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http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/live-with/13118-it-s-live-with-chris-aceto-4-pm-est-on-rxmuscle-com.html
Chris discusses being a Muslim early in the video
He has some cool Dan Duchaine stories
Chris said that the freakiest thing that he ever saw was Lou Ferrigno a few weeks out from the 1992 Mr O. Chris said that Lou should've competed at 330LB in 1992 (and Lou would've beaten Dorian)
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Lou overdieted in 92 a bit... but still looked good.
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Woh he had fantastic bodybuilding genetics
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Who cares what his religion is?
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/live-with/13118-it-s-live-with-chris-aceto-4-pm-est-on-rxmuscle-com.html
Chris discusses being a Muslim early in the video
He has some cool Dan Duchaine stories
Chris said that the freakiest thing that he ever saw was Lou Ferrigno a few weeks out from the 1992 Mr O. Chris said that Lou should've competed at 330LB in 1992 (and Lou would've beaten Dorian)
What is funny to me about this Lou at 330 looking incredible is, even if true, how much it shows that all these geniuses including their trainers really don't know shit when it comes to contest peaking. A good amount of it is simple luck involving how successfully body water is manipulated. This is why you have guys looking incredible in the gym in the 3 weeks leading up to the show. This is why you have random shows like the Frankfurt one where Nasser looked incredible.
If I could have stepped on stage looking like I looked when I came out of the tanning bed I would have placed a couple of places higher in several shows.
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What is funny to me about this Lou at 330 looking incredible is, even if true, how much it shows that all these geniuses including their trainers really don't know shit when it comes to contest peaking. A good amount of it is simple luck involving how successfully body water is manipulated. This is why you have guys looking incredible in the gym in the 3 weeks leading up to the show. This is why you have random shows like the Frankfurt one where Nasser looked incredible.
If I could have stepped on stage looking like I looked when I came out of the tanning bed I would have placed a couple of places higher in several shows.
Why don't you have blue stars?
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not going to listen but why ??? isn't he like... white? and reasonably intelligent
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A intelligent Caucasian has no excuse for being a filthy Moozlim.
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I thought Chris was a fag and being a fag is frowned upon in filthy Muslim religion?
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Like the others, he probably converted after being given a lecture by some friendly Muslim chap who told him a sugar coated and romanticized version of Islam.
It would be interesting to know how much knowledge, Aceto actually has on the religion he follows.
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/live-with/13118-it-s-live-with-chris-aceto-4-pm-est-on-rxmuscle-com.html
Chris discusses being a Muslim early in the video
He has some cool Dan Duchaine stories
Chris said that the freakiest thing that he ever saw was Lou Ferrigno a few weeks out from the 1992 Mr O. Chris said that Lou should've competed at 330LB in 1992 (and Lou would've beaten Dorian)
of course he is a muslim... that is why he can get Big Ramy to blow up
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either way if it's true then Asseato can go eff himself what a fking idiot
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It was mentioned years ago on getbig and I remember being surprised.
He was really pissed off at Dennis James' "camel crew" comment, maybe because
he felt it was a diss on muslims :D
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Muslim and third world immigration are often used interchangebly. It seems strange, although clever in hindsight, that the Religious angle has been so overused by the media, which of course serves geostrategic interests.
Nassor was also Muh-slim and I think few did care.
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of course he is a muslim... that is why he can get Big Ramy to blow up
;D
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He come across like the Steven Wright of bodybuilding. I was surprised he was religious at all..
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What does Sharia law say about steroids? Anyone?
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He's the president of the Islamic Society of Portland, Maine and has been for a while.
not going to listen but why ??? isn't he like... white? and reasonably intelligent
Not only is he white, but Aceto is an Italian name (funny side-note, it means vinegar in Italian lol).
When I first heard he was muslim I was pretty shocked as well. He comes off as very secular, never talks about religion, doesn't mention it anywhere, really. Which I actually respect. He believes what he believes and doesn't push it on others. What's even more amazing is he works with Ron Partlow, who constantly bashes islam (for good reason) on a podcast he does, and you never hear of any problems between him and Aceto in that regard. I know there are different denominations and extremes of islam (like christianity having catholics, anglicans, orthodox, protestants, etc...), so maybe he's part of the more "moderate"/quiet one?
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He's the president of the Islamic Society of Portland, Maine and has been for a while.
Not only is he white, but Aceto is an Italian name (funny side-note, it means vinegar in Italian lol).
