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Title: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2016, 07:56:17 AM
The initial news conference last night from the chief of police was weird.  He seemed to want to share a lot of details while they still had an active shooter.   I wake up this morning and see they killed the guy with a bomb (how weird and convenient).  I can already imagine the CT's and connecting the dots on who really did this (I assume at least one theory will be that the Obama administration is behind it as a way to garner support to take away everyones guns)

As mass shootings go I don't see why this is such a big news story.   As far as mass shootings go this is pretty average.  Only 6 people were killed. And those 6 people were armed so there goes the theory that a good guy with a gun is the solution to a bad guy with a gun

Seriously though, if there is one thing I've learned from the right wingers on this board and in this country is that this kind of shit is going to happen.  There's basically nothing you can do about it.  Given the fact that only 6 people got killed I don't see why people are acting like it's such a big deal.

Just for some perspective, the Sandy Hook shooter killed 6 adults and 20 children.  How many were killed at Virginia Tech..30+

Let's face it.  This is an average to below average mass shooting by our standards.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: 240 is Back on July 08, 2016, 08:34:28 AM
because in the eyes of many,

6 cops > 50 young people in a gay bar.

Sad but true for many of them.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2016, 08:50:31 AM
because in the eyes of many,

6 cops > 50 young people in a gay bar.

Sad but true for many of them.

since when do you speak for "the many"

BTW - I never mentioned the Pulse shooting

just saying as far as body counts go this one is nothing special
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: 240 is Back on July 08, 2016, 08:58:09 AM
since when do you speak for "the many"

BTW - I never mentioned the Pulse shooting

just saying as far as body counts go this one is nothing special


cause some idiots assign more weight to certain bodies.

when a dude was shot dead by police, it's all "Look, he had weed charges, he deserved it".

Not saying you said it.  Mostly Trump/Palin supporters.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2016, 09:04:23 AM

cause some idiots assign more weight to certain bodies.

when a dude was shot dead by police, it's all "Look, he had weed charges, he deserved it".

Not saying you said it.  Mostly Trump/Palin supporters.

I'm not seeing anyone doing that yet but time will tell

maybe this is getting so much news because of all the real time video and the "sniper" factor
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: 240 is Back on July 08, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
I'm not seeing anyone doing that yet

read the main getbig thread.   read FR.   Oh yeah, it's a bigger deal to them, than 50 kids at Pulse, for sure.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2016, 09:25:23 AM
read the main getbig thread.   read FR.   Oh yeah, it's a bigger deal to them, than 50 kids at Pulse, for sure.

again, why are you mentioning Pulse

what about the students at Sandy Hook and their teachers or the teachers and students at Virginia Tech

Anyone remember when a gunman killed 6 people at a Sikh Temple

You can google "shooting at" and then type any random letter and take your pick of a shooting event.

This is just a daily part of life in this country. 

nothing special
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: pestosterone on July 08, 2016, 10:32:06 AM
This bs helping media draw attention away from Hilary bs.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Skeletor on July 08, 2016, 12:07:18 PM
This bs helping media draw attention away from Hilary bs.

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Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: tonymctones on July 08, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
The initial news conference last night from the chief of police was weird.  He seemed to want to share a lot of details while they still had an active shooter.   I wake up this morning and see they killed the guy with a bomb (how weird and convenient).  I can already imagine the CT's and connecting the dots on who really did this (I assume at least one theory will be that the Obama administration is behind it as a way to garner support to take away everyones guns)

As mass shootings go I don't see why this is such a big news story.   As far as mass shootings go this is pretty average.  Only 6 people were killed. And those 6 people were armed so there goes the theory that a good guy with a gun is the solution to a bad guy with a gun

Seriously though, if there is one thing I've learned from the right wingers on this board and in this country is that this kind of shit is going to happen.  There's basically nothing you can do about it.  Given the fact that only 6 people got killed I don't see why people are acting like it's such a big deal.

