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Title: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 18, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
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Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2016, 11:22:18 PM
The guy is obviously an islamaphobe.

 ;D
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 18, 2016, 11:26:34 PM
I got upset about this too - but then I heard the gun shop owner didn't give the FBI the name of the person.

Is this correct, or no?   I didn't read it, just heard it on radio, so no source, it could be wrong.

Clear it up, please?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 18, 2016, 11:56:47 PM
I got upset about this too - but then I heard the gun shop owner didn't give the FBI the name of the person.

Is this correct, or no?   I didn't read it, just heard it on radio, so no source, it could be wrong.

Clear it up, please?

It's kinda like when he was interviewed three times, on the terrorist watch list but released three times and off the radar but was really on the radar.... but not really.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 18, 2016, 11:58:31 PM
It's kinda like when he was interviewed three times, on the terrorist watch list but released three times and off the radar but was really on the radar.... but not really.

you didn't answer the question.   Maybe you don't want to.


Did the gun shop dude give the Fbi the NAME of the terrorist?   yes or No, coach? 
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: RagingBull on June 19, 2016, 12:08:04 AM
How would they know his name?  He did not purchase anything there.  Am I incorrect?

I got upset about this too - but then I heard the gun shop owner didn't give the FBI the name of the person.

Is this correct, or no?   I didn't read it, just heard it on radio, so no source, it could be wrong.

Clear it up, please?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 12:10:22 AM
How would they know his name?  He did not purchase anything there.  Am I incorrect?


Did the store or parking lot have footage.

And if we KNOW the FBi didn't have his name - why are people mad they didn't stop him based upon this? 
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coffeed on June 19, 2016, 03:00:43 AM
How would they know his name?  He did not purchase anything there.  Am I incorrect?

If people on internet forums can be tracked down in a couple days by the FBI then I think it's pretty easy for them to locate a guy like this considering he never even left the area and he had the gun background checks they say. So he's in the system, in the area, and looking for bulk ammo and armor. I refuse to believe the FBI is that inept... Occam's razor would probably have us believe their hands are tied and they cannot act.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 06:52:50 AM
Any evidence they did in fact run the background check?

I thought he just asked questions then left. V

If there is paperwork, then the fbi blew it.   If it's just some dude asking questions and they never got his name, it's tough to blame them if the store owner never gave the name. 

Have we clarified that yet?

I
Was one of the first getbiggers to blame fbi but if they don't have his name,,,
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 07:41:34 AM
you didn't answer the question.   Maybe you don't want to.


Did the gun shop dude give the Fbi the NAME of the terrorist?   yes or No, coach?  

Well, that's the excuse they're giving. You can't sit there and tell me that if the shop owner calls the FBI and IF they asked for a description of the guy they couldn't followed up with an investigation. You don't need a name.

The FBI either dropped the ball or was given orders not to pursue it.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 19, 2016, 08:16:51 AM
A super surveillance state apparatus requires a reason to exist.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 09:13:10 AM
Well, that's the excuse they're giving. You can't sit there and tell me that if the shop owner calls the FBI and IF they asked for a description of the guy they couldn't followed up with an investigation. You don't need a name.

The FBI either dropped the ball or was given orders not to pursue it.

You don't need a name?   

WHAT?

There are a quarter of a million people living in Orlando.   The FBI can get a report of "this shady looking brown man tried to buy armor/bulk ammo, we got a bad vibe".... and they're supposed to magically know who it is?

"You don't need a name?"

Really?      REALLY?

You want to have a CT for this one, I did too.  I posted "Shit the FBI didn't act" long before you did.  THEN, we got more info, learned the shop owner didn't have a name, and oh, then I couldn't blame the FBI because they didn't have enough info to know who the person was. 

"The FBI either dropped ball, or some magicaly stand-down order was given" = COMPLETE speculation on your part.   Wait til you learn about 911+standdown.... your boy alex jones (you quote his site enough) can tell you plenty about that ;)
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: RagingBull on June 19, 2016, 09:29:51 AM
http://allenwestrepublic.com/2016/06/16/barack-hussein-obama-has-quite-literally-handcuffed-federal-anti-jihad-investigators/#
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 19, 2016, 09:35:31 AM
I got upset about this too - but then I heard the gun shop owner didn't give the FBI the name of the person.

