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Do Hillary's supporters care?
House Benghazi report slams administration response to attacks
Published June 28, 2016
FoxNews.com
A damning report authored by the Republican-led House committee probing the Benghazi terror attacks faulted the Obama administration for a range of missteps before, during and after the fatal 2012 attacks – saying top administration officials huddled to craft their public response while military assets waited hours to deploy to Libya.
The report released Tuesday pointedly blamed a “rusty bureaucratic process” for the slow-moving response the night of the attack. The report said despite orders from President Obama and then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to deploy, the first military force did not do so until more than 13 hours after the attack started.
The report said one anti-terrorism security team known as the FAST unit sat waiting for three hours in Rota, Spain, as Marines changed “in and out of their uniforms four times,” and even debated whether they should carry personal weapons, according to one witness. All together, the report said, “it would take nearly 18 hours” for that team to move.
The report described a web of internal debates and hold-ups, including apparent State Department guidance that “Libya must agree to any deployment,” though Panetta would later say Libya approval was not necessary.
While various officials debated how to proceed, U.S. personnel were under attack at two sites in Benghazi.
In the end, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans -- foreign service officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Ty Woods and Glen Doherty -- were killed in the attacks.
CLICK TO READ THE REPORT.
In a stunning detail, the report said the security force that helped evacuate U.S. personnel from the so-called “annex” in the end – “likely saving over two dozen lives,” according to the report – was a unit known as Libyan Military Intelligence composed of former military officers under the Qaddafi regime, which the U.S. helped topple.
The CIA did not know that unit existed. “In other words, some of the very individuals the United States had helped remove from power during the Libyan revolution were the only Libyans that came to the assistance of the United States on the night of the Benghazi attacks,” the report said.
The committee's work itself was fiercely contested, with Democrats accusing Republican members of trying to politically harm presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time of the attacks.
Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., asked Americans to "read this report for themselves ... and reach their own conclusions."
At a press conference, Gowdy and other GOP lawmakers lamented that no forces were ordered to Benghazi.
“Nothing was ever coming to Benghazi,” Gowdy said.
Lawmakers contrasted the "heroism" of those on the ground with the discussions in Washington. Rep. Peter Roskam, R-Ill., described the D.C. attitude as "near fecklessness." He said, "They were more concerned about how they’re going to offend the Libyan government than how this rescue is going to take place.”
The findings about the military asset response the night of the attacks contrasted with the relatively robust internal debate over the public narrative regarding the attack – namely, claims that the attacks were sparked by an anti-Islam YouTube video.
Watch Benghazi Select Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., and committee member Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Ind., Tuesday at 6 p.m. ET on Fox News' “Special Report with Bret Baier.”
The committee report identified for the first time a White House meeting that was convened roughly three hours into the attack and included deputies to senior Cabinet members and Clinton.
Stevens was missing at the time. But the report found “much of the conversation focused on the video (which) is surprising given no direct link or solid evidence existed connecting the attacks in Benghazi and the video at the time.”
The report found that “five of the 10 action items from the rough notes of the 7:30 pm meeting reference the video.”
The report also showed that there were top-level calls to have the video removed from the Internet, before any of the forces that were ordered deployed “had actually moved.”
The report, meanwhile, found the video narrative was crafted in Washington by Obama administration appointees and reflected neither eyewitness nor real-time reports from the Americans under attack.
One U.S. agent at the American outpost in Benghazi, whose name was withheld for security reasons, told the committee he first heard “some kind of chanting.”
Then that sound was immediately followed by “explosions” and “gunfire, then roughly 70 people rushing into the compound with an assortment of “AK-47s, grenades, RPG’s … a couple of different assault rifles,” the agent said.
In addition, a senior watch officer at the State Department's diplomatic security command described the Sept. 11, 2012, strikes as "a full on attack against our compound.”
When asked whether he saw or heard a protest prior to the attacks, the officer replied, "zip, nothing, nada," according to the Republican majority report.
“None of the information coming directly from the agents on the ground in Benghazi during the attacks mentioned anything about a video or a protest. The firsthand accounts made their way to the office of the Secretary through multiple channels quickly,” the report concluded.
Five days later, then-United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice went on every national Sunday talk show. She told Fox News Sunday, “What sparked the recent violence was the airing on the Internet of a very hateful, very offensive video that has offended many people around the world.”
The report also said, “Security deficiencies plagued the Benghazi Mission compound in the lead-up to September 2012.”
