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Title: An interesting ideology
Post by: DanielPaul on July 01, 2016, 09:08:31 PM
"They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans." Swordfish.   Was this not the same rational that led to Hiroshima?  Honestly speaking , isn't this the only way to stop radical Islam and no one wants to admit it?  Thoughts on this?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 01, 2016, 09:10:38 PM
You Are Correct!
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Fortress on July 01, 2016, 11:13:32 PM
Love it.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Jovo on July 02, 2016, 02:18:34 AM
no one has the balls to rule with an iron hammer these days
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 02:28:56 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 02:36:30 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.


Was about to post similar response...
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: rocket on July 02, 2016, 02:40:24 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

Well, to be fair, they do practice a savage way of life that fucks a lot of people in their lands over.

Not to mention that due to their religious delusions, they are clearly not content to mind their own business any more than we are.

The idealogy presented in swordfish is functionally illogical.  The current level of terrorism is perpetrated by so few individuals that it doesn't matter what you do, these fuckwits will ALWAYS have the ability to get away with the odd act.

They aren't powerful, at all.  This is all they can manage.  Drips and drabs of savagery that is virtually impossible to fully mitigate.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SuperTed on July 02, 2016, 03:08:00 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

As much as I despise Western foreign policy, radical Islam would have affected the West sooner or later unless the West believed in isolationism and strict migration controls.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 03:14:14 AM
Well, to be fair, they do practice a savage way of life that fucks a lot of people in their lands over.

Not to mention that due to their religious delusions, they are clearly not content to mind their own business any more than we are.

The idealogy presented in swordfish is functionally illogical.  The current level of terrorism is perpetrated by so few individuals that it doesn't matter what you do, these fuckwits will ALWAYS have the ability to get away with the odd act.

They aren't powerful, at all.  This is all they can manage.  Drips and drabs of savagery that is virtually impossible to fully mitigate.

what they do in their own backyard is their business, its been like that for thousands of years, its not unusual to them.

And yes, they are content to mind their own business, they stay in their own backyards, they dont come across to the West to invade foreign lands, can you remember when an arab nation declared war on a western nation?

We all know they dont have to power to inflict any real damage, but the West invading their lands and dropping bombs on women and children is what allows they radicals an excuse to do what they do.
I have said it before, there were no radical muslims until the West created them by its actions.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: jon cole on July 02, 2016, 03:19:49 AM
Just my two cent but in Syria and Irak, for example, isis stronghole deserves a nuclear warhead.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 03:21:31 AM
Just my two cent but in Syria and Irak, for example, isis stronghole deserves a nuclear warhead.
And one for the good old USA , because without that warmongering nation the world would be a much better place.
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Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 03:29:25 AM
As much as I despise Western foreign policy, radical Islam would have affected the West sooner or later unless the West believed in isolationism and strict migration controls.

They would have more or less stayed where they were and carried on beheading and stoning happily ever after if we never stuck our noses in..

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 03:31:56 AM
They would have more or less stayed where they were and carried on beheading and stoning happily ever after if we never stuck our noses in..


as they have for thousands of years.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SuperTed on July 02, 2016, 03:50:56 AM
They would have more or less stayed where they were and carried on beheading and stoning happily ever after if we never stuck our noses in..



Well, if they stayed were they were, there wouldn't be any Muslims beyond the Arab peninsula. There is a reason why Muslims are the majority in the Indian sub-continent, in North Africa and in the Levant. It's because they don't believe in "staying where they are". Islam is a proselytizing religion. Therefore, it believes in spreading, not staying put.

The only thing that prevented Europe from being conquered in the past, was that the Europeans were engulfed in their own religious fundamentalism.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 04:09:20 AM
Well, if they stayed were they were, there wouldn't be any Muslims beyond the Arab peninsula. There is a reason why Muslims are the majority in the Indian sub-continent, in North Africa and in the Levant. It's because they don't believe in "staying where they are". Islam is a proselytizing religion. Therefore, it believes in spreading, not staying put.

The only thing that prevented Europe from being conquered in the past, was that the Europeans were engulfed in their own religious fundamentalism.


I'm in no way a muslim sympathiser but your talking rubbish, your point about Islam spreading happend over centuries as all our continents evolved, the only reason they are in our country is because we invited them and or created wars to unsettle them
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Royalty on July 02, 2016, 04:21:36 AM

I'm in no way a muslim sympathiser but your talking rubbish, your point about Islam spreading happend over centuries as all our continents evolved, the only reason they are in our country is because we invited them and or created wars to unsettle them

I disagree with this. I think that they came to west because they were jealous of our technology... They wanted to make a better life for themselves; but they had to leave their countries to do that.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
I disagree with this. I think that they came to west because they were jealous of our technology... They wanted to make a better life for themselves; but they had to leave their countries to do that.

So they came here to destroy our way of life to make a better life for themselves????

If they wanted to make a better life for themselves they would come in peace as many muslims have.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SuperTed on July 02, 2016, 04:58:52 AM

I'm in no way a muslim sympathiser but your talking rubbish, your point about Islam spreading happend over centuries as all our continents evolved, the only reason they are in our country is because we invited them and or created wars to unsettle them

I actually agree with what you've said but I just pointed out that Islam, historically, is a religion which makes no apologizes that a global caliphate is it's "end goal".

I'm not defending Western foreign policy. America's foreign policy has been disastrous and continues to be. I'm also suspicious towards concepts such as Zionism which I feel create more problems than solve. Even now when it comes to IS and Syria, the Western nations refusal to support Assad in this conflict is ridiculous. The OP regarding "nuking them" is just retarded and is only supported by simpletons.

Taking in large amounts of Muslim migrants while simultaneously blowing up their homelands isn't a good move. Which is why I believe that both Western involvement in the Middle East and Muslim migration to Western nations needs to be curbed in order to build a better world for everyone.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 05:17:17 AM
I disagree with this. I think that they came to west because they were jealous of our technology... They wanted to make a better life for themselves; but they had to leave their countries to do that.


They came to UK because we invited them, from Pakistan mainly...
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 05:29:18 AM
I actually agree with what you've said but I just pointed out that Islam, historically, is a religion which makes no apologizes that a global caliphate is it's "end goal".

I'm not defending Western foreign policy. America's foreign policy has been disastrous and continues to be. I'm also suspicious towards concepts such as Zionism which I feel create more problems than solve. Even now when it comes to IS and Syria, the Western nations refusal to support Assad in this conflict is ridiculous. The OP regarding "nuking them" is just retarded and is only supported by simpletons.

Taking in large amounts of Muslim migrants while simultaneously blowing up their homelands isn't a good move. Which is why I believe that both Western involvement in the Middle East and Muslim migration to Western nations needs to be curbed in order to build a better world for everyone.


They might very well want a muslim world, where we all behead each other etc.. But in reality most people just want to get on with there day to day lives and have no time for nonsensical things like religion, of the muzzies I know none of them pray 7 times a day etc, just like us Christians only ever go to church for funerals and weddings.

