thing as overtraining, only undereating. I tore my rotator cuff and left pec and kept eating until they healed. It took four days. THAT is Animal.
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It's an issue of rest not eating. You can argue being nutritionally deprived in some area of your diet but that's hardly ever the case. Tell me you are able to go the gym every day and either get more reps or weight from the last time.
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Most beginners don't train frequently enough. I made huge gains training five to six times a week, sometimes for as long as four hours a day. An advanced lifter obviously can't train with this kind of frequency, but a beginner should be able to do it without too much trouble. You're not going to "overtrain" yourself doing 185 lb benches and 70 lb barbell curls.
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Are you saying this is a stupid question? >:(
Speak on this. ;D
Of course I am, Matthew.
Asking why people lie is like asking why bitches get fu.cked.
It happens for various reasons, but the bottom line is that holes are getting filled.....
Asking why is pointless.
DIV
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he has amazing recuperative abilities . . . like many of the pros.
That is funny. :D
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Jay said he was 16 when he benched 315. QT was the best, he benched 450 as a teen (16 or 18) and was curling 50lb dumbbells when he was 12 ::)
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that's like saying that 350 lb. powerliftrers who have been training for 25-30 years should be benching 3000lbs. and squatting 5000, the human body has it's limits and i doubt even with juice that you would ever hit 550 for a single on the bench like Coleman does.
why do u doubt i could ever bench 550 if i juiced... if coleman poseted here when he was a youngster....and unknown like me.... you would say the same .. to him.. never speak for anyone else... i wouldnt speak for anyone elses potential... because that would be assuming... before flex wheeler went on serious drugs would u ever had imagined he would look like he did... etc etc etc...well then?
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i have seen guys benchin 6 plates and a half a side... 8 reps and thats after pyramiding up i hve seen a guy incline press 5 plates on the smith machin 10 reps un aided..
seen amateur african guys in my university gym at the time throuwing around 5 plates on bench... and these werent bodybuilders either... these were recrational lifters like myself... my old trainin partner... sqaut 6 plates ass to the grass.. and he weighs the same as me...
this is why i am not overly impressed with lifts i see..
because i have good genetics... so when i hear dexter or cormier say oh i dont diet till X weeks out... im not blown away because majority of black men from the part of the world i originate from... dont have to diet... and will be what a lot of people... see as ripped
and ive trained with people who are really strong.. minus all the "help" that pros have
that is why im not overly impressed....easily... even charles glass said it.. coleman is strong but not out of the world strong... charles glass himself has benched 500lb.. at a lower weight ...
im just sayin a lot of lifts some pros make arent as superhuman as one might think..
but then again its not powerlifting so i guess that pint is moot :-X
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why do u doubt i could ever bench 550 if i juiced... if coleman poseted here when he was a youngster....and unknown like me.... you would say the same .. to him.. never speak for anyone else... i wouldnt speak for anyone elses potential... because that would be assuming... before flex wheeler went on serious drugs would u ever had imagined he would look like he did... etc etc etc...well then?
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i have seen guys benchin 6 plates and a half a side... 8 reps and thats after pyramiding up i hve seen a guy incline press 5 plates on the smith machin 10 reps un aided..
seen amateur african guys in my university gym at the time throuwing around 5 plates on bench... and these werent bodybuilders either... these were recrational lifters like myself... my old trainin partner... sqaut 6 plates ass to the grass.. and he weighs the same as me...
this is why i am not overly impressed with lifts i see..
because i have good genetics... so when i hear dexter or cormier say oh i dont diet till X weeks out... im not blown away because majority of black men from the part of the world i originate from... dont have to diet... and will be what a lot of people... see as ripped
and ive trained with people who are really strong.. minus all the "help" that pros have
that is why im not overly impressed....easily... even charles glass said it.. coleman is strong but not out of the world strong... charles glass himself has benched 500lb.. at a lower weight ...
im just sayin a lot of lifts some pros make arent as superhuman as one might think..
but then again its not powerlifting so i guess that pint is moot :-X
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hahahahahahahahaha, that ios literally the biggest bullshit post i've ever read, you've seen guys becnh 635lbs. for 8 reps, hahahahahahahaha, was his name Anthony Clark, no one on earth can bench 635 for 8 reps without a shirt even with a shirt would be doubtful, you're a moron.
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hahahahahahahahaha, that ios literally the biggest bullshit post i've ever read, you've seen guys becnh 635lbs. for 8 reps, hahahahahahahaha, was his name Anthony Clark, no one on earth can bench 635 for 8 reps without a shirt even with a shirt would be doubtful, you're a moron.
635 for 8 reps..Now that's the funniest shit i heard all week..
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yeah... its a lie...
i made it up...why because...
motive
1. I'm being paid $50000 by the fbi to do so.... no apparent reason...
2. And im gonna get pussy by telling this lie....
the 2 main motives that drive men sex and money... and im gettin both for making this up...
;)
oh to add to my "lies" I regulary train in jd dawudos gym and around 2 weeks ago he was trainin and i saw him bench 5 plates unaided 8 reps.. probably more i dint catch him on the first rep and that was after pyramiding up too.
but of cousre because flex magazine...hasnt stated it... or it hasnt been published on a video... its a lie?
8)
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Here's one;
"I'm better than Shawn Ray and I'll be the next Mr.Olympia".
King Kamali ::)
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he is the worst...
it states that his bench is 550... ::) fine...
cool
but why is it every tape i watch with him.... he has a spotter for everything....
he had a guy spotting him for deadlifts... grinding on his ass... not even real deads... sissy rack deadlifts...
theseare the huys who tell u in flex.. dont lift weight u cant move.. and control..
yet he has 3 spotter on squats...
see a lot of people blast on cratch... and adonis because they keep stating that without juice a lot of these guys would be rice krispies.... but there is some truth to it... a lot in fact... king kamali.... case in point
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but when they come off the juice...
they look like the walkin dead....
same reason fake plates are used for photo shoots... t try to make out as if they are way beyond mere mortals....
then why u buy the trainin videos.. u see that is quite not the case... barring maybe coleman.. despite the fact that yes he is damn strong but he is like 300lb so he should be moving those weights and more...
actually his is the only video ive watched with decent weight been lifted.. him and levrone....
if u benched 300lb when u first walked into a gym first try ::)...
after 15 yrs of trainin you should be benchin 600 or 700... ::)
Don't forget Fux. He used real ones too.