Panetta told the committee “an intelligence failure” occurred, while former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell also acknowledged an intelligence failure.
The committee proposed 25 recommendations aimed at improving security for U.S. personnel overseas. Among them were: Figuring out who is in charge in such situations, holding joint training exercises, and improving communication.
The GOP report came after a report by the Democrats on the panel saying that security at the Benghazi, Libya facility was “woefully inadequate” but Clinton never personally denied any requests from diplomats for additional protection.
Democrats have long slammed the committee’s work as partisan, and Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon repeated that charge Tuesday.
“Far from honoring the four brave Americans who died, the Benghazi Committee has been a partisan sham since its start,” he tweeted.
State Department spokesman Mark Toner defended the department in a written statement issued shortly before the report’s formal release, while saying the “essential facts” surrounding the attacks have been known “for some time.”
“We have made great progress towards making our posts safer since 2012,” Toner said. “… Our implementation efforts include work to expand the corps of Diplomatic Security personnel, enhance interagency coordination to address threat information, expand the Marine Security Guard program, and accelerate projects to build and upgrade secure facilities.”
He said the department “cooperated extensively with the Select Committee,” providing over 50 current and former employees for interviews and over 100,000 pages of documents.
The report, though, said the department “withheld a number of documents from the Committee based on ‘executive branch confidentiality interests,’ an administration-constructed privilege not recognized by the Constitution.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/28/house-benghazi-report-slams-administration-response-to-attacks.html?intcmp=hpbt1
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They do not.
They will see there was a line that said that there was nothing the administration could do in regards to sending additional troops after the fact, and they will be happy with that response.
Ignoring anything that could have changed leading up to it.
Including not fucking arming Khadaffi's enemies in the first place.
Dicks.
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They do not.
They will see there was a line that said that there was nothing the administration could do in regards to sending additional troops after the fact, and they will be happy with that response.
Ignoring anything that could have changed leading up to it.
Including not fucking arming Khadaffi's enemies in the first place.
Dicks.
Sad truth.
Been meaning to watch 13 Hours. Have you seen it?
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Sad truth.
Been meaning to watch 13 Hours. Have you seen it?
I have not but its on my list. I am hoping this weekend.
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I have not but its on my list. I am hoping this weekend.
Same here.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-benghazi-cover-story-1467155750
Hillary lied - end of story
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probably based on some CIA talking points covering up a covert action.
it will take decades for this info to make it to the light of day
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Even rush limbaugh was "speculating" about benghazi being used to run guns to syrian rebels (isis?) Yesterday on his show around 2:15 pm
when Rush Lumbaugh is pushing this idea... we're at a pretty crazy point.
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There were seven previous investigations led mostly by Republicans in the Congress; this eight investigation adds nothing new. It lasted two years and wasted $7 million dollars. They have already admitted that it was concocted merely to drive down Clinton's poll numbers. That admission killed Kevin McCarthy's hopes of becoming House Speaker. Maybe we need a ninth investigation... led by Ken Starr perhaps. I hear he is available. ::)
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There were seven previous investigations led mostly by Republicans in the Congress; this eight investigation adds nothing new. It lasted two years and wasted $7 million dollars. They have already admitted that it was concocted merely to drive down Clinton's poll numbers. That admission killed Kevin McCarthy's hopes of becoming House Speaker. Maybe we need a ninth investigation... led by Ken Starr perhaps. I hear he is available. ::)
Bingo
I wonder why Beach Bunny is not aware of that
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Bingo
I wonder why Beach Bunny is not aware of that
Added nothing new because we know that C UNT and her pos islamic CNT Obama both lied and covered up from day 1.
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Added nothing new because we know that C UNT and her pos islamic CNT Obama both lied and covered up from day 1.
things that you imagine don't actually count
seems like we've gone over this concept a few times in the past
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things that you imagine don't actually count
seems like we've gone over this concept a few times in the past
She was busted in the hearing by Jordan about her lies - you know it everyone does.
You dont care because you are a partisan far left wing democrat
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If Beck and Rush are right - they were there arming syrian rebels (isis?), then I can see why they were a little unsure about sending in massive forces and putting it on front page news, right before an election.
I know, mccain and friends wanted to arm these dudes, and obama caved. Romeny would have beat his ass with it. And leaders don't care about sending 4 people to their death if it means they can keep a massive gun supply chain in place. Beck said it immediately -we were arming bad guys there. Rush even said it yesterday, which was surprising.
