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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Never1AShow on June 12, 2016, 07:46:29 AM
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Just woke up to this. 50 dead plus 53 injured. Reports of suicide vest and gay nightclub. It's over. President Trump.
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No need for the senseless deaths. Too bad.
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I heard the shooter may have been Amish. ::)
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op seems pleased this event has occurred in that it furthers a certain political agenda...hmmmm
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But...but...it's RACISSS to suggest we limit the amount of refugees from Islamic countries to immigrate here.
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op seems pleased this event has occurred in that it furthers a certain political agenda...hmmmm
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If the political agenda includes waking up to the huge problem called "Islam" then count me in.
I want to see Hilary acknowledge that Islam is a toxic disaster for humanity and she will get my vote. Otherwise...
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If the political agenda includes waking up to the huge problem called "Islam" then count me in.
I want to see Hilary acknowledge that Islam is a toxic disaster for humanity and she will get my vote. Otherwise...
Her Saudi backers wouldn't like that
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op seems pleased this event has occurred in that it furthers a certain political agenda...hmmmm
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I would be pleased to have policies in place that will end or prevent 1000 more of these from happening. I was also pleased that we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima because it prevent 10 times as many innocent deaths.
Not pleased at all at anyone's suffering, terrible for the victims, but that is so obvious it goes without saying (except to sociopaths and hacks like you).
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If the political agenda includes waking up to the huge problem called "Islam" then count me in.
I want to see Hilary acknowledge that Islam is a toxic disaster for humanity and she will get my vote. Otherwise...
so you're happy when terrorism occurs
excellent
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I would be pleased to have policies in place that will end or prevent 1000 more of these from happening. I was also pleased that we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima because it prevent 10 times as many innocent deaths.
Not pleased at all at anyone's suffering, terrible for the victims, but that is so obvious it goes without saying (except to sociopaths and hacks like you).
try waiting until the bodies are cold before breaking out the champagne next time
hope this helps
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Not Lincoln shot. Other thread doesn't mention TERROR in title
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so you're happy when terrorism occurs
excellent
Are you really this ignorant? If so, continue then. If not, knock it off. How ridiculous.
try waiting until the bodies are cold before breaking out the champagne next time
hope this helps
Well now, I guess you are an idiot. Please leave.
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so you're happy when terrorism occurs
excellent
An asshole never needs an introduction, they are always happy to introduce themselves.
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Are you really this ignorant? If so, continue then. If not, knock it off. How ridiculous.
Well now, I guess you are an idiot. Please leave.
sorry to be such a party pooper
carry on with the celebrations
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I would be pleased to have policies in place that will end or prevent 1000 more of these from happening. I was also pleased that we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima because it prevent 10 times as many innocent deaths.
Not pleased at all at anyone's suffering, terrible for the victims, but that is so obvious it goes without saying (except to sociopaths and hacks like you).
So taking all the guns?
That would end this right?
Is mass shooting an epidemic in the US?
No.
Sucks, but it's a drop in the bucket really.
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So Islams are killing gay people now?
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So Islams are killing gay people now?
Pretty sure they have been doing that for awhile.
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Pretty sure they have been doing that for awhile.
damn, who don't they hate?
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So taking all the guns?
That would end this right?
YES
Is mass shooting an epidemic in the US?
No. YES
Sucks, but it's a drop in the bucket really.
denial is a wonderful thing!
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because taking away people's guns work so will in the UK right? ::) ::)
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At a news conference, Chief John Mina of the Orlando Police Department said the weapons recovered from the dead suspect included a handgun and an “AR-15-type assault rifle,” along with additional rounds.
http://www.nytimes.com/live/orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-updates/assault-rifle-is-among-weapons
p.s. I will be donning my *gun expert* hat henceforth with regard to this topic. no pms thanks.
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Ban immigration. BDB for president.
x2
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So Islams are killing gay people now?
They've always done that.
Isis been chucking them off roofs for a while now.
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They've always done that.
Isis been chucking them off roofs for a while now.
I knew that did in their countries but I didn't know that was a thing in the west though. That is really fucked, they hate and kill everyone.
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They've always done that.
Isis been chucking them off roofs for a while now.
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sorry to be such a party pooper
carry on with the celebrations
What a maroon.
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What a maroon.
when people are murdered it's not an opportunity to dance on their dead bodies in furtherance of some demented political agenda.
happy to elaborate on this further if required.