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yeah... its a lie...
i made it up...why because...
motive
1. I'm being paid $50000 by the fbi to do so.... no apparent reason...
2. And im gonna get pussy by telling this lie....
the 2 main motives that drive men sex and money... and im gettin both for making this up...
;)
oh to add to my "lies" I regulary train in jd dawudos gym and around 2 weeks ago he was trainin and i saw him bench 5 plates unaided 8 reps.. probably more i dint catch him on the first rep and that was after pyramiding up too.
but of cousre because flex magazine...hasnt stated it... or it hasnt been published on a video... its a lie?
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you said six and a half plates not five.
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Here is a post that was recently deleted, and I see no reason why it should have been. ???
do u ever wonder why pros feel the need to blatantly lie...
"eg
the first time i walked into the gym i benched 315... wjen i was 15 yrs ago...
what bullshit....
or i was 240 naturally... before i started training...
my arms were 19 inches before i started trainin???
::)"
- mesmorph78
SOME?!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
100% natural. Hard work. That's it. Hard work. 100% natural. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i have seen guys benchin 6 plates and a half a side... 8 reps
If you're going to make shit up, at least give plausible numbers...
And you talk about eating 2 meals a day, getting little sleep, no supplementation, working long hours at a physically demanding job, it's hard to believe that with that kind of lifestyle you have built up a physique and you've shown. Granted, you have great genetics but that just does not add up.
You were Ok in my book, but now your credibility is questionable...
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Jay said he was 16 when he benched 315. QT was the best, he benched 450 as a teen (16 or 18) and was curling 50lb dumbbells when he was 12 ::)
Some people do have strong exercises when they were young. I was curling 50's when I was 15, not for full sets but for 3-4 reps per arm. I was able to squat 635lbs when I was 18, and have proof, since it was the fifth best on the team when I got to play college football.
Personally, I'm still a bitch when it comes to bench. I'm 285 right now and that's exactly what I can put up, for about 4 reps.
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why do u doubt i could ever bench 550 if i juiced... if coleman poseted here when he was a youngster....and unknown like me.... you would say the same .. to him.. never speak for anyone else... i wouldnt speak for anyone elses potential... because that would be assuming... before flex wheeler went on serious drugs would u ever had imagined he would look like he did... etc etc etc...well then?
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i have seen guys benchin 6 plates and a half a side... 8 reps and thats after pyramiding up i hve seen a guy incline press 5 plates on the smith machin 10 reps un aided..
seen amateur african guys in my university gym at the time throuwing around 5 plates on bench... and these werent bodybuilders either... these were recrational lifters like myself... my old trainin partner... sqaut 6 plates ass to the grass.. and he weighs the same as me...
this is why i am not overly impressed with lifts i see..
because i have good genetics... so when i hear dexter or cormier say oh i dont diet till X weeks out... im not blown away because majority of black men from the part of the world i originate from... dont have to diet... and will be what a lot of people... see as ripped
and ive trained with people who are really strong.. minus all the "help" that pros have
that is why im not overly impressed....easily... even charles glass said it.. coleman is strong but not out of the world strong... charles glass himself has benched 500lb.. at a lower weight ...
im just sayin a lot of lifts some pros make arent as superhuman as one might think..
but then again its not powerlifting so i guess that pint is moot :-X
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^When are you going to learn that arguing with Mirzy is pointless.
Even if you win, what have you won?
You kids fall for this everytime.
DIV
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If you're going to make shit up, at least give plausible numbers...
And you talk about eating 2 meals a day, getting little sleep, no supplementation, working long hours at a physically demanding job, it's hard to believe that with that kind of lifestyle you have built up a physique and you've shown. Granted, you have great genetics but that just does not add up.
You were Ok in my book, but now your credibility is questionable...
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do u really think my life is anyhow affected by what u think of my credibility???
no?
then above u made a pointless statement....
... i have no need to lie.... u are goin to sit 1000's of miles away from me and tell me how i have built my physique???...
why i cant have built it on what i stated ...
because u couldnt.... or cant...
man please...
what i have stated is what happened and what i have seen...
whetehr u belive or not... doesnt reallly matter...
concentrate on building ur physique... with whatever means... control your shit...
dont try to tell me what i have or have not done with mine
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do u really think my life is anyhow affected by what u think of my credibility???
no?
then above u made a pointless statement....
... i have no need to lie.... u are goin to sit 1000's of miles away from me and tell me how i have built my physique???...
why i cant have built it on what i stated ...
because u couldnt.... or cant...
man please...
what i have stated is what happened and what i have seen...
whetehr u belive or not... doesnt reallly matter...
concentrate on building ur physique... with whatever means... control your shit...
dont try to tell me what i have or have not done with mine
^Stop letting people get you so worked up over a message board.
It only makes you look like a child.
Don't justify yourself to people who don't deserve an explanation.
You still haven't learned.
DIV
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@div.
i hear you... man
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but some time it just suprises me how people think...
anyway im in the process right now of postin some trainin footage over in the picture forum..
just for some clarity
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^When are you going to learn that arguing with Mirzy is pointless.
Even if you win, what have you won?
You kids fall for this everytime.
DIV
see Div the funny thing is that when you talk to people it seems that everybody and their brother benches 600 pounds but how often in everyday life do you even see people bench 4 plates with decent form, almose never in 95 percent of gyms and when i point out that someone is lying then i'm the asshole forgive me if i have trouble believing that this clown saw someone bench 635 pounds for 8 reps.
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do u really think my life is anyhow affected by what u think of my credibility???
no?
then above u made a pointless statement....