When I first heard he was muslim I was pretty shocked as well. He comes off as very secular, never talks about religion, doesn't mention it anywhere, really. Which I actually respect. He believes what he believes and doesn't push it on others. What's even more amazing is he works with Ron Partlow, who constantly bashes islam (for good reason) on a podcast he does, and you never hear of any problems between him and Aceto in that regard. I know there are different denominations and extremes of islam (like christianity having catholics, anglicans, orthodox, protestants, etc...), so maybe he's part of the more "moderate"/quiet one?
Sunni and Shia
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Sunni and Shia
That's it? Damn... In that case I don't know... Maybe its just his style then, and he only follows the cherry picked stuff out of the quoran, like most christians do these days.
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Either way, he has faith in the existence of a sky wizard told to exist by a mass murdering rapist and pedophile. A vile individual who, if living today, would most likely be diagnosed as being extremely mentally ill.
One has to be either ignorant to the facts or frighteningly weak and stupid to pledge allegiance to such sheer madness.
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A intelligent Caucasian has no excuse for being a filthy Moozlim.
Fixed: An intelligent person has no excuse for being religious.
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Muslim and third world immigration are often used interchangebly. It seems strange, although clever in hindsight, that the Religious angle has been so overused by the media, which of course serves geostrategic interests.
Nassor was also Muh-slim and I think few did care.
Nasser's family was from Egypt so he was born into a Muslim family but studied and lived in Europe and learned to think for himself, eventually barely acknowledging his religion. Aceto was born into a Christian family, studied and lived in the United States and fell for a fairy tale about a false prophet. Big difference.
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Nasser's family was from Egypt so he was born into a Muslim family but studied and lived in Europe and learned to think for himself, eventually barely acknowledging his religion. Aceto was born into a Christian family, studied and lived in the United States and fell for a fairy tale about a false prophet. Big difference.
Western people who turn muslim are usually attention whores..
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He's the president of the Islamic Society of Portland, Maine and has been for a while.
Not only is he white, but Aceto is an Italian name (funny side-note, it means vinegar in Italian lol).
When I first heard he was muslim I was pretty shocked as well. He comes off as very secular, never talks about religion, doesn't mention it anywhere, really. Which I actually respect. He believes what he believes and doesn't push it on others. What's even more amazing is he works with Ron Partlow, who constantly bashes islam (for good reason) on a podcast he does, and you never hear of any problems between him and Aceto in that regard. I know there are different denominations and extremes of islam (like christianity having catholics, anglicans, orthodox, protestants, etc...), so maybe he's part of the more "moderate"/quiet one?
yeah well I can't take the guy seriously knowing this
it's just mental illness...
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Maybe his wife is/was when they met?
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Fixed: An intelligent person has no excuse for being religious.
Thank you. Of course, you're correct.
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maybe someone told him to be :-X
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Huh
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Sunni and Shia
Actually, their names are spelt 'Sunni and Cher'...
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Maybe his wife is/was when they met?
Laura Creavalle? (or am I showing my age here...)
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ha ha, thank you
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He's Muslim because he learned and experienced true Islam (Quran and Sunnah), and not some ridiculous western media propaganda about the religion.
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He's Muslim because he learned and experienced true Islam (Quran and Sunnah), and not some ridiculous western media propaganda about the religion.
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He's Muslim because he learned and experienced true Islam (Quran and Sunnah), and not some ridiculous western media propaganda about the religion.
Phags...
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Phags...
Ah, you thought I smiled approvingly.
Huh, dummy?
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He's Muslim because he learned and experienced true Islam (Quran and Sunnah), and not some ridiculous western media propaganda about the religion.
What a joke. Islam is wretched filth.
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Chris became a tea towel head, so he wouldnt get ISISd
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He's Muslim because he learned and experienced true Islam (Quran and Sunnah), and not some ridiculous western media propaganda about the religion.
What exactly is "true Islam"? From much of the research I've done, it actually seems worse than what the media says.
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He's Muslim because he learned and experienced true Islam (Quran and Sunnah), and not some ridiculous western media propaganda about the religion.
George farah lesbian ohh Lebanese christen is behind this post.since chris aceto took his client Ramy he is mad at him.
Any one follow these fairy tale religions is an idiot plain and simple.i Mean Muhammad went from his house to Aqsa mosque in Israel and from there to 7th heaven on a bird who,s face look like Donkey.stupidity at its prime.Only dumb ass arabs can buy into something like that...or Jesus who was clearly a bastard portrayed as born to virgin Marry.you religious guys are total fucked up and best part of it you will never know how fucked up you are.