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the weird thing is that in Afghanistan homosexual paedophilia is routine.
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Yes, Muslims are some of the fruitiest people on earth. Crazy world.
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I knew that did in their countries but I didn't know that was a thing in the west though. That is really fucked, they hate and kill everyone.
Thus, the Religion of Peace-moniker.
Where the "of peace" came from originally to Getbig.
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his father is a nut too. :-\
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-is-a-former-tv-show-ho-1781849968
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They just stated that he abused steroids....we know where that's going.... :-\
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denial is a wonderful thing!
So if we take all the guns Muslims can't behead people in the street like they do? Right? Religion of peace.
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when people are murdered it's not an opportunity to dance on their dead bodies in furtherance of some demented political agenda.
happy to elaborate on this further if required.
I'm not dancing on anything. Your attitude however, disgusts me both as an American and a human being.
Given your words in this thread, you must not be either.
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They've always done that.
Isis been chucking them off roofs for a while now.
Ban 2 story and higher buildings
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his father is a nut too. :-\
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-is-a-former-tv-show-ho-1781849968
Lmao..yeah, I'd say the dad is a little off.
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when people are murdered it's not an opportunity to dance on their dead bodies in furtherance of some demented political agenda.
happy to elaborate on this further if required.
When 1 of the worst terror attacks in American history is committed, people are likely to talk about it. It's not our fault that it doesn't support your perverted false narrative. This is a forum....where discussion often involve current events.
Every time you link your bullshit statistics on terror attacks, you are supporting a political narrative. You are part of a barbaric religion that often commits violent crimes. If 1 of those crimes shows up in the news, we don't care if it once again shows islam in its common bad light.
Denial from gutless people like you is exactly why islam is in the horrendous place it is, in the 1st place. If the Good Muslims took a more proactive approach against the bad 1s rather than deny the Problem, we might not need to have these discussions so often
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- the suspect was a native born American
- the ex wife says he was crazy, abusive and not religious
- the co-worker (at a soldier for hire firm) says he was crazy
- the FBI had him on their radar, had interviewed him multiple times, didn't see him as a threat
Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, San Bernardino, and Orlando all have two things in common: mentally unstable shooters and assault rifles.
We can't always stop crazy people, but we should be able to prevent them from gaining access to weapons that can kill dozens in seconds.
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- the suspect was a native born American
- the ex wife says he was crazy, abusive and not religious
- the co-worker (at a soldier for hire firm) says he was crazy
- the FBI had him on their radar, had interviewed him multiple times, didn't see him as a threat
Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, San Bernardino, and Orlando all have two things in common: mentally unstable shooters and assault rifles.
We can't always stop crazy people, but we should be able to prevent them from gaining access to weapons that can kill dozens in seconds.
How do you propose that without infringing on other people's rights? And " assault rifles " are a red herring , seeing the vast majority of people killed with firearms are done with pistols. In fact according to the FBI more people die each year from " hands & feet " than ALL rifles , AR15s included
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- the suspect was a native born American
- the ex wife says he was crazy, abusive and not religious
- the co-worker (at a soldier for hire firm) says he was crazy
- the FBI had him on their radar, had interviewed him multiple times, didn't see him as a threat
Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, San Bernardino, and Orlando all have two things in common: mentally unstable shooters and assault rifles.
We can't always stop crazy people, but we should be able to prevent them from gaining access to weapons that can kill dozens in seconds.
He is absolutely muslim, and he has already been linked to isis. Where do you get your facts?
The fbi is not allowed to infringe on his delicate religious freedoms due to liberal agendas. That is why they found nothing. That is completely different than nothing being there
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Talk about close to home. That club is on the same street as the gym where I train, which is about 20 minutes from my house.
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How do you propose that without infringing on other people's rights?
Simple answer: Fuck your right to own a device who's only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.
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Simple answer: Fuck your right to own a device who's only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.
That's not quite how it works.
These ISIS goofs don't care what they use to kill people. We ain't banning pressure cookers, because of the Tsarnaev brothers.
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Simple answer: Fuck your right to own a device who's only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.
Yeah, doesn't work that way.
We should probably ban those evil, nasty "assault" rifles right? Only pistols, shotguns and hunting rifles.
Right?