Is this correct, or no?   I didn't read it, just heard it on radio, so no source, it could be wrong.

Clear it up, please?
The gun shop owner reported him to the FBI and refused to sell him anything. The guy was looking for body armor and bulk ammunition.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 09:37:04 AM
The gun shop owner reported him to the FBI and refused to sell him anything. The guy was looking for body armor and bulk ammunition.

Thanks.  This point is confusion.  The the gun shop owner have his NAME?

If so, then YES, the FBI screwed the pooch and blew it.
If not, then I'm not sure I want to react and blame them instantly.  They could have maybe caught up, but "brown dude acting shady" is hard to identify.

Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: SquidVicious on June 19, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
Thanks.  This point is confusion.  The the gun shop owner have his NAME?

If so, then YES, the FBI screwed the pooch and blew it.
If not, then I'm not sure I want to react and blame them instantly.  They could have maybe caught up, but "brown dude acting shady" is hard to identify.
Unless the gun shop owner asked him to fill out forms and he complied accurately, how would he have gotten the shooter's name. More likely would be getting his license plate number.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 09:42:32 AM
Unless the gun shop owner asked him to fill out forms and he complied accurately, how would he have gotten the shooter's name. More likely would be getting his license plate number.

I've just yet to see anything from the gun shop owner saying "Well, I gave the feds the name and licence number..." but I haven't seen that yet.  He just kept explaining the interaction they had. 

I think he may have wished he got that info, and I think IF he had given the feds those details, he'd be shouting that the loudest.

I suspect he did not, and he was doing the interview to clear his name because he didn't do enough to stop it.   Again, until we KNOW if he gave name or plate or other info to the feds, we're arguing with seriously incomplete info.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: BodyMachine on June 19, 2016, 09:45:28 AM
You don't need a name?   

WHAT?

There are a quarter of a million people living in Orlando.   The FBI can get a report of "this shady looking brown man tried to buy armor/bulk ammo, we got a bad vibe".... and they're supposed to magically know who it is?

"You don't need a name?"

Really?      REALLY?

You want to have a CT for this one, I did too.  I posted "Shit the FBI didn't act" long before you did.  THEN, we got more info, learned the shop owner didn't have a name, and oh, then I couldn't blame the FBI because they didn't have enough info to know who the person was. 

"The FBI either dropped ball, or some magicaly stand-down order was given" = COMPLETE speculation on your part.   Wait til you learn about 911+standdown.... your boy alex jones (you quote his site enough) can tell you plenty about that ;)

Lol, Coach at his best again
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 11:20:40 AM
You don't need a name?   

WHAT?

There are a quarter of a million people living in Orlando.   The FBI can get a report of "this shady looking brown man tried to buy armor/bulk ammo, we got a bad vibe".... and they're supposed to magically know who it is?

"You don't need a name?"

Really?      REALLY?

You want to have a CT for this one, I did too.  I posted "Shit the FBI didn't act" long before you did.  THEN, we got more info, learned the shop owner didn't have a name, and oh, then I couldn't blame the FBI because they didn't have enough info to know who the person was. 

"The FBI either dropped ball, or some magicaly stand-down order was given" = COMPLETE speculation on your part.   Wait til you learn about 911+standdown.... your boy alex jones (you quote his site enough) can tell you plenty about that ;)

Please...a quarter of a million people in Orlando but only one middle eastern man going into a gun store asking for...

Military grade armor
Ammunition in bulk

And when they wouldn't give it to him, got on the phone speaking Arabic to someone on the other line. No red flags there...lol

So to reiterate, no you don't need a picture, you don't need a video. But as soon as my friend texts me back, I'll let you know. He's an LAPD detective.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 11:24:53 AM
Please...a quarter of a million people in Orlando but only one middle eastern man going into a gun store asking for...

