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Just for contest prep alone.
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I don't want to listen to it so I don't know the doses but it was, and is, real
expensive at pharmacy prices so you could pretty easily blow through 55K.
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That's not really a whole lot in the world of pharmaceutical name brand growth hormone.
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This is all great info and worth listening to if you are taking gh, insulin or both.
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Yes but if he timed his GABA supplements and dextrose post-workout he could have achieved the same results if he had the dedication.
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Romano has been around forever but he's just not very smart, doesn't know
much at all about drugs. Palumbo is smarter but plenty of baloney from him too.
Get blood work before you take insulin or T3 says Romano, to see if you need it. How about you test your testosterone and trenbolone levels too to see if you need it. Or test your GH to see if you are low ::) :D
You take these things to supercharge the system so to speak, not necessarily to adress a deficiency.
Nasser said Palumbo was on 12-15 Cytomel a day, maybe that's why he couldn't gain weight, not because the 2iu of GH was revving his metabolism so much. :D
Then again, Nasser liked to tell tall tales, so who knows. :D
Palumbo says T3 is not to be used off season. But as a matter of fact some of the very top trainers put T3 in every off season cycle. Hell, even Arnold's doc put all the bodybuilders on thyroid back in the day. Someone here who was a patient of his in California talked about it.
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Romano has been around forever but he's just not very smart, doesn't know
much at all about drugs. Palumbo is smarter but plenty of baloney from him too.
Get blood work before you take insulin or T3 says Romano, to see if you need it. How about you test your testosterone and trenbolone levels too to see if you need it. Or test your GH to see if you are low ::) :D
You take these things to supercharge the system so to speak, not necessarily to adress a deficiency.
Nasser said Palumbo was on 12-15 Cytomel a day, maybe that's why he couldn't gain weight, not because the 2iu of GH was revving his metabolism so much. :D
Then again, Nasser liked to tell tall tales, so who knows. :D
If bodybuilders used less gh and insulin we would see less of these Christy Creme glazed donut looking physiques.
Up the tren, t3 and clenbuterol. :D
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If bodybuilders used less gh and insulin we would see less of these Christy Creme glazed donut looking physiques.
Up the tren, t3 and clenbuterol. :D
Sure, though I think the real problem is concern with the scale and wanting to stay "full" all the time. Just eating too damn much basically. To achieve crazy conditioning you may have to be ready to potentially lose a little bit of size and fullness.
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Sure, though I think the real problem is concern with the scale and wanting to stay "full" all the time. Just eating too damn much basically. To achieve crazy conditioning you may have to be ready to potentially lose a little bit of size and fullness.
When I was powerlifting none of the bodybuilders I trained with ate how they do today from a volume perspective. They all seemed to diet on tuna and suffered big time.
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When I was powerlifting none of the bodybuilders I trained with ate how they do today from a volume perspective. They all seemed to diet on tuna and suffered big time.
Exactly. Now it's all about "staying full" all the time. More food means more muscle but some that size could be sacrifized to look even better, because IMO size while being a little off just isn't worth it, even today from a competitive point of view. Extra conditioning is almost always worth it.
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When I was powerlifting none of the bodybuilders I trained with ate how they do today from a volume perspective. They all seemed to diet on tuna and suffered big time.
mr white i have a copy of mike mentzers training journal , for the 1979 mr olympia he ate no more than 1500 calories per day and whent as low as 700
would you agree that the pros today are on so much drugs they really dont have to diet hard and suffer i mean eating 4k a day for a pre contest diet isnt suffering at all.
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Exactly. Now it's all about "staying full" all the time. More food means more muscle but some that size could be sacrifized to look even better, because IMO size while being a little off just isn't worth it, even today from a competitive point of view. Extra conditioning is almost always worth it.
It's all about how you look on stage under the lights and conditioning contributes to that in a huge way.
mr white i have a copy of mike mentzers training journal , for the 1979 mr olympia he ate no more than 1500 calories per day and whent as low as 700
would you agree that the pros today are on so much drugs they really dont have to diet hard and suffer i mean eating 4k a day for a pre contest diet isnt suffering at all.
Actually I think they make their prep harder with all the drugs and force feeding. This is a buddy of mine from the 84 USA's and I know exactly what he took and ate during prep. It was a lot simpler and did not include gh or insulin.
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Who is that? Looks a bit like Gary Leonard- it's not. And a bit like Jon Loyd- it's not. Who is that?
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Who is that? Looks a bit like Gary Leonard- it's not. And a bit like Jon Loyd- it's not. Who is that?
Gary Loyd
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Gary Loyd
now that's actually pretty damned funny
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It would be a lot cheaper if they actually trained, dieted and looked like actual Bodybuilders.
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The real cost is their liver, kidney, and heart being taxed like a common street drug addict.