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He is absolutely muslim, and he has already been linked to isis. Where do you get your facts?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/omar-mateenorlando-nightclub-terrorists-ex-wife-says-he-beat-her-and-was-unstable-a7078231.html
"He seemed like a normal human being," she said, adding that he wasn't very religious and worked out at the gym out often. She said in the few months they were married he gave no signs of having fallen under the sway of radical Islam. She said he owned a small-caliber handgun and worked as a guard at a nearby facility for juvenile delinquents.
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I cannot engage in the political rhetoric here. This is a fucking tragedy, folks. My energy and thoughts are with all the innocent people who died or were injured and those who love them and are now deeply suffering the loss of them. That this happened is beyond belief. I am greatly saddened and discouraged right now.
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Simple answer: Fuck your right to own a device who's only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.
And you seem intelligent on other topics :-\ Again more people kill other people with hands and feet than ALL rifles each year , you're not interested in solutions you're interested in emotional pleas that don't accomplish anything in reality.
And these rifles are already the most popular type of rifle in the United States with millions in private hands and these types of events are exceedingly rare. Mind you MILLIONS of these AR15s are in private hands and never used to harm or maim anyone but hey they look scary lets ban them all. This accomplishes NOTHING do you have something to offer other than emotional pleas?
All mine , NEVER shot anything other than paper should I be forced to give up my rifles because some radical Muslim attacked people? That makes sense to you? ???
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Ban hands & feet
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^ Great post, ND. And highly recommended for anyone living in the rural areas to have, without question. Just like all other basic equipment.
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It really is a sobbing, silly, emotional argument trying to stand against pure logic. No dice.
Just mind your own shit and quit trying to cause others to be guilty by some warped perception of association.
Turn off your TV, too. That will help.
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And you seem intelligent on other topics :-\ Again more people kill other people with hands and feet than ALL rifles each year , you're not interested in solutions you're interested in emotional pleas that don't accomplish anything in reality.
And these rifles are already the most popular type of rifle in the United States with millions in private hands and these types of events are exceedingly rare. Mind you MILLIONS of these AR15s are in private hands and never used to harm or maim anyone but hey they look scary lets ban them all. This accomplishes NOTHING do you have something to offer other than emotional pleas?
All mine , NEVER shot anything other than paper should I be forced to give up my rifles because some radical Muslim attacked people? That makes sense to you? ???
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map
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BTW, I agree Tim is a good guy. And he's given some brutal truths on this forum like few others have.
But he's way off on this one.
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Tim, would you like to see ND be forced to surrender his guns?
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Tim, would you like to see ND be forced to surrender his guns?
I want something like the Assault Weapon Ban of 2013 to be passed and signed into law.
As a compromise, I'd settle for no new assault weapons sold.
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Simple answer: Fuck your right to own a device who's only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.
Fuck your right to suck your shit off another mans dick.
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Fuck your right to suck your shit off another mans dick.
Yeah, like sucking cock is equivalent to killing large numbers of people.
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Yeah, like sucking cock is equivalent to killing large numbers of people.
Yes, Aids is rampant in your community. Ban gays/stop Aids.
Think of the government savings in medical costs!!
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I want something like the Assault Weapon Ban of 2013 to be passed and signed into law.
As a compromise, I'd settle for no new assault weapons sold.
Meaning that no way you'd want to say that to ND, because you know it wouldn't be right.
I don't blame you for that, and it is exactly what I expected you to say.
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LOl Quoting " Mother Jones " ::)
Mass shootings are a red herring , they are exceedingly rare. The vast majority of gun violence if perpetrated with handguns , You're not interested in preventing gun violence , you're interested in banning a sub-set of firearms based on looks alone. You're not interested in solutions.
Again should I be forced at gun point to turn in my guns because some lunatic killed a bunch of people? If you say yes , you're not interested in preventing gun violence because all that does if create more gun violence.
Being a gay man you of all people should know banning anything doesn't work , let's ban homosexuality and then people won't be gay anymore. All you accomplish if you ban AR15s is change the tool the mass-killer uses , happy now? You have 50 people killed via IED , Suicide vest , etc
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let me repeat
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Australia and many other countries have banned assault weapons, and don't have these kinds of mass shootings. We can too.
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I want something like the Assault Weapon Ban of 2013 to be passed and signed into law.
As a compromise, I'd settle for no new assault weapons sold.