I do also accept that they are not real Muslims, as real Muslims agree with total extremism, as practised by horrible bastards in the desert

I do agree that importing them from war torn countries while were still plotting and fucking them up is a bad idea

Likewise not supporting assad from the start, just like not supporting ghaddaffi , just like over throwing sadam , just like blindly supporting isreal is the real root cause of all this
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: liberalismo on July 02, 2016, 05:48:42 AM
That mentality is an old world mentality that might have worked in WW2 or WW1 but that's because there was a set country and a known enemy with territory and a conventional war model.

With Terrorism if you bomb a civilian airport, bomb a city, etc. You will just create 100x more terrorists. It would be like China bombing JFK airport because some American terrorists who pledged no allegiance to any nation attacked Chinese people.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: markofan on July 02, 2016, 06:52:40 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

TRUTH
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dj181 on July 02, 2016, 06:54:29 AM
Isreal kicked egypts ass in bout 7 days back in '67  8)
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: funk51 on July 02, 2016, 06:59:41 AM
get ready for world war 111 , the war to end all wars.... and leading the charge will be the so-called angry patriot................. ........................ ........................ ........................ .......from a bunker hidden far beneath the earth.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Never1AShow on July 02, 2016, 07:14:28 AM
No matter what it would eventually be a threat.  Weaker countries always trying to become stronger or better.  Eventually someone like Iran wants a nuke, if just to defend themselves from their neighbors or impose their corrupt rulers will on the people.  Human nature.

All of this was covered by Arnold in Pumping Iron when discussing the wolf on the hill.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: bigmc on July 02, 2016, 07:20:52 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

so if we pull out and leave them to it

we should send all the extremists over here home right?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 08:17:45 AM
so if we pull out and leave them to it

we should send all the extremists over here home right?
anyone who walks the streets proclaiming death to the west have no business here, Im pretty sure if someone was over there saying death to Islam they wouldn't be there very long.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: bigmc on July 02, 2016, 08:34:51 AM
anyone who walks the streets proclaiming death to the west have no business here, Im pretty sure if someone was over there saying death to Islam they wouldn't be there very long.

i agree

i agree with the rest too

we should have left them too it

none of our business

if they didnt have oil no one would give a fuck
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 08:41:10 AM
i agree

i agree with the rest too

we should have left them too it

none of our business

if they didnt have oil no one would give a fuck
there are atrocities going on all over the world, we dont care about them because theres nothing in it for us.
The West created Terrorists, and TBH I think the powers that be see the bombing of a few civilians as an acceptable price to pay to keep our interests going in the Middle east.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: bigmc on July 02, 2016, 08:42:13 AM
there are atrocities going on all over the world, we dont care about them because theres nothing in it for us.
The West created Terrorists, and TBH I think the powers that be see the bombing of a few civilians as an acceptable price to pay to keep our interests going in the Middle east.

they are all cu nts

every one

we are run by fools

fucking everyone's shit up for a few dollars more
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 02, 2016, 08:43:01 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

Maybe we should just say "pretty please" and ask these Neanderthal savages nicely to leave us and our religious freedoms alone....

I'm sure the entire Middle East will become good neighbors to Israel overnight.

And where exactly is the location of the "backyard" of radical Islam?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 08:47:40 AM
Maybe we should just say "pretty please" and ask these Neanderthal savages nicely to leave us and our religious freedoms alone....

I'm sure the entire Middle East will become good neighbors to Israel overnight.

And where exactly is the location of the "backyard" of radical Islam?

yes, we should ask nicely , in fact we should fucking apologise for what we have done over the last 20 years
Maybe we shouldn't have created the "State of Israel" in the first place, again, US intervention fucking things up.
The backyard is the middle east, what the fuck business is it of the USA and the UK that some people on the other side of the world dont get on?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
A Dead Muslim Is A Good Muslim.

It is a "religion" that practices human sacrifice to their filthy, bloodthirsty, "god" allah.

Get it through your numbskulls, it is them against us, and "Us" means all non-muslims!

It is muslim doctrine, that calls all non-muslims infidels, that are to be converted or murdered for allah. They started this war on humanity, as soon as the ignorance called islam was codified, and set out to conquer the world.

So I repeat: A Dead Muslim Is A Good Muslim, if we want to survive.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
A Dead Muslim Is A Good Muslim.

It is a "religion" that practices human sacrifice to their filthy, bloodthirsty, "god" allah.

Get it through your numbskulls, it is them against us, and "Us" means all non-muslims!

It is muslim doctrine, that calls all non-muslims infidels, that are to be converted or murdered for allah. They started this war on humanity, as soon as the ignorance called islam was codified, and set out to conquer the world.

So I repeat: A Dead Muslim Is A Good Muslim, if we want to survive.

That has to be a troll post, no ones that dumb in real life.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 02, 2016, 09:09:24 AM
yes, we should ask nicely , in fact we should fucking apologise for what we have done over the last 20 years
Maybe we shouldn't have created the "State of Israel" in the first place, again, US intervention fucking things up.
The backyard is the middle east, what the fuck business is it of the USA and the UK that some people on the other side of the world dont get on?

U.S. intervention? Always easiest to blame America because the rest of the world are spineless cowards that the Muslim savages will soon overrun.

Hmmm....yet the Muslim Brotherhood was formed in the 1920's expressly to use militant Islam to express through terrorism their bitter hatred for Western ideas, including capitalism, individualism, and consumerism. Radical/militant Islam was founded to reject the West and much that it has to offer (with the exception of weapons, medicines, and other useful technologies) and its singular purpose is to implement a strict interpretation of the Koran (Islam's holy book) and shari'a (Islamic law). America, as radical Muslims see it, is the primary impediment to building an Islamic world order.

This is a religious war, not two nations at war. It has been fought for centuries and thinking any type of dialogue or discussion will change the thinking of people stuck in the Stone Age is naive.

These fucking people only understand violence. So an "eye for an eye" isn't enough. If the nations radical Islam are attacking arent willing to go "a body for an eye" we will continue to see more brazen and violent terrorist attacks committed upon the innocent people who live here.

And it will be a cold fucking day in hell when I apologize to Muslim scum and let them set up their pedo fucking Stone Age religion in my backyard

 
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 09:13:26 AM
U.S. intervention? Always easiest to blame America because the rest of the world are spineless cowards that the Muslim savages will soon overrun.

Hmmm....yet the Muslim Brotherhood was formed in the 1920's expressly to use militant Islam to express through terrorism their bitter hatred for Western ideas, including capitalism, individualism, and consumerism. Radical/militant Islam was founded to reject the West and much that it has to offer (with the exception of weapons, medicines, and other useful technologies) and its singular purpose is to implement a strict interpretation of the Koran (Islam's holy book) and shari'a (Islamic law). America, as radical Muslims see it, is the primary impediment to building an Islamic world order.

This is a religious war, not two nations at war. It has been fought for centuries and thinking any type of dialogue or discussion will change the thinking of people stuck in the Stone Age is naive.

