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Title: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 20, 2016, 07:27:44 AM
For a minute, Imagine if the IFBB judging criteria of 2016 were judging bodybuilding with this type of physique as the ideal ...




WoooSHHHHHHHH



Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2016, 08:09:28 AM
For a minute, Imagine if the IFBB judging criteria of 2016 were judging bodybuilding with this type of physique as the ideal ...




WoooSHHHHHHHH


Mentzerīs upper Forearm is massive. I read he liked do BB reverse curls on the Preacher.


Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: dj181 on June 20, 2016, 08:12:17 AM
^^^ according to some here he has shit arms LOL
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2016, 08:15:05 AM
^^^ according to some here he has shit arms LOL
Both the Mentzers were strong. I remember Bill Pearl commenting on this in a Book of His.
canīt remember who it was on here but someone wrote about Training with them...
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: funk51 on June 20, 2016, 08:16:18 AM
^^^ according to some here he has shit arms LOL
              no oil or site injections = shit arms ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: funk51 on June 20, 2016, 08:18:08 AM
Both the Mentzers were strong. I remember Bill Pearl commenting on this in a Book of His.
[/quote           ]i heard ray used to squat 925 lbs in training... :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: dj181 on June 20, 2016, 08:18:30 AM
             no oil or site injections = shit arms ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

his tris were OUT-FUCKING-STANDING 8)

Both the Mentzers were strong. I remember Bill Pearl commenting on this in a Book of His.

they should have been as HIT is based upon progressive overload and strength increases
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2016, 08:22:39 AM
his tris were OUT-FUCKING-STANDING 8)

they should have been as HIT is based upon progressive overload and strength increases
Not a fan of Heavy Duty Training but it worked for them...
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Griffith on June 20, 2016, 08:48:42 AM
Which year is that?

Huge arms on Mentzer!
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 20, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
For a minute, Imagine if the IFBB judging criteria of 2016 were judging bodybuilding with this type of physique as the ideal ...




WoooSHHHHHHHH





Sammir looking dry there. What year was that pic taken?
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 20, 2016, 08:58:15 AM
              no oil or site injections = shit arms ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Legit 18 5/8" biceps  8)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 20, 2016, 08:59:46 AM
Both the Mentzers were strong. I remember Bill Pearl commenting on this in a Book of His.
canīt remember who it was on here but someone wrote about Training with them...

Casey Viator (who also did HIT) was one of the strongest (along with Bertil Fox).
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 20, 2016, 09:01:07 AM
Not a fan of Heavy Duty Training but it worked for them...

It also worked for a little unknown bodybuilder called Dorian Yates  ;)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
It also worked for a little unknown bodybuilder called Dorian Yates  ;)
True... but Pearl did very well with volume. I believe in leaving the gym with "Gas in the Tank".
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: FREAKgeek on June 20, 2016, 09:07:50 AM
It also worked for a little unknown bodybuilder called Dorian Yates  ;)

He and mentzer never got into Olympia shape from what was outlined in heavy duty
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Fortress on June 20, 2016, 11:23:34 AM
Both the Mentzers were strong. I remember Bill Pearl commenting on this in a Book of His.

I heard ray used to squat 925 lbs in training... :o

Not this shit again.

These two Mentzer twats did lots of partial squats. Like, three-inch partials. And anyway, there's no way in high hell some 250-pound bodybuilder is squatting with 925.

How many top elite powerlifters today can squat such a number with, say, only a belt and, maybe, wraps? One? Two? And these guys weigh well over 300 pounds.

Yeah, Ray was doing it.  ::)

One more thing. His name's spelled Samir. One m. HTH
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 20, 2016, 02:50:58 PM
Samir earned it in 83. But he loved life too much to go for seconds, especially against LH..
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 20, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
For a minute, Imagine if the IFBB judging criteria of 2016 were judging bodybuilding with this type of physique as the ideal ...