Just for some perspective, the Sandy Hook shooter killed 6 adults and 20 children.  How many were killed at Virginia Tech..30+

Let's face it.  This is an average to below average mass shooting by our standards.
I seriously hope this is a joke or just plain ignorance if not
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2016, 04:29:53 PM
I seriously hope this is a joke or just plain ignorance if not

feel free to elaborate  

there is no question that, other than the fact it was a sniper in Dallas, there is nothing particularly noteworthy about this incident

6 killed and 5 wounded

run of the mill mass shooting event in this country by any standard

I guess the one exception would be that the bad guy with a gun was not killed by a good guy with a gun but rather by a robot with a bomb

that is noteworthy

perhaps we now all need to get ourselves a robot with a bomb
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: TheGrinch on July 08, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organization
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 08, 2016, 07:51:20 PM
It takes a lot of effort to be as clueless as straw.  This was another Obama voter on a rampage as a result of failed presidency and divisive politics of imam ayatollah Obama al baracki.   

Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 08, 2016, 08:10:45 PM
It takes a lot of effort to be as clueless as straw.  This was another Obama voter on a rampage as a result of failed presidency and divisive politics of imam ayatollah Obama al baracki.   

off your meds again

just another very average mass shooting

don't worry, there will surely be another one very soon and you'll forget all about this one
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
Thank the Obama administration for inciting this fake narrative bullshit.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: obsidian on July 09, 2016, 01:27:45 AM

Let's face it.  This is an average to below average mass shooting by our standards.
The mass shooting of USA cops because they are cops is never a below average event. This has not happened before in the history of USA where blacks target and kill white cops with the help of certain US government officials including the president. Let's face it. Obama is partly responsible for the BLM movement. So is Clinton.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: lilhawk1 on July 09, 2016, 07:36:24 AM
More guns...We need more guns...what happened here?  Texas is an open carry state, there were hundreds of cops against one guy, and he ran loose for how many hours?  Sure seemed to me like this one guy had an entire police force pinned behind their cop cars hiding.  Wouldn't you think they could have surrounded him and killed him?  It was ONE guy, not 3-4 like they claimed.  Better training for cops maybe?  Hire more qualified people for the job?  They don't have any trouble killing people who are no threat to them as we saw last week, but when someone shoots back, sure seems like a different story.  Majority of cops I know couldn't handle anybody in a simple street fight....Weak, fat, out of shape...
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Purge_WTF on July 09, 2016, 08:08:04 AM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organization

 I keep waiting for Mark "Shaggy" Potok and the SPLC to add them to The List. I should probably grab a Snickers.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 09, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
The mass shooting of USA cops because they are cops is never a below average event. This has not happened before in the history of USA where blacks target and kill white cops with the help of certain US government officials including the president. Let's face it. Obama is partly responsible for the BLM movement. So is Clinton.

big deal

this time it just happened to be cops

next time it will be some other group

oddly, all the victims in this case happened to be armed

Any shooting is tragic but from reading the posts on this board after past shootings I've come to accept that this is just part of the American way of life as much as apple pie and baseball.  

It's always a tragedy when innocent people are murdered but at least the families of these victims were likely prepared for the possibility of them dying in the line of duty.

I don't think anyone is prepared to have their toddler turned into  30 pounds of hamburger meat when they drop him off at kindergarten in the morning

I have no doubt that people like you believe that Obama is responsible.  That dude is responsible for every bad thing that happens.  Even after he's no longer POTUS people like you will think he's responsible whenever something like this happens

Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 09, 2016, 01:34:21 PM
I get that it's cool to to say it's no big deal that a half dozen cops were mowed down by someone during a relatively peaceful protest against police brutality that the said cops were providing security for. I get that it's uber cool to downplay the fact it's cops. But since you don't get it I will try to explain what the majority think about it. Those that aren't as super cool as you. Cops are representative of those who protect and serve the public. They are the ones who are suppose to come running when we are in trouble. Like in that event when people were running away, and right so, the cops were converging on the scene, trying to figure out where the shots were coming from. Many people still see cops as the good guys, the ones that are supposed to be somewhat invulnerable. So for most of the country, it's rather shocking when 6 of them get shot down. If they can be killed so easily, what about us? So while I will certainly agree a cops life is no more valuable than the average citizen, both are a tragedy and should be mourned, there is just something extra shocking when it's a group of people that are supposed to be our protectors that get mowed down. That's why it seems to be a big deal on TV. You're just going to have to pardon our uncoolness 
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 09, 2016, 04:59:10 PM
I get that it's cool to to say it's no big deal that a half dozen cops were mowed down by someone during a relatively peaceful protest against police brutality that the said cops were providing security for. I get that it's uber cool to downplay the fact it's cops. But since you don't get it I will try to explain what the majority think about it. Those that aren't as super cool as you. Cops are representative of those who protect and serve the public. They are the ones who are suppose to come running when we are in trouble. Like in that event when people were running away, and right so, the cops were converging on the scene, trying to figure out where the shots were coming from. Many people still see cops as the good guys, the ones that are supposed to be somewhat invulnerable. So for most of the country, it's rather shocking when 6 of them get shot down. If they can be killed so easily, what about us? So while I will certainly agree a cops life is no more valuable than the average citizen, both are a tragedy and should be mourned, there is just something extra shocking when it's a group of people that are supposed to be our protectors that get mowed down. That's why it seems to be a big deal on TV. You're just going to have to pardon our uncoolness 

It's got nothing to the with being cool

The right wing in this country has convinced me that mass shootings are simply part of being free in America and at this point in our history 6 people getting shot is no longer shocking.   If we weren't shocked into doing something when 6 adults and 20 toddlers were murdered (many shot so many times they were almost impossible to even identify) then why should we be shocked about this.  Lets also stop with the hero worship of cops.  They are paid to do their job just like everyone else and I'm sure most of them would tell you that.   I'm not trying to make light of this situation but just pointing out that we do NOTHING in this country to stop this kind of violence (cue all the usual arguments why nothing can be  done) so let's stop pretending this something unusual just because the victims of this particular mass shooting happened to be armed police officers.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2016, 06:02:19 PM
It's got nothing to the with being cool

The right wing in this country has convinced me that mass shootings are simply part of being free in America and at this point in our history 6 people getting shot is no longer shocking.   If we weren't shocked into doing something when 6 adults and 20 toddlers were murdered (many shot so many times they were almost impossible to even identify) then why should we be shocked about this.  Lets also stop with the hero worship of cops.  They are paid to do their job just like everyone else and I'm sure most of them would tell you that.   I'm not trying to make light of this situation but just pointing out that we do NOTHING in this country to stop this kind of violence (cue all the usual arguments why nothing can be  done) so let's stop pretending this something unusual just because the victims of this particular mass shooting happened to be armed police officers.
Let's hear your solution. Without violating my rights as an American. :)
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: TheGrinch on July 09, 2016, 07:18:04 PM
It's got nothing to the with being cool

The right wing in this country has convinced me that mass shootings are simply part of being free in America and at this point in our history 6 people getting shot is no longer shocking.   If we weren't shocked into doing something when 6 adults and 20 toddlers were murdered (many shot so many times they were almost impossible to even identify) then why should we be shocked about this.  Lets also stop with the hero worship of cops.  They are paid to do their job just like everyone else and I'm sure most of them would tell you that.   I'm not trying to make light of this situation but just pointing out that we do NOTHING in this country to stop this kind of violence (cue all the usual arguments why nothing can be  done) so let's stop pretending this something unusual just because the victims of this particular mass shooting happened to be armed police officers.


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Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years


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Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 09, 2016, 07:25:02 PM
Let's hear your solution. Without violating my rights as an American. :)

Haven't I already said a couple of times in this thread that I've come to agree with your side that there is no solution

Mass shootings are part of this country and we all just have to accept that fact

In fact, mass shootings are now somewhat of an American tradition like apple pie and baseball
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 09, 2016, 07:32:31 PM

PWNED by the LIBERAL Clinton News Network

Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years


http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/

good to know

just proves there is no need to do anything and everyone can just stop whining when a gunman kills 20 school children and certainly STFU when only 6 people are killed.  They can just comfort themselves with the fact that gun violence is on the decline.   
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: iwantmass on July 10, 2016, 04:44:44 AM
Haven't I already said a couple of times in this thread that I've come to agree with your side that there is no solution

Mass shootings are part of this country and we all just have to accept that fact

In fact, mass shootings are now somewhat of an American tradition like apple pie and baseball


Can you provide a link that shows where right wingers think mass shooting are common and acceptable, and they don't want to do anything to prevent them?

