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Title: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Fallsview on July 18, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
Question: Reading training articles, going to seminars and taking on a personal trainer. Does it help? I mean lets face it, if you want big arms you do curls, back-rows, chest-bench, etc. etc. It really isn't rocket science.

When one goes to a seminar given by some bodybuilder its practically useless. What do you actually think you're going to find out that no one else knows? They will never drop the Bodybuilding Kayfabe altogether. They actually think these bodybuilders are going to discuss their REAL doses of compounds? Yeah right, if you only knew what these guys took you'd be ragging on them like you do Bostin Loyd so they will never let out the real dosages.  So why do these people go? Is it just idol worship?

Training articles are worthless. You have to be in a gym for sometime to figure out what works for you. And by that time, why would you want to waste your time reading some article ghost written by some nobody.

Personal trainer? Why? Only if that person is cooking pharma that is worth it. If you've been in the game for years there is no need to have someone motivate and train you. In fact, I find working out with people annoying. Forced reps are basically just a lot of bullshit. You don't need them. You only see people doing them to look like the PRO's and bring the whole attention of the gym on them when they are screaming and moaning.





MAKE GETBIG GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 18, 2016, 12:43:13 PM
It's just boring: workout after workout after wokout....juiced or natty. It's such a boring sport.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Training

Weights are there as tools to enable you to develop your muscles and sculpt your body.

You can pick any exercises you choose be they compound or isolation exercises.

As long as you work the muscle to failure it will respond with growth.

It doesn’t matter how many days you choose to train your body will compensate and respond to the exercise and stress its put under.

Your muscle gains are defined by your genetic potential

Natural and enhanced have differing limits but you have limits all the same.

The function of a muscle is to move a limb in a certain direction, and to stimulate it you must work it with varying degrees under tension along its length.

The muscle will respond to any exercise, there are none that are better than others.

Diet

It all depends on your goals, at the end of the day, food is just fuel for your body.

If you want to be a weightlifter and are not concerned with body composition then just eat as much as you can from the main food sources your definition of “getting to fat” is up to you.

Forget about macros and calories, its irrelevant.

If you want to stay in shape and look good then you need to watch the mirror, again calories and macros don’t matter.

Keep an eye on your abs and intercostals, if you cant see them eat less until you can.

Eat a varied and balanced diet with no less than 100gms of protein a day.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 18, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
Training

Weights are there as tools to enable you to develop your muscles and sculpt your body.

You can pick any exercises you choose be they compound or isolation exercises.

As long as you work the muscle to failure it will respond with growth.

It doesn’t matter how many days you choose to train your body will compensate and respond to the exercise and stress its put under.

Your muscle gains are defined by your genetic potential

Natural and enhanced have differing limits but you have limits all the same.

The function of a muscle is to move a limb in a certain direction, and to stimulate it you must work it with varying degrees under tension along its length.

The muscle will respond to any exercise, there are none that are better than others.

Diet

It all depends on your goals, at the end of the day, food is just fuel for your body.

If you want to be a weightlifter and are not concerned with body composition then just eat as much as you can from the main food sources your definition of “getting to fat” is up to you.

Forget about macros and calories, its irrelevant.

If you want to stay in shape and look good then you need to watch the mirror, again calories and macros don’t matter.

Keep an eye on your abs and intercostals, if you cant see them eat less until you can.

Eat a varied and balanced diet with no less than 100gms of protein a day.
Nice post, not 100% correct, but still nice....
says Dr Dutch.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Erik C on July 18, 2016, 12:48:44 PM
Not From "Be There."
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2016, 12:49:38 PM
Not From "Be There."
Yep, Im the author of that, I posted it somewhere else first, try and track it down if you can.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 18, 2016, 12:53:16 PM
So Fallsview is our clown again  ;D ?
Or are they the same.....a waddahell.  8)
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Las Vegas on July 18, 2016, 12:57:51 PM
Yep, Im the author of that, I posted it somewhere else first, try and track it down if you can.

Lol, some don't believe you're the subject of your pics over there, I see.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Las Vegas on July 18, 2016, 12:59:38 PM
Good advice, btw.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Fallsview on July 18, 2016, 01:19:02 PM
So Fallsview is our clown again  ;D ?
Or are they the same.....a waddahell.  8)

I have no clue what that means.

I'm just saying, there really isn't anything anyone can tell you (If you've been training for a long time with results) that you don't already know. Unless you are a developmentally delayed beaver YOU know your body the best and what works and what doesn't. 

Sitting in a Powerhouse Gym hoodie in a overcrowded, smelly gym listening to Branch Warren for an hour is at best counterproductive.



MAKE GETBIG GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Erik C on July 18, 2016, 01:25:30 PM
Yep, Im the author of that, I posted it somewhere else first, try and track it down if you can.