... i have no need to lie.... u are goin to sit 1000's of miles away from me and tell me how i have built my physique???...
why i cant have built it on what i stated ...
because u couldnt.... or cant...
man please...
what i have stated is what happened and what i have seen...
whetehr u belive or not... doesnt reallly matter...
concentrate on building ur physique... with whatever means... control your shit...
dont try to tell me what i have or have not done with mine
Relax, I was being cynical, no offence if it came out the way you interpreted it. I didn't mean that how you live has anything to do with it, and I'm in no position to judge in that regard. Things are possible with hard work & dedication. My bad.
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failed, jealous, envious, hateful mutherfuckers >:(
......getbiggers not the pros :)
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failed, jealous, envious, hateful mutherfuckers >:(
......getbiggers not the pros :)
meltdown.
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see Div the funny thing is that when you talk to people it seems that everybody and their brother benches 600 pounds but how often in everyday life do you even see people bench 4 plates with decent form, almose never in 95 percent of gyms and when i point out that someone is lying then i'm the asshole forgive me if i have trouble believing that this clown saw someone bench 635 pounds for 8 reps.
Very true sarcasm. That's what i was talking about with Matt last week on another thread
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the father of my ex girlfriend did 5 plate and a half on each side but he had a shirt
My friend at 19 bench 3 plate and a half for 2 shot
my training partner reps with 405 on the incline ( he is really big 5"7 250 )
other than that for the 3 years or so I've been training I didn't see someone who bench really heavy .
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I can say that I've never personally seen anyone doing four plates for reps, or even for singles, at any gym I've been to with an exception of a powerlifter who trained at the same gym I did in 2001, and even he only went up to four plates.
it's a lot rarer than people think, if you believed everything you read on this board you would think that 80 percent of the male population of the US benches 405, i've been training seriously since i was 19, i'm 34 now, and i've seen literally 9 or 10 guys legitimately bench 405 or over and most only did it for a single, one guy who was a national level APF powerlifter at 242 could do 5 or 6 on a good day and a Samoan freak of nature i saw do 11 or 12 reps with it and 5 reps with 5 plates.
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reading the boards you would think that benching 315 is really weak
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no offense to Stavios because i believe him but most of the claims are like his first one about the ex girl's dad, usually something like my brother's uncle's best friend works with a guy who goes out with a girl who lives up the street from a guy who did some plumbing work for a guy who knows a guy who benched 925 for 3 reps but had to give up lifting because he had a kid.
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it's a lot rarer than people think, if you believed everything you read on this board you would think that 80 percent of the male population of the US benches 405, i've been training seriously since i was 19, i'm 34 now, and i've seen literally 9 or 10 guys legitimately bench 405 or over and most only did it for a single, one guy who was a national level APF powerlifter at 242 could do 5 or 6 on a good day and a Samoan freak of nature i saw do 11 or 12 reps with it and 5 reps with 5 plates.
Indeed. I been to Golds, Worlds, and a few other gyms where you would expect to find serious or "hardcore" lifters. I've only seen one guy bench 405 for about 5 reps and I spotted him. We talked on a few occasions, he is natural, a big mofo, about 6'2" and and around 300 lbs. That was back in 99. Guys benching 405 plus are few are far between. Probably in the 99.9 percentile in the male population. Even 315 for 10 you won't see often.
635X8 has mesmorph stated, I'd have to see, maybe he can post a clip of this guy.
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no offense to Stavios because i believe him but most of the claims are like his first one about the ex girl's dad, usually something like my brother's uncle's best friend works with a guy who goes out with a girl who lives up the street from a guy who did some plumbing work for a guy who knows a guy who benched 925 for 3 reps but had to give up lifting because he had a kid.
Yeah I know I have no proof to confirm what I say.
I could say I bench 500 instead of my 315 but what would it give me ?
I never believe the claims I read and the best example for this is the pics of Frozzor. ;)
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that was a good while ago.. at the first gym i ever trained at
that guy... that was years ago .. he was short and thick... big gut but he was verrrrry thick.. late 30's ... he did have a spot admittedly...for the latter reps.. but for the first 3 or 4... after the bar was unracked no one touched the bar...
until like i said the latter reps.. it blew my mind.... but i know what my eyes saw...
my brother was there as well.. or i probably would have thought i imagined it...
above someone said seein 315 benched for 10 is a rare sight...
i dont agree next time i bench which will be tommorow... i will tape it... got 315 for 8 unassisted last time i benched... prior to which i hadnt benched for a while..
and im nuttin special..
what a lot of people fail to realise is a lot of genetic freaks are unknown...strong big guys.. ive trained in a lot of hardcore gyms in my short time of trainin.... so i have seen some crazy things...
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the father of my ex girlfriend did 5 plate and a half on each side but he had a shirt
My friend at 19 bench 3 plate and a half for 2 shot
my training partner reps with 405 on the incline ( he is really big 5"7 250 )
other than that for the 3 years or so I've been training I didn't see someone who bench really heavy .
I got you beat. My ex girlfriend ate 5 plates at Hometown Buffet in just one shot.
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see Div the funny thing is that when you talk to people it seems that everybody and their brother benches 600 pounds but how often in everyday life do you even see people bench 4 plates with decent form, almose never in 95 percent of gyms and when i point out that someone is lying then i'm the asshole forgive me if i have trouble believing that this clown saw someone bench 635 pounds for 8 reps.
I agree with you Mirzy, I'm just pointing out that it's funny how people let you get under their skin so easily....
Esp when your name is sarcasm. You'd think they would "get it" by now.
It's funny shit, though.......
DIV
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I got you beat. My ex girlfriend ate 5 plates at Hometown Buffet in just one shot.
:o
was she attractive ? ;D
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Indeed. I been to Golds, Worlds, and a few other gyms where you would expect to find serious or "hardcore" lifters. I've only seen one guy bench 405 for about 5 reps and I spotted him. We talked on a few occasions, he is natural, a big mofo, about 6'2" and and around 300 lbs. That was back in 99. Guys benching 405 plus are few are far between. Probably in the 99.9 percentile in the male population. Even 315 for 10 you won't see often.