These fucking people only understand violence. So an "eye for an eye" isn't enough. If the nations radical Islam are attacking arent willing to go "a body for an eye" we will continue to see more brazen and violent terrorist attacks committed upon the innocent people who live here.

And it will be a cold fucking day in hell when I apologize to Muslim scum and let them set up their pedo fucking Stone Age religion in my backyard

 

Yes it has, in the Middle East, where it would have stayed if we hadnt gone in all guns blazing.

I hope you dont think the USA is actually against the Radical islamists, after all they created them, armed them and taught them how to fight.
Radical islam is a creation of the USA to maintain a foothold in the Middle East, without instability we would have no reason to be there.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 09:21:58 AM
That has to be a troll post, no ones that dumb in real life.

That was the truth. What you posted was dumb as it gets in real life. You blame radical islam on USA policy, when the USA has only been around for a little over 200 years, and radical islam has been around since the 600s AD, with their self avowed plan for world domination by islam. No matter what the rest of the world did, or did not do to them, their goals are the same: muslim terrorism against the whole world.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 02, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
Yes it has, in the Middle East, where it would have stayed if we hadnt gone in all guns blazing.

I hope you dont think the USA is actually against the Radical islamists, after all they created them, armed them and taught them how to fight.
Radical islam is a creation of the USA to maintain a foothold in the Middle East, without instability we would have no reason to be there.

You've confused the support of fundamentalist Islamic regimes against soviet expansion after the Cold War, with creating radical Islam.

All nations will support nationalistic movements that align with their own national interests, nothing new there. And yes, the US and the U.K. gave arms to the militaristic arms of the fundamentalist groups, but to say they "created" radical Islam is foolish.

Radical Islam dates back to the 7th century and the Kharijites.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 09:32:35 AM
That was the truth. What you posted was dumb as it gets in real life. You blame radical islam on USA policy, when the USA has only been around for a little over 200 years, and radical islam has been around since the 600s AD, with their self avowed plan for world domination by islam. No matter what the rest of the world did, or did not do to them, their goals are the same: muslim terrorism against the whole world.

Radical islam attacking the West.

You say they have been around since 600 AD?
Taking their fucking time with world domination aren't they?

Can you give me a list of countries they have attacked that dont have interests in the Middle east?

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
Radical islam attacking the West.

You say they have been around since 600 AD?
Taking their fucking time with world domination aren't they?

Can you give me a list of countries they have attacked that dont have interests in the Middle east?



Sure: Persia, Spain, Greece, Turkey, Ariana (now called Afganistan after the muslim invasion), Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Russia, China, and the USA.

That's the short list. Thanks for asking, you dope!
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SuperTed on July 02, 2016, 10:20:11 AM

They might very well want a muslim world, where we all behead each other etc.. But in reality most people just want to get on with there day to day lives and have no time for nonsensical things like religion, of the muzzies I know none of them pray 7 times a day etc, just like us Christians only ever go to church for funerals and weddings.

I think you're making the mistake that many do when they compare Islam to Christianity.
The average Muslim is not as lapsed in their faith as the average Western Christian. If they were, we would not have countless of their adherents willing to commit acts of violence and die for it.

Muslims tend to take their religion very seriously even if many don't follow all the required tenants. Many of them are as religious as Christian Europeans were several centuries ago. That itself is a frightening thought - that large communities with a medieval mindset are living in 21st century Britain.

As the Muslim population grows in the UK, the fundamentalist Salafi movement grows with it. I'm concerned that as Muslim numbers continue to expand, they will become increasingly cliquish and start to develop a "groupthink" mentality which will veer more towards Islamic literalism (Bi-la kaifa) than Islamic modernism.

Do I think that the UK will eventually see Muslims forcibly enforcing Sharia nationwide across the streets? No.
However, I do see the UK becoming increasingly fragmented and divided as a society.
Nations are created by those within it sharing similar values, ideas and identity. If these similarities evaporate, than a nation may not stay united for long.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
Sure: Persia, Spain, Greece, Turkey, Ariana (now called Afganistan after the muslim invasion), Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Russia, China, and the USA.

That's the short list. Thanks for asking, you dope!


Something tells me you count from one to potatoe :P
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 10:32:01 AM

Something tells me you count from one to potatoe :P

Something tells me you can't count at all.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: HonestBob on July 02, 2016, 10:52:23 AM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

That's a half truth.

The British were occupying Muslim lands for generations and this wasn't happening.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 10:56:38 AM
Something tells me you can't count at all.


Please refer to your list you fucking moron...
That's a half truth.

The British were occupying Muslim lands for generations and this wasn't happening.

We were a lot cleverer in the imperial days...
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 10:59:37 AM

Please refer to your list you fucking moron...
We were a lot cleverer in the imperial days...

Please refer to the history of islam, you fucking moron! And, yeah we were a lot cleverer in the imperial days, as idiots such as you had no say so in foreign policy.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: obsidian on July 02, 2016, 11:02:25 AM
"They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans." Swordfish.   Was this not the same rational that led to Hiroshima?  Honestly speaking , isn't this the only way to stop radical Islam and no one wants to admit it?  Thoughts on this?
I agree, however these terrorists are created by globalists and elite. They paid mercenaries to fight Assad in Syria. Then they told Merkel to open Germany and Europe's borders and flood them with young male refugees invaders. And then when Europeans become unhappy and voiced their concerns on Social Media they told Zuckerberg to sensor their speech.

The terrorists are created by treasonous Western Globalists and then allowed to enter and flood Western Countries.

We need to make it unthinkable for Globalists to commit treason against their own societies in their thirst for power and wealth. How, by an Ultimatum:

Cease social engineering operations and the Globalist Agenda or your bloodlines will be wiped out. Every last one of you cockroaches. There should be no time limit on this Ultimatum. It should be multi generational and could last 500-1000 years. If enough damage was wrecked on Western Society by these Globalist scum the Vendetta will only be fulfilled once all bloodlines have been exterminated completely down to the last offspring.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: HonestBob on July 02, 2016, 11:05:00 AM
Please refer to the history of islam, you fucking moron! And, yeah we were a lot cleverer in the imperial days, as idiots such as you had no say so in foreign policy.

Actually it is our domestic policy where we went wrong, not so much foreign policy.

And he is from the North so he is only to blame for voting for the wrong Party as part of the class war that some people still live by. I doubt he is the type to have supported mass immigration from third world countries.

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: obsidian on July 02, 2016, 11:06:43 AM
they are all cu nts

every one

we are run by fools that should be impaled

fucking everyone's shit up for a few dollars more
Fixed
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 11:16:23 AM
Please refer to the history of islam, you fucking moron! And, yeah we were a lot cleverer in the imperial days, as idiots such as you had no say so in foreign policy.


Ha asked for a list of countries who the muslims have attacked who dont have dealings in the middle east..

Not going through the whole moronic list but you have USA, not sure if serious?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 11:22:29 AM

Ha asked for a list of countries who the muslims have attacked who dont have dealings in the middle east..

Not going through the whole moronic list but you have USA, not sure if serious?