Repubs SHOULD be coming at obama for this - but I guess that doesn't benefit them politically ;)
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She was busted in the hearing by Jordan about her lies - you know it everyone does.
You dont care because you are a partisan far left wing democrat
what part of the most recent report references that
let me know and I'll check it out
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what part of the most recent report references that
let me know and I'll check it out
The video speaks for itself - as does the report - they blamed a video that had ZERO do to w anything.
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There were seven previous investigations led mostly by Republicans in the Congress; this eight investigation adds nothing new. It lasted two years and wasted $7 million dollars. They have already admitted that it was concocted merely to drive down Clinton's poll numbers. That admission killed Kevin McCarthy's hopes of becoming House Speaker. Maybe we need a ninth investigation... led by Ken Starr perhaps. I hear he is available. ::)
"They" didn't admit anything.
Isn't Ken Starr a tenured professor at Baylor?
And we certainly saw the email messages on display during these hearings that conclusively show Hillary lied to the American people. But her supporters don't care.
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"They" didn't admit anything.
Isn't Ken Starr a tenured professor at Baylor?
And we certainly saw the email messages on display during these hearings that conclusively show Hillary lied to the American people. But her supporters don't care.
Cult of Queen Hillary members are acting as pathetically slavish in their unquestioning loyalty and worship of her as that did Obama. Its shamfeul to see grown ass men acting like this for this witch.
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The video speaks for itself - as does the report - they blamed a video that had ZERO do to w anything.
So you're saying that the Republicans didn't bother to mention her alleged lies in their report?
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Well, now it is official. After years of effort and having spent more than $7,000,000 of taxpayer money this Republican dominated partisan panel of the US House of Representatives has come up with - nothing! It's Chair, Rep. Trey Gowdy (4th Congressional District S.C.) after years of appearing on national television foaming at the mouth like a rabid pit bull while disparaging Secretary of State Clinton has nothing new let alone explosive to show for his committee's efforts.
In 2014 Rep. Gowdy won re-election with 84% of the vote - his only opponent being the Libertarian candidate. Something is wrong with any district where a candidate wins by that margin without any serious challenger. I would like to say that this whole exercise has been a total failure and a fiscal disaster but that isn't totally true - at least for Rep. Gowdy. He has made Donald Trump's "short-list" for being the next United States Attorney General. That says it all about both of them.
--Fr. Bill
If you count the Ken Starr witch hunt, the GOP has wasted $100 million or so on trying to nail Secretary Clinton and her husband with something — anything. Considering the political nature of the inquisitions, shouldn't the RNC be picking up the tab?
--Lew Fournier
I think the point is why would one spend $7 million of other people's money on an investigation when multiple previous investigations already had been completed. The purpose of this "investigation" was not to learn the truth; it was to determine a different, more preferred "truth."
--Steve
In April 1983, radical Shiite suicide bombers blew up the US embassy in Beirut, killing 243. Reagan did nothing to prevent this attack, and his ultimate response to it and a later deadly attack on US Marines in Beirut was to quietly withdraw from Lebanon (he called it “redeploying offshore”). Democrats at the time controlled Congress but they didn’t have endless hearings on how Reagan failed our diplomats by not being prepared. Two years later he sold arms to Iran without Congressional approval.
--Deborah Re
A witch hunt from beginning to end. An outrageous misuse of the taxpayers' money to try to gain partisan advantage from a terrible tragedy. Speaker Ryan can sanctimoniously condemn House members for their sit-in in the wake of the Orlando tragedy as a "stunt," but doesn't blink an eye spending millions of our dollars chasing ghosts following the tragedy at Benghazi.
--Didier
Oh good, now they can focus all their energy on the email server. There is probably no other person in public life so thoroughly examined as Secretary Clinton. 25+ years of inquiries into various "scandals" and no firm evidence of intentional wrongdoing. Yes, she can be insular and sometimes her judgment can be questionable. It would be the same for every other person in the world; it's just not 24-hour news when it's not a Clinton.
--JellyBean
Maybe the Republicans should give more money to the State Department so State can do a better job protecting our brave people in dangerous lands. They had no problems wasting $6M on this witch hunt.
--billdaub
According to MSNBC, Congressman Trey Gowdy assured us that congressional Democrats would "be shocked when they read the report, if they do bother to read the report." Yes, all Americans can be shocked that Congressional Republicans have added to the tens of millions of dollars spent "investigating" the Clinton's only to find fault with the Department of Defense's response to the attack on the Benghazi compound. Otherwise, this Committee's key finds wholly echo the other congressional committees that also led investigations into the Benhazi attacks.