One it's Unconstitutional , Two Connecticut still has and had at the time of Sandy Hook a " Assault Weapons Ban " in effect , at the time of Virginia tech the original AWB was in effect
You don't have the faintest idea what the Assault Weapons Ban is , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are in an " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Can you spot the difference? ;)
More people are killed with hands and fists than ALL rifles , including AR15s which are a subset of rifles , you ban these and there will be NO change whatsoever in gun violence.
You're not very well thought out on this subject , you're in good company with the rest of the United States. You think you know what you're talking about but you really don't .
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let me repeat
Australia and many other countries have banned assault weapons, and don't have these kinds of mass shootings. We can too.
Maybe you missed this Tim? ;)
More people killed with hands & feet than ALL AR15s and rifles COMBINED , you're not interested in preventing gun violence , you're only interested in banning scary looking rifles.
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who cares about how many people are killed by hands, feet, and hand guns. We are talking about mass shootings. A crazy person is not going to be able to kill dozens with his hands, feet, knifes or even hand guns. Other countries have done things to prevent mass shootings, and they've been successful. We can do something too.
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who cares about how many people are killed by hands, feet, and hand guns. We are talking about mass shootings. A crazy person is not going to be able to kill dozens with his hands, feet, knifes or even hand guns. Other countries have done things to prevent mass shootings, and they've been successful. We can do something too.
No one and nothing is stopping you from leaving these United States. And don't tread on me on your way out.
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who cares about how many people are killed by hands, feet, and hand guns. We are talking about mass shootings. A crazy person is not going to be able to kill dozens with his hands, feet, knifes or even hand guns. Other countries have done things to prevent mass shootings, and they've been successful. We can do something too.
Answer the question Tim , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are in what is considered an " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Tell me which ones are
These weapons were banned for 10 years and NOTHING changed , the original AWB had NO effect on crime. Keep harping on " Mass Shootings " which are exceedingly rare and constitute next to nothing for the total of gun violence.
You're in way over your head on this one Tim. Ban these types of rifles A) doesn't make a dent in reality and B) creates more gun violence because I sure as fuck aren;t giving mine up because some crackpots decide to kill a bunch of people , so either way your solution is a nonsolution.
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Like most on the left, Tim wants his rights enforced and by association respected, and yours taken away.
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Like most on the left, Tim wants his rights enforced and by association respected, and yours taken away.
Tim likes gun violence as long as the Government is doing the dirty work.
Hey I've been a good citizen all my life , never arrested ( Fuck you Groink ) pay my taxes , treat other people with respect , etc , etc , Hey this total wackjob just killed a bunch of people , guess what? We're taking YOUR guns because he's crazy and I'm not saying you're crazy too , but I am lol Fantastic logic ::)
In that picture is about $7500 in firearms , you think I'm giving them up because some lunatic went off? or some Politician decided arbitrary I may be a future threat? ::)
Fuck That Noise
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Yeah, like sucking cock is equivalent to killing large numbers of people.
It's worse.
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Tim likes gun violence as long as the Government is doing the dirty work.
I've been vocally anti-war from the beginning. I've been vocally against the militarization of the police.
People on the right like to say that we should ban all muslim immigration (and sometimes all immigration) until we can figure out how to prevent the bad guys from getting in.
Well, perhaps we should ban the sale of all guns until we can figure out how to prevent the crazy ones from gaining access to them.
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Simple answer: Fuck your right to own a device who's only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.
By your reasoning any gay with AIDS should have his penis removed and his anus and mouth sewn shut. How's that tickle your fancy?
No less ridiculous that your words quoted above. Leave this country now, please. And again, don't tread on me on your way out.
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so you're happy when terrorism occurs
excellent
You're such a fool.
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damn, who don't they hate?
They don't hate other fundamentalist Muslims. As long as they're the "right" type of to-the-letter Muslims.
Listen, the Allahpukes can't get along with each other. Witness the endless calamity called The Middle East.
And they're gonna find peace among those their holy book commands them to slaughter?!
Islam is enemy. Plain and simple.
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Killing phags is "terrorism" yet the mass murder of soldiers on an army base by a muzzie lunatic is "workplace violence" according to the muzzie ape in the White House.
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who cares about how many people are killed by hands, feet, and hand guns. We are talking about mass shootings. A crazy person is not going to be able to kill dozens with his hands, feet, knifes or even hand guns. Other countries have done things to prevent mass shootings, and they've been successful. We can do something too.