Having said that some of Islamic laws make more sense socially than any other religion.like ban on alcohol,life for life,women inheritance,faaggootary as punishable crime and most important law which all religion push is not having kids outside wedlock.this protects families and up bringing of children.which is major problem now west facing.90% of west population turning into jesus.Chris is cool and intelligent guy and must know very well what to take and what to leave.that is why he never changed his name.
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Nasser's family was from Egypt so he was born into a Muslim family but studied and lived in Europe and learned to think for himself, eventually barely acknowledging his religion. Aceto was born into a Christian family, studied and lived in the United States and fell for a fairy tale about a false prophet. Big difference.
all "prophets" are false, you realize this, correct?
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Alex Jones has had a whole show on Acetony being a Qu'orangutan - we'll see how the IFBB Illumi-nato will react. Chris' most likely a Shriner too... sad days for America.
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Honestly, Islam is shaping up to be the one religion in the world. All of the other major religions -- Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, various taosims -- all have abandoned a doctrinaire approach for a wishy-washy "whatever you want" approach which invariably leads to ambivalence and agnosticism. The last hope for Christianity was a muscular Catholic doctrine, but the current shit-pope is destroying Catholicism for Catholics in the hope of pulling in a few non-Christians.
I am slowly retracting from my Catholicism and Christianity of my youth towards a form of ambivalent agnosticism, but if I hungered for a muscular approach to religion, the world's religions have left me but a single choice: Islam.
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Ah, you thought I smiled approvingly.
Huh, dummy?
Yes I did. Many apologies. I didn't think you were on that list. Forgive me.
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Honestly, Islam is shaping up to be the one religion in the world. All of the other major religions -- Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, various taosims -- all have abandoned a doctrinaire approach for a wishy-washy "whatever you want" approach which invariably leads to ambivalence and agnosticism. The last hope for Christianity was a muscular Catholic doctrine, but the current shit-pope is destroying Catholicism for Catholics in the hope of pulling in a few non-Christians.
I am slowly retracting from my Catholicism and Christianity of my youth towards a form of ambivalent agnosticism, but if I hungered for a muscular approach to religion, the world's religions have left me but a single choice: Islam.
kind of agree with AJ here, suprisingly. religion in general needs to be left in the dust and quick. if the common man wises up and, and only muslims fanatics remain, its much easier to outcast them, expose them, single them out, etc. But, as it stands now, its pretty hard to condemn one group, and the next your talking about noahs ark being real, lol. it takes the legitimacy of your complaints and throws them out the window. once we can get past this my sky man religion is better than your sky man religion, then the sooner the loons can be legimately isolated and contained. this my friends will never happen, but its a nice thought.
how any american or any countryman with a college education can be christian, muslim, jewish, etc. blows my fucking mind. sure, keep your family traditions like hannakuah or christmas for family time and all that, but people need to get a fucking grip. modern world is wayyy too advanced for this shit, its embarrasing.
shit as i near mid 30s, its almost impossible to make friends as i dont go to church and everyone i meet starts talking about their "prayers" after the third time hanging with them. i wanna be like "ok, dude, sorry, dont call me again"
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kind of agree with AJ here, suprisingly. religion in general needs to be left in the dust and quick. if the common man wises up and, and only muslims fanatics remain, its much easier to outcast them, expose them, single them out, etc. But, as it stands now, its pretty hard to condemn one group, and the next your talking about noahs ark being real, lol. it takes the legitimacy of your complaints and throws them out the window. once we can get past this my sky man religion is better than your sky man religion, then the sooner the loons can be legimately isolated and contained. this my friends will never happen, but its a nice thought.
how any american with a college education can be christian, muslim, jewish, etc. blows my fucking mind. sure, keep your family traditions like hannakuah or christmas for family time and all that, but people need to get a fucking grip. modern world is wayyy too advanced for this shit, its embarrasing.
You probably missed the bulk of my point, which wasn't anti-religion. I think that folks should be able to believe what they want, as reverently as they wish. The belief in a "Sky God" is the cornerstone of western civilization and the rule of law, so as archaic as you believe it is, it is the reason for everything that you see, from The Enlightenment forward.
My point is that all religions except Islam have abandoned their more fervent believers leaving only Islam as the One True Faith. "Radical" Christians, Jews and Hindus don't kill others at all. Only Islam.
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Maybe his wife is/was when they met?
That's what I was thinking.
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Islam is for idiots.