Nonetheless, Hillary Clinton will be attacked from the Right for failing to be aggressive enough to protect U.S. interests abroad, while she is simultaneously attacked from the Left for being a conservative warmonger.
--JEG
And so, after a State Department investigation and seven subsequent investigations, with no substantive evidence in their 75,000 page document of wrongdoing by Secretary Clinton, Trey Gowdy and his ugly compatriots in Congress and their odious Candidate, continue to suggest conspiracy where none exists.
Left with only scrambled eggs on their faces, Republicans continue to prove the unfortunate Kevin McCarthy correct in his statement that these hearings were all about driving down Secretary Clinton's poll numbers.
Despite the 7.1 million spent in a circus created of, by and for the same GOP that defunded our embassies and our diplomatic missions just before Benghazi, Republicans continue to campaign on the alleged "crimes" of Secretary Clinton because they are a Party completely bankrupt of ideas.
--marylouisemarkle
As the GOP committee members grandstand in front of me now, spinning their fictional narrative of a reckless, feckless, and uncaring administration, somehow hell bent on "lying to the American people" over this tragedy, the facts speak for themselves.
First, the hypocrisy of a GOP who lied the United States into a two trillion dollar war, destabilizing an entire region and unleashing the current generation of terror on the world, to sit here now complaining of the current administration "misleading" the American people is beyond contempt.
But, more germane to the present day, the fact they have released this report now, far in advance of an election they hoped to sway with it, speaks volumes about the paucity of its substance and content. In short - nothing to see here but wasted tax payer dollars by craven, angry, losers.
Nice work, team GOP.
--Erich
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Cult of Queen Hillary members are acting as pathetically slavish in their unquestioning loyalty and worship of her as that did Obama. Its shamfeul to see grown ass men acting like this for this witch.
True. It is a cult-like following.
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By the comments its easy to see who has read the reports to an extent, seen the interviews and the movie and really followed what happened. Then there are those getting the HILbots to speak for them. This report has new info. It details who did what and what should have happened. Its odd that now Europe has an established QRF to deal with something like this. If there was no problem, DOD would never have had to adjust right? Further....Hil is in charge...she is the SEC STATE. Her people died...she should have resigned...period end of story. That's what leaders do. She's a political bitch form day one..I hope her cough catches up with her soon.
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Point to the part where this nonsense deals with Hillary lying to the families and blaming a video that had zero to do with anything?
Well, now it is official. After years of effort and having spent more than $7,000,000 of taxpayer money this Republican dominated partisan panel of the US House of Representatives has come up with - nothing! It's Chair, Rep. Trey Gowdy (4th Congressional District S.C.) after years of appearing on national television foaming at the mouth like a rabid pit bull while disparaging Secretary of State Clinton has nothing new let alone explosive to show for his committee's efforts.
In 2014 Rep. Gowdy won re-election with 84% of the vote - his only opponent being the Libertarian candidate. Something is wrong with any district where a candidate wins by that margin without any serious challenger. I would like to say that this whole exercise has been a total failure and a fiscal disaster but that isn't totally true - at least for Rep. Gowdy. He has made Donald Trump's "short-list" for being the next United States Attorney General. That says it all about both of them.
--Fr. Bill
If you count the Ken Starr witch hunt, the GOP has wasted $100 million or so on trying to nail Secretary Clinton and her husband with something — anything. Considering the political nature of the inquisitions, shouldn't the RNC be picking up the tab?
--Lew Fournier
I think the point is why would one spend $7 million of other people's money on an investigation when multiple previous investigations already had been completed. The purpose of this "investigation" was not to learn the truth; it was to determine a different, more preferred "truth."
--Steve
In April 1983, radical Shiite suicide bombers blew up the US embassy in Beirut, killing 243. Reagan did nothing to prevent this attack, and his ultimate response to it and a later deadly attack on US Marines in Beirut was to quietly withdraw from Lebanon (he called it “redeploying offshore”). Democrats at the time controlled Congress but they didn’t have endless hearings on how Reagan failed our diplomats by not being prepared. Two years later he sold arms to Iran without Congressional approval.
--Deborah Re
A witch hunt from beginning to end. An outrageous misuse of the taxpayers' money to try to gain partisan advantage from a terrible tragedy. Speaker Ryan can sanctimoniously condemn House members for their sit-in in the wake of the Orlando tragedy as a "stunt," but doesn't blink an eye spending millions of our dollars chasing ghosts following the tragedy at Benghazi.