The shootings in Orlando were tragic. My Condolences to the dead and my sympathy to those who were injured.
But 50 dead and 53 wounded is not even a month's worth of shootings in Chicago.
Yes, one is radical Islam and a retarded religious ideology, the other is Nigs with zero respect for human life.
I like Having a gun to protect myself from the everyday threat, not the one or twice a year crazy person who goes off on these mass shootings. These mass killings are less risk to me probability wise than getting hit by lightning. But liberals want to disarm me against the everyday risk of violent crime because they are stupid enough to believe that humanity is filled with good, honest, moral people who will do no wrong if you just give them more social benefits
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The shootings in Orlando were tragic. My Condolences to the dead and my sympathy to those who were injured.
But 50 dead and 53 wounded is not even a month's worth of shootings in Chicago.
Yes, one is radical Islam and a retarded religious ideology, the other is Nigs with zero respect for human life.
I like Having a gun to protect myself from the everyday threat, not the one or twice a year crazy person who goes off on these mass shootings. These mass killings are less risk to me probability wise than getting hit by lightning. But liberals want to disarm me against the everyday risk of violent crime because they are stupid enough to believe that humanity is filled with good, honest, moral people who will do no wrong if you just give them more social benefits
It's their way of encouraging wealth redistribution.
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Something you must remember, is that a potentially violent act prevented by the presence of a gun, isn't going to generate much of a story, is it? That's because the gun has done its job, and no one can say what terrible things might have become, otherwise.
Nevermind that the media (certainly national media and its affiliates) wouldn't be inclined to publish/broadcast it in the first place, the fact is that the situation wasn't allowed to get out of control -- just as it should be when things work correctly -- and the absence of newsworthiness is in fact a sign of great success.
And none of this mentions a word about the peace afforded to good people everywhere, every single day, who know they are equipped to protect their loved ones from harm. That is priceless to them, rest assured.
Those are the facts about guns.
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who cares about how many people are killed by hands, feet, and hand guns. We are talking about mass shootings. A crazy person is not going to be able to kill dozens with his hands, feet, knifes or even hand guns. Other countries have done things to prevent mass shootings, and they've been successful. We can do something too.
An islamist kills a bunch of innocent people with a gun ----- solution = ban guns
A mentally disturbed individual kills people with a gun ------solution = ban guns
a disgruntled employee kills co workers with a gun ------ solution = ban guns
stupid, just plain stupid and lazy.
How about trying to treat the problem at the root and figure what caused these people to pick up arms in the first place . Oh no that would take actual thought and effort and it is not quite so easy. But banning guns, never mind that it is completely useless as a deterrent.. look how successful the war on drugs has been?
You think there would be 50 dead helpless innocents if every other person in that bar had a gun?
Problem with progressives/regressives is that they are authoritarian by nature and they always look to government/authority to enforce their authoritarian ideals, with coercion and/or violence. Sickening.
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I want something like the Assault Weapon Ban of 2013 to be passed and signed into law.
As a compromise, I'd settle for no new assault weapons sold.
You don't know that Islam in its fundamental teachings commands homosexuals to be slaughtered?
I'll say it again. For a homosexual to defend Islam in ANY way is pure insanity.
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It's their way of encouraging wealth redistribution.
Have you ever seen taxes in Illinois?
Property taxes here are fucking insane and Rahm Emaneul is as clueless as his butt buddy obama
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I'm a Canadian and I don't own a firearm. Never have. However, I will stand shoulder to shoulder with decent, respectful and responsible American gun owners in their absolute right to possess guns and whatnot.
And if you're a criminal or general scumbag and one of these decent folks fills you with holes when you infringe on their right to peace and safety, I'll applaud such a happening each and every time.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/omar-mateenorlando-nightclub-terrorists-ex-wife-says-he-beat-her-and-was-unstable-a7078231.html
"He seemed like a normal human being," she said, adding that he wasn't very religious and worked out at the gym out often. She said in the few months they were married he gave no signs of having fallen under the sway of radical Islam. She said he owned a small-caliber handgun and worked as a guard at a nearby facility for juvenile delinquents.
I think you need to stop.cherry picking your source material to suit your argument and actually pay attention to the totality of the facts. When you behave in such a manner you lose.what little credibility you think you have. He pledge his allegiance to isis. Stop being a jackals and looking for the most miniscule quote to say otherwise.