As Though I'd Waste My Time.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2016, 01:29:00 PM
As Though I'd Waste My Time.
But its good advice all the same, would it kill you to admit it, you must think its OK as you decided it wasn't me who wrote it.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Erik C on July 18, 2016, 01:30:21 PM
But its good advice all the same, would it kill you to admit it, you must think its OK as you decided it wasn't me who wrote it.

I Didn't Say You Didn't Write It. I Don't Consider It Good Advice At All.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Las Vegas on July 18, 2016, 01:46:45 PM
But its good advice all the same, would it kill you to admit it, you must think its OK as you decided it wasn't me who wrote it.

The threads look pretty good (and funny).
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
I Didn't Say You Didn't Write It. I Don't Consider It Good Advice At All.
(http://s29.postimg.org/v35gbvqfr/myru8ly.jpg)
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 18, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
It's just boring: workout after workout after wokout....juiced or natty. It's such a boring sport.

There is so much more out there now to do

Agree - it got boring
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Erik C on July 18, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
(http://s29.postimg.org/v35gbvqfr/myru8ly.jpg)

WTF?
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Las Vegas on July 18, 2016, 01:59:46 PM
It's never boring to feel great!

Or maybe you guys aren't easily-enough amused.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 18, 2016, 02:29:16 PM
The way bodybuilders train, with their 15 sets for biceps, is just stupid. If you keep it simple and basic, you can lift 30-40 min 2-3 times a week and be done with it. By the time you start getting bored, the workout is over. Exercise is something you do to enhance your quality of life, but, if you spend the whole fuckin' day at it, you probably have no life.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 18, 2016, 05:14:33 PM
Question: Reading training articles, going to seminars and taking on a personal trainer. Does it help? I mean lets face it, if you want big arms you do curls, back-rows, chest-bench, etc. etc. It really isn't rocket science.

When one goes to a seminar given by some bodybuilder its practically useless. What do you actually think you're going to find out that no one else knows? They will never drop the Bodybuilding Kayfabe altogether. They actually think these bodybuilders are going to discuss their REAL doses of compounds? Yeah right, if you only knew what these guys took you'd be ragging on them like you do Bostin Loyd so they will never let out the real dosages.  So why do these people go? Is it just idol worship?

Training articles are worthless. You have to be in a gym for sometime to figure out what works for you. And by that time, why would you want to waste your time reading some article ghost written by some nobody.

Personal trainer? Why? Only if that person is cooking pharma that is worth it. If you've been in the game for years there is no need to have someone motivate and train you. In fact, I find working out with people annoying. Forced reps are basically just a lot of bullshit. You don't need them. You only see people doing them to look like the PRO's and bring the whole attention of the gym on them when they are screaming and moaning.





MAKE GETBIG GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Go fuck your aunt George, you fucking simpleton
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: 2scared2post on July 18, 2016, 05:47:53 PM
I Didn't Say You Didn't Write It. I Don't Consider It Good Advice At All.

Can you post your advice for training and dieting, also some pics of yourself to show how well it works.

Be There looks great, maybe following your advice he can take it to the next level!
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 18, 2016, 05:51:50 PM
Can you post your advice for training and dieting, also some pics of yourself to show how well it works.

Be There looks great, maybe following your advice he can take it to the next level!

Gimmick talking to a gimmick....typical Getbig Monday
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: 2scared2post on July 18, 2016, 05:53:15 PM
Gimmick talking to a gimmick....typical Getbig Monday

Gimmick talking about gimmicks talking, typical Getbig Monday
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2016, 05:55:33 PM
The way bodybuilders train, with their 15 sets for biceps, is just stupid. If you keep it simple and basic, you can lift 30-40 min 2-3 times a week and be done with it. By the time you start getting bored, the workout is over. Exercise is something you do to enhance your quality of life, but, if you spend the whole fuckin' day at it, you probably have no life.

Took me years to realize this one ^
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 18, 2016, 05:56:13 PM
Gimmick talking about gimmicks talking, typical Getbig Monday

Yep....one of the trio of site retards.

My guess is the Regina Welfare Queen.

Go fuck Howard, you fucking drain clog
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: 2scared2post on July 18, 2016, 06:04:13 PM
Yep....one of the trio of site retards.

My guess is the Regina Welfare Queen.

Go fuck Howard, you fucking drain clog

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Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Fallsview on July 18, 2016, 06:19:10 PM
Yep....one of the trio of site retards.

My guess is the Regina Welfare Queen.

Go fuck Howard, you fucking drain clog

What we know about Walt:

1. Pathetic loser that doesn't post on Tuesdays because its Bingo night.

2. SGT at Arms in the GetBig Gimmick Guard.

3. Contributes garbage like where his dad found his mom

4. Male pattern baldness.

5. Doesn't smoke cigars but smokes the dog.





GODSPEED.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 18, 2016, 06:20:56 PM
Question: Reading training articles, going to seminars and taking on a personal trainer. Does it help? I mean lets face it, if you want big arms you do curls, back-rows, chest-bench, etc. etc. It really isn't rocket science.


