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I'm new to TRT.
doc prescribed 2 shots of sustanon per month.
that's it.
was wondering what to expect and if this is okay.
any input would be appreciated.
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I'm new to TRT.
doc prescribed 2 shots of sustanon per month.
that's it.
was wondering what to expect and if this is okay.
any input would be appreciated.
if its sustain 250 then you could split up each shot into 2 and then take 1 shot a week
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You're likely going to need an aromatase inhibitor.
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Since when was sustanon prescribed by a HRt doc?
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You're likely going to need an aromatase inhibitor.
tx for the response.
sounds about right. waterretention etc. is becomming a concern.
what would you suggest ? arimidex ?
also, to me it sounds like common sense to include clomifen/HCG eg once a year/two years and comming off HRT to avoid shutting down too long. is this common in HRT ?
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tx for the response.
sounds about right. waterretention etc. is becomming a concern.
what would you suggest ? arimidex ?
also, to me it sounds like common sense to include clomifen/HCG eg once a year/two years and comming off HRT to avoid shutting down too long. is this common in HRT ?
Yes, Arimidex. I am guessing you will need at least 1.5mg of adex a week, but the only way to get your dosing right is to check your estradiol with a blood test. HRT is for life. HCG is not necessary to use along with HRT. Some say it has benefits but that is up to you and for you to explore. If you want kids in the future stop test and use 3000iu of hcg m/w/f and you will restore your ability to have kids if you were able to have kids prior to starting HRT.
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Yes, Arimidex. I am guessing you will need at least 1.5mg of adex a week, but the only way to get your dosing right is to check your estradiol with a blood test. HRT is for life. HCG is not necessary to use along with HRT. Some say it has benefits but that is up to you and for you to explore. If you want kids in the future stop test and use 3000iu of hcg m/w/f and you will restore your ability to have kids if you were able to have kids prior to starting HRT.
no nolvadex then ? - and would lasix be of any help ?
thanks, makes sense.
is there any reading up i can do on HRT ?
i'm guessing with it's esthers sustanon may not be the best option either ?
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no nolvadex then ? - and would lasix be of any help ?
thanks, makes sense.
is there any reading up i can do on HRT ?
i'm guessing with it's esthers sustanon may not be the best option either ?
Nolva is not necessary. Adex will alleviate the bloat. I prefer test e for hrt
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tx a lot. sound advice.
any recommended reading ? anyone ?
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I'm new to TRT.
doc prescribed 2 shots of sustanon per month.
that's it.
was wondering what to expect and if this is okay.
any input would be appreciated.
Pretty sure sustanon was designed specifically for hrt once a month, as the esters were specifically chosen to cover optimal levels over that time frame.
I have no idea why people are telling you to run arimidex as your going to be in the normal range of test presumably and that test is supposed to convert to estrogen necessary for normal bodily function.
Unless you experience adverse side effects upon starting theres no need to take anything your doctor hasnt prescribed, and any side effects should again be reported to and dealt with by your doctor.
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Pretty sure sustanon was designed specifically for hrt once a month, as the esters were specifically chosen to cover optimal levels over that time frame.
I have no idea why people are telling you to run arimidex as your going to be in the normal range of test presumably and that test is supposed to convert to estrogen necessary for normal bodily function.
Unless you experience adverse side effects upon starting theres no need to take anything your doctor hasnt prescribed, and any side effects should again be reported to and dealt with by your doctor.
taking 500mg of test a monthly and you're suggesting not using an an AI? Op I would not take advice from this guy. Test e would be just as good as sus with zero pip.
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I can take 500 mg of test monthly and my estradiol is in normal range. It's individual, if I take 0.5 mg of adex twice per week it crashes my estradiol. In turn, sex drive crashes, HDL tanks, mood goes to shit, lethargic, etc. No need for an AI unless absolutely needed. As far as gyno, I never get it no matter what I use.
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On 500mg your estradiol is between 20-30? I would like to see that on your blood test results.
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On 500mg your estradiol is between 20-30? I would like to see that on your blood test results.
He's on 500 monthly not weekly
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500 monthly = correct. age 40, decent shape.
water retention, nipple sensitivity etc. are issues of concern.
therefore arimidex sounds like sound advice.
bloodwork has been done, don't have the results on hand though (in doc's hands).
nothing else ?
stay on and get yearly bloodwork done + PSA of course then ...
hate to repeat but is there required reading ??
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This is approximately what blood levels of sustanon 250 injected every two weeks looks like
(https://s31.postimg.org/jxq3gr87v/sust.jpg)
A big spike and then most of the testosterone is out of the system after the first week.
Sustanon needs to be injected at least weekly.
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This is approximately what blood levels of sustanon 250 injected every two weeks looks like
(https://s31.postimg.org/jxq3gr87v/sust.jpg)
A big spike and then most of the testosterone is out of the system after the first week.
Sustanon needs to be injected at least weekly.
the exact purpose of sustanon is to avoid weekly injections, that's what the esters are for.
are there any must reads on HRT ??
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I like sust every other day or mwf for blast cycle. Try to cruise on it 250mg weekly do not like it for that purpose. After a while u realize the spike of the test level and the taper in your moods/behavior. May not be as noticeable on Avg of 125mg weekly.
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taking 500mg of test a monthly and you're suggesting not using an an AI? Op I would not take advice from this guy. Test e would be just as good as sus with zero pip.
Telling someone to follow the protocol presented to them by a medical professional that has access to his records is bad advice?
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The doctor is right. Those are the dosages for trt purposes. Asking him to change the sustanon for a cypionate or enantathe. Testosterone levels will be more stable.