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To those telling me people can't kill dozens of human beings without a gun, you're very wrong. The Boston bombing, they used pressure cookers. It's radical Islam, plain and simple. Also it seems like it's a common place that gun free zones are attacked...hmm I wonder why. Gun control doesn't work, it never has, it's all about who is behind the guns. Taking away civilians rights to protect themselves isn't just stupid, it puts us all in danger without the means to protect ourselves. I'd rather have dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.
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If I'm being threatened by some nut/criminal and he's got a gun, damn straight I hope the dude beside me also has one.
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- the suspect was a native born American
- the ex wife says he was crazy, abusive and not religious
- the co-worker (at a soldier for hire firm) says he was crazy
- the FBI had him on their radar, had interviewed him multiple times, didn't see him as a threat
Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, San Bernardino, and Orlando all have two things in common: mentally unstable shooters and assault rifles.
We can't always stop crazy people, but we should be able to prevent them from gaining access to weapons that can kill dozens in seconds.
Typical left wing libtard response to blame the type of gun. Please explain to all of us what exactly an "assault rifle" is. I swear you'd be so much happier if the guy had just thrown a grenade and killed 100 people.
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Typical left wing libtard response to blame the type of gun. Please explain to all of us what exactly an "assault rifle" is. I swear you'd be so much happier if the guy had just thrown a grenade and killed 100 people.
Yeah, wonder what good ol' Timmy would have said if it was a Bomb made from Diazodinitrophenol and AMmonium Nitrate.
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To those telling me people can't kill dozens of human beings without a gun, you're very wrong. The Boston bombing, they used pressure cookers. It's radical Islam, plain and simple. Also it seems like it's a common place that gun free zones are attacked...hmm I wonder why. Gun control doesn't work, it never has, it's all about who is behind the guns. Taking away civilians rights to protect themselves isn't just stupid, it puts us all in danger without the means to protect ourselves. I'd rather have dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.
There is at least one distinct reason he attacked a gay bar and not a Hell's Angels clubhouse....
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With Gun Control, only the bad guys will have guns (since they do not follow the law)
Only thing that accomplishes is removing ways of protection from upstanding citizens.
Talk about being at a disadvantage during burglary etc
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He is absolutely muslim, and he has already been linked to isis. Where do you get your facts?
aside from the 911 call where he claimed it - what was the connection?
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With Gun Control, only the bad guys will have guns (since they do not follow the law)
Only thing that accomplishes is removing ways of protection from upstanding citizens.
Talk about being at a disadvantage during burglary etc
Yep. I played a club tonight, very popular and usually packed club. It was quiet and somber tonight. Everyone in FL is affected by the shootings, particularly those in the entertainment/club industry. It can happen anyway.
A few of those around me were all packing heat, talking about what they'd do. others had fantasies about running to their vehicles to grab a gun if someone starts shooting. It won't help there :(
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;D "Huffington shitpost"
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let me repeat
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Yeah let's show the statistics up to 2014 - how convenient
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US as a nation is fucked up in the head and will breed more and more mass shootings - unfortunately. Norway in the stats is just plain stupid - all caused by one nutcase in a tiny nation producing a silly number while US had 133 mass shootings. Talk about twisting the truth.
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According to these text messages - shooting went on for over a half hour.
http://abc7.com/news/mom-fears-worst-after-texting-with-son-in-orlando-nightclub-shooting/1383109/
33 minutes between the first and last text message. Shooting started before and ended after that.
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I've been vocally anti-war from the beginning. I've been vocally against the militarization of the police.
People on the right like to say that we should ban all muslim immigration (and sometimes all immigration) until we can figure out how to prevent the bad guys from getting in.
Well, perhaps we should ban the sale of all guns until we can figure out how to prevent the crazy ones from gaining access to them.
People on the left like to say
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According to these text messages - shooting went on for over a half hour.
http://abc7.com/news/mom-fears-worst-after-texting-with-son-in-orlando-nightclub-shooting/1383109/
33 minutes between the first and last text message. Shooting started before and ended after that.
over 3 hours of negotiations with the shooter, barricaded in bathroom with hostages. he started killing them, they breached and went in. There was an early breach by police, then they pulled back for a few hours. how horrible for those people stuck in the bathroom with the shooter for hours.