Military grade armor
Ammunition in bulk

And when they wouldn't give it to him, got on the phone speaking Arabic to someone on the other line. No red flags there...lol

So to reiterate, no you don't need a picture, you don't need a video. But as soon as my friend texts me back, I'll let you know. He's an LAPD detective.

Of course there were red flags.  Of course he set off alarm bells at the gun store. BUT we don't know if they got his name. 

 
Did they know his name - yes or no?     It's pretty simple, man. 
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
Of course there were red flags.  Of course he set off alarm bells at the gun store. BUT we don't know if they got his name. 

 
Did they know his name - yes or no?     It's pretty simple, man. 


I already answered this. Keep up
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
I already answered this. Keep up

You dont know if the FBI had his name.  You dont know what info they were given.

But you do know they are in on it, or they dropped the ball somehow.

Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 19, 2016, 12:47:46 PM
Someone claims the FBI investigated the shooter for 8 months.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 12:57:48 PM
Someone claims the FBI investigated the shooter for 8 months.

they did 2 investigations on him... 2013/2014, I think.   Initial 6 month + a 6 month extension, but they closed it after 10 months because they just couldn't find any evidence. 
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 02:06:51 PM
You dont know if the FBI had his name.  You dont know what info they were given.

But you do know they are in on it, or they dropped the ball somehow.



You're arguing just to argue. Take a break. And yes they didn't just drop the ball, they took it and swept It under the rug.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Never1AShow on June 19, 2016, 02:17:47 PM
You guys can actually both be right here.  Without a name or other identifying info it makes identifying the guy very hard, but not impossible.  On the other hand it's been well established that the FBI has been provided marching orders that now err on the side of caution due to "islamaphobia".  How serious they took it determines how many resources they were willing to put into it and how far they were willing to go.

They could have dumped the numbers from the nearest cell tower (or all nearest) in the 1 hour window when the cell call was made and then run those numbers against a database of known investigated phone numbers.  I'm sure they had this dudes cell number in their database already (or should have).  Now, if this guy had poor opsec, which is usually the case, then bingo they'd have gotten a hit and Id'd the guy. 

But doing this is a huge pain in the ass and usually reserved for things that are being taken very seriously and normal random tips probably don't rise to that level.  After the Boston bombing or 9/11 or San Bernardino? Yes. 
Here, who knows?  Hindsight is 20/20.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
The FBI either dropped the ball or was given orders not to pursue it.

Who is giving the FBI orders to let terr'ists operate freely?

Wait.........   Coach, do you believe Obama is secretly working for the terr'ists?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 02:46:02 PM
Who is giving the FBI orders to let terr'ists operate freely?

Wait.........   Coach, do you believe Obama is secretly working for the terr'ists?

Hahaha, "secretly"? He makes it known. How many times and how long have you heard me say he's one of them?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Never1AShow on June 19, 2016, 03:07:17 PM
The "orders" here are not specific orders relating to this guy or this investigation, it is the policies and procedures put in place by his appointees and lackeys since he took office that choose to tread lightly and defer to organizations like CAIR, which basically result in a hands off policy when it comes to investigating mosques and connections.  Some agent isn't going to run down those leads if he knows he can go for coffee instead and no one cares.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 19, 2016, 04:04:14 PM
It'll be sad to see all these Obama conspiracies go away.  ::)
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 04:58:33 PM
It'll be sad to see all these Obama conspiracies go away.  ::)

How can it be a conspiracy when it's been proven?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 05:23:47 PM
The "orders" here are not specific orders relating to this guy or this investigation, it is the policies and procedures put in place by his appointees and lackeys since he took office that choose to tread lightly and defer to organizations like CAIR, which basically result in a hands off policy when it comes to investigating mosques and connections.  Some agent isn't going to run down those leads if he knows he can go for coffee instead and no one cares.

The response from my LAPD friend...


"The FBI is going to take it in the ass for this one... Pardon the pun ... They are a bunch of incompetent punk ass bitches anyway... The administration has been spreading them thin using them as the muscle for the justice department investigating cops and police departments ... Important shit like that... Don't worry about the crazy Islamic terrorists ...