I was under the impression that they are unacceptable catastrophic anomalies that people like you try to use to push gun control.  It is a major leap to say that not wanting to knee jerk on gun control/removal of freedoms is the equivalent of not wanting to resolve mass shooting. 

Just because some people don't want to let people like yourself politicize a tragedy, doesn't mean they don't care or find mass shootings acceptable.  You should be embarrassed  of this hissy fit of a thread
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 08:42:04 AM
Can you provide a link that shows where right wingers think mass shooting are common and acceptable, and they don't want to do anything to prevent them?

I was under the impression that they are unacceptable catastrophic anomalies that people like you try to use to push gun control.  It is a major leap to say that not wanting to knee jerk on gun control/removal of freedoms is the equivalent of not wanting to resolve mass shooting. 

Just because some people don't want to let people like yourself politicize a tragedy, doesn't mean they don't care or find mass shootings acceptable.  You should be embarrassed  of this hissy fit of a thread

mass shootings (let's say when 4 or more people are shot) are a common occurrence in this country.  That is not a left or right wing opinion but a matter of fact.  In fact most of them are barely a blip on the news

I never said the right wing said they are acceptable.  I've said I've come to agree with right wingers  that there is nothing we can do about them.  I'm not aware of right wingers offering any solution other than "good guy with a gun stops bad guy with a gun".  If they've offered  some other solution that I'm not aware of  then please let me know

Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Erik C on July 10, 2016, 08:51:39 AM
mass shootings (let's say when 4 or more people are shot) are a common occurrence in this country.  That is not a left or right wing opinion but a matter of fact.  In fact most of them are barely a blip on the news

I never said the right wing said they are acceptable.  I've said I've come to agree with right wingers  that there is nothing we can do about them.  I'm not aware of right wingers offering any solution other than "good guy with a gun stops bad guy with a gun".  If they've offered  some other solution that I'm not aware of  then please let me know



Actually, This Time, It Was Good Guys With A Bomb, That Wasted The Negroid Scum!
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: iwantmass on July 10, 2016, 08:56:00 AM
mass shootings (let's say when 4 or more people are shot) are a common occurrence in this country.  That is not a left or right wing opinion but a matter of fact.  In fact most of them are barely a blip on the news

I never said the right wing said they are acceptable.  I've said I've come to agree with right wingers  that there is nothing we can do about them.  I'm not aware of right wingers offering any solution other than "good guy with a gun stops bad guy with a gun".  If they've offered  some other solution that I'm not aware of  then please let me know



It is your opinion that they are common occurrences.  I still find them to be anomalies.   They are just heavily televised when they do happen, for obvious reason, because they are horrible.

Just because you aren't aware of other solutions, doesn't mean they aren't there.  Just as you claim the only solution offered that you are aware of is the "good guy with the gun" scenario, I could claim that the left gives 2 fucks about these victims and only preys on these incidents to push the agenda of gun control.


While we are at it, are you only concerned about the shootings?  The Boston bombing didn't use guns. And the Dallas sniper had all the supplies necessary to make multiple pipe bombs. 

At least with the Dallas sniper, if liberals would drop the PC bullshit, we may have been able to monitor traffic/communications in these black extremists groups that constantly threaten violence against whites people.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 10:00:19 AM
Actually, This Time, It Was Good Guys With A Bomb, That Wasted The Negroid Scum!

Technically it was a Robot with a Bomb
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Erik C on July 10, 2016, 10:03:25 AM
Technically it was a Robot with a Bomb

Operated By Good Guys!
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
It is your opinion that they are common occurrences.  I still find them to be anomalies.   They are just heavily televised when they do happen, for obvious reason, because they are horrible.