WoooSHHHHHHHH






that would be great,  i dont care what anybody says mike mentzer had one of the most pleasing physiques ever to set foot on the stage
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 20, 2016, 04:59:40 PM
Samir earned it in 83. But he loved life too much to go for seconds, especially against LH..

How come he could never duplicate his 1983 condition? Was it really that hard for him to come in dry?
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: dj181 on June 21, 2016, 08:36:01 AM
He and mentzer never got into Olympia shape from what was outlined in heavy duty

technically Mentzer did get into stage ready shape with heavy duty ie. the 1st version of it which was training 4 days a week each muscle twice a week for 3-6 failure sets per muscle
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 21, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
How come he could never duplicate his 1983 condition? Was it really that hard for him to come in dry?
What I said: he loved life too much. That means he was/is just a nice happy funny dude. Still is..
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Simple Simon on June 21, 2016, 01:16:11 PM
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/old-school-pictures/2132d1135545204-samir-bannout-samir-benout-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Taffin on June 21, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
What I said: he loved life too much. That means he was/is just a nice happy funny dude. Still is..

Was lucky enough to meet Samir at the British Grand Prix in Nottingham in the '90s after the show - I went multiple times so can't be sure if it was before or after the Momo tragedy.  He was an absolute professional, with a beaming smile (no homo #1) as he clearly loved his job and talked to us all for a super long period.  Didn't charge $20 for the pic with him either...

Talking of tragedies, I also met Ray McNeil, maybe at the same event?? (and squeezed his leg - no homo) even though I can't find him in the listings!?!?

Totally irrelevant point:  David Dearth and Porter Cottrell were impressive on stage, but very VERY diminutive in person...
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: njflex on June 21, 2016, 02:03:47 PM
What I said: he loved life too much. That means he was/is just a nice happy funny dude. Still is..
HE tried to add too much size and was quite bigger later 80's.nabba and later iffb yrs lost lines/condition.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: MAXX on June 21, 2016, 03:05:06 PM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/eda98e2c03eda07059d6746e22aca415/tumblr_nvsqrkeXh01ut2zt9o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on June 21, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/eda98e2c03eda07059d6746e22aca415/tumblr_nvsqrkeXh01ut2zt9o1_1280.jpg)

amazing how cartoony these guys physiques were at around the 200lbs mark.

goes to show that bigger does not equal better
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: MAXX on June 21, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
yeah no guts from modern bb drugs and just good balanced builds from heavy training
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Eric2 on June 21, 2016, 03:25:46 PM
Serge looks crazy there.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Slik on June 21, 2016, 09:19:48 PM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/eda98e2c03eda07059d6746e22aca415/tumblr_nvsqrkeXh01ut2zt9o1_1280.jpg)
this pic is so badass for so many reasons.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 22, 2016, 06:46:50 AM
this pic is so badass for so many reasons.


X 2 .


WoooSHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Nether Animal on June 22, 2016, 11:18:09 AM

Totally irrelevant point:  David Dearth and Porter Cottrell were impressive on stage, but very VERY diminutive in person...

Dearth is really small but he was able to get a great illusion on stage. Always one of the better conditioned guys...
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: njflex on June 22, 2016, 11:19:42 AM
Dearth is really small but he was able to get a great illusion on stage. Always one of the better conditioned guys...
5'6 I believe 190/205 onstage I think and cotrell same until he went to 220 or close but lost his lines a bit heavier..
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 22, 2016, 11:23:40 AM
Was lucky enough to meet Samir at the British Grand Prix in Nottingham in the '90s after the show - I went multiple times so can't be sure if it was before or after the Momo tragedy.  He was an absolute professional, with a beaming smile (no homo #1) as he clearly loved his job and talked to us all for a super long period.  Didn't charge $20 for the pic with him either...

Talking of tragedies, I also met Ray McNeil, maybe at the same event?? (and squeezed his leg - no homo) even though I can't find him in the listings!?!?