"Don't get me going on how dysfunctional the FBI is ... Haaaa sorry!!!"
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: SF1900 on June 19, 2016, 07:59:26 PM
It'll be sad to see all these Obama conspiracies go away.  ::)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZdATN4f.jpg)
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 09:08:36 PM
Hahaha, "secretly"? He makes it known. How many times and how long have you heard me say he's one of them?

Oh.  You think the US president is 'one of' ISIS, then? 

mmmmkay, I can see you've reached this conclusion thru logic and reason.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: SaintAnger on June 19, 2016, 09:56:49 PM
The response from my LAPD friend...


"The FBI is going to take it in the ass for this one... Pardon the pun ... They are a bunch of incompetent punk ass bitches anyway... The administration has been spreading them thin using them as the muscle for the justice department investigating cops and police departments ... Important shit like that... Don't worry about the crazy Islamic terrorists ...

"Don't get me going on how dysfunctional the FBI is ... Haaaa sorry!!!"

Right.  We should leave it all to the barely high school educated, roid raging "you must respect me" cops who moonlight as late shift UPS truck loaders for supplemental income.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 10:16:59 PM
Oh.  You think the US president is 'one of' ISIS, then? 

mmmmkay, I can see you've reached this conclusion thru logic and reason.

He's supporting and sympathizing with Muslim extremists. I know you defend him...you voted for it. If you see otherwise you're blind (as if we didn't already know this). Should be tried for treason and brought up before a firing squad.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
He's supporting and sympathizing with Muslim extremists. I know you defend him...you voted for it. If you see otherwise you're blind (as if we didn't already know this). Should be tried for treason and brought up before a firing squad.

I cannot believe you say such harsh things.   Usually your posts are so logical and non-erratic.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 10:22:16 PM
You don't need a name?   

WHAT?

There are a quarter of a million people living in Orlando.   The FBI can get a report of "this shady looking brown man tried to buy armor/bulk ammo, we got a bad vibe".... and they're supposed to magically know who it is?

"You don't need a name?"

Really?      REALLY?

You want to have a CT for this one, I did too.  I posted "Shit the FBI didn't act" long before you did.  THEN, we got more info, learned the shop owner didn't have a name, and oh, then I couldn't blame the FBI because they didn't have enough info to know who the person was. 

"The FBI either dropped ball, or some magicaly stand-down order was given" = COMPLETE speculation on your part.   Wait til you learn about 911+standdown.... your boy alex jones (you quote his site enough) can tell you plenty about that ;)

More....

"Yes...That's how investigations sometimes start... They might have more suspect info from other places , other reports or existing info... You have to build a case... Just like a murder case with only a physical description ... Happens all the time... All they had was a description on Timothy Mcvey and got him on a random traffic stop
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 10:23:23 PM
I cannot believe you say such harsh things.   Usually your posts are so logical and non-erratic.

And yours are just Strawman talking points.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 10:23:49 PM
More....

"Yes...That's how investigations sometimes start... They might have more suspect info from other places , other reports or existing info... You have to build a case... Just like a murder case with only a physical description ... Happens all the time... All they had was a description on Timothy Mcvey and got him on a random traffic stop

You still have no idea what info the shop owner gave the FBI, do you?   You're just imagining?  
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 10:25:25 PM
And yours are just Strawman talking points.

LOL!  Maybe you have been missing the strawman/240 fierce debates on the political board.   

Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: SaintAnger on June 19, 2016, 10:29:26 PM
He's supporting and sympathizing with Muslim extremists. I know you defend him...you voted for it. If you see otherwise you're blind (as if we didn't already know this). Should be tried for treason and brought up before a firing squad.

You don't really mean that.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 10:32:04 PM
You still have no idea what info the shop owner gave the FBI, do you?   You're just imagining?  

I see, you must know from know from you personally going over to interview him yourself. You read what I read. You read he had no name and nothing could be done. I just posted the words from cop of 28 years. Shut up.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 10:33:35 PM
I see, you must know from know from you personally going over to interview him yourself. You read what I read. You read he had no name and nothing could be done. I just posted the words from cop of 28 years. Shut up.