635X8 has mesmorph stated, I'd have to see, maybe he can post a clip of this guy.
youll never see it because mesomorph is either lying or he doesn't remember correctly, if that guy did bench six plates and a quarter on each side for 8 reps that would make him the best bencher ever, even better than Scott Mendelson who has the record for a shirtless max at 715.
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635 x8 is a load of shit. To put this in perspective u put that in a 1RM calculater and it equals 788 Raw max....so this means that this random guy could bench 63 lbs more than the most ever done raw and 127 lbs more than the most Kaz ever did? ::)
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635 x8 is a load of shit. To put this in perspective u put that in a 1RM calculater and it equals 788 Raw max....so this means that this random guy could bench 63 lbs more than the most ever done raw and 127 lbs more than the most Kaz ever did? ::)
like i said he's lying his ass off.
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I believe some pros were genetic freaks before drugs but most are just hyper responders to steroids....
Look at mass construction.. Before juice flex was fucking TINY..... Good structure yes.... Nice muscle shape. but fact is without the juice he would have just been some other ripped black dude. He was hailed as having some of the best genetics ever yet without steroids he would have been a bean pole.
In my mind crazy genetics are those who are not just Solly hyper responder to big doses of juice and growth. These are dudes that are obviously great responders to drugs but posses great shape size and condition without juice to begin with
like me :)
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was she attractive ? ;D
She had a great personality
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sure im lyin my ass off....
because i just felt like out of the blue makin up this lie
because y'all have rarley seen people bench over 405...
and the pros mostly max out at 500...
then its impossible anyone anywhere can bench over that...
bcause of couse if u dont see it... its bullshit....
::)
anyway... i kno what i saw...
its unbelivable to ur minds ..how can it be... it wasnt in flex or... documented... therefore its impossible.... bullshit...
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so..
stalemate...
i wont comment further on this
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"i have seen guys benchin 6 plates and a half a side... 8 reps"
6 plates (6 x 45 = 270 lbs), each side (270 lbs x 2 = 540 lbs), plus two half plates (25 x 2 = 50 lbs... + 540 = 590 lbs), plus the bar (590 lbs + 45 lbs = 635 lbs)... which is 635 lbs x 8 ...not very believable.
But what if Mesomorph78 works out in one of those gyms that only have 15 kg plates. My own gym (in Dublin, Ireland) has lots of 15 kg plates that are the same size as regular 45 lb plates, just a little thinner. I've been in several Gyms here in Ireland (and in Spain also) where the 15 kg plates are the only large plates.
A 15 kg plate is only 33 lbs, and it's pretty easy to confuse them as most European manufacturers only print the kilogram denomination on the plate.
That would bring Mesomorph78's claim down from 635 lbs to a more reasonable 491 lbs x 8... or even 485 lbs x 8 if the "half" plates are actually 10 kg (22 lb) plates.
Something to think about....
The Luke
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what is reasonable... who defines it you..... because beyond 500lb is out of the world to you doesnt mean that is the case for everybody
do u even know what you're talkin about...
yesterday evening....
i mesmorph benched 405 for a single...for the first and yes i have it on tape and yes i will post it soon
and im sub 200 lbs... 4 yrs and some trainin now...
and im nuttin great....
take someone better than me... multiply my training yrs by 3. and add 100 to 150 lbs to him....
and add steroids...
and you think a six plate bench is inconcievable....
you joker... why because coleman and them lot cant bench it... so u base ur potential on what coleman and culter does....
i base my potential on time as in... when i cant do it anymore or when im dead.. thats when i max out.... not numbers.. put up by some other guy
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what is reasonable... who defines it you..... because beyond 500lb is out of the world to you doesnt mean that is the case for everybody
do u even know what you're talkin about...
yesterday evening....
i mesmorph benched 405 for a single...for the first and yes i have it on tape and yes i will post it soon
and im sub 200 lbs... 4 yrs and some trainin now...
and im nuttin great....
take someone better than me... multiply my training yrs by 3. and add 100 to 150 lbs to him....
and add steroids...
and you think a six plate bench is inconcievable....
you joker... why because coleman and them lot cant bench it... so u base ur potential on what coleman and culter does....
i base my potential on time as in... when i cant do it anymore or when im dead.. thats when i max out.... not numbers.. put up by some other guy
Just give it up, noone will believe your wild stories. We have all gone to school with that kid who insisted on making stuff up and we are not going to fall for it again ::)
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all this shit coming from a guy who looks like a midget version of Darryl Strawberry.
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doesnt really matter if u belive...
doesnt change what i saw
so..
at this point all i can say is good luck with ur lifting..
and sarcasm i keep tellinyou your... um "wit" is wasted on a guy with a mentality like mine...
u said i look like daryll strawberry at least 7 times now...
wow how witty
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lol
good luck with ur liftin as well
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mes out.
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doesnt really matter if u belive...
doesnt change what i saw
so..
at this point all i can say is good luck with ur lifting..
and sarcasm i keep tellinyou your... um "wit" is wasted on a guy with a mentality like mine...
u said i look like daryll strawberry at least 7 times now...
wow how witty
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lol
good luck with ur liftin as well
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mes out.
good luck with your workout, "mesomorph", hopefully you'll have some more stories for us when you get back like guys squatting 2,000 for 10 and shoulder pressing 350 lb. dumbells for reps. ::)
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good luck with your workout, "mesomorph", hopefully you'll have some more stories for us when you get back like guys squatting 2,000 for 10 and shoulder pressing 350 lb. dumbells for reps. ::)
Nothing is impossible in the gym. Believe to achieve. :)
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Nothing is impossible in the gym. Believe to achieve. :)
ok, "lucious fox", hahahaha.
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Nothing is impossible in the gym. Believe to achieve. :)
wow, you really must've mastered the mind-muscle connection! :o
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ok, "lucious fox", hahahaha.