As a now long time natty (haven't used in 15 years) and older lifter, I have plateaued on a lot of lifts and frequently need to address the annoying stagnation. I'm always looking for new exercises and routines to get that "shock" or next day virgin soreness back  ;D. Yes, broscience too, but common sense tells me it's true. Variety is key with BB'ing.

BB'ing is a continually learning experience. How one responds optimally to training is personal, as we all have different mileage, backgrounds, and genetics. As Bruce Lee once said "absorb what is useful, discard what is useless".
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 18, 2016, 06:26:32 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlICk6JLljvlrX4tJIdh7hlTf2BtSzZgONl3_rEfCFxkt9KykK)

Mommy.....I'm awfwaid of aiwpwanes.

I wanna ride the bus home to Regina mommy.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: 2scared2post on July 18, 2016, 07:09:38 PM
Mommy.....I'm awfwaid of aiwpwanes.

I wanna ride the bus home to Regina mommy.

Haha, old people and the internet are hilourous.

Not as edgy as usual  :'(
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Erik C on July 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
So I'm Stuck At The Airport, Waiting For Them To Prep A Replacement Jet, For The One That Was Blowing Smoke Rings Out Of One Engine. So I Thought, Since The Signal Is Strong Here, I'll Post Some Useful Knowledge, To Replace The "Be There" Nonsense:

Training

Weights are there as tools to enable you to develop your muscles and sculpt your body.
(Among Many Other Body Building Options)

You can pick any exercises you choose be they compound or isolation exercises.

(As Long As You Do Compound Exercises Before You Do Isolation Exercises.)

As long as you work the muscle to failure it will respond with growth.

(Unless It Responds With Injury, From Doing Something As Stupid, As Going To Failure.)

It doesn’t matter how many days you choose to train your body will compensate and respond to the exercise and stress its put under.

(Your Body Will Respond With Injury, And/Or Plateauing, If Your Muscles Don't Get Enough Rest Time.)

Your muscle gains are defined by your genetic potential

(Genetics Is Only One Of Many Components Of Muscle Building Success.)

Natural and enhanced have differing limits but you have limits all the same.

( Limits Are In Your Mind, Not Your Body. As Henry Ford Said, "If You Think You Can Do Something, Or You Think You Can't Do Something, Then You're Probably Right.")

The function of a muscle is to move a limb in a certain direction, and to stimulate it you must work it with varying degrees under tension along its length.

(Many Muscles Move Limbs In More Than One Direction. Not Exercising It In All Its Various Functions, Leads To Over Development In One Direction.)

The muscle will respond to any exercise, there are none that are better than others.

(Some Exercises Are Greatly Superior To Other Exercises, And Some Are Completely Worthless. Doing Inferior Exercises, Hinders Your Growth.)

Diet

It all depends on your goals, at the end of the day, food is just fuel for your body.

(No. Food Is Also The Building Blocks Of The Human Body. Those Would Be Fats And Proteins. Carbs Only Build Body Fat.)

If you want to be a weightlifter and are not concerned with body composition then just eat as much as you can from the main food sources your definition of “getting to fat” is up to you.

(Eating Carbs, And Getting Fat Does Not Contribute To Strength.)

Forget about macros and calories, its irrelevant.

(It Is Extremely Relevant. Eating Carbs Just Makes You Fat, And Doesn't Make You Stronger.)

If you want to stay in shape and look good then you need to watch the mirror, again calories and macros don’t matter.

(Watching The Mirror Is Very Important, As Is Where Your Calories And Macros Are Coming From. Carbs Are Bad!)

Keep an eye on your abs and intercostals, if you cant see them eat less until you can.

(Keep An Eye On Your Abs And Intercostals, If You Can't See Them, Then Eat Less Carbs. Then You Will Be Able To See The Biceps Split Too. Lots Of Fat On Most Arms These Days. If Fat Counts For Muscle Size, Then The Fat Old Lady Down The Street From Me, Has Bigger Tris Than Anyone On Get Big.)

Eat a varied and balanced diet with no less than 100gms of protein a day.

(100 Grams Of Protein, Is Way To Little For Muscle Growth.)

OK That's Fixed! Now They're Telling Me Pop Up Storms Are In The Area. Shit.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: 2scared2post on July 18, 2016, 07:21:58 PM
So I'm Stuck At The Airport, Waiting For Them To Prep A Replacement Jet, For The One That Was Blowing Smoke Rings Out Of One Engine. So I Thought, Since The Signal Is Strong Here, I'll Post Some Useful Knowledge, To Replace The "Be There" Nonsense:

OK That's Fixed! Now They're Telling Me Pop Up Storms Are In The Area. Shit.