You want me to prove a negative?  I can't PROVE the fbi didn't cover up the scenario you just invented.

For the 1000th time, you can't just make something up, and it's true because others cannot prove it's false.  You just decided the FBI purposely did this, and since I cannot prove that's not the case, you win?

I mean, 7 years olds use this logic on the playground, and THEY get clowned for it.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 10:36:57 PM
You don't really mean that.

Oh hell yes I do. Someone needs to have the balls to have him investigated big time with no bias setting political affiliations aside. He's lower than dirt.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2016, 10:38:20 PM
You want me to prove a negative?  I can't PROVE the fbi didn't cover up the scenario you just invented.

For the 1000th time, you can't just make something up, and it's true because others cannot prove it's false.  You just decided the FBI purposely did this, and since I cannot prove that's not the case, you win?

I mean, 7 years olds use this logic on the playground, and THEY get clowned for it.

How about using some commonsense?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 19, 2016, 11:04:40 PM
How about using some commonsense?

It is common sense that he fbi was forced to stop investigation because the U.S. President is a secret Isis member?   
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: SquidVicious on June 19, 2016, 11:54:32 PM
I've just yet to see anything from the gun shop owner saying "Well, I gave the feds the name and licence number..." but I haven't seen that yet.  He just kept explaining the interaction they had. 

I think he may have wished he got that info, and I think IF he had given the feds those details, he'd be shouting that the loudest.

I suspect he did not, and he was doing the interview to clear his name because he didn't do enough to stop it.   Again, until we KNOW if he gave name or plate or other info to the feds, we're arguing with seriously incomplete info.
What do you mean by this? Are you seriously suggesting that any brown-skinned man who enters a gun shop seeking body armor be racially profiled? Should gun shop owners be empowered to point their guns at customers they find suspicious to "stop" crimes before they occur? Again, please explain your racist tendencies to suggest that white men have the ability to predict crimes committed by brown men.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Never1AShow on June 20, 2016, 06:28:17 AM
I don't have any of that Level 3 body armor right here, but I'm expecting a shipment in tomorrow or the next day.  Write down your name and phone number and I'll call you when it's in.

Also it's perfectly legit to go outside and get someone's plate number (or to give the cops or FBI your parking lot video).
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 20, 2016, 07:31:27 AM
How can it be a conspiracy when it's been proven?

You're worse than our resident flat-earther when it comes to Obama.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: SF1900 on June 20, 2016, 07:35:45 AM
You're worse than our resident flat-earther when it comes to Obama.

(http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/files/2014/08/conspiracy-theories-everywhere.jpg)
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 20, 2016, 09:34:29 AM
I don't have any of that Level 3 body armor right here, but I'm expecting a shipment in tomorrow or the next day.  Write down your name and phone number and I'll call you when it's in.

Also it's perfectly legit to go outside and get someone's plate number (or to give the cops or FBI your parking lot video).

He should have.  We have no idea if he did or did not. 

That's what is funny here.  Coach has no idea what info the fbi had, but he's outraged and blaming them for treason nonetheless.   He knew his answer immediately and will just ignore anything to the contrary
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2016, 10:07:13 AM
It is common sense that he fbi was forced to stop investigation because the U.S. President is a secret Isis member?   
Ahem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3649490/Authorities-set-release-redacted-transcripts-calls-Orlando-shooter-pledged-allegiance-ISIS-solidarity-Boston-bombers.html
They cover this stuff up big time. How is it not treason if you cover up what actually happened, call it a lone wolf incident to give you the right to talk gun control, so you can start disarming your people?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 20, 2016, 10:28:56 AM
It is common sense that he fbi was forced to stop investigation because the U.S. President is a secret Isis member?  

There you go lying, spinning and putting words in my mouth. it's pathological. Where did I say he an Isis member? He's a sympathizer, he's an enabler and he protects them. He's a radical and ABSOLUTELY loves it when tragedies like this happen because it just furthers his lame ass agendas.

