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Title: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
I don't want to make this a natural or steroid bashing hysteria thread.
BUT, it seems to me a lot of my fellow meathedz take some silly health risks to gain muscle.

I just got back from the dentist and had a permanent crown put on ( back left molar).
It went well, but reminded me, how much of a pain in the ass it is, to get medical procedures.
For example, a few years ago I tore my Achilles tendon and had surgery to get it reattached.
The doc was great, but the lengthy recovery process sucked ass.

I never want to go under a surgeons knife again or endure some serious medical procedure again.
I'm perfectly happy now , walking on a gym treadmill and lifting on (mostly) Hammer machines.
Ronnie Coleman was incredible, but seeing him endure painful , hip and joint surgeries makes me cringe.

Along with the health risks is the $$$ pissed away on various potions and drugs.
I trained with an old gym bro, who took out a 2nd mortgage to fund his drug cycles for national contests.
He did ok, but missed turning pro and left competing feeling bitter.
Most thought he was hardcore ,but I secretly thought he was a dumb ass for doing it.

Over the past 15-20 years, I've wondered IF I should have given more to bodybuilding.
Today, I reflect back and am pleased I did it mostly on my own terms with few long term regrets.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Disgusted on July 25, 2016, 01:54:50 PM
Did you take your Lithium?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Coffeed on July 25, 2016, 01:58:26 PM
There's nothing idiotic or shameful about wanting to pack as much muscle as possible onto your frame, whatever it takes.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 25, 2016, 01:58:42 PM
how many more times will you make this thread in the remainder of your life?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 25, 2016, 02:01:09 PM
Have you ever taken steroids?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 25, 2016, 02:02:26 PM
Have you ever taken steroids?
i also questioned him, based on his retarded posts

then he posted a pic where he looked like mike mentzer

boom

unbelievable
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 25, 2016, 02:31:00 PM


Over the past 15-20 years, I've wondered IF I should have given more to bodybuilding.
Today, I reflect back and am pleased I did it mostly on my own terms with few long term regrets.

Your thoughts?

You are NOT pleased. You know you were a pussy. If you were satisfied you wouldn't have made this exact post dozens of times.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
Get a tattoo which features your nipples as cherry blossoms.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 25, 2016, 02:38:12 PM
You are NOT pleased. You know you were a pussy. If you were satisfied you wouldn't have made this exact post dozens of times.
it's what i'm thinking as well

it's also funny that he mentions ronnie coleman, as if he would have been on that level, had he pushed it to the limit :D ;D
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Rudee on July 25, 2016, 02:40:41 PM
I went into the walk-in clinic near my house a week ago to get a prescription refill for seasonal allergy meds, which I rely on this time of year.  Seated on a chair in the waiting room was a guy I hadn't seen in at least 15 years. He was a former bouncer of a popular night club here in Calgary in the mid 90's.  The same night club where Milos's ex wife Milimar worked as a bartender prior to meeting Milos and moving to California.  This guy was once a huge imposing physical specimen.  He was built like the Hulk. At one time, he was the highest paid bouncer in the city. Now, in his mid to late 40's, his body is completely shot from the years of super-heavy lifting and ingesting every drug he could get his hands on to get bigger.  The muscle is all gone now. Every bit of it. And so is much of the cartilage in his hips and knee joints.  He now walks with the aide of a cane. He's a fragile shell of his former intimidating self. A child could tip him over with the touch of a finger. Watching him take 15 seconds just to get up out of a chair as he left was painful to watch.  He was never the sharpest tool in the shed,  so I have my doubts if he would have done things differently if he could go back in time and do so.  
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: calfzilla on July 25, 2016, 02:46:56 PM
What the hell, someone ban Howard the Cuck.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 03:33:14 PM
There's nothing idiotic or shameful about wanting to pack as much muscle as possible onto your frame, whatever it takes.

I agree and have been a bodybuilder for longer then mot here have been alive.
But seriously, once you have some impressive mass, what then?

Unless you're a top pro, you still have the same job, gf, home, car, etc.
Eventually you might need to $$ for something ? What's the point in taking risks for something that doesn't have much lasting value?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
i also questioned him, based on his retarded posts

then he posted a pic where he looked like mike mentzer

boom

unbelievable

I dabbled in moderate cycles for a few years in the mid 1980's.
The old 'stauch pic was from the 1988 Jr USA.
I was nothing great, but at least I looked the part when I got on stage.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 03:37:37 PM
it's what i'm thinking as well

it's also funny that he mentions ronnie coleman, as if he would have been on that level, had he pushed it to the limit :D ;D

LOL, good one.  Coleman was one of the all time greatest bodybuilders and biggest freakazoid in history.
I was a semi-wannabee/never was , who barely won a few Mr Podunks...big difference.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 03:39:05 PM
I went into the walk-in clinic near my house a week ago to get a prescription refill for seasonal allergy meds, which I rely on this time of year.  Seated on a chair in the waiting room was a guy I hadn't seen in at least 15 years. He was a former bouncer of a popular night club here in Calgary in the mid 90's.  The same night club where Milos's ex wife Milimar worked as a bartender prior to meeting Milos and moving to California.  This guy was once a huge imposing physical specimen.  He was built like the Hulk. At one time, he was the highest paid bouncer in the city. Now, in his mid to late 40's, his body is completely shot from the years of super-heavy lifting and ingesting every drug he could get his hands on to get bigger.  The muscle is all gone now. Every bit of it. And so is a much of the cartilage in his hips and knee joints.  He now walks with the aide of a cain. He's a fragile shell of his former intimidating self. A child could tip him over with the touch of a finger. Watching him take 15 seconds just to get up out of a chair as he left was painful to watch.  He was never the sharpest tool in the shed,  so I have my doubts if he would have done things differently if he could go back in time and do so.  