Totally irrelevant point:  David Dearth and Porter Cottrell were impressive on stage, but very VERY diminutive in person...
What happened to Porter ?  He was Levrone's training partner early 90s, as I remember...
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: njflex on June 22, 2016, 11:30:21 AM
What happened to Porter ?  He was Levrone's training partner early 90s, as I remember...
RETIRED still looks good not bbing big but muscular.he had a good run won some shows placed in mr o top ten few times ..
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Nether Animal on June 22, 2016, 11:46:07 AM
He left around the time that Labrada did, right? Two smaller guys that just couldn't compete at that mid-late '90s level..
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: njflex on June 22, 2016, 11:47:33 AM
He left around the time that Labrada did, right? Two smaller guys that just couldn't compete at that mid-late '90s level..
I THINK COTRELL WENT TO 99/2000,LABRADA 96
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Disgusted on June 22, 2016, 11:51:34 AM
this pic is so badass for so many reasons.

Yep those days are long gone and what a shame.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: mazrim on June 22, 2016, 12:21:46 PM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/eda98e2c03eda07059d6746e22aca415/tumblr_nvsqrkeXh01ut2zt9o1_1280.jpg)
Great pic!

Nubret killing it with style.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Slik on June 22, 2016, 07:07:02 PM
Samir n Robby r on my lifting belt. Autographs I mean.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Dokey111 on June 22, 2016, 07:17:22 PM
Nubret is what world champion bodybuilders used to look like  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 23, 2016, 02:41:32 AM
amazing how cartoony these guys physiques were at around the 200lbs mark.

goes to show that bigger does not equal better

And Samir was at best 5'6", so that's a lot of muscle he's carrying around on a relatively short body.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Danimal77 on June 23, 2016, 02:46:45 AM
He left around the time that Labrada did, right? Two smaller guys that just couldn't compete at that mid-late '90s level..

Labrada (5'3"-5'4") would have made Samir look like a giant. Here you see a pic of 5'2" Danny Padilla and 5'3"-5'4" Momo Makaway next to 5'6" Samir. You also have 5'5" and change Chris Dickerson and 5'6 3/4" Tom Platz and 5'6.5" Jonny Fuller there as well (all on the bottom row).

Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Nether Animal on June 23, 2016, 03:55:24 AM
Look, they all have full heads of hair!
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 23, 2016, 07:05:10 AM
jessup  had a great build as well
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Slik on June 23, 2016, 07:12:31 AM
Look, they all have full heads of hair!
blocky but powerful. Bb today look so stupid. (I know I sound like an old grandpa)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Fortress on June 23, 2016, 07:23:31 AM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/eda98e2c03eda07059d6746e22aca415/tumblr_nvsqrkeXh01ut2zt9o1_1280.jpg)

Good lord they look amazing.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Viking11 on June 23, 2016, 08:52:58 PM
Good lord they look amazing.
[/quote}
Right?? When do you see physiques like that?  Never...
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: dj181 on June 24, 2016, 01:33:38 AM
Good lord they look amazing.

yep, yep

i'd say that's a high anabolic low androgen look, higher dose of deca, primo, var, winny, lower dose of test, tren
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 24, 2016, 06:23:08 AM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/eda98e2c03eda07059d6746e22aca415/tumblr_nvsqrkeXh01ut2zt9o1_1280.jpg)

Wow!  They look more impressive with clothes on
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: mazrim on June 24, 2016, 06:46:16 AM
yep, yep

i'd say that's a high anabolic low androgen look, higher dose of deca, primo, var, winny, lower dose of test, tren
Nubret was known for loving his tren.
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Taffin on June 25, 2016, 02:13:13 AM
Samir still looking good for his age (although maybe needs to stop with the facial hair coloring as he's starting to channel Poirot a little...

(http://static2.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/zdjeciaSFD2/c78a3e88683044cf8db57ab869b63be6.jpg)
(http://thenewcomer.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/poirot.jpg)
Title: Re: Sammir and Mentzer ....
Post by: Nether Animal on June 26, 2016, 06:57:55 AM
Shredded in '82 and no team lean face.. only 186lb