Don't be so cynical about what is possible. Isaac Nesser was known to bench press 800 pounds for reps, but only in his basement. He was also natural and was featured in the Guiness Book of World Records. Open your mind to new possiblities.
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Don't be so cynical about what is possible. Isaac Nesser was known to bench press 800 pounds for reps, but only in his basement. He was also natural and was featured in the Guiness Book of World Records. Open your mind to new possiblities.
Isn't he the guy featured in Guiness for having the world's largest arms?
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Isn't he the guy featured in Guiness for having the world's largest arms?
Yes he is. And he built them naturally!
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Isaac Nesser is a bullshit artist. He claims he benches over 900 pounds without a shirt, but he won't do it in competition because he "doesn't have anything to prove." Plus there's no mention of him in the Guiness Book of World Records at all.
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Isaac Nesser is a bullshit artist. He claims he benches over 900 pounds without a shirt, but he won't do it in competition because he "doesn't have anything to prove." Plus there's no mention of him in the Guiness Book of World Records at all.
What edition of the Guiness book do you have? Isaac's record was surpassed by a pig farmer with 30-inch muscular arms! Nesser really could lift that much, but people would have accused him of using steroids if he had, and he had too much integrity to use and gain 5-10% on his lifts.
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This is a great thread.....lololol
Some guys are so "uninformed" about numbers, records, weights in general......and are so full of shit........that the numbers they spout off are not even close to reality.....and THEY don't even realize this. Did that make sense?
I have been lucky enough to compete in competitive powerlifting for nearly 20 years....(The former ADFPA) currently USAPL. I have been ranked top 5 in the world (by total) in my wt class (242). My point.....I have seen A LOT! Over the years, I have met and become friends with MANY world record holders, in many weight classes and several federations. I have also been lucky enough to train with several of these lifters.......and watch many of these lifters train. I have trained with, competed with and I am friends with Bill Gillespie (current World Record holder in the bench press (800) Masters division (40-45) 308 lb class. One of my very best friends, Todd Scott owned Sleek Physique in Moses Lake, Wa. A lifter by the name of Ryan Kennelly trained at Sleek Physique. Ryan has bench pressed 700+ in 20 plus competitions. Ryan was also the 1st human to officially bench press 800 in competition. Up until recently Ryan held the 308lb class world record.....903. In 2002, I was training for the USAPL Oregon St and was fortunate enough to train in the same gym (Redmond, Wa) as Jeff Magruder. For many years, Jeff held the Open world bench record in the 242lb class.....639. This was way before the 2 and 3 ply shirts came into play. My entire point.......I have been there, done that........and have just about seen it all. NOBODY......benches more RAW than Ryan Kennelly or Scott Mendelson (current world record holder.....1008) At his best, I have seen Ryan bench 600x4 or 5 RAW. This is basically the strongest bench press SPECIALIST in history. This is what these guys do FOR A LIVING. They don't work a 9-5 shift, drive to the gym and work up to 635x8. Shit.............anyone SQUATTING 635x8 would be considered world class.....atleast in the USAPL.
Before anyone starts "spitting out" these outraqeous numbers, please....do your home work.
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What edition of the Guiness book do you have? Isaac's record was surpassed by a pig farmer with 30-inch muscular arms! Nesser really could lift that much, but people would have accused him of using steroids if he had, and he had too much integrity to use and gain 5-10% on his lifts.
So he doesn't want to prove he can lift 900 pounds in an official competition because people would accuse him of taking steroids? That is the most asinine excuse I've heard in my life. Nesser is a fucking con artist, ask any powerlifter on here and they'll tell you the same thing.
Here's an interview with this assclown.
http://www.criticalbench.com/Isaac-Nesser.htm
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This is a great thread.....lololol
Some guys are so "uninformed" about numbers, records, weights in general......and are so full of shit........that the numbers they spout off are not even close to reality.....and THEY don't even realize this. Did that make sense?
I have been lucky enough to compete in competitive powerlifting for nearly 20 years....(The former ADFPA) currently USAPL. I have been ranked top 5 in the world (by total) in my wt class (242). My point.....I have seen A LOT! Over the years, I have met and become friends with MANY world record holders, in many weight classes and several federations. I have also been lucky enough to train with several of these lifters.......and watch many of these lifters train. I have trained with, competed with and I am friends with Bill Gillespie (current World Record holder in the bench press (800) Masters division (40-45) 308 lb class. One of my very best friends, Todd Scott owned Sleek Physique in Moses Lake, Wa. A lifter by the name of Ryan Kennelly trained at Sleek Physique. Ryan has bench pressed 700+ in 20 plus competitions. Ryan was also the 1st human to officially bench press 800 in competition. Up until recently Ryan held the 308lb class world record.....903. In 2002, I was training for the USAPL Oregon St and was fortunate enough to train in the same gym (Redmond, Wa) as Jeff Magruder. For many years, Jeff held the Open world bench record in the 242lb class.....639. This was way before the 2 and 3 ply shirts came into play. My entire point.......I have been there, done that........and have just about seen it all. NOBODY......benches more RAW than Ryan Kennelly or Scott Mendelson (current world record holder.....1008) At his best, I have seen Ryan bench 600x4 or 5 RAW. This is basically the strongest bench press SPECIALIST in history. This is what these guys do FOR A LIVING. They don't work a 9-5 shift, drive to the gym and work up to 635x8. Shit.............anyone SQUATTING 635x8 would be considered world class.....atleast in the USAPL.
Before anyone starts "spitting out" these outraqeous numbers, please....do your home work.
exactly my point dude, it's funny how many monster benchers there are around who used to bench 700 "back in the day" before i injured my shoulder, had kids, got married, cut myself shaving, lost an arm in a work accident, hahahaha, there must have been something in the water "back in the day" because there were so many strong dudes back then.