I don't know what protocol is... but 3 hours... it's always easy to play monday morning QB, we werent there. But 3 hours...
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solution = ban guns
stupid, just plain stupid and lazy.
Guns are banned in Japan
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You think there would be 50 dead helpless innocents if every other person in that bar had a gun?
No but if everyone always carried guns, there would be a fuck load of more gun violence and dead people **everywhere else**. Are you proposing that more people carrying guns will take U.S. closer to Japan stats?
My god you people frustrate me sometimes. Might as well make hand grenades mandatory to control people with guns. Right?
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They were very fortunate that one of the best trauma hospitals in the state was a few blocks away from where the shooting took place.
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Trump's Latest Conspiracy Theory: Obama Somehow Involved in Orlando Massacre
Esquire
Donald Trump, the most prominent Republican right now, suggested on national TV on Monday that President Obama is possibly complicit in Sunday's horrific terror attack in Orlando. And maybe, Trump hinted, the president is even somehow involved.
On Fox & Friends, the presumptive GOP presidential candidate said, "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands—it's one or the other and either one is unacceptable."
"Look," he continued, "we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind. And the something else in mind—you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."
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Trump's Latest Conspiracy Theory: Obama Somehow Involved in Orlando Massacre
Esquire
Donald Trump, the most prominent Republican right now, suggested on national TV on Monday that President Obama is possibly complicit in Sunday's horrific terror attack in Orlando. And maybe, Trump hinted, the president is even somehow involved.
On Fox & Friends, the presumptive GOP presidential candidate said, "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands—it's one or the other and either one is unacceptable."
"Look," he continued, "we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind. And the something else in mind—you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."
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Trump stays true to his colors....or does he?
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Trump stays true to his colors....or does he?
orange? ???
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/omar-mateen-s-wife-tried-talk-him-out-orlando-attack-n592051
The Orlando gunman's wife has told federal agents she tried to talk her husband out of carrying out the attack, NBC News has learned.
Noor Mateen and Omar Mateen
Noor Mateen and her husband Pulse gunman, Omar Mateen, from a Facebook profile photo. via Facebook
Omar Mateen's current wife, Noor, told the FBI she was with him when he bought ammunition and a holster, several officials familiar with the case said. She told the FBI that she once drove him to the gay nightclub, Pulse, because he wanted to scope it out.
Mateen opened fire at Pulse early Sunday, leaving 49 dead and 53 injured.
Authorities are considering filing criminal charges against Noor for failing to tell them what she knew before the brutal attack, law enforcement officials say, but no decision has been made.
She is cooperating with investigators, several officials say.
Mateen died in a shootout with police following the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history — and the most deadly act of terror in the country since 9/11.
Mateen, 29, was born in New York to Afghan immigrants described by one family friend as loving, close-knit and "very respectful" of America. His clan ended up in Florida, where he attended Indian River State College in Fort Pierce, a two-hour drive south of Orlando. He graduated with an associate of science degree in criminal justice technology in 2006, and later got a job as a private security guard. He was fascinated with law enforcement, people who knew him said.
He was married twice, and was the father of a 3-year-old boy.
This is a breaking news story. Please refresh for updates.
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That bitch is in trouble
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Trump's Latest Conspiracy Theory: Obama Somehow Involved in Orlando Massacre
Esquire
Donald Trump, the most prominent Republican right now, suggested on national TV on Monday that President Obama is possibly complicit in Sunday's horrific terror attack in Orlando. And maybe, Trump hinted, the president is even somehow involved.
On Fox & Friends, the presumptive GOP presidential candidate said, "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands—it's one or the other and either one is unacceptable."
"Look," he continued, "we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind. And the something else in mind—you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."
(Excerpt) Read more at esquire.com ...
He wasn't involved, he was just celebrating. He's one of them.
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He wasn't involved, he was just celebrating. He's one of them.
The US President is 'one of them'?
One of who, Coach?
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she probably has a stinky pussy
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641598/Surviving-friend-teen-murdered-Orlando-massacre-sobs-guilt-recounts-shooter-asked-black-people-bathroom-stall-hiding-spare-having-suffered-enough.html
>:(
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641598/Surviving-friend-teen-murdered-Orlando-massacre-sobs-guilt-recounts-shooter-asked-black-people-bathroom-stall-hiding-spare-having-suffered-enough.html
>:(
According to the Muslim leader at the Orlando mosque.... "death is the sentence"
So why was she spared? That Muslim leader's "sentence" was disregarded in this case ::)
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Strange that he would choose to "spare" the blacks when he targeted a club that was mostly full of blacks and Latinos.