Funny though, you're right there defending Obama at every turn but you start multiple threads a day shitting on Trump. Explain.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 20, 2016, 10:42:50 AM
How does obama help & enable ISIS?

You're not saying the CTs about us giving pallets of weapons to them are true, are you?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2016, 12:03:33 PM
How does obama help & enable ISIS?

You're not saying the CTs about us giving pallets of weapons to them are true, are you?
By importing even more Syrian refugees you stupid ass. Not to mention ISIS is making fake passports and the FBI cannot even properly vet them.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 20, 2016, 12:05:03 PM
By importing even more Syrian refugees you stupid ass. Not to mention ISIS is making fake passports and the FBI cannot even properly vet them.

Trump is the one who said we have to let them in.  And that's AFTER isis vowed to smuggle bad guys in.   July 2015, remember?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2016, 12:06:58 PM
Trump is the one who said we have to let them in.  And that's AFTER isis vowed to smuggle bad guys in.   July 2015, remember?
That's okay don't reply to my statement just start on another tangent.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 20, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
By importing even more Syrian refugees you stupid ass. Not to mention ISIS is making fake passports and the FBI cannot even properly vet them.

what I"m saying it, EVERYONE wants to let them in, both obama and trump.  Not sure how to stop it.  I sure don't want them coming in, but when both parties agree :(
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2016, 12:22:44 PM
what I"m saying it, EVERYONE wants to let them in, both obama and trump.  Not sure how to stop it.  I sure don't want them coming in, but when both parties agree :(
I would like to see his actual statements to make an assumption like that, all I can find from July was that he said Christian refugees cannot come in as easy as Muslim refugees.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 20, 2016, 01:00:30 PM
I would like to see his actual statements to make an assumption like that, all I can find from July was that he said Christian refugees cannot come in as easy as Muslim refugees.

Remember, this was AFTER isis said they'll be sneaking in bad guys.   This was actually September 9 when Trump said it.  ISIS promised sneaking their guys a few days earlier (sept 4th), so trump did clearly have that info and said they could stay anyway.
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/isis-smuggler-we-will-use-refugee-crisis-to-infiltrate-west/



The United States should take in some refugees from Syria, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Tuesday night.
"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to," Trump said in his first Fox News appearance in two weeks, appearing on "The O'Reilly Factor."

"This was started by President Obama when he didn't go in and do the job he should have when he drew the line in the sand, which turned out to be a very artificial line," Trump said in reference to Obama's red-line warning to Syrian leader Bashar Assad in 2013. "But you know, it's living in hell in Syria. There's no question about it. They're living in hell, and something has to be done."

Asked if he would have removed Assad, Trump said "something should have happened" after it was revealed that he used sarin gas on his own people.

"Probably, in retrospect, they should have gone in and done something with Assad. But you know, Assad is not our biggest problem because Assad and ISIS are actually fighting," Trump explained. "So now what we're doing is we're fighting ISIS and ISIS wants to fight Assad. Some people could say, 'Why don't you just let them fight out and you take out the remnants?'"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-syrian-refugees-213430#ixzz3lshJlUTR
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to," Trump said in his first Fox News appearance in two weeks, appearing on "The O'Reilly Factor."
So this translates to the plan of bringing in Syrian refugees in by the thousands?
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 20, 2016, 01:08:48 PM
So this translates to the plan of bringing in Syrian refugees in by the thousands?

You can defend his words any way you want.  But they're not "Sorry, we cannot accept any syrian refugees".

Don't worry, he later flipflopped and adopted the new approach, which I'm cool with.   Trump's a nice choice for those who can overlook his flipflopping on just about every issue. 
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 20, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
You can defend his words any way you want.  But they're not "Sorry, we cannot accept any syrian refugees".

Don't worry, he later flipflopped and adopted the new approach, which I'm cool with.   Trump's a nice choice for those who can overlook his flipflopping on just about every issue. 
He didn't flip flop, he never said he's taking Muslim refugees in the first place. It was too vague of a comment to make any assumptions. But you love to generalize everything and put words in others mouths. Much like the dishonest media! Sad!
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Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Hypo on June 20, 2016, 02:21:14 PM
It will be interesting to see how many Brews Obamarama pardons at the end of his term.