--Didier
Oh good, now they can focus all their energy on the email server. There is probably no other person in public life so thoroughly examined as Secretary Clinton. 25+ years of inquiries into various "scandals" and no firm evidence of intentional wrongdoing. Yes, she can be insular and sometimes her judgment can be questionable. It would be the same for every other person in the world; it's just not 24-hour news when it's not a Clinton.
--JellyBean
Maybe the Republicans should give more money to the State Department so State can do a better job protecting our brave people in dangerous lands. They had no problems wasting $6M on this witch hunt.
--billdaub
According to MSNBC, Congressman Trey Gowdy assured us that congressional Democrats would "be shocked when they read the report, if they do bother to read the report." Yes, all Americans can be shocked that Congressional Republicans have added to the tens of millions of dollars spent "investigating" the Clinton's only to find fault with the Department of Defense's response to the attack on the Benghazi compound. Otherwise, this Committee's key finds wholly echo the other congressional committees that also led investigations into the Benhazi attacks.
Nonetheless, Hillary Clinton will be attacked from the Right for failing to be aggressive enough to protect U.S. interests abroad, while she is simultaneously attacked from the Left for being a conservative warmonger.
--JEG
And so, after a State Department investigation and seven subsequent investigations, with no substantive evidence in their 75,000 page document of wrongdoing by Secretary Clinton, Trey Gowdy and his ugly compatriots in Congress and their odious Candidate, continue to suggest conspiracy where none exists.
Left with only scrambled eggs on their faces, Republicans continue to prove the unfortunate Kevin McCarthy correct in his statement that these hearings were all about driving down Secretary Clinton's poll numbers.
Despite the 7.1 million spent in a circus created of, by and for the same GOP that defunded our embassies and our diplomatic missions just before Benghazi, Republicans continue to campaign on the alleged "crimes" of Secretary Clinton because they are a Party completely bankrupt of ideas.
--marylouisemarkle
As the GOP committee members grandstand in front of me now, spinning their fictional narrative of a reckless, feckless, and uncaring administration, somehow hell bent on "lying to the American people" over this tragedy, the facts speak for themselves.
First, the hypocrisy of a GOP who lied the United States into a two trillion dollar war, destabilizing an entire region and unleashing the current generation of terror on the world, to sit here now complaining of the current administration "misleading" the American people is beyond contempt.
But, more germane to the present day, the fact they have released this report now, far in advance of an election they hoped to sway with it, speaks volumes about the paucity of its substance and content. In short - nothing to see here but wasted tax payer dollars by craven, angry, losers.
Nice work, team GOP.
--Erich
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Further....Hil is in charge...she is the SEC STATE. Her people died...she should have resigned...period end of story.
Unless repubs come at obama equally as hard as they're coming at obama - they're political dickheads just using those 4 deaths for their own gains.
Obama at hearings = they actually give a shit about those who died.
Hilary alone + bragging about how they're hurting her poll numbers = they don't care.
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Unless repubs come at obama equally as hard as they're coming at obama - they're political dickheads just using those 4 deaths for their own gains.
Obama at hearings = they actually give a shit about those who died.
Hilary alone + bragging about how they're hurting her poll numbers = they don't care.
You are starting to catch on. ;)
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Unless repubs come at obama equally as hard as they're coming at obama - they're political dickheads just using those 4 deaths for their own gains.
Obama at hearings = they actually give a shit about those who died.
Hilary alone + bragging about how they're hurting her poll numbers = they don't care.
All this may be, and I agree with you completely for a change. That being said, in spite of their motive, Hillary Is guilty here
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All this may be, and I agree with you completely for a change. That being said, in spite of their motive, Hillary Is guilty here
yep, but I don't tink she could have stopped it if she had wanted.
obama's saying let it happen. whoever is controlling the shady shit they have doing there, is saying don't go in.
she's complicit, sure, but was it her call? No.
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Benghazi conspiracy theorists turn on Trey Gowdy
by Dana Milbank
Et tu, Trey?
A day after the House Benghazi committee released a final report that left Hillary Clinton relatively unscathed, conservative activists — the conspiracy-minded ones who pressured House leaders to appoint the committee in the first place — rounded on Chairman Trey Gowdy for failing to deliver the goods.