Just because you aren't aware of other solutions, doesn't mean they aren't there.  Just as you claim the only solution offered that you are aware of is the "good guy with the gun" scenario, I could claim that the left gives 2 fucks about these victims and only preys on these incidents to push the agenda of gun control.


While we are at it, are you only concerned about the shootings?  The Boston bombing didn't use guns. And the Dallas sniper had all the supplies necessary to make multiple pipe bombs.  

At least with the Dallas sniper, if liberals would drop the PC bullshit, we may have been able to monitor traffic/communications in these black extremists groups that constantly threaten violence against whites people.


Sorry to have to burst your bubble but it's not my opinion that they are common place

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

It's also not my opinion that the only solution offered by the right wing is the "good guy with a gun" solution.  
That's all I'm aware of but If you know of other solutions offered by the right wing of this country I'd like to hear it.

You claim the left wing doesn't give a shit about victims of gun violence so tell us what you believe is their "agenda" for the very few gun regulations they've proposed.  We know you believe their motivation is not the victims and they actually don't even care about the victims so they obviously must have some other secret motivation.  Tell us what you believe that is and why you believe it

btw - why are you bringing up the Boston Bombing.  Are you suggesting the right to own bombs is part of 2nd amendment?

Do  we have bomb shops all over this country and the right to "open carry" our pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs?
Why are you even trying to include that in the discussion about guns?
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 10:07:21 AM
Operated By Good Guys!

but no way of knowing if that robot is actually a good guy

still though, as I said on the first page of this thread I guess we now all need to consider getting robots with bombs
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: iwantmass on July 10, 2016, 01:52:03 PM
Sorry to have to burst your bubble but it's not my opinion that they are common place

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

It's also not my opinion that the only solution offered by the right wing is the "good guy with a gun" solution.  
That's all I'm aware of but If you know of other solutions offered by the right wing of this country I'd like to hear it.

You claim the left wing doesn't give a shit about victims of gun violence so tell us what you believe is their "agenda" for the very few gun regulations they've proposed.  We know you believe their motivation is not the victims and they actually don't even care about the victims so they obviously must have some other secret motivation.  Tell us what you believe that is and why you believe it

btw - why are you bringing up the Boston Bombing.  Are you suggesting the right to own bombs is part of 2nd amendment?

Do  we have bomb shops all over this country and the right to "open carry" our pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs?
Why are you even trying to include that in the discussion about guns?

By your reasoning, we need to ban the common element in all these mass shootings.  I will use that term loosely, since most all of these you have linked were drive by shooting or similar in a black neighborhoods.  I doubt the guns were purchased legally, so.i don't know where gun reform would help here.  I stopped checking them after about 20 or so, because the details were almost always the same

Since you believe that we should ban the common element in mass shootings, then you must agree that we should ban black people from the US.  They were almost always the common element, as much so as guns were, in the cases you listed

That is also why you aren't hearing about them in main stream news, because black on black shootings are common place, not mass shootings.

I brought up the Boston Bombing as well as the Dallas sniper, that you chose to ignore, because in both cases murders would have been/were committed absent guns....because our pc government didn't allow us to investigate either of these groups, even though they were associated with terror groups.  If we had eliminated the guns, their ideology would still have directed them towards the same result
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: sync pulse on July 10, 2016, 03:13:08 PM

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Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years


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Reduction in the average blood lead level is believed to have been a major cause for falling violent crime rates in the United States and South Africa. Researchers including Amherst College economist Jessica Wolpaw Reyes, Department of Housing and Urban Development consultant Rick Nevin, and Howard Mielke of Tulane University, say that declining exposure to lead is responsible for up to a 56% decline in crime from 1992 to 2002. Including other factors that are believed to have increased crime rates over that period Reyes found that this led to an actual decline of 34% over that period.