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Anyone who benches 600+ for reps is a serious elite powerlifter. I don't care how gifted you are in strength, this is a tremendous achievement. Nobody who "just lifts" achieves this. To be all humble about it and not wanting any formal recognition is just contradictory. If that is indeed your stance about it, why even mention it in the first place? Why then, do some guys who won't prove these feats of strength, feel the need to make a web site about it?
If looks like bullshit, and walks like bullshit...
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So he doesn't want to prove he can lift 900 pounds in an official competition because people would accuse him of taking steroids? That is the most asinine excuse I've heard in my life. Nesser is a fucking con artist, ask any powerlifter on here and they'll tell you the same thing.
Here's an interview with this assclown.
http://www.criticalbench.com/Isaac-Nesser.htm
I can certainly understand that you are skeptical. It is wise to be skeptical! But given his tremendous size and many years of lifting, I don't think his claims are that outrageous. I have met many people who have acquaintances or family members in other states who possess unbelievable size and strength. He is probably just one of those people.
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Anyone who benches 600+ for reps is a serious elite powerlifter. I don't care how gifted you are in strength, this is a tremendous achievement. Nobody who "just lifts" achieves this. To be all humble about it and not wanting any formal recognition is just contradictory. If that is indeed your stance about it, why even mention it in the first place? Why then, do some guys who won't prove these feats of strength, feel the need to make a web site about it?
If looks like bullshit, and walks like bullshit...
Many people don't want huge amounts of attention and that is why they just do these monster lifts in the gym and keep to themselves. They often don't compete because they are far stronger than most natural athletes and would be accused of using steroids. And if they competed in nontested competitions they would probably be accused of using drugs.
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Don't be so cynical about what is possible. Isaac Nesser was known to bench press 800 pounds for reps, but only in his basement. He was also natural and was featured in the Guiness Book of World Records. Open your mind to new possiblities.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Isaac Nesser HAHAHAHAHAHAHA he is even more full of shit that Jimmy "the iron bullshitter" Pellechia HAHAHAHAAHAHA
http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/interviews.html (http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/interviews.html)
http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/gallery2.html (http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/gallery2.html)
(http://angelfire.com/oh5/diamond3/images/Isaac3scott.jpg)
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Isaac Nesser HAHAHAHAHAHAHA he is even more full of shit that Jimmy "the iron bullshitter" Pellechia HAHAHAHAAHAHA
http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/interviews.html (http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/interviews.html)
http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/gallery2.html (http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/diamond2/gallery2.html)
(http://angelfire.com/oh5/diamond3/images/Isaac3scott.jpg)
Why should it be surprising that a man of his size and lifting experience is capable of such feats of strength?
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Many people don't want huge amounts of attention and that is why they just do these monster lifts in the gym and keep to themselves. They often don't compete because they are far stronger than most natural athletes and would be accused of using steroids. And if they competed in nontested competitions they would probably be accused of using drugs.
Yeah right. You've proved my point.
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Yeah right. You've proved my point.
What do you mean? ???
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I can certainly understand that you are skeptical. It is wise to be skeptical! But given his tremendous size and many years of lifting, I don't think his claims are that outrageous. I have met many people who have acquaintances or family members in other states who possess unbelievable size and strength. He is probably just one of those people.
As usual, I find that LuciusFox is right on the money. How many times have we as extremely hypertrophied advanced bodybuilders had countless people come up to us and tell us that their friend's wife's cousin's uncle is twice our size, eats 30kcals per day, and benches 900 raw (drug free, of course)? Issac is likely just one of these people.
And being the obviously honorable man that he is, he likely refuses to compete in bodybuilding, powerlifting, or strongman competition because he feels it would be unfair to the others. Could you imagine the catastrophic effect it would have on these sports if everyone else got discouraged and stopped competing due to the domination of guys like Issac and a few others who possess inhuman size, strength, and athleticism but don't compete?
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I can certainly understand that you are skeptical. It is wise to be skeptical! But given his tremendous size and many years of lifting, I don't think his claims are that outrageous. I have met many people who have acquaintances or family members in other states who possess unbelievable size and strength. He is probably just one of those people.
First of all, size and experience do not necessarily mean your strong. Second of all, this clown claims to be able to rep almost 100 pounds more than the heaviest raw bench on record. Then he refuses to back it up, even though he's had plenty of opportunities to do so. Isaac Nesser is a FRAUD, plain and simple.
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Why should it be surprising that a man of his size and lifting experience is capable of such feats of strength?
Maybe because the strongest bench press specialists on the planet can't even do them. "I will match anyone in a basketball shooting competition" what a fucking deuchebag
Plus he's not even that big, look at his picture, 29 inch arms my ass: http://www.drsize74.com/gallery5A.html
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As usual, I find that LuciusFox is right on the money. How many times have we as extremely hypertrophied advanced bodybuilders had countless people come up to us and tell us that their friend's wife's cousin's uncle is twice our size, eats 30kcals per day, and benches 900 raw (drug free, of course)? Issac is likely just one of these people.
And being the obviously honorable man that he is, he likely refuses to compete in bodybuilding, powerlifting, or strongman competition because he feels it would be unfair to the others. Could you imagine the catastrophic effect it would have on these sports if everyone else got discouraged and stopped competing due to the domination of guys like Issac and a few others who possess inhuman size, strength, and athleticism but don't compete?
I have never seen a more informed or better argued post. Genetics freaks like Nesser stay on the sideline because of the mercy and kindness of their hearts. Who would even bother going to a powerlifting contest when they know that Isaac will enter the room, quickly perform the three lifts with world record weight, and just as quickly exit? It would cause the powerlifting industry to crash.
What would parents say? What happens when little Billy asks, "Mommy, can I do anything when I grow up?" She will have to answer, "No, son. There are freaks like Isaac Nesser that you cannot surpass in size and strength. You should just give up." Millions of children would be heartbroken.
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First of all, size and experience do not necessarily mean your strong. Second of all, this clown claims to be able to rep almost 100 pounds more than the heaviest raw bench on record. Then he refuses to back it up, even though he's had plenty of opportunities to do so. Isaac Nesser is a FRAUD, plain and simple.