His list showed we attacked islam in the early 1800s. Not true! We counter attacked. That's because islam attacked our shipping in the Mediterranean Sea. Islam always attacks non-muslims, because it is part of their faith, that doing so is righteous. That why we have to kill everyone of the filthy muslim animals, for the sake of humanity.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 11:26:23 AM
His list showed we attacked islam in the early 1800s. Not true! We counter attacked. That's because islam attacked our shipping in the Mediterranean Sea. Islam always attacks non-muslims, because it is part of their faith, that doing so is righteous. That why we have to kill everyone of the filthy muslim animals, for the sake of humanity.


Your bringing up century old disputes, I suppose we never invaded the heathens countries during the crusades either, it was all tit for tat.

Lets keep it within the last century at least...
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 11:29:04 AM

Your bringing up century old disputes, I suppose we never invaded the heathens countries during the crusades either, it was all tit for tat.

Lets keep it within the last century at least...

That's why you are stupid. You won't take into account the violent, savage nature of islam. Their religion orders them to kill non-muslim! Nothing else matters. Kill them first, or they will kill you.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 02, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
best way to reduce terror is to stop participating in it

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Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
That's why you are stupid. You won't take into account the violent, savage nature of islam. Their religion orders them to kill non-muslim! Nothing else matters. Kill them first, or they will kill you.



Just as I suspected, full potatoe..
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 11:34:36 AM



Just as I suspected, full potatoe..

In other words you have no knowledge about the subject. Grow a brain and get back to us.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 02, 2016, 12:02:48 PM

Your bringing up century old disputes, I suppose we never invaded the heathens countries during the crusades either, it was all tit for tat.

Lets keep it within the last century at least...

You do realize that after Mohammed and Islam arrived, the Muslims invaded Christian lands in the Middle East and persecuted Christians for their religion? The papal forces that fought the first crusades were to protect Christians and their land against Muslim invaders.

You try to make it sound like the muzzies were sitting around minding their own business and Christians invaded them for no reason.

For Muslims the prophet Mohammed mamdated that people who did not convert were to be killed.....right from day one.....so why is that so hard for some people to comprehend?

Fuck Obama and the other political fools who keep trying to convince the public this is a religion of peace. And fuck the other side of the political aisle that always need to have a bogeyman to keep the masses riled up.

But in 10-15 years from now, when sharia law is declared in London, and generation neckbeard thinks it is cute, open minded, and politically correct.....you will see your traditional UK way of life end.

These people only understand and respond to violence. The days of kowtowing to them or negotiating with them are LONG over.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 12:31:23 PM
Sure: Persia, Spain, Greece, Turkey, Ariana (now called Afganistan after the muslim invasion), Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Russia, China, and the USA.

That's the short list. Thanks for asking, you dope!

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/11/12/who-has-contributed-what-in-the-coalition-against-the-islamic-state/

Read that and try again.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 02, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
also, the best way to fight terror is to sign up for military service

no need to waste time typing on online message boards

NOW is the time to make a real difference!

http://www.goarmy.com/

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Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: headhuntersix on July 02, 2016, 12:59:35 PM
there was no radical Islam affecting the West until the West went in their backyard sticking its fucking nose in its business and occupying its lands.

You are a fucking idiot......did u miss the last 1200-1300 years of history. How far West did the Muslims get...Spain, gates of Vienna.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 01:25:17 PM
You are a fucking idiot......did u miss the last 1200-1300 years of history. How far West did the Muslims get...Spain, gates of Vienna.

You are talking ancient history

The only threat from ISLAM now is a few fuckwits blowing themselves up and the rest of ISLAM disagree with what they are doing, there are no Muslim armies ravaging the lands.

The radical muslims of ISIS dont even see other Muslims as their allies FFS.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: DanielPaul on July 02, 2016, 01:46:24 PM
You are talking ancient history

The only threat from ISLAM now is a few fuckwits blowing themselves up and the rest of ISLAM disagree with what they are doing, there are no Muslim armies ravaging the lands.

The radical muslims of ISIS dont even see other Muslims as their allies FFS.
Hello Ahkmeed how are you?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SF1900 on July 02, 2016, 01:53:52 PM
also, the best way to fight terror is to sign up for military service

no need to waste time typing on online message boards

NOW is the time to make a real difference!

http://www.goarmy.com/

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9ee2b0e1815fdcca23d53594275de496238594e2/c=12-0-1738-2300&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/02/03//1391447881000-AFP-US-MILITARY-RECRUITING-POSTER.jpg)

lol at getbiggers signing up for the military haha lol. Most of them hold their blankies at night.  :D :D

The closest they will ever come to fighting terrorism is typing angry rants on getbig and thinking it helps.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 01:55:51 PM
also, the best way to fight terror is to sign up for military service

no need to waste time typing on online message boards

NOW is the time to make a real difference!

http://www.goarmy.com/

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9ee2b0e1815fdcca23d53594275de496238594e2/c=12-0-1738-2300&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/02/03//1391447881000-AFP-US-MILITARY-RECRUITING-POSTER.jpg)

the best way is to get the troops out and mind your own fucking business.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: io856 on July 02, 2016, 01:55:57 PM
Radical Islam?

How about Islamic Fundamentalism

Christian Fundamentalism is about following the exact word of the bible.

Is it not then Islamic Fundamentalism to follow the exact word of the Qu'ran?

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 02, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
In other words you have no knowledge about the subject. Grow a brain and get back to us.

You want to go over your list again Einstein?

This is going off topic, how far are we going to go back here, how about keeping it recent...

Be there is correct, they posed no threat until we poked our noses in the only "terrorism" was against Israel, or the IRA over here, there wasn't a muslim problem until the last couple of decades, and that's the point that's been made

I cant see an argument otherwise....
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 02:04:44 PM
Radical Islam?

How about Islamic Fundamentalism

Christian Fundamentalism is about following the exact word of the bible.

Is it not then Islamic Fundamentalism to follow the exact word of the Qu'ran?

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."

so, how many of the 1.6 billion muslims in the world follow the Koran to the letter?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: chaos on July 02, 2016, 02:05:19 PM
Lol @ muzzie sympathizers.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 02, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
lol at getbiggers signing up for the military haha lol. Most of them hold their blankies at night.  :D :D

The closest they will ever come to fighting terrorism is typing angry rants on getbig and thinking it helps.  :D :D :D

at least 5 fellows here declared a desire for action. some calling for the nuclear solution!

hey guys! when will you be reporting for duty?

this needs to be resolved ASAP

 ???

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 02, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
lol at getbiggers signing up for the military haha lol. Most of them hold their blankies at night.  :D :D

The closest they will ever come to fighting terrorism is typing angry rants on getbig and thinking it helps.  :D :D :D

In which branch of the Armed Forces did you serve during your long and distinguished military career?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: io856 on July 02, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
so, how many of the 1.6 billion muslims in the world follow the Koran to the letter?
About 15-25% hold "radical" beliefs

That wasn't my point you moron.