A statistically significant correlation has been found between the usage rate of leaded gasoline and violent crime: taking into account a 22-year time lag, the violent crime curve virtually tracks the lead exposure curve. After the ban on TEL, blood lead levels in US children dramatically decreased.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 06:57:51 PM
By your reasoning, we need to ban the common element in all these mass shootings.  I will use that term loosely, since most all of these you have linked were drive by shooting or similar in a black neighborhoods.  I doubt the guns were purchased legally, so.i don't know where gun reform would help here.  I stopped checking them after about 20 or so, because the details were almost always the same

Since you believe that we should ban the common element in mass shootings, then you must agree that we should ban black people from the US.  They were almost always the common element, as much so as guns were, in the cases you listed

That is also why you aren't hearing about them in main stream news, because black on black shootings are common place, not mass shootings.

I brought up the Boston Bombing as well as the Dallas sniper, that you chose to ignore, because in both cases murders would have been/were committed absent guns....because our pc government didn't allow us to investigate either of these groups, even though they were associated with terror groups.  If we had eliminated the guns, their ideology would still have directed them towards the same result

Dude. where are you getting this shit.

I love how you assign "my reasoning" and then run with it

I told you my position in the first post on this thread.

Look at it again and stop assigning your beliefs to me:

This kind of shit is going to happen.  There's basically nothing you can do about it.



Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: iwantmass on July 10, 2016, 07:07:33 PM
Dude. where are you getting this shit.

I love how you assign "my reasoning" and then run with it

I told you my position in the first post on this thread.

Look at it again and stop assigning your beliefs to me:

This kind of shit is going to happen.  There's basically nothing you can do about it.





Why don't you tell me very clearly what your reasoning is.  You seem to be critical of Republicans for not wanting to infringe upon the 2nd amendment, but I will let you express your exact beliefs so I know exactly what I'm arguing against

As far as the rest of your post, you were being sarcastic.  I've made you look like an idiot time and time again, so don't think your sarcasm was lost on me

If you are wanting to ban guns on the basis that they are the common denominator, then there is almost always a single common denominator from your "mass shooting" list....as I mentioned above


So, go ahead and tell me exactly your beliefs/reasoning on the matter without using sarcasm to start a nonsense thread
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 08:23:57 PM
Why don't you tell me very clearly what your reasoning is.  You seem to be critical of Republicans for not wanting to infringe upon the 2nd amendment, but I will let you express your exact beliefs so I know exactly what I'm arguing against

As far as the rest of your post, you were being sarcastic.  I've made you look like an idiot time and time again, so don't think your sarcasm was lost on me

If you are wanting to ban guns on the basis that they are the common denominator, then there is almost always a single common denominator from your "mass shooting" list....as I mentioned above


So, go ahead and tell me exactly your beliefs/reasoning on the matter without using sarcasm to start a nonsense thread


it happens on a weekly basis

as far as I can tell there is nothing we can do

any questions?
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: iwantmass on July 10, 2016, 08:41:13 PM
it happens on a weekly basis

as far as I can tell there is nothing we can do

any questions?

Got it.  You hide behind sarcasm because you are too much of a coward to state your real stance, in fear of having the shit kicked out of you on this forum yet again.  

We can criticize coach, 240, soul crusher....hell even andre, for some of their absurd points.  What we can't do Is call them as gutless as strawman who will never state his true beliefs in fear of being the forum dumbass
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 10, 2016, 08:57:04 PM
Got it.  You hide behind sarcasm because you are too much of a coward to state your real stance, in fear of having the shit kicked out of you on this forum yet again.  

We can criticize coach, 240, soul crusher....hell even andre, for some of their absurd points.  What we can't do Is call them as gutless as strawman who will never state his true beliefs in fear of being the forum dumbass


that is my real stance

I literally can't do anything about this and see no reason to get upset about it

this is one area where right wingers have won me over to their side
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2016, 04:57:23 AM
Another Black Democrat goes on a rampage and leftists blame guns. 

Typical 
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: whork on July 11, 2016, 05:29:51 AM
I dont get rightwingers.

When a bunch of school kids get their brains blown out, rightwingers always say its a necessary evil because the public needs guns to fight a potentially evil government.