He would show the world but he does not want to be accused of using steroids. Hs measurements are legitimate. You probably haven't seen him in the Guiness book because his records were subsequently broken.
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He would show the world but he does not want to be accused of using steroids. Hs measurements are legitimate. You probably haven't seen him in the Guiness book because his records were subsequently broken.
No I haven't seen him there because he isn't there and never was. I checked with Guiness today, they don't keep a "most muscular arm" record, they do have a largest chest record and it is held by Robert Earl Hughes born in 1926. His chest measured 10 feet 4 inches. That's 124 inches, 50 inches or 4 ft 2 inches bigger than Nasser's "supposed" record.
Like I said, Nasser is a bullshit artist and you should feel like a complete dumbass for believing some jackass on the internet that claims shit without providing a shred of proof.
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No I haven't seen him there because he isn't there and never was. I checked with Guiness today, they don't keep a "most muscular arm" record, they do have a largest chest record and it is held by Robert Earl Hughes born in 1926. His chest measured 10 feet 4 inches. That's 124 inches, 50 inches or 4 ft 2 inches bigger than Nasser's "supposed" record.
Like I said, Nasser is a bullshit artist and you should feel like a complete dumbass for believing some jackass on the internet that claims shit without providing a shred of proof.
But Arnold was also in the Guiness book for world's most muscular arm, way back when. They measured it at 22 inches. And the largest chest record belonged to an enormously obese fellow. It was not a muscular chest
If what you are saying is true then it sounds like Nesser measured himself, realized that he had the largest muscular arms and chest in the world, attempted to have the Guiness book recognize these facts, and was then informed that they kept no such records. It is a shame that someone who bench presses in excess of 800 pounds for reps and had the world's largest muscular arms and chest should have to lie about anything.
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Hughs weighed 1000+ lbs. That is the only reason his measurements were so large.
This Lucius Fox character...........and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this guy is obviously mentally ill. Look at the attention he is getting. ...........and some naive people actually believe him. That is all he is looking for. I am willing to put up $25,000 of my own money if this guy can come out and bench press just 750 RAW....in an official/sanctioned meet. The kicker is..........he only has to pay me $10,000 if he doesn't do it. Why not ????? I think it's a great bet. Put your money where your mouth is Lucius. His statements completely insult anyone who has ever competed in powerlifting, especially the true record holders.
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Hughs weighed 1000+ lbs. That is the only reason his measurements were so large.
This Lucius Fox character...........and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this guy is obviously mentally ill. Look at the attention he is getting. ...........and some naive people actually believe him. That is all he is looking for. I am willing to put up $25,000 of my own money if this guy can come out and bench press just 750 RAW....in an official/sanctioned meet. The kicker is..........he only has to pay me $10,000 if he doesn't do it. Why not ????? I think it's a great bet. Put your money where your mouth is Lucius. His statements completely insult anyone who has ever competed in powerlifting, especially the true record holders.
Powerlifters should not feel bad. They work just as hard, if not harder, than Nesser does. He performs these feats not because he is the hardest worker, but because he has insane, grizzly bear-like genetics. He will not take the bet because you will just accuse him of using steroids after he reps the 750 easily. He doesn't need his wife asking him if he is using drugs. He doesn't need his employer looking into it either and I don't think he wants his kids to hear someone calling Daddy a cheater. You think I want attention? Look at my posts per day. I rarely post on this site because I won't write unless I have something important to say. I understand why you are skeptical though. Message boards often have members who are always joking around.
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But Arnold was also in the Guiness book for world's most muscular arm, way back when. They measured it at 22 inches. And the largest chest record belonged to an enormously obese fellow. It was not a muscular chest
If what you are saying is true then it sounds like Nesser measured himself, realized that he had the largest muscular arms and chest in the world, attempted to have the Guiness book recognize these facts, and was then informed that they kept no such records. It is a shame that someone who bench presses in excess of 800 pounds for reps and had the world's largest muscular arms and chest should have to lie about anything.
No, what I'm saying is there ISN'T a most muscular arm entry in the Guinness Book of Records, think about it have you ever personally seen such a thing? Look I understand you have some kind of weird disorder that makes you believe stupid bullshit, but have you seen a pic of nesser measuring his arm or chest? Have you seen him doing any lifting at all? No, you haven't and neither has anybody else, and this argument that he won't do it because people might accuse him of doing steroids is a LAME excuse, it doesn't even make sense. He could easily compete at a DRUG TESTED meet.
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I think I have additional insights as to why Isaac doesn't compete. For one thing, when you look at his pictures it's quite obvious that he is actually a rather shy, humble person. He seems to be reluctant to even pose at all, and tends to keep himself pretty well covered up. He seems to be almost hiding in all those dark photos.
As further testament to his humility, Isaac has not even discussed his educational accomplishments at all, and has only briefly mentioned his significant accomplishments in the business world.
It doesn't take an Einstein to deduce that this man is very well educated; after all he is called "Dr. Size". As we all know, to be called "Dr.", one must have completed several years of advanced education beyond the undergraduate college level; this could be in the form of a PhD, MD, DC, JD, or any combination thereof.
But Isaac - being an unpretentious, practical, humble man - remains true to his roots. Rather than get wrapped up in all the red tape and baggage that the bureaucratic, highly political worlds of academia, medicine, and law offer, he chose to become a true entrepreneur in control of his own destiny.
Rather than engage himself in futile attempts to cure cancer, file class action lawsuits against big corporations, realign spinal cords, or attempt to educate snot nosed, unappreciative students, Isaac chose to make a real difference in the world around him. He has dedicated his life to providing stylish, reasonably priced clothing to the tall and fat people of this world.