It was a reclassification of wanting to kill non believers as fundamental beliefs. There has been no revisionism in Islam at all. The core manifesto is a 632CE text. That text calls for the murder of non believers.
A good muslim will kill non believers, a good christian will not have sex before marriage. Do they all adhere to the fundamental text, no absolutely not.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SF1900 on July 02, 2016, 03:00:31 PM
at least 5 fellows here declared a desire for action. some calling for the nuclear solution!

hey guys! when will you be reporting for duty?

this needs to be resolved ASAP

 ???



I think a few getbiggers just signed up.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 03:03:39 PM
About 15-25% hold "radical" beliefs

That wasn't my point you moron.

It was a reclassification of wanting to kill non believers as fundamental beliefs. There has been no revisionism in Islam at all. The core manifesto is a 632CE text. That text calls for the murder of non believers.
A good muslim will kill non believers, a good christian will not have sex before marriage. Do they all adhere to the fundamental text, no absolutely not.

then my friend there are very few good muslims....
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: io856 on July 02, 2016, 03:15:12 PM
then my friend there are very few good muslims....
Ah man, calling me your friend makes me feel bad for calling you a moron  :-\
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: chaos on July 02, 2016, 03:24:58 PM
Ah man, calling me your friend makes me feel bad for calling you a moron  :-\
Don't
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 02, 2016, 03:31:02 PM
Ah man, calling me your friend makes me feel bad for calling you a moron  :-\
Dont worry, it wasnt my first time..
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 02, 2016, 04:21:11 PM
I think a few getbiggers just signed up.

I must have missed your answer the first time.

In which branch of the Armed Forces did you serve during your long and distinguished military career?

Or maybe you find terrorist attacks on innocent people funny and I'm just missing the fucking humor in that?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 02, 2016, 06:31:03 PM
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/11/12/who-has-contributed-what-in-the-coalition-against-the-islamic-state/

Read that and try again.

Hey shit head: islam has one objective, global domination. That's why they should be exterminated.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: HTexan on July 03, 2016, 09:35:39 AM
I must have missed your answer the first time.

In which branch of the Armed Forces did you serve during your long and distinguished military career?

Or maybe you find terrorist attacks on innocent people funny and I'm just missing the fucking humor in that?
what branch did you serve in?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Hey shit head: islam has one objective, global domination. That's why they should be exterminated.
The USA seems to have global domination in mind as well.

Isnt Islam taking a while with this world domination?
Do they have any timescales?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 03, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
And one for the good old USA , because without that warmongering nation the world would be a much better place.

Not saying there's not some truth in that long list, but skimming over it, there are many things in there where we were provoked. I'm in no way dismissing Americas role in the moozies spreading out and terrorizing the West, but check that list twice Santa. 
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
The USA seems to have global domination in mind as well.

Isnt Islam taking a while with this world domination?
Do they have any timescales?

The USA is about independence. We waste a lot of time and money on inferior, pretend countries. We have no intention of taking them over, as they'd only cost the taxpayers more money if we "conquered" them.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 10:18:07 AM
The USA is about independence. We waste a lot of time and money on inferior, pretend countries. We have no intention of taking them over, as they'd only cost the taxpayers more money if we "conquered" them.
what about the muslim world domination plan, any ideas when its planned for?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 10:25:23 AM
what about the muslim world domination plan, any ideas when its planned for?

There is no time limit. It's their ultimate goal. They want to end the world of darkness, and replace it with a world of light, that will happen when every infidel is killed, or converted to islam. That's their goal.

It would help the real world if dopes such as you studied the plans of our enemies, and instituted actions, to destroy our enemies. A dead muslim is a good muslim.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2016, 10:29:35 AM
There is no time limit. It's their ultimate goal. They want to end the world of darkness, and replace it with a world of light, that will happen when every infidel is killed, or converted to islam. That's their goal.

It would help the real world if dopes such as you studied the plans of our enemies, and instituted actions, to destroy our enemies. A dead muslim is a good muslim.



Your a proper corny fucker, I can imagine you as the type to tuck his T-shirt into his jeans...
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 03, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
what branch did you serve in?

Let's have SF1900 answer the question first.

You sit tight White Knight, your boyfriend will be along soon.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 10:34:04 AM


Your a proper corny fucker, I can imagine you as the type to tuck his T-shirt into his jeans...

Because fat fucks such as you can't tuck your t-shirt into your jeans, without looking even more bulbous.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 10:35:00 AM
There is no time limit. It's their ultimate goal. They want to end the world of darkness, and replace it with a world of light, that will happen when every infidel is killed, or converted to islam. That's their goal.

It would help the real world if dopes such as you studied the plans of our enemies, and instituted actions, to destroy our enemies. A dead muslim is a good muslim.

Branch Warrens ultimate goal is to win the Olympia.

What are you doing to destroy Muslims?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
Branch Warrens ultimate goal is to win the Olympia.

What are you doing to destroy Muslims?

Nothing that I could report here without being arrested by libtard traitors.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 10:37:35 AM
Nothing that I could report here without being arrested by libtard traitors.

So its fuck all.

Posting hatred on websites doesnt constitute overthrowing islam.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2016, 10:37:55 AM
Because fat fucks such as you can't tuck your t-shirt into your jeans, without looking even more bulbous.


I'm quite lean and one of the bigger guys around here as it happens, only men from the land that style forgot would even dream of doing it..
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 11:02:24 AM

Posting hatred on websites doesnt constitute overthrowing islam.

Never said it did. Telling the truth about islam isn't hatred, it just reality. One that you refuse to face, so you name call those who are able to see reality
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 11:05:21 AM

I'm quite lean and one of the bigger guys around here as it happens, only men from the land that style forgot would even dream of doing it..

Oh, you're a dedicated follower of fashion. How queer!
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Fortress on July 03, 2016, 11:17:40 AM
As I always say, everywhere Islam goes, chaos and misery follows. The best course of action would be to absolutely not have anything to do with Muslim lands or, indeed, Muslims.

Theirs is a culture of a warring and violently intolerant ideology.

Islam is enemy to everything NOT Islam. To know Islam is to know this very basic fact.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2016, 11:19:08 AM
Oh, you're a dedicated follower of fashion. How queer!

You'd never find a British bloke wearing sandals with socks, tucking t shirts into jeans etc, they would have been remorselessly bullied at school and learned valuable lessons
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
You'd never find a British bloke wearing sandals with socks, tucking t shirts into jeans etc, they would have been remorselessly bullied at school and learned valuable lessons

British bloke = queer.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SF1900 on July 03, 2016, 11:27:47 AM
Branch Warrens ultimate goal is to win the Olympia.

What are you doing to destroy Muslims?

One day he may.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2014/2014mr-olympia-preview-graphics-3.jpg)
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2016, 11:36:34 AM
British bloke = queer.


How I pictor you ....
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 11:45:03 AM

How I pictor you ....

Your imagining me as your type. You lose.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
As I always say, everywhere Islam goes, chaos and misery follows. The best course of action would be to absolutely not have anything to do with Muslim lands or, indeed, Muslims.