Can We Get Some Pictures Of The Results, Would Like To Compare Your Results with Be Theres.
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 18, 2016, 07:41:45 PM
Training

Weights are there as tools to enable you to develop your muscles and sculpt your body.

You can pick any exercises you choose be they compound or isolation exercises.

As long as you work the muscle to failure it will respond with growth.

It doesn’t matter how many days you choose to train your body will compensate and respond to the exercise and stress its put under.

Your muscle gains are defined by your genetic potential

Natural and enhanced have differing limits but you have limits all the same.

The function of a muscle is to move a limb in a certain direction, and to stimulate it you must work it with varying degrees under tension along its length.

The muscle will respond to any exercise, there are none that are better than others.

Diet

It all depends on your goals, at the end of the day, food is just fuel for your body.

If you want to be a weightlifter and are not concerned with body composition then just eat as much as you can from the main food sources your definition of “getting to fat” is up to you.

Forget about macros and calories, its irrelevant.

If you want to stay in shape and look good then you need to watch the mirror, again calories and macros don’t matter.

Keep an eye on your abs and intercostals, if you cant see them eat less until you can.

Eat a varied and balanced diet with no less than 100gms of protein a day.
I disagree with a few points.

I don't think you need 100 grams of protein a day even.  I go for long stretches of time not going over 100 grams and I look the same, same strength, same everything as I do when I eat more protein.  I must conclude 100 grams for me is pointless and to just eat whatever I want.

Next, calories are THE only thing that matters.  True, you do not have to track them, but it makes it easier to do so.  You will also get the benefit of being able to eat AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO YOUR LIMIT and still be in a deficit. I don't know about you, but I want to eat as many calories as possible when in a deficit and I want progress in a defecit to be fast and efficient.  Checking the mirror is willy nilly and you can look totally like shit just from not drinking enough water or having too much water and not peeing frequent enough.  That could fool most morons into thinking they are getting fat and what not.

Your approach will work of course, but I LOVE FOOD.  If you don't love food, like most on here, then fine, it won't matter. 
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 18, 2016, 08:40:34 PM
Question: Reading training articles, going to seminars and taking on a personal trainer. Does it help? I mean lets face it, if you want big arms you do curls, back-rows, chest-bench, etc. etc. It really isn't rocket science.

When one goes to a seminar given by some bodybuilder its practically useless. What do you actually think you're going to find out that no one else knows? They will never drop the Bodybuilding Kayfabe altogether. They actually think these bodybuilders are going to discuss their REAL doses of compounds? Yeah right, if you only knew what these guys took you'd be ragging on them like you do Bostin Loyd so they will never let out the real dosages.  So why do these people go? Is it just idol worship?

Training articles are worthless. You have to be in a gym for sometime to figure out what works for you. And by that time, why would you want to waste your time reading some article ghost written by some nobody.

Personal trainer? Why? Only if that person is cooking pharma that is worth it. If you've been in the game for years there is no need to have someone motivate and train you. In fact, I find working out with people annoying. Forced reps are basically just a lot of bullshit. You don't need them. You only see people doing them to look like the PRO's and bring the whole attention of the gym on them when they are screaming and moaning.





MAKE GETBIG GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Make it a point to go to at least 3-4 seminars, conventions, symposiums per year. I always take something away from it. (All NOT bodybuilding related)
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 20, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
I disagree with a few points.

I don't think you need 100 grams of protein a day even.  I go for long stretches of time not going over 100 grams and I look the same, same strength, same everything as I do when I eat more protein.  I must conclude 100 grams for me is pointless and to just eat whatever I want.

Next, calories are THE only thing that matters.  True, you do not have to track them, but it makes it easier to do so.  You will also get the benefit of being able to eat AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO YOUR LIMIT and still be in a deficit. I don't know about you, but I want to eat as many calories as possible when in a deficit and I want progress in a defecit to be fast and efficient.  Checking the mirror is willy nilly and you can look totally like shit just from not drinking enough water or having too much water and not peeing frequent enough.  That could fool most morons into thinking they are getting fat and what not.

Your approach will work of course, but I LOVE FOOD.  If you don't love food, like most on here, then fine, it won't matter. 
You are partly right, TA.
If you try to loose fat, you should have a large % of protein in your diet. If that isn't the issue, means you're bulking, calories are the thing and getting over 100 grams of protein a day is of course no problem....so one does not have to focus on that, in fact just train hard and over-eat a bit.....
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on July 20, 2016, 12:44:31 PM
doesn't anyone workout anymore simply because they enjoy it?
Title: Re: Is There Anything Else With Training You Can Learn?
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 20, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
doesn't anyone workout anymore simply because they enjoy it?
Certainly !  Good point.  I still enjoy dropping on the floor after an all-out set of deads.  8)