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Strange that he would choose to "spare" the blacks when he targeted a club that was mostly full of blacks and Latinos.
I saw quite a few black and Latino victims in the photos.
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Strange that he would choose to "spare" the blacks when he targeted a club that was mostly full of blacks and Latinos.
No one is claiming muslim islamo-gay racist homosexual liberal democrats are all that smart. :D
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641598/Surviving-friend-teen-murdered-Orlando-massacre-sobs-guilt-recounts-shooter-asked-black-people-bathroom-stall-hiding-spare-having-suffered-enough.html
>:(
He spared Black peeps?
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He spared Black peeps?
wait a minute. I'm confused. So if your black and gay, the means you're 2 minorities. So a minority plus a minority equals a majority, and muslims don't hate you? ???
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wait a minute. I'm confused. So if your black and gay, the means you're 2 minorities. So a minority plus a minority equals a majority, and muslims don't hate you? ???
Logic of a madman mussie? :D
I checked the victims though, and although the majority were latinos, there were some hebrews in the mix as well, so maybe he just skipped those hebrews inside that toilet.
All in all the majority were latinos with some occasional hebrews.
Judging by the names you'd think Orlando was a mexican town.
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Orlando gunman was HIV-negative, likely a long-term steroid user, autopsy shows
by Del Quentin Wilber
The autopsy of the gunman who massacred 49 people in a Florida nightclub attack last month revealed he was HIV-negative and likely a long-term user of steroids, two U.S. law enforcement officials said.
The revelation comes as FBI agents continue to scour the background of Omar Mateen for clues as to why he launched his June 12 rampage at Orlando’s Pulse nightclub, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
The 29-year-old had became radicalized in recent years, FBI officials have said, and pledged allegiance to Islamic State militants during his attack.
Federal investigators are not sure if steroids played a role in the shooting. A medical examiner found evidence of physical changes to Mateen’s body that were consistent with long-term steroid use, the officials said, and is seeking to confirm that assessment through further testing.
The National Institute on Drug Abuse reports on its website that using high doses of steroids, which help build body mass and muscle, “increase irritability and aggression. Some steroid abusers report that they have committed aggressive acts, such as physical fighting or armed robbery, theft, vandalism, or burglary.”
A spokeswoman for the Orange County, Fla. medical examiner declined to comment on the preliminary findings.
“Whether or not an individual used steroids can be determined through specimen tests,” Carrie Proudfit, the spokeswoman wrote in an email. “Toxicology reports would reflect those results. They'll be made available to law enforcement.”
Proudfit referred further questions to the FBI. Bureau spokeswoman Carol Cratty declined to comment.
The results, if confirmed through further testing, would not be entirely surprising. Mateen’s ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, told reporters shortly after the shooting that the former security guard had a history of steroid use. A former coworker of Mateen’s told CBS News that the gunman told him in 2006 that he had started using steroids.
The law enforcement officials also disclosed that the autopsy determined that Mateen was HIV-negative.
On June 21, Spanish-language television network Univision aired a report in which “Miguel,” a man wearing a disguise to conceal his identity, alleged that he had sex with Mateen after meeting him on a gay dating app. Miguel said Mateen had sex with other men too, including a threesome with a Puerto Rican who allegedly told Mateen, after having had unprotected sex with him, that he was HIV-positive.
Several Pulse regulars have also come forward, claiming to have seen Mateen at the club or to have been contacted by him on the gay dating apps Grindr, Jack'd and Adam4Adam.
The FBI, however, has been unable to find evidence to corroborate such claims. Agents have failed to find any photographs, text messages, smartphone apps, gay pornography or cell-tower location data that suggest that Mateen -- who was twice married to women and had a young son -- had a secret gay life, law enforcement officials have told The Times.
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Only a month has passed and the Orlando shooting has already been upstaged by Dallas shootings and Nice attack
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Only a month has passed and the Orlando shooting has already been upstaged by Dallas shootings and Nice attack
And they are both upstaged by poke a man game
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Methinks you got a point.