Theirs is a culture of a warring and violently intolerant ideology.

Islam is enemy to everything NOT Islam. To know Islam is to know this very basic fact.

A muslim guy has the corner shop near us, he always seems happy enough.
His shop is pretty well stocked and conveniently laid out as well.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 12:44:21 PM
A muslim guy has the corner shop near us, he always seems happy enough.
His shop is pretty well stocked and conveniently laid out as well.

Really? Now ask your attendant to shut off your computer, so he can feed and bathe you.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 12:45:50 PM
Really? Now ask your attendant to shut off your computer, so he can feed and bathe you.
Insults, when a man has nothing left.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 12:59:13 PM
Insults, when a man has nothing left.

Insults? I was merely noting your obvious lack of mental abilities.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 03, 2016, 01:05:53 PM
"They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans." Swordfish.   Was this not the same rational that led to Hiroshima?  Honestly speaking , isn't this the only way to stop radical Islam and no one wants to admit it?  Thoughts on this?

Plus we are all guilty of Isamophobia, never the term for "westernphobia". They are immune to such criticism. 
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2016, 01:16:57 PM
Insults? I was merely noting your obvious lack of mental abilities.

I'm amazed you find the time to post inbtween eating 10k of cals from meat alone  ::)
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 03, 2016, 01:18:48 PM
the original post is an explicit call to carry out terrorism

the guys who agree with this seem obsessed with Islam

doesn't take a genius to connect the dots here

I suspect we may have a few radical islamists in the house

 :o  
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 01:20:39 PM
I'm amazed you find the time to post inbtween eating 10k of cals from meat alone  ::)

You seem baffled by reality, a whole lot.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
Seems that way doesn't it.... Love to see a pic of a physique built with 10k of cals from meat..
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Fortress on July 03, 2016, 02:38:04 PM
A muslim guy has the corner shop near us, he always seems happy enough.
His shop is pretty well stocked and conveniently laid out as well.

Don't be an idiot.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 03, 2016, 02:58:03 PM
Don't be an idiot.
If you read the post I responded to it was a perfectly acceptable response.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Erik C on July 03, 2016, 03:04:08 PM
If you read the post I responded to it was a perfectly acceptable response.

No. He's Right. You're A Idiot!
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 04, 2016, 12:49:06 AM
No. He's Right. You're A Idiot!
You have already been dismissed as a fuckwit, no coming back from that.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 03:22:20 AM
what about the muslim world domination plan, any ideas when its planned for?

Islamic Supremacists have vision for the world. They advocate a restoration of the Caliphate.
No one on the Caliphate curve is moderate. Some on the Caliphate curve are just more patient.

Islamic Supremacist organizations like ISIS can be graded on the “Caliphate curve”. The Caliphate curve is based on how quickly an Islamic organization wants to achieve the Caliphate. What we describe as “extreme” or “moderate” is really the speed at which an Islamic group seeks to recreate the Caliphate.

ISIS is at the extreme end of the scale, not because it tortures, kills and rapes, but because it implemented the Caliphate immediately. The atrocities for which ISIS has become known are typical of a functioning Caliphate. The execution of Muslims who do not submit to the Caliph, the ethnic cleansing and sexual slavery of non-Muslims are not aberrations. They are normal behavior for a Caliphate.

ISIS is in some ways our least dangerous enemy.

the Muslim Brotherhood is the trickiest of them all because it is so deeply embedded within Muslim populations in the West that it represents and controls those populations.

What ISIS accomplishes by brute force, the Muslim Brotherhood does by setting up networks of front groups. Both ISIS and the Brotherhood control large Muslim populations. ISIS conquers populations in failed states. The Muslim Brotherhood however exercises control over populations in the cities of the West. We could bomb Raqqa, but can we bomb Dearborn, Jersey City or Irvine?

The Muslim Brotherhood is on the moderate side of the Caliphate curve not because it doesn’t want to bring back the Caliphate, it does, or because it doesn’t want to subjugate non-Muslims, it does, but because it wants to do so gradually over an extended period of time using modern political methods.

We are not at war with an organization, but with the idea that Muslims are superior to non-Muslims and are endowed by Allah with the right to rule over them, to rob them, to rape them and enslave them.

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 03:25:23 AM
As for radical Muslims only being a small minority in the world  ::)

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 03:33:46 AM
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 04, 2016, 03:57:02 AM
Islamic Supremacists have vision for the world. They advocate a restoration of the Caliphate.
No one on the Caliphate curve is moderate. Some on the Caliphate curve are just more patient.

Islamic Supremacist organizations like ISIS can be graded on the “Caliphate curve”. The Caliphate curve is based on how quickly an Islamic organization wants to achieve the Caliphate. What we describe as “extreme” or “moderate” is really the speed at which an Islamic group seeks to recreate the Caliphate.

ISIS is at the extreme end of the scale, not because it tortures, kills and rapes, but because it implemented the Caliphate immediately. The atrocities for which ISIS has become known are typical of a functioning Caliphate. The execution of Muslims who do not submit to the Caliph, the ethnic cleansing and sexual slavery of non-Muslims are not aberrations. They are normal behavior for a Caliphate.

ISIS is in some ways our least dangerous enemy.

the Muslim Brotherhood is the trickiest of them all because it is so deeply embedded within Muslim populations in the West that it represents and controls those populations.

What ISIS accomplishes by brute force, the Muslim Brotherhood does by setting up networks of front groups. Both ISIS and the Brotherhood control large Muslim populations. ISIS conquers populations in failed states. The Muslim Brotherhood however exercises control over populations in the cities of the West. We could bomb Raqqa, but can we bomb Dearborn, Jersey City or Irvine?

The Muslim Brotherhood is on the moderate side of the Caliphate curve not because it doesn’t want to bring back the Caliphate, it does, or because it doesn’t want to subjugate non-Muslims, it does, but because it wants to do so gradually over an extended period of time using modern political methods.

We are not at war with an organization, but with the idea that Muslims are superior to non-Muslims and are endowed by Allah with the right to rule over them, to rob them, to rape them and enslave them.


You could have just written that you have no idea of any timescales.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 04:29:58 AM
You could have just written that you have no idea of any timescales.

Eurabia will happen by latest 2030

The UN has officially already predicted Sweden will be a 3rd world country by then…

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

Europe as we knew it was  Judeo/Christian - - it is currently in a "Neutral phase" and is controlled by mostly gays and politically correct liberal elite.

Before they realize it radical Islam will do a soft take over from these weak defenceless pussies and completely restoring the Islamic caliphate in most major cities.

The gays and left that defends Islam or were too scared to mention ISIS by name will have served their purpose and be thrown off rooftops and feminists gang raped into submission.

Finally the Arnolds Europe will introduce a men’s Burkini division  :D
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 04, 2016, 04:33:49 AM
Eurabia will happen by latest 2030

The UN has officially already predicted Sweden will be a 3rd world country by then…

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

Europe as we knew it was  Judeo/Christian - - it is currently in a "Neutral phase" and is controlled by mostly gays and politically correct liberal elite.