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Gary Loyd
;D
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Gary Loyd
;D Excellent my friend.
Now... Who the hell is that guy?
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;D Excellent my friend.
Now... Who the hell is that guy?
Greg Pappas from Boston. He's has always been a PT and regularly works with MMA fighters like Joe Lauzon.
I think he was 23 here.
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Greg Pappas from Boston. He's has always been a PT and regularly works with MMA fighters like Joe Lauzon.
I think he was 23 here.
Pretty sure that's a young Tommy Hopkins.
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So that competitor spent more on drugs than he could ever win in prize money? Seems like a smart guy :-)
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It's all about how you look on stage under the lights and conditioning contributes to that in a huge way.
Actually I think they make their prep harder with all the drugs and force feeding. This is a buddy of mine from the 84 USA's and I know exactly what he took and ate during prep. It was a lot simpler and did not include gh or insulin.
mr white that makes sense i could not imagine eating 4k a day in claories, man i wouldnt be able to move
i read hugh jackman said the real reason he does not want to play wolverine anymore is he cannot stand eating that much when geting
ready for wolverine roles. said he hates eating that much.
also mr white do you think the pros today hate it that they have to go to the middle east and screw smelly arabs to get money to pay for there
drugs, i bet big ramy cant even sit down half the time after those smelly arab schmoes are done with him
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The only reason they spent $55K on GH was because they couldn't tell the difference between the real stuff and Palumbo's water
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mr white that makes sense i could not imagine eating 4k a day in claories, man i wouldnt be able to move
i read hugh jackman said the real reason he does not want to play wolverine anymore is he cannot stand eating that much when geting
ready for wolverine roles. said he hates eating that much.
also mr white do you think the pros today hate it that they have to go to the middle east and screw smelly arabs to get money to pay for there
drugs, i bet big ramy cant even sit down half the time after those smelly arab schmoes are done with him
You must be huge then....
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mr white that makes sense i could not imagine eating 4k a day in claories, man i wouldnt be able to move
i read hugh jackman said the real reason he does not want to play wolverine anymore is he cannot stand eating that much when geting
ready for wolverine roles. said he hates eating that much.
also mr white do you think the pros today hate it that they have to go to the middle east and screw smelly arabs to get money to pay for there
drugs, i bet big ramy cant even sit down half the time after those smelly arab schmoes are done with him
I don't know what Jackman claimed as his diet but I'm sure the calories were real low. But many of those trainers believe on things like dry chicken and asparagus so the volume is huge, lots of chewing.
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Greg Pappas from Boston. He's has always been a PT and regularly works with MMA fighters like Joe Lauzon.
I think he was 23 here.
Hmm? Interesting. I can't place that name. Oh well, I'm older than most trees.
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I wouldnt read into much about hugh jackman "force feeding" to be what, about 170lbs? ::) Privileged hollywooder.
Didnt he also say he had to train for 10 years to deadlift 300lbs or something too :-X :-\
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Hmm? Interesting. I can't place that name. Oh well, I'm older than most trees.
Tommy, in the video Romano said Alzado died of mad cow disease from Crescormon and no way was Alzado gay, that he didn't die from a gay related disease. Palumbo said he heard from gays in Venice that Alzado was gay but Romano said it was BS. What do you think?
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Well... it was a well circulated rumor, told and retold by fairly well known (in those circles) gay bodybuilders, that he was HIV positive.
I will say that visually, all his symptoms appeared to be HIV related.
Dude LOVED to party and use PED's and recreational drugs.
If I had to bet $20... I would bet he was HIV positive and died from complications from AIDS.
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For some reason, Mr Romano reminds me of Cecil the Looney Tunes Turtle...
(http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/thumbs/cecil-turtle-looney-tunes-reality-check-3.86_thumb.jpg)
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Romano can be so fucking annoying and pretentious at times. Usually I don't really mind him all that much but good lord I couldn't take him anymore by the end of this video.
Just a couple of old timers lamenting on how their era was better AND they did it on less drugs. Which I call absolute bullshit on as well ::) ::)
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Was the information about Beyeke and Rockel being type 2 diabetics public knowledge? Anyone aware of any more in this position?
Back in the olden days all we worried about like this was becoming dependent on thyroid meds...
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Hmm? Interesting. I can't place that name. Oh well, I'm older than most trees.
Ha I'm with you on the tree thing. :D He won the Mr MA but was not huge on the national scene. No social media back then so not a lot of pics floating around.
He had huge quads and was thick from heavy compound movements.
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Ha I'm with you on the tree thing. :D He won the Mr MA but was not huge on the national scene. No social media back then so not a lot of pics floating around.
He had huge quads and was thick from heavy compound movements.
what was his diet and aas supplements stack then?