The police force has been killing of innocent people with impunity, a citizen takes up arms as he should and suddenly our resident conservatives doesnt praise him but whines about the incident.

Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2016, 05:47:12 AM
I dont get rightwingers.

When a bunch of school kids get their brains blown out, rightwingers always say its a necessary evil because the public needs guns to fight a potentially evil government.

The police force has been killing of innocent people with impunity, a citizen takes up arms as he should and suddenly our resident conservatives doesnt praise him but whines about the incident.



What do you propose?
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: whork on July 11, 2016, 05:59:53 AM
What do you propose?


Im not proposing anything.

I just find it weird that the justification of the peoples right to bear arms, is to oppose a potential oppressive government.

And when a citizen does just that suddenly the very same people doesnt recognize his right to fight said government.

Its like there is no line of thinking only a repeat of their preferred talking points that they dont understand themselves.



Welcome back by the way.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Option D on July 11, 2016, 06:58:43 AM
It takes a lot of effort to be as clueless as straw.  This was another Obama voter on a rampage as a result of failed presidency and divisive politics of imam ayatollah Obama al baracki.   



what in Gods name are you rambling about. Your blind party politics has poisoned your brain.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: OzmO on July 11, 2016, 07:31:00 AM
I dont get rightwingers.

When a bunch of school kids get their brains blown out, rightwingers always say its a necessary evil because the public needs guns to fight a potentially evil government.

Incorrect.  People want guns.  They want them for many different reasons.  The right is protected by the 2nd amendment.  While the reason for the "want" may be different for the reason for the 2nd amendment I don't see anyone saying that Sandy Hook killings are something we need to live with.

let's at least get the facts right and not delve into cheap facebook style meme logic.

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The police force has been killing of innocent people with impunity, a citizen takes up arms as he should and suddenly our resident conservatives doesnt praise him but whines about the incident.



Completely incorrect and insulting propaganda bull shit  A few police officers recently likely have committed murder by overstepping their authority and wrongfully used guns to shot some people.

In Dallas, a nut job took it upon himself to declare war on police and murdered 5 innocent police officers who are not related to the 2 recent likely wrongful deaths in Baton Rouge and Michigan.

let's at least get the facts right and not delve into cheap facebook style meme logic.





Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: whork on July 11, 2016, 08:29:49 AM
Incorrect.  People want guns.  They want them for many different reasons.  The right is protected by the 2nd amendment.  While the reason for the "want" may be different for the reason for the 2nd amendment I don't see anyone saying that Sandy Hook killings are something we need to live with.





Completely incorrect and insulting propaganda bull shit  A few police officers recently likely have committed murder by overstepping their authority and wrongfully used guns to shot some people.


Yes and the sentence is almost always the same. The police officer is acquitted everytime for what should be a clear case of outright murder.


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In Dallas, a nut job took it upon himself to declare war on police and murdered 5 innocent police officers who are not related to the 2 recent likely wrongful deaths in Baton Rouge and Michigan.


This "nut" took matters into his own hands. After seing so many innocent people murdered with no repercussions he decided to use his constitutionel right to fight back against an oppressive government/police force. I thought this was the reason for the 2nd amendment?








meme logic.[/b][/u]
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: OzmO on July 11, 2016, 08:42:40 AM


Yes and the sentence is almost always the same. The police officer is acquitted everytime for what should be a clear case of outright murder.


Everytime?  Com on whork!  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30339943 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30339943) "The cases where US police have faced killing charges"

 that's the first hit (of many) on the google search:   "police officer charged with murder on duty"

Com on whork, let's have a realistic discussion!  Let's not be a product of the media and FB!!!!!

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This "nut" took matters into his own hands. After seing so many innocent people murdered with no repercussions he decided to use his constitutionel right to fight back against an oppressive government/police force. I thought this was the reason for the 2nd amendment?



meme logic.[/b][/u]

No he committed murder.  Not only did he kill officers from another police force, they were also from another state.  Nor was he a militia, nor was his acts securing a free state.  He singled out cops doing their duty, not committing abuse or murder and killed them.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: whork on July 11, 2016, 08:57:33 AM
Everytime?  Com on whork!  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30339943 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30339943) "The cases where US police have faced killing charges"


I exaggerate to make a point, you know this.



 that's the first hit (of many) on the google search:   "police officer charged with murder on duty"

Com on whork, let's have a realistic discussion!  Let's not be a product of the media and FB!!!!!