Before they realize it radical Islam will do a soft take over from these weak defenceless pussies and completely restoring the Islamic caliphate in most major cities.

The gays and liberals that defended Islam will have served their purpose and be thrown off rooftops and feminists gang raped into submission. IFBB Arnolds Europe will  consist of a men’s Burkinis division etc.

Welcome to Eurabia  8)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Tin_foil_hat_2.jpg)
lol at that fucking link as a source of information
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dj181 on July 04, 2016, 04:37:46 AM
Eurabia will happen by latest 2030

The UN has officially already predicted Sweden will be a 3rd world country by then…

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

Europe as we knew it was  Judeo/Christian - - it is currently in a "Neutral phase" and is controlled by mostly gays and politically correct liberal elite.

Before they realize it radical Islam will do a soft take over from these weak defenceless pussies and completely restoring the Islamic caliphate in most major cities.

The gays and left that defends Islam or were too scared to mention ISIS by name will have served their purpose and be thrown off rooftops and feminists gang raped into submission.
IFBB Arnolds Europe will consist of only a men’s Burkinis division.

Welcome to Eurabia  8)


doubt it, the isreali jews will wipe their asses out before it can happen, or as howard stern says "our jews will send our blacks to beat thier asses" it ain't gonna happen ;) mazol tov!!!!
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 04:38:43 AM
No conspiracy, just observation of reality...

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 05:03:30 AM

lol at that fucking link as a source of information


Jesus Christ! Pull your head out your arse - what the fck is to deny?
Open your dumb Kunt eyes...

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dr.chimps on July 04, 2016, 05:08:17 AM
No conspiracy, just observation of reality...


Nope. Just you making fucked up Islamic terrorists the center of your identity. Grow up. Get a job. Get out of the basement you fat fuck.  :)
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 05:27:38 AM
Nope. Just you making fucked up Islamic terrorists the center of your identity. Grow up. Get a job. Get out of the basement you fat fuck.  :)

Hardly  ::) Given the headline news worldwide the last few weekends would you not agree it's pretty relevant?

Fat and jobless? hahahahaha Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups "Doc"
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 05:29:36 AM
Jesus Christ! Pull your head out your arse - what the fck is to deny?
Open your dumb Kunt eyes...



hey kunt

we get it you're terrified, confused and bewildered

take a deep breath, go out and start attacking

violence is the answer to your problems

get out, do something and report back here on your exploits.


Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 05:32:49 AM
question for those who agree with the "ideology"

when will you be carrying out your terrorist attacks?

how long will we be be subject to your whining?

 ???
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 05:46:29 AM
hey kunt

we get it you're terrified, confused and bewildered
take a deep breath, go out and start attacking
violence is the answer to your problems
get out, do something and report back here on your exploits.


I live in South Africa, Muslims are of no concerns to me. LEAST of my concerns here!
In fact I have a few good Muslim friends but they are moderate suffi or sunni... in general there no issue here in SA - Muslim only make up 1,3 % of our religious population and are moderate.

Besides the majority traditional Zulus won't tolerate any Sharia shit here. That's for damn sure.
Zulus will just straight up kill anyone interfering with their culture right in the street.

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dr.chimps on July 04, 2016, 06:03:43 AM
I live in South Africa, Muslims are of no concerns to me.
In fact I have a few good Muslim friends but they are moderate suffi or sunni... in general there no issue here in SA - Muslim only make up 1,3 % of our religious population.

Besides the majority traditional Zulus don't tolerate any shit here.
Zulus will just straight up kill any outsiders causing any trouble right in the street.



Intolerance in SA. Nothing new.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 06:07:34 AM
I live in South Africa, Muslims are of no concerns to me.
In fact I have a few good Muslim friends but they are moderate suffi or sunni... in general there no issue here in SA - Muslim only make up 1,3 % of our religious population.

Besides the majority traditional Zulus don't tolerate any shit here.
Zulus will just straight up kill any outsiders causing any trouble right in the street.

yes violence is the answer,

considering you are an outsider in SA

I would recommend you visit the nearest "zulu stronghold"

let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 06:14:01 AM
Intolerance in SA. Nothing new.

The World over, don't kid yourself. Multiculturalism is and will be a huge fail.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 06:28:40 AM
yes violence is the answer,

considering you are an outsider in SA

I would recommend you visit the nearest "zulu stronghold"

let us know how it goes.

As much as I disagree with some aspects of your oppressive belief system, at least you stand up for your own kind,  unlike so many self hating liberal white idiots nowadays who defend you.

They don't get it,,If you have significantly more empathy than the person you are dealing with you will always lose.

This mindset really is a mental decease and will be the Wests undoing.

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 04, 2016, 06:33:34 AM
Jesus Christ! Pull your head out your arse - what the fck is to deny?
Open your dumb Kunt eyes...



Classic truther aggressive reply when faced with the reality that his nonsense is in fact utter nonsense.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 06:36:48 AM
Classic truther aggressive reply when faced with the reality that his nonsense is in fact utter nonsense.

Can we at least agree that not ALL Muslims are terrorists, but that all terrorists are Muslim?  :D
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dr.chimps on July 04, 2016, 06:44:33 AM
The World over, don't kid yourself. Multiculturalism is and will be a huge fail.

Yes, and, no. Making it the center of your being - fail. Lose some weight; get out of the basement; have some fun.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 07:04:41 AM
As much as I disagree with some aspects of your oppressive belief system, at least you stand up for your own kind,  unlike so many self hating liberal white idiots nowadays who defend you.

They don't get it,,If you have significantly more empathy than the person you are dealing with you will always lose.

This mindset really is a mental decease and will be the Wests undoing.


sorry I don't understand what you're talking about apart from your endorsement of terrorism

nevertheless, looking forward to hearing about your battle with the zulu nation

good luck!

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 07:11:45 AM
sorry I don't understand what you're talking about apart from your endorsement of terrorism

nevertheless, looking forward to hearing about your battle with the zulu nation

good luck!



Where exactly did I endorse terrorism? You really are a dumb Kunt.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dr.chimps on July 04, 2016, 07:17:11 AM
Farage just resigned - from whatever shitstain office he held. Big mistake. Big.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 07:19:06 AM
Where exactly did I endorse terrorism? You really are a dumb Kunt.


you indicated that the zulus will kill any troublemakers in the street, maintaining the natural order.  

try reading the first post and please provide a final answer.
 

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 07:22:40 AM
Farage just resigned - from whatever shitstain office he held. Big mistake. Big.

gives you an idea of how solid the "movement" is
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SuperTed on July 04, 2016, 07:46:06 AM
ISIS is in some ways our least dangerous enemy.

I agree with this comment. Since, IS are very transparent with their motives, they are a enemy which is very apparent to anyone and everyone.
I think the bigger issue is with members of the Muslim community in the West who support similar ideas to IS but aren't openly supporting acts of violence.
In the UK, there are several mainstream Muslim websites and respected individuals within their community who promote dangerous Salafi theocracy and anti-Western rhetoric. What I've noticed is that all political affairs and events are judged through Islamic lenses, history gets distorted to push a pro-Islamic narrative and conspiracy theories are often believed above facts.
Beliefs that would be considered very much a fringe within other religions are alarmingly quite common among theirs.