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Honestly, Islam is shaping up to be the one religion in the world. All of the other major religions -- Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, various taosims -- all have abandoned a doctrinaire approach for a wishy-washy "whatever you want" approach which invariably leads to ambivalence and agnosticism. The last hope for Christianity was a muscular Catholic doctrine, but the current shit-pope is destroying Catholicism for Catholics in the hope of pulling in a few non-Christians.
I am slowly retracting from my Catholicism and Christianity of my youth towards a form of ambivalent agnosticism, but if I hungered for a muscular approach to religion, the world's religions have left me but a single choice: Islam.
You'd be best looking at Eastern Orthodox Christianity if you want to be part of a more muscular version of the religion. Sedevacantism is probably the closest thing to that within the Catholic faith.
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Yes I did. Many apologies. I didn't think you were on that list. Forgive me.
As-salāmu ʿalaykum, my friend.
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Fixed: An intelligent person has no excuse for being religious.
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As-salāmu ʿalaykum, my friend.
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One could say that since Chris Aceto was Jay's guru, that he is partially responsible for the downfall of pro bodybuilding.
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One could say that since Chris Aceto was Jay's guru, that he is partially responsible for the downfall of pro bodybuilding.
The judges vote the way the judges vote
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The judges vote the way the judges vote
that is true, which is why I said "partially". The judges, competitors and gurus, and the public are all responsible.
But, the should lay mostly on the judges, Jay and Chris. Jay was probably the first Mr. O (since whenever) to have a subpar back. His upper body was smooth, up until 2009.
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To echo what aj said, the problem with islam is
that its adherents take it seriously. Unlike christianity which has been watered down to meaninglessness.
That's why muslims should be kept out of the west unless
we accept that they will change our societies, in my opinion in very negative ways. The leftist muslim-huggers
think everyone longs for secularism and muslims will become "just like us" in the west when exposed to our way of living. That's the mistake, a huge mistake.
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No one needs to believe in a sky god to extract wisdom from where it can be found.
Religion is a crutch of the weak and feeble mind.
And in the realm of mainstream religion, Islam is home to vileness unlike any other.
Words mean nothing. Action, and indeed history itself, tells the tale. No matter what a raghead preaches, his religion is filth, with proof of this littered all over the news and in the history books.
The Qu'ran is THE dictionary of hate speech and intolerance.
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To echo what aj said, the problem with islam is
that its adherents take it seriously. Unlike christianity which has been watered down to meaninglessness.
That's why muslims should be kept out of the west unless
we accept that they will change our societies, in my opinion in very negative ways. The leftist muslim-huggers
think everyone longs for secularism and muslims will become "just like us" in the west when exposed to our way of living. That's the mistake, a huge mistake.
Amazingly said. Thank you.
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I'd bet the house Aceto is a Crypto pretending to play the part of Muslim...
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Laura Creavalle? (or am I showing my age here...)
they got divorced 20 years ago he has a new wife and a few kids.
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they got divorced 20 years ago he has a new wife and a few kids.
New wife is black too..Chris likes dark meat. ;D
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No one needs to believe in a sky god to extract wisdom from where it can be found.
Religion is a crutch of the weak and feeble mind.
And in the realm of mainstream religion, Islam is home to vileness unlike any other.
Words mean nothing. Action, and indeed history itself, tells the tale. No matter what a raghead preaches, his religion is filth, with proof of this littered all over the news and in the history books.
The Qu'ran is THE dictionary of hate speech and intolerance.
What happens when we die?
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Can't believe such an intelligent guy like Chris A would be a true muslim.
It's a masquerade / display for the public.
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Sounds like a typical cuck what coverts for some gal's folks. Man the fuck up, ya spineless dummy.
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To echo what aj said, the problem with islam is
that its adherents take it seriously. Unlike christianity which has been watered down to meaninglessness.
That's why muslims should be kept out of the west unless
we accept that they will change our societies, in my opinion in very negative ways. The leftist muslim-huggers think everyone longs for secularism and muslims will become "just like us" in the west when exposed to our way of living. That's the mistake, a huge mistake.
I completely disagree. The muzzie lovers want us to "embrace diversity" and dream of a fantasy world where the population of every school and college is 20% white 20% Arab 20% Hispanic 20% Asian and 20% black.
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I completely disagree. The muzzie lovers want us to "embrace diversity" and dream of a fantasy world where the population of every school and college is 20% white 20% Arab 20% Hispanic 20% Asian and 20% black.
Leftists want diversity but they tend to be non-religious and would prefer all people to think like them.