Fair enough.

No he committed murder.  Not only did he kill officers from another police force, they were also from another state.  Nor was he a militia, nor was his acts securing a free state.  He singled out cops doing their duty, not committing abuse or murder and killed them.


Cops lie and cover for each other (sometimes). If they do that they must also come to terms with the fact that they will be seen as one entity.



Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: OzmO on July 11, 2016, 09:23:36 AM
I exaggerate to make a point, you know this.


A good point shouldn't have to be exaggerated or falsified. 

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Cops lie and cover for each other (sometimes). If they do that they must also come to terms with the fact that they will be seen as one entity.

That's the basis for many stereotypes and is a very wrong and unproductive in solving problems.

By that logic all Arabs are terrorists, all black s are criminals, all Mexicans are illegals, all whites are bigots, etc.  Anyone that really sees them as 1 entity is ignorant. 

Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2016, 10:22:03 AM
what in Gods name are you rambling about. Your blind party politics has poisoned your brain.


False - read what I wrote - this pos in Dallas is a direct product of the current environment promoted by race whores like obama, the media, hillary, blm, etc   

1)  Shooter was Obama Voter (Parents went to the innaugaration as well)

2) Angry at life - obama's america did not produce the promises made of milk and honey etc that all the idiots bought into

3) Imam Obama has been trashing police endlessly and this lit the match on an already bad situation w this guy.  not that hard to figure out.   


And F BLM - bunch of losers at life.    BLM are a bunch of pussies.  Lazy as F#$% land whales who want everything handed to them for free. 
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2016, 10:44:28 AM

False - read what I wrote - this pos in Dallas is a direct product of the current environment promoted by race whores like obama, the media, hillary, blm, etc   

1)  Shooter was Obama Voter (Parents went to the innaugaration as well)

2) Angry at life - obama's america did not produce the promises made of milk and honey etc that all the idiots bought into

3) Imam Obama has been trashing police endlessly and this lit the match on an already bad situation w this guy.  not that hard to figure out.   


And F BLM - bunch of losers at life.    BLM are a bunch of pussies.  Lazy as F#$% land whales who want everything handed to them for free. 

god damn you're just a stupid as ever

Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Option D on July 11, 2016, 10:58:57 AM
god damn you're just a stupid as ever



bruh
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2016, 11:47:07 AM
god damn you're just a stupid as ever



Then why are so many blacks so pissed off ?  Black preezy, black AG, blacks as heads of many police departments , you name it. 

Why are they so pissed off ?
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: Straw Man on July 11, 2016, 11:59:58 AM
Then why are so many blacks so pissed off ?  Black preezy, black AG, blacks as heads of many police departments , you name it. 

Why are they so pissed off ?

So you're going to start with the assumption that so many blacks are pissed off and then just continue with the presumption it's because Obama promised them stuff and now they're mad?

Is that how you see the world? 

It has nothing to do with years of discrimination, harrassment by the police, poor job opportunities, etc..

It's all because Obama promised them "milk and honey"?

For fucks sake you're a mental patient

BTW - this shooter appears to have had some undiagnosed mental health issues so it appears he actually has something in common with you.
Title: Re: The Dallas Shooting
Post by: whork on July 12, 2016, 01:46:32 AM
A good point shouldn't have to be exaggerated or falsified. 

That's the basis for many stereotypes and is a very wrong and unproductive in solving problems.

By that logic all Arabs are terrorists, all black s are criminals, all Mexicans are illegals, all whites are bigots, etc.  Anyone that really sees them as 1 entity is ignorant. 




Arabs who cover for terrorists are themselves conspirators to terrorism, blacks who cover for criminals are conspirators to a crime etc.

Its no different with cops.