“To say I was disappointed would be an understatement,” retired Adm. James “Ace” Lyons complained at a meeting Wednesday afternoon of the Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi, a coalition of far-right foreign- policy types. “Chairman Gowdy is not a stenographer. . . . He was there to make findings and conclusions. He had the information. He copped out, which is consistent that we’ve seen with all our congressional leadership.”
Retired Gen. Thomas McInerney agreed that “the American people want to know from a group that spent almost two years on it what the conclusions are. That’s what we pay you for, Mr. Gowdy.”
Charles Woods, the father of Ty Woods, one of the four Americans killed in Benghazi, lamented that “I really don’t have closure as far as who made the decision not to rescue.” And Roger Aronoff of Accuracy in Media, which convened the Citizens’ Commission at the National Press Club, complained that “they put a bunch of transcripts in there, interviews, but they didn’t weave it all together.”
There were murmurs of agreement from participants when Lyons said of Gowdy: “Regretfully, I don’t think he measured up yesterday.”
A woman in the crowd floated a new Benghazi conspiracy. “Has someone in the GOP leadership gotten their fingers involved in watering down some of this to benefit Secretary Clinton?” she asked.
Nobody rebutted this idea.
Herein lies a lesson for Republicans who are perpetually trying to appease the far right: It’s a fool’s errand. They went to the tea party — and now they’re taking Donald Trump to the prom. Likewise, then-House Speaker John Boehner named the Benghazi committee because activists were dissatisfied that seven previous congressional investigations had failed to uncover major scandal material. Now an eighth has produced more of the same — and the agitators are as agitated as ever.
Two GOP members of Gowdy’s own committee were dissatisfied enough to write their own narrative drawing more sweeping accusations against Clinton and President Obama. Gowdy must feel the need for some cover: A day after delivering what was supposed to be the definitive account of Benghazi, his committee called in another witness for an interview. Democrats pointed out that the interviewee had just removed from his Facebook page the hashtag #IfYouVoteForHillaryYouAreBeyondStupid.
The Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi, which held Wednesday’s event, is not the most reputable outlet. It dropped “former CIA officer” Wayne Simmons as one of its 11 members after the former Fox News commentator, who it turns out had no military or intelligence experience, pleaded guilty to fraud charges this spring.
Even without Simmons’s creativity, the group managed to produce a 73-page Benghazi report this week full of inventive accusations. They found “troubling evidence that Obama and Clinton were deeply and knowingly involved in running guns to al-Qaeda in Libya,” as well as “a clear case of official U.S. government submission to the Islamic Law on slander.”
They determined that the Obama administration “switched sides in what was then called the Global War on Terror” and “benefited this country’s worst enemies.” They wrote that Clinton herself blocked U.S. military forces from attempting a rescue mission, and they attributed the decision to oust Libya’s Moammar Gaddafi in part to financial interests of the Clinton Foundation.
They judged that Obama — one speaker referred to him as “Barack Hussein Soetero Obama” — had “an ideological commitment” to expanding the Muslim Brotherhood. They even gave longtime Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal credit for the administration’s “support for the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood-led al Qaeda militias.” In one elaborate theory, they tied those guarding the U.S. facilities in Benghazi both to Blumenthal and to the wife of a former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
They even faulted Ambassador Chris Stevens, who died in Benghazi, saying he “rather romanticized the Libyan jihadis.”
“We see a field of smoking guns,” Aronoff said.
Clearly. But the Benghazi committee didn’t. Gowdy “notably refrained from assigning blame or demanding accountability,” Clare Lopez, of the Center for Security Policy and an adviser to the Ted Cruz presidential campaign, told the gathering. “He also did not draw a connection between the dots.”
Why?
“I think he had his reasons — political,” McInerney said. He speculated that congressional leadership had approved “black operations” to run weapons from Benghazi to Islamic State forces in Syria. “That’s the dirty little secret that nobody wants out,” he said.
Aha! So Gowdy himself is in on the Benghazi conspiracy.
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After 8 investigations......
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Granted that smelly shoe is prolly corrupt as any of them, but after 8 full blown investigations we still have whiny conservatives claiming shes guilty and the republican party unable to show anything tangible?
Is this now destined for the CT land of tin foil hats?
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After 8 investigations......
::)
Granted that smelly shoe is prolly corrupt as any of them, but after 8 full blown investigations we still have whiny conservatives claiming shes guilty and the republican party unable to show anything tangible?
Is this now destined for the CT land of tin foil hats?
She lied over the bodies and was exposed doing so in the hearing by Jim Jordan - did you miss that?