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Telling someone to follow the protocol presented to them by a medical professional that has access to his records is bad advice?
No, he just needs to inquire about using Adex.
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Since when was sustanon prescribed by a HRt doc?
I was wondering the same thing.
"Sustanon 250 is a popular testosterone blend (mixture) and is without question the most popular and well known blend ever made. Manufactured by Organon, the idea behind Sustanon 250 was to provide the best of small (short) and large (long) ester testosterones in a single compound. This would allow the individual to maintain stable blood levels of the testosterone hormone with an infrequent injection schedule while simultaneously receiving fast acting benefits.
In a therapeutic setting to treat low testosterone, Sustanon 250 doses will normally fall in the 250mg every 3-4 week range with one injection every 3 weeks being most common. The total duration of treatment is indefinite. Low testosterone normally needs to be treated for life. We can remedy the problem but it will in most cases require continual treatment." https://www.steroid.com/Sustanon-250.php (https://www.steroid.com/Sustanon-250.php)
"Like most forms of testosterone in the US and North America, it is only legal to buy Sustanon with a prescription from your doctor. Due to its long-estered formula, many physicians actually prefer it to other versions of the hormone because it requires fewer office visits and more convenience. As such, it is often easier to find this product in the underground market simply because it is widely available. On the other hand, the purchase, possession, and use of Sustanon are illegal without a prescription. Before you start looking for Sustanon for sale, make sure you understand the potential legal implications." http://anabolic.co/steroids/sustanon/
(http://anabolic.co/steroids/sustanon/)
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it is quite commonly used for HRT purposes i think.
i'll ask the doc about arimidex.
anyone have any required reading ??
how does the combo with HCG work by the way ???
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It's mainstream BS but there may be some educational value in it.
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it is quite commonly used for HRT purposes i think.
i'll ask the doc about arimidex.
anyone have any required reading ??
how does the combo with HCG work by the way ???
That's the regime I'm on and it seems good. No problems.
Check out this website: http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html (http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html)
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Arimidex causes Cholesterol issues.
I'd switch to Femera. Works better & less sides.
My Dr prescribed HRT is 200mg a week & I add in 1/4 tab femera 2x a week.
No issues at all. Blood tests are perfect, I'm around 220lbs at about 12% when on HRT.
When I blast, I go to 500 test, 300 deca, 20 dbol & 5iu GH & get up to 240-245 at just under 10%.
HRT is truly a beautiful thing for anyone over 350 imo.
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That's the regime I'm on and it seems good. No problems.
Check out this website: http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html (http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html)
tx prime, looks like what i was looking for ;D
considering you're on the same regime, do you use HCG if so how exactly ?
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tx prime, looks like what i was looking for ;D
considering you're on the same regime, do you use HCG if so how exactly ?
Some use hcg on, they do 250 units biweekly
However, HRt is lifelong so why would you need hcg?
Also, the more I read on HRt, it can actually improve health, although I'm not 100% convinced.
Case in point, my HRt doc died from a clot to his lungs...
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tx prime, looks like what i was looking for ;D
considering you're on the same regime, do you use HCG if so how exactly ?
I inject 250 mg HCG on Saturday and again on Sunday using an insulin syringe and injecting into my ab muscles within 6 inches of your navel.
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Some use hcg on, they do 250 units biweekly
However, HRt is lifelong so why would you need hcg?
Cosmetic reasons and LH levels or so i am gold
Prime, why split up in two ?
Tx for the help guys
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Some use hcg on, they do 250 units biweekly
However, HRt is lifelong so why would you need hcg?
Also, the more I read on HRt, it can actually improve health, although I'm not 100% convinced.
Case in point, my HRt doc died from a clot to his lungs...
There is a saying that goes, "doctors make the worst patients." He should have been having his blood viscosity tested. A high red blood cell count indicates there could be problems, like blood clots.
HRT has been know to decommission your nuts. Supposedly, HCG keeps them functional and normal sized.
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Prime, why split up in two ?
Good question. I inject each of the two days prior to the test injection per Dr. Cristler recommendation.
"My HCG protocol is to use 250IU of HCG two days before, and one day before,
their testosterone cypionate IM injection. Androgel users take it every three
days. The HCG is injected with an insulin needle, subQ within 6 inches of the
navel."
http://www.allthingsmale.com/pdfs/instructions/USE_HCG_10000.pdf
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that would make my TRT something like this:
week 1:
sustanon 250
2 x 250 HCG
1,5 mg Arimidex
week 2:
1,5 mg Arimidex
week 3:
sustanon 250
2 x 250 HCG
1,5 mg Arimidex
week 4:
1,5 mg Arimidex
repeat ad infinitem.
correct ?
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Use half an ampule every 5 days subcutaneously with an insulin needle, reverse load the oil, use the skin on the upper thigh, its a less painful shot results in less bloat and more stable levels, using a full dose a fortnight just gives you higher than normal levels for a few days before slowly crashing, personally i would use enanthate over a blend but the 5 days will help with the blend, i have used previously and have been able to get 7-10 days between shots the goal at our age should be to get the benefits on as less as possible, just my two cents
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that would make my TRT something like this:
week 1:
sustanon 250
2 x 250 HCG
1,5 mg Arimidex
week 2:
1,5 mg Arimidex
week 3:
sustanon 250
2 x 250 HCG
1,5 mg Arimidex
week 4:
1,5 mg Arimidex
repeat ad infinitem.
correct ?
Pretty much. Adjust the Arimidex as needed. If your getting morning wood, you've found your sweet spot. If not, lower the Arimidex dosage and see what happens
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tx a bunch.
femera sounds like a plan or is it ?
blasting on TRT, what about HCG/Arimidex then ?