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More to the point who was the pro in question, I was in venice during the same time, I have it as Flex, he was top 5, him and Romano were buddies, Chris and Paul didn't have the same level of income and were well known for not paying the main man who took care of everyone, so much so Dillet got cut off one year and just from that source being cut off his placings dropped the following year and it wasn't politics, cheaper chinese growth had him water logged and the usual last few days prep didn't work as well.
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what was his diet and aas supplements stack then?
Keep in mind there was no internet and guys worked full time jobs or went to school. They ate eggs, oatmeal, wheat bread, ground beef/burgers, skim milk, chicken, tuna, lots of peanut butter, canned veggies and streaks if they could afford them. Keep in mind many workplaces did not have refrigerators so guys often brought cans of tuna and regular turkey/cheese sandwiches. As contests neared they switched mainly to tuna mixed with mustard and chicken breasts. This was a long time ago so this is what I remember.
Gear was the usual suspects; Deca (very popular), d bol, winstrol tabs, anavar, Eq, test and primo. As a contest neared they might cut deca and run just primo, winstrol and anavar. It was all pharma grade and as Wes can attest to the Dbol was awesome and eq was straight from the vet. :D
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More to the point who was the pro in question, I was in venice during the same time, I have it as Flex, he was top 5, him and Romano were buddies, Chris and Paul didn't have the same level of income and were well known for not paying the main man who took care of everyone, so much so Dillet got cut off one year and just from that source being cut off his placings dropped the following year and it wasn't politics, cheaper chinese growth had him water logged and the usual last few days prep didn't work as well.
Lee claimed Paul only use 2cc of winstrol twice weekly. How could Paul not afford that?
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So there is no need to go higher that 4 IU pharma GH? That will save me some buck. :)
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Keep in mind there was no internet and guys worked full time jobs or went to school. They ate eggs, oatmeal, wheat bread, ground beef/burgers, skim milk, chicken, tuna, lots of peanut butter, canned veggies and streaks if they could afford them. Keep in mind many workplaces did not have refrigerators so guys often brought cans of tuna and regular turkey/cheese sandwiches. As contests neared they switched mainly to tuna mixed with mustard and chicken breasts. This was a long time ago so this is what I remember.
Gear was the usual suspects; Deca (very popular), d bol, winstrol tabs, anavar, Eq, test and primo. As a contest neared they might cut deca and run just primo, winstrol and anavar. It was all pharma grade and as Wes can attest to the Dbol was awesome and eq was straight from the vet. :D
props bro. so it was like the arnold era style of doing things.
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So there is no need to go higher that 4 IU pharma GH? That will save me some buck. :)
As long as it's pharma grade, I can believe it. Chinese stuff I wouldn't know what to guess.
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As long as it's pharma grade, I can believe it. Chinese stuff I wouldn't know what to guess.
Yes, I am using Genos by Pfizer.
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Well... it was a well circulated rumor, told and retold by fairly well known (in those circles) gay bodybuilders, that he was HIV positive.
I will say that visually, all his symptoms appeared to be HIV related.
Dude LOVED to party and use PED's and recreational drugs.
If I had to bet $20... I would bet he was HIV positive and died from complications from AIDS.
:D
(https://www.focusperformance.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/lou-ferrigno.jpeg)
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As long as it's pharma grade, I can believe it. Chinese stuff I wouldn't know what to guess.
It also depends on age. The older you are the less your body produces.
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at the end of the day, it's all worth it.... ;)
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Keep in mind there was no internet and guys worked full time jobs or went to school. They ate eggs, oatmeal, wheat bread, ground beef/burgers, skim milk, chicken, tuna, lots of peanut butter, canned veggies and streaks if they could afford them. Keep in mind many workplaces did not have refrigerators so guys often brought cans of tuna and regular turkey/cheese sandwiches. As contests neared they switched mainly to tuna mixed with mustard and chicken breasts. This was a long time ago so this is what I remember.
Gear was the usual suspects; Deca (very popular), d bol, winstrol tabs, anavar, Eq, test and primo. As a contest neared they might cut deca and run just primo, winstrol and anavar. It was all pharma grade and as Wes can attest to the Dbol was awesome and eq was straight from the vet. :D
I just remember the guys/girls competing back in the 80's to 90's that I saw around and chatted/hung out with were essentially living on tuna, chicken breast and salad the last month or 2 before they would compete and were as energetic as a sloth and about as weak as a newborn kitten by that point. They really did suffer to get in shape back then, not sure about now. Personally I liked the look of male/female bodybuilders pre 1991 the most(50's to 1991 in various forms), but have to admit I was impressed by the physiques of the 90's although it seems that was the start of the era where health really took a major turn for the worse from that point.
I mean look at the national/us champs from through the 90's and the health stuff that has happened in comparison to the guys from the 60's to the early 90's.