If only Tookie held out.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 20, 2016, 08:07:50 PM
It will be interesting to see how many Brews Obamarama pardons at the end of his term.

If only Tookie held out.

He's going to pardon Bin Laden right after we find out the Seal Team killing was a hoax.  :)
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Never1AShow on June 20, 2016, 10:45:37 PM
He didn't flip flop, he never said he's taking Muslim refugees in the first place. It was too vague of a comment to make any assumptions. But you love to generalize everything and put words in others mouths. Much like the dishonest media! Sad!
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This has been going on for the entire campaign, him saying something vague or being taken out of context or misquoted and then it blows up through the lying liberal media and he then clarifies his throwaway comment.  Either that or flat out misrepresentations often by omission.  A perfect example is his comment on planned parenthood.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2016, 05:01:49 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/20percent-of-donald-trump%e2%80%99s-campaign-spending-goes-to-trump-businesses-filing-says/ar-AAhmjiU?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: TheShape. on June 21, 2016, 05:19:05 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/20percent-of-donald-trump%e2%80%99s-campaign-spending-goes-to-trump-businesses-filing-says/ar-AAhmjiU?ocid=spartanntp
Stopped reading after it said his campaign is broke.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2016, 05:36:06 AM
Stopped reading after it said his campaign is broke.

The campaign being broke reads like bullshit. Have seen it on the news feed for two days.

The disclosures where the money has been spent could be verified if someone looked it up. https://projects.propublica.org/itemizer/committee/C00580100/2016
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 21, 2016, 09:39:04 AM
The campaign being broke reads like bullshit. Have seen it on the news feed for two days.

The disclosures where the money has been spent could be verified if someone looked it up. https://projects.propublica.org/itemizer/committee/C00580100/2016

1 million of the 3 million spent was actually written to Trump's own companies?

LOL!  He's manufacturing scandals to sink himself now.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 21, 2016, 09:44:30 AM
There you go lying, spinning and putting words in my mouth. it's pathological. Where did I say he an Isis member? He's a sympathizer, he's an enabler and he protects them. He's a radical and ABSOLUTELY loves it when tragedies like this happen because it just furthers his lame ass agendas.

Funny though, you're right there defending Obama at every turn but you start multiple threads a day shitting on Trump. Explain.

While we're at it, I don't see any threads about Killary that you've started. All Trump all day.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on June 21, 2016, 09:46:12 AM
https://www.facebook.com/WesternJournalism/videos/10154442651813984/

apparently, you are incapable of understanding that this is not the politics discussion forum.
The next time you want to write your retarded republican propaganda, please put your fat fingers on your mouse and click on this link:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=51.0

maybe someone in your community can assist you if the above task is too arduous for you to comprehend.

Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2016, 10:45:37 AM
1 million of the 3 million spent was actually written to Trump's own companies?

LOL!  He's manufacturing scandals to sink himself now.

Perhaps it's legal and the businesses had to charge something for services or space used. They had to know that expenditures must be reported.

No tax return is a huge red flag.

Trump is like Obama: People want change so bad they're desperate to believe anything.

My mistrust of Hillary Clinton is visceral and Trump is... Trump. Trump nearly caught up with Clinton on my fucktard scale with his abortion comments, LOL! It's disgusting that we couldn't find better candidates.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 21, 2016, 11:52:35 AM
apparently, you are incapable of understanding that this is not the politics discussion forum.
The next time you want to write your retarded republican propaganda, please put your fat fingers on your mouse and click on this link:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=51.0

maybe someone in your community can assist you if the above task is too arduous for you to comprehend.



In my defense I post from my phone about 95% of the time...usually when I'm taking a shit.
Title: Re: Just another example of Obama protecting his own
Post by: 240 is Back on June 21, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
At least Trump isn't catching 20 year old rape charges.   There's always that.