The "all Muslims must die" comments by Erik C are so retarded they aren't worthy of a response. However, it is unwise to downplay the Islamic threat since it is very real. The more the Muslim population expands in the West, the more obvious this will become.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 07:59:39 AM
you indicated that the zulus will kill any troublemakers in the street, maintaining the natural order.  

try reading the first post and please provide a final answer.
 



If ISIS were defeated there are 15 other groups sharing its worldview that were ready to take its place.

And that’s just in Syria...

So even If you can destroy ISIS and their racist ideas tomorrow, you will still be in an extended war with a hundred other groups who all have a vision for restoring the Caliphate. As long as Muslim groups hold out hope for a restoration of the Caliphate this war, in its various forms, it will go on.

Until this racist idea is defeated, new Islamic groups will constantly keep arising animated by this vision.

Wars fueled by supremacist beliefs have historically only ended when the illusion of superiority was destroyed by utterly defeating and humiliating the attackers. It worked with Japan and Nazi Germany...

A war will not end until the supremacist faith is destroyed.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: SuperTed on July 04, 2016, 08:05:51 AM
Wars fueled by supremacist beliefs have historically only ended when the illusion of superiority was destroyed by utterly defeating and humiliating the attackers. It worked with Japan and Nazi Germany...

This wouldn't work either. We aren't looking at one or two nations here, but a religion shared by a billion and a half people.
As I've said before, the best choice would be to avoid interfering in their politics and lands while restricting Muslim migration into Western nations.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Super Natural on July 04, 2016, 08:08:14 AM
This wouldn't work either. We aren't looking at one or two nations here, but a religion shared by a billion and a half people.
As I've said before, the best choice would be to avoid interfering in their politics and lands while restricting Muslim migration into Western nations.

Agreed, unfortunately "pandora's box" has been opened...
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: dr.chimps on July 04, 2016, 08:14:13 AM
I agree with this comment. Since, IS are very transparent with their motives, they are a enemy which is very apparent to anyone and everyone.
I think the bigger issue is with members of the Muslim community in the West who support similar ideas to IS but aren't openly supporting acts of violence.
In the UK, there are several mainstream Muslim websites and respected individuals within their community who promote dangerous Salafi theocracy and anti-Western rhetoric. What I've noticed is that all political affairs and events are judged through Islamic lenses, history gets distorted to push a pro-Islamic narrative and conspiracy theories are often believed above facts.
Beliefs that would be considered very much a fringe within other religions are alarmingly quite common among theirs.

The "all Muslims must die" comments by Erik C are so retarded they aren't worthy of a response. However,[i] it is unwise to downplay the Islamic threat since it is very real.[/i] The more the Muslim population expands in the West, the more obvious this will become.
Agree. KISS. Keep it Simple Stupid. Too much wordiness.    
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: chaos on July 04, 2016, 08:17:05 AM

They don't get it,,If you have significantly more empathy than the person you are dealing with you will always lose.

This mindset really is a mental decease and will be the Wests undoing.


This
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 08:32:40 AM
If ISIS were defeated there are 15 other groups sharing its worldview that were ready to take its place.

And that’s just in Syria...

So even If you can destroy ISIS and their racist ideas tomorrow, you will still be in an extended war with a hundred other groups who all have a vision for restoring the Caliphate. As long as Muslim groups hold out hope for a restoration of the Caliphate this war, in its various forms, it will go on.

Until this racist idea is defeated, new Islamic groups will constantly keep arising animated by this vision.

Wars fueled by supremacist beliefs have historically only ended when the illusion of superiority was destroyed by utterly defeating and humiliating the attackers. It worked with Japan and Nazi Germany...

A war will not end until the supremacist faith is destroyed.

well if you really look at the history it will become clear what causes war and what ends it. It has nothing to do with supremacist beliefs these are the tools used to mobilize populations politically.

War is in fact about control, resources and making money.

You can go on and on about poisonous ideology and destruction till the cows come home. Try adding some comments on the socio-economic environment and you'll be a little closer to reality.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 04, 2016, 08:39:02 AM
Can we at least agree that not ALL Muslims are terrorists, but that all terrorists are Muslim?  :D
Dont you think muslims believe the west are terrorists dropping bombs on their schools and hospitals?

So no, not all terrorists are muslim, anyone committing acts of terrorism are terrorists
Quote
terrorism
ˈtɛrərɪzəm/Submit
noun
the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Now, who started the illegal war in Iraq?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Fortress on July 04, 2016, 08:45:29 AM
All this endless global trouble because some 'tards wanna put their inevitable-delusional trust in some low rent sky wizard who, among the legion of others invented by other mindless scaredy cats, is seriously bottom of the barrel.

Muslims are a dopey bunch. Intense and very oftentimes violent, but dopey, regardless.

Best to mock, ridicule and give them no peace from criticism. And where possible, keep them out of non-Muslim lands.

Their intolerable horseshit only brings misery.

Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 04, 2016, 09:06:15 AM

Now, who started the illegal war in Iraq?


Do you feel it was George Bush?
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: mr.turbo on July 04, 2016, 09:47:12 AM
All this endless global trouble because some 'tards wanna put their inevitable-delusional trust in some low rent sky wizard who, among the legion of others invented by other mindless scaredy cats, is seriously bottom of the barrel.

Muslims are a dopey bunch. Intense and very oftentimes violent, but dopey, regardless.

Best to mock, ridicule and give them no peace from criticism. And where possible, keep them out of non-Muslim lands.

Their intolerable horseshit only brings misery.



terrorism lover

you've failed to deny your allegiance to islam

jesus christ, I hope the authorities are monitoring your communications
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Simple Simon on July 04, 2016, 11:28:24 AM
Do you feel it was George Bush?

It was the WEST, lets leave it at that.
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: The True Adonis on July 04, 2016, 11:34:52 AM
what they do in their own backyard is their business, its been like that for thousands of years, its not unusual to them.

And yes, they are content to mind their own business, they stay in their own backyards, they dont come across to the West to invade foreign lands, can you remember when an arab nation declared war on a western nation?

We all know they dont have to power to inflict any real damage, but the West invading their lands and dropping bombs on women and children is what allows they radicals an excuse to do what they do.
I have said it before, there were no radical muslims until the West created them by its actions.
How does this explain Muslims taking over Sweden, a country that has never done anything to provoke them?  ???
Title: Re: An interesting ideology
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 04, 2016, 12:38:55 PM
It was the WEST, lets leave it at that.

Agreed, but Bush and Cheney always takes the Liberal blame, don't they?

Read up on the "Iraq Liberation Act" passed into law in 1998 by Democrat President Bill Clinton.

Then ponder the future Presidents having to uphold the "laws of the land".

Liberal/Democrat politics at its best.