Seeing that Isaac is such a practical, humble humanitarian of infinite wisdom, we can clearly see why he has chosen not to compete. His gorilla-like genes would not make competition fair at all. And if he ever decided to step over to the darkside and realize the 5-10% advantage, we'd be seeing a raw bench press of as much as 907.5 pounds, arms as large as 31.9", and a muscular bodyweight as heavy as 401.5 pounds - almost as big as the late Trevor Smith!... :o
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No, what I'm saying is there ISN'T a most muscular arm entry in the Guinness Book of Records, think about it have you ever personally seen such a thing? Look I understand you have some kind of weird disorder that makes you believe stupid bullshit, but have you seen a pic of nesser measuring his arm or chest? Have you seen him doing any lifting at all? No, you haven't and neither has anybody else, and this argument that he won't do it because people might accuse him of doing steroids is a LAME excuse, it doesn't even make sense. He could easily compete at a DRUG TESTED meet.
I looked on the website and you are right, they did not have a largest muscular arm entry. They either never had it, and the scenario I mentioned in the second paragraph of my previous response occured, or they just removed it. I really think that I have seen it before though. Even if Isaac competed in a drug-tested event, absolutely noone would believe he was drug-free when he bench pressed more than the world's strongest non-tested lifters. You and I both know this. Getbig would be permeated with cries of "steroids" and "juicer".
You are right about him measuring himself, too. He probably has not done it because people would just accuse him of using a pre-shrunk tape measure anyway, so why bother?
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I looked on the website and you are right, they did not have a largest muscular arm entry. They either never had it, and the scenario I mentioned in the second paragraph of my previous response occured, or they just removed it. I really think that I have seen it before though. Even if Isaac competed in a drug-tested event, absolutely noone would believe he was drug-free when he bench pressed more than the world's strongest non-tested lifters. You and I both know this. Getbig would be permeated with cries of "steroids" and "juicer".
You are right about him measuring himself, too. He probably has not done it because people would just accuse him of using a pre-shrunk tape measure anyway, so why bother?
Nice fake account. Who is it, BackDoorBruised?
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I think I have additional insights as to why Isaac doesn't compete. For one thing, when you look at his pictures it's quite obvious that he is actually a rather shy, humble person. He seems to be reluctant to even pose at all, and tends to keep himself pretty well covered up. He seems to be almost hiding in all those dark photos.
As further testament to his humility, Isaac has not even discussed his educational accomplishments at all, and has only briefly mentioned his significant accomplishments in the business world.
It doesn't take an Einstein to deduce that this man is very well educated; after all he is called "Dr. Size". As we all know, to be called "Dr.", one must have completed several years of advanced education beyond the undergraduate college level; this could be in the form of a PhD, MD, DC, JD, or any combination thereof.
But Isaac - being an unpretentious, practical, humble man - remains true to his roots. Rather than get wrapped up in all the red tape and baggage that the bureaucratic, highly political worlds of academia, medicine, and law offer, he chose to become a true entrepreneur in control of his own destiny.
Rather than engage himself in futile attempts to cure cancer, file class action lawsuits against big corporations, realign spinal cords, or attempt to educate snot nosed, unappreciative students, Isaac chose to make a real difference in the world around him. He has dedicated his life to providing stylish, reasonably priced clothing to the tall and fat people of this world.
Seeing that Isaac is such a practical, humble humanitarian of infinite wisdom, we can clearly see why he has chosen not to compete. His gorilla-like genes would not make competition fair at all. And if he ever decided to step over to the darkside and realize the 5-10% advantage, we'd be seeing a raw bench press of as much as 907.5 pounds, arms as large as 31.9", and a muscular bodyweight as heavy as 401.5 pounds - almost as big as the late Trevor Smith!... :o
You have great points. As America's waistline grows, more clothes are needed for large men. Isaac knows this, and like the Good Lord, he provides. The fact that he has earned his Doctorate is very impressive as well, few in the Iron Game have such credentials. I only wish he would prove these claims and shut these haters up, but he has his reasons for staying in the shadows.
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Nice fake account. Who is it, BackDoorBruised?
It sounds like you a projecting your own worries onto me. I suspect it is you who have a fake account!
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He won't take the bet because I may accuse him of taking steroids?
I don't care what he takes....or doesn't take. I'm just asking him to lift 75% of the weight he claims to lift....that's it. I'm willing to pay him....lol.
I believe the only drug he may take is LSD.
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He won't take the bet because I may accuse him of taking steroids?
I don't care what he takes....or doesn't take. I'm just asking him to lift 75% of the weight he claims to lift....that's it. I'm willing to pay him....lol.
I believe the only drug he may take is LSD.
He doesn't want to take your money. For all he knows, you are a family man who really needs that money.
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Greg Kovacs is the strongest mo fo on the planet.
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Hughs weighed 1000+ lbs. That is the only reason his measurements were so large.
This Lucius Fox character...........and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this guy is obviously mentally ill. Look at the attention he is getting. ...........and some naive people actually believe him. That is all he is looking for. I am willing to put up $25,000 of my own money if this guy can come out and bench press just 750 RAW....in an official/sanctioned meet. The kicker is..........he only has to pay me $10,000 if he doesn't do it. Why not ????? I think it's a great bet. Put your money where your mouth is Lucius. His statements completely insult anyone who has ever competed in powerlifting, especially the true record holders.
i'd go one better, i would give him the money if he did it and he wouldn't owe me a thing if he didn't, that's how sure i am that he couldn't do it, let me load seven 45's and a quarter on each side which isn't even 750 but it will do.
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um because bodybuilding is a deceptive sport?
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i'd go one better, i would give him the money if he did it and he wouldn't owe me a thing if he didn't, that's how sure i am that he couldn't do it, let me load seven 45's and a quarter on each side which isn't even 750 but it will do.
You would probably be afraid to be in the same room as him. He's claimed to have killed full-grown elephants with his bare hands. You guys really underestimate him.
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You would probably be afraid to be in the same room as him. He's claimed to have killed full-grown elephants with his bare hands. You guys really underestimate him.
i'm terrified. ::)
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i'm terrified. ::)
The wise are afraid in the face of death. The foolish are confident and display bravado.