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She lied over the bodies and was exposed doing so in the hearing by Jim Jordan - did you miss that?
So?
Anything going to become of it or not? Was it a criminal act? Or was she caught in a lie and that's it?
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So?
Anything going to become of it or not? Was it a criminal act? Or was she caught in a lie and that's it?
Hey if your cool with it - awesome - no wonder we are stuck w such shitbags running for office.
Lying over the bodies at the funeral
A complete failure at State Department showing rank incompetence all around
Creating a phoney story about a fake video to cover for that Kenyan terorrists' re-election campaign and failures in Libya
Going overseas and to the UN and crying about people talking bad about Islam in Pakistan, etc.
Yeah no biggie. Lets talk about Trump's failed steaks and vodka ::)
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Hey if your cool with it - awesome - no wonder we are stuck w such shitbags running for office.
Lying over the bodies at the funeral
A complete failure at State Department showing rank incompetence all around
Creating a phoney story about a fake video to cover for that Kenyan terorrists' re-election campaign and failures in Libya
Going overseas and to the UN and crying about people talking bad about Islam in Pakistan, etc.
Yeah no biggie. Lets talk about Trump's failed steaks and vodka ::)
And Airlines
And board Games
Casinos (how do you go broke running a Casino.... for Christs Sake
MAgazine
Trump Mortgage
Gotrump.com
Trumps Communication Company
Trump tower Tampa
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Hey if your cool with it - awesome - no wonder we are stuck w such shitbags running for office.
Lying over the bodies at the funeral
A complete failure at State Department showing rank incompetence all around
Creating a phoney story about a fake video to cover for that Kenyan terorrists' re-election campaign and failures in Libya
Going overseas and to the UN and crying about people talking bad about Islam in Pakistan, etc.
Yeah no biggie. Lets talk about Trump's failed steaks and vodka ::)
I didn't say i was ok with it.
But if its only her lying, no criminal act, after 8 investigations, 7 million dollars and all you have to show for it is whiny conservatives who again will likely lose in the next presidential election what's the point????
The GOP once again is serving up a turd, a loud one this time, and again all conservatives seem to do is whine like little bitches and we got 4 more years of OB and now looks like we will get 4 years of Hillary. But you guys are sure good at crying and starting new investigations instead showing some real leadership.
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I didn't say i was ok with it.
But if its only her lying, no criminal act, after 8 investigations, 7 million dollars and all you have to show for it is whiny conservatives who again will likely lose in the next presidential election what's the point????
The GOP once again is serving up a turd, a loud one this time, and again all conservatives seem to do is whine like little bitches and we got 4 more years of OB and now looks like we will get 4 years of Hillary. But you guys are sure good at crying and starting new investigations instead showing some real leadership.
As long as you have Obama in office and his turds running DOJ and the FBI , nothing is going to happen. Clinton should have been indicted already over the email server issue but instead has her disgusting husband chilling w the AG.
If it were you or I - we would already be convicted.
Just because she was not arrested does not mean she didnt commit crimes or do a lot of terrible shit - its that those charged with overseeing these matters are all equally corrupt and conflicted.
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I think it's because nobody can honestly say Hilary caused benghazi while obama was 'out of the loop'.
Obama is the prez, and he was briefed every moment of the way, he just as he had final say on bin laden, he had final say here.
at the VERY least, obama's name should be the first one spoken every time about benghazi, because it was ultimately his decision whether to act or not. He decided not to, and it cost 4 americans their lives.
yes, hilary *also* didn't do anything, but neither did those below her, or those above her (obama). I'm fine with charging hilary for it - but they better charge obama too. Just picking the one underling you *happen* to be running against in 2016 is pure bullshit. Put obama AND hilary's name on the charges, and indict their asses tomorrow. Picking and choosing which parts of the food chain to blame based upon who you have to face in elections is bullshit.
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I think it's because nobody can honestly say Hilary caused benghazi while obama was 'out of the loop'.
Obama is the prez, and he was briefed every moment of the way, he just as he had final say on bin laden, he had final say here.
at the VERY least, obama's name should be the first one spoken every time about benghazi, because it was ultimately his decision whether to act or not. He decided not to, and it cost 4 americans their lives.
yes, hilary *also* didn't do anything, but neither did those below her, or those above her (obama). I'm fine with charging hilary for it - but they better charge obama too. Just picking the one underling you *happen* to be running against in 2016 is pure bullshit. Put obama AND hilary's name on the charges, and indict their asses tomorrow. Picking and choosing which parts of the food chain to blame based upon who you have to face in elections is bullshit.