I agree with VB in that the leftists hope that Muslims will secularize once they are exposed to modern living, science and different beliefs. However, it isn't working atm. If anything, the 2nd and 3rd generation of Muslims living in the west are more religious than their parents were.
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Why don't you have blue stars?
I haven't asked for them or submitted any proof that I've been in contests, I guess. Don't really care.
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What happens when we die?
We're dead. Our bodies decay. A few people might cry and then tell several humorous anecdotes about our time amongst the living. "Remember when he ...?!"
That's what happens. It's really all very anticlimactic.
Why do so many demand so much more? Why can't some accept that their lives aren't cosmically important?
And if there IS more ... than each one of us will find out in due time.
None of this changes how an individual should conduct himself while breathing. Be decent, pleasant to others (unless they're unpleasant to you) and don't add to the misery that comes with existence in this mortal coil.
Sky wizard's are for the scared, weak and arrogant (What?! I can't die!).
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We're dead. Our bodies decay. A few people might cry and then tell several humorous anecdotes about our time amongst the living. "Remember when he ...?!"
That's what happens. It's really all very anticlimactic.
Why do so many demand so much more? Why can't some accept that their lives aren't cosmically important?
And if there IS more ... than each one of us will find out in due time.
None of this changes how an individual should conduct himself while breathing. Be decent, pleasant to others (unless they're unpleasant to you) and don't add to the misery that comes with existence in this mortal coil.
Sky wizard's are for the scared, weak and arrogant (What?! I can't die!).
Do I belittle your choice not to believe? Nope. Everyone is scared of the unknown, whether or not they admit as much is their choice. Try being in the ocean and having something large bump into you. You don't know what it is but I can pretty much guaranty that you will be scared.
I do not demand more, I hope for and have faith that there is more. No one save the dead know what to expect and as I have always said, they're not talking.
"Sky wizards". Pffft! I don't force you to wear the same shoes as I nor do I make you wear any shoes at all. That choice is yours. If Christ behaved as did Mohammed, I would never try to follow Him (as pathetically) as I do. Life isn't an inquisition and I am not as those that would impose their will upon others. I will not mock Atheists because they may well be correct. Assholes I will mock. Muslims? Not of God. Nothing so evil as what they believe could be of God as Christ is of God.
Later.
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Do I belittle your choice not to believe? Nope. Everyone is scared of the unknown, whether or not they admit as much is their choice. Try being in the ocean and having something large bump into you. You don't know what it is but I can pretty much guaranty that you will be scared.
I do not demand more, I hope for and have faith that there is more. No one save the dead know what to expect and as I have always said, they're not talking.
"Sky wizards". Pffft! I don't force you to wear the same shoes as I nor do I make you wear any shoes at all. That choice is yours. If Christ behaved as did Mohammed, I would never try to follow Him (as pathetically) as I do. Life isn't an inquisition and I am not as those that would impose their will upon others. I will not mock Atheists because they may well be correct. Assholes I will mock. Muslims? Not of God. Nothing so evil as what they believe could be of God as Christ is of God.
Later.
How can the dead possibly "know" anything? And if they can, then why the f aren't they talking? Seems reasonable enough, considering the magic brain and all.
Wizardry has confusing rules.
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How can the dead possibly "know" anything? And if they can, then why the f aren't they talking? Seems reasonable enough, considering the magic brain and all.
Wizardry has confusing rules.
It is a play on words, i.e., a "dead men tell no tales" kind of thing. And no, this does not make me a pirate. Or a wizard. ;D
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We're dead. Our bodies decay. A few people might cry and then tell several humorous anecdotes about our time amongst the living. "Remember when he ...?!"
That's what happens. It's really all very anticlimactic.
Why do so many demand so much more? Why can't some accept that their lives aren't cosmically important?
And if there IS more ... than each one of us will find out in due time.
None of this changes how an individual should conduct himself while breathing. Be decent, pleasant to others (unless they're unpleasant to you) and don't add to the misery that comes with existence in this mortal coil.
Sky wizard's are for the scared, weak and arrogant (What?! I can't die!).
If there is no higher power, why should we conduct ourselves in a civil manner? There is no one to answer to.
Morality without a higher power is useless to me. What is good or bad? Man made revelations if nothing else.
Rape, pillage, cheat on your taxes etc etc if there is no grand accountability.
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If there is no higher power, why should we conduct ourselves in a civil manner? There is no one to answer to.
Morality without a higher power is useless to me. What is good or bad? Man made revelations if nothing else.
Rape, pillage, cheat on your taxes etc etc if there is no grand accountability.