I dont blame them for the attack occurring - muslim goatfucking sand-nigs jihadi filth are gonna do their thing - what i blame them for is the lies and cover up afterwards, especially to the families at the funerals and thereafter.
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I dont blame them for the attack occurring - muslim goatfucking sand-nigs jihadi filth are gonna do their thing - what i blame them for is the lies and cover up afterwards, especially to the families at the funerals and thereafter.
I'm the opposite. I *DO* blame them for not acting in the 8+ hours they were under attack, when we had forces about an hour a way, ready to come in shooting.
afterwards, if they want to say it's because of a video, and not because it was an isis gun shop used to undermine syria, well, it's a slippery slope there. unless we're ready to reveal ALL of the shady shit the nation does... and we're not.
They could have saved them, if they wanted to blow their cover. They chose to let them die instead.
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I'm the opposite. I *DO* blame them for not acting in the 8+ hours they were under attack, when we had forces about an hour a way, ready to come in shooting.
afterwards, if they want to say it's because of a video, and not because it was an isis gun shop used to undermine syria, well, it's a slippery slope there. unless we're ready to reveal ALL of the shady shit the nation does... and we're not.
They could have saved them, if they wanted to blow their cover. They chose to let them die instead.
Obama chose to hang out w Jay Z and skip the intel briefing. Think about that for a second.
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And liberals please about the $$$$ - Obama spent 2 BILLION on the failed ObamaCare website and 750k on african ball washing not to mention the millions to doll up that beast he is married to so as to make her presentable to the public.
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Obama chose to hang out w Jay Z and skip the intel briefing. Think about that for a second.
oh i know that part - he let the attack happen while he chilled at a fundraiser. agreed he should be charged for it. totally let it happen.
i'm pissed over that. I get that govts are going to lie about motivations when theyre hiding what was actually happening at that location. I mean, "secret isis gunrunning base attacked by locals" is a horrible headline that obama didn't want, 2 weeks before election.
charge obama, and i'm fine with charging hilary too. Just going after the underling cheapens the whole thing.
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oh i know that part - he let the attack happen while he chilled at a fundraiser. agreed he should be charged for it. totally let it happen.
i'm pissed over that. I get that govts are going to lie about motivations when theyre hiding what was actually happening at that location. I mean, "secret isis gunrunning base attacked by locals" is a horrible headline that obama didn't want, 2 weeks before election.
charge obama, and i'm fine with charging hilary too. Just going after the underling cheapens the whole thing.
Remember liberals frothing at the mouth over Valerie Plame and Scooter Libby? But this is purely ok to them. GMAFB
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I didn't say i was ok with it.
But if its only her lying, no criminal act, after 8 investigations, 7 million dollars and all you have to show for it is whiny conservatives who again will likely lose in the next presidential election what's the point????
The GOP once again is serving up a turd, a loud one this time, and again all conservatives seem to do is whine like little bitches and we got 4 more years of OB and now looks like we will get 4 years of Hillary. But you guys are sure good at crying and starting new investigations instead showing some real leadership.
"All you have to show for it"? Telling the truth is a pretty important quality for the POTUS.
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Telling the truth is a pretty important quality for the POTUS.
what fcking world are you living in?
particularly when the shit going on at that location may not be something our nation wanted known.
You are butthurt the leader of our nation didn't own some shady shit we had going on? WTF, man?
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8 investigations and all the Repubs have to show for it is tears of impotent rage.
Oh well.... maybe the 9th will work out in their favor.
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it is sooooo great to have Soul Crusher back with us again!
I can't wait till the day after the election.
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it is sooooo great to have Soul Crusher back with us again!
I can't wait till the day after the election.
He won't be surprised. None of us will.
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what fcking world are you living in?
particularly when the shit going on at that location may not be something our nation wanted known.
You are butthurt the leader of our nation didn't own some shady shit we had going on? WTF, man?
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it is sooooo great to have Soul Crusher back with us again!
I can't wait till the day after the election.
Why? Hooking up w Straw and Vince and GaybAY for a gangbang?
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watching you explode.....again.
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watching you explode.....again.
I thought he committed suicide after Meg Whitman lost her CA Governor's race to Jerry Brown. ::)
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he went away...and things slowed down on the site.
but, like herpes, you cant keep him away for ever.
bless his heart.
it's fun again.