Family, friends, society/police?
Conscience?
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Family, friends, society/police?
Conscience?
What binds us to family? Friends?
Do you see animal life forming lifelong bonds with their cousins and siblings? No.
Without an intangible feeling of connectivity between beings a family is just genetically similar beings from the same lineage. Nothing spiritual or special about that.
If there is no creator, and we are all on this planet by accident, love is not real. Love was not created from a Big Bang. It must be a placebo feeling, making people want to breed and nothing more.
The idea of a creator is very simple to me, much more simple to grasp than grand coincidence and nothing else.
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What binds us to family? Friends?
Do you see animal life forming lifelong bonds with their cousins and siblings? No.
Without an intangible feeling of connectivity between beings a family is just genetically similar beings from the same lineage. Nothing spiritual or special about that.
If there is no creator, and we are all on this planet by accident, love is not real. Love was not created from a Big Bang. It must be a placebo feeling, making people want to breed and nothing more.
The idea of a creator is very simple to me, much more simple to grasp than grand coincidence and nothing else.
Love can be explained, like all emotions, through evolution. Started out as a survival instinct, most likely. Keep in mind, science proffers a MUCH longer timeline than theology; "love" was probably inevitable.
And the more intelligent/social animals absolutely form bonds - look into chimpanzees/high primates and dolphins/orcas for reference. The creator idea is only simple when you don't consider it critically; none put forth so far make a damn bit of sense.
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Aceto a muslim
isn't Aceto a homosexual with a beard wife Laura Creavalle?
he will be stoned to death by his muslim brothers in shah allah
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If there is no higher power, why should we conduct ourselves in a civil manner? There is no one to answer to.
Morality without a higher power is useless to me. What is good or bad? Man made revelations if nothing else.
Rape, pillage, cheat on your taxes etc etc if there is no grand accountability.
Most people that commit crimes are god believing, the stats in prisons back it up. What stops others is the consequences of breaking laws. The rest are genuinely good and know it's self evident, they wouldn't want it done to themselves.
Maybe some people need a god to behave themselves. But then what does that really say about yourself, that you're inherently evil? If so, why would a god want to associate with you in the first place? I think we are better than that.
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Most people that commit crimes are god believing, the stats in prisons back it up. What stops others is the consequences of breaking laws. The rest are genuinely good and know it's self evident, they wouldn't want it done to themselves.
Maybe some people need a god to behave themselves. But then what does that really say about yourself, that you're inherently evil? If so, why would a god want to associate with you in the first place? I think we are better than that.
Well, Christian God expects this. He created a faulty product, read Genesis. Some free-willing chick ate a piece of fruit.
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Well, Christian God expects this. He created a faulty product, read Genesis. Some free-willing chick ate a piece of fruit.
Yeah I know that story very well. He puts this tree in the middle of the garden with a talking serpent, not instigating or taking any accountability. ;D
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Most people that commit crimes are god believing, the stats in prisons back it up. What stops others is the consequences of breaking laws. The rest are genuinely good and know it's self evident, they wouldn't want it done to themselves.
Maybe some people need a god to behave themselves. But then what does that really say about yourself, that you're inherently evil? If so, why would a god want to associate with you in the first place? I think we are better than that.
I was just inferring that good and evil are both man-made ideologies without a presence of a higher power.
Most people in prison that find themselves "all of the sudden" religious are finally sober and remorseful for their actions.
I don't think people are inherently evil, I do think they are mostly neutral.
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If there is no higher power, why should we conduct ourselves in a civil manner? There is no one to answer to.
Morality without a higher power is useless to me. What is good or bad? Man made revelations if nothing else.
Rape, pillage, cheat on your taxes etc etc if there is no grand accountability.
Decency is its own reward.
If you require a god to behave decently, than you're simply a garbage individual.
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Decency is its own reward.
If you require a god to behave decently, than you're simply a garbage individual.
I agree. I hold myself to my own personal standard. No one else's.
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Decency is its own reward.
If you require a god to behave decently, than you're simply a garbage individual.
No I get that. We are going in circles.
What gives someone the inner drive to be a decent person. If it was pure biological I assume the standard behavior would be to steal, cheat, kill etc. in the name of self advancement. On paper that makes the most sense. Giving the shirt off your back to a perfect stranger is the opposite of survival from a biological stance. What creates the urge to do the right thing?
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Most people that commit crimes are god believing, the stats in prisons back it up.
But are they religious at the time of committing the crime or do they become religious once in prison?
Prisons tend to have a strong evangelist movement within them.