Great story that illustrates my main point. Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 03:42:51 PM
You are NOT pleased. You know you were a pussy. If you were satisfied you wouldn't have made this exact post dozens of times.
Hardly. Sometimes it takes more courage to ignore the status quo.
Despite my self-deprecating humor and piss poor jokes, I'm the most happy and content I've ever been.
I made peace with the truth that I was never going to be a great bodybuilder long ago.

I accepted that bodybuilding needed to be a fun hobby and I'd compete on my own terms.
Besides, anything I was going to do in the sport wasn't going to matter regardless of what I tried.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: epic_alien on July 25, 2016, 03:45:20 PM
I agree and have been a bodybuilder for longer then mot here have been alive.
But seriously, once you have some impressive mass, what then?

Unless you're a top pro, you still have the same job, gf, home, car, etc.
Eventually you might need to $$ for something ? What's the point in taking risks for something that doesn't have much lasting value?

the value is called fulfillment. and is worth it to most who seek it.  and as I'm sure you know from your posts , being unfulfilled is far worse than wasting money going after your goals.

whats worse, regretting wasting money going after goals, or not have even tried and feeling the unfulfillment?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on July 25, 2016, 03:58:51 PM
I don't want to make this a natural or steroid bashing hysteria thread.
BUT, it seems to me a lot of my fellow meathedz take some silly health risks to gain muscle.

I just got back from the dentist and had a permanent crown put on ( back left molar).
It went well, but reminded me, how much of a pain in the ass it is, to get medical procedures.
For example, a few years ago I tore my Achilles tendon and had surgery to get it reattached.
The doc was great, but the lengthy recovery process sucked ass.

I never want to go under a surgeons knife again or endure some serious medical procedure again.
I'm perfectly happy now , walking on a gym treadmill and lifting on (mostly) Hammer machines.
Ronnie Coleman was incredible, but seeing him endure painful , hip and joint surgeries makes me cringe.

Along with the health risks is the $$$ pissed away on various potions and drugs.
I trained with an old gym bro, who took out a 2nd mortgage to fund his drug cycles for national contests.
He did ok, but missed turning pro and left competing feeling bitter.
Most thought he was hardcore ,but I secretly thought he was a dumb ass for doing it.

Over the past 15-20 years, I've wondered IF I should have given more to bodybuilding.
Today, I reflect back and am pleased I did it mostly on my own terms with few long term regrets.

Your thoughts?

You are just an old man who did not have what it takes to pursue a pro card, we are all going to die one day at least ronnie and those guys will die with the satisfaction that they did whatever it took and they achieved their goals.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 25, 2016, 04:10:40 PM
You are just an old man who did not have what it takes to pursue a pro card, we are all going to die one day at least ronnie and those guys will die with the satisfaction that they did whatever it took and they achieved their goals.

1. Yup, I'm a older guy now and lacked the basic talent for a bodybuilding pro card. I often say that myself.

2. You're right, Ronnie was great and he may have few regrets. I'm sure some others are glad they went balls to wall in the pursuit of mass at all costs.

3. I can't speak for others, but, I did post my honest personal feelings on this issue.
Too often we read endless posts that  use extreme measure for the glory of more muscle mass.

I'm simply pointing out an obvious point here. For the vast majority who try to build muscle, they could make 80-90% the same gains with a lot less hassle, $$ and health risks. Is that extra few % really worth it?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 25, 2016, 04:31:44 PM
Hardly. Sometimes it takes more courage to ignore the status quo.
Despite my self-deprecating humor and piss poor jokes, I'm the most happy and content I've ever been.
I made peace with the truth that I was never going to be a great bodybuilder long ago.

I accepted that bodybuilding needed to be a fun hobby and I'd compete on my own terms.
Besides, anything I was going to do in the sport wasn't going to matter regardless of what I tried.

You said you wondered "what if" for 20 years. That's a lot of wondering. Maybe you are at peace now and that's great. You say there's no way you would have been pro anyway, no matter what. You don't know that 100% and that's why you wonder.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: epic_alien on July 25, 2016, 04:45:24 PM
van summed it all up


to answer your question howard yes its worth it. having health issues after competing is bad, and its not fun. but its not as bad as having to sit around wondering "what if".
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: wes on July 25, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
I don't want to make this a natural or steroid bashing hysteria thread.
BUT, it seems to me a lot of my fellow meathedz take some silly health risks to gain muscle.

I just got back from the dentist and had a permanent crown put on ( back left molar).
It went well, but reminded me, how much of a pain in the ass it is, to get medical procedures.
For example, a few years ago I tore my Achilles tendon and had surgery to get it reattached.
The doc was great, but the lengthy recovery process sucked ass.

I never want to go under a surgeons knife again or endure some serious medical procedure again.
I'm perfectly happy now , walking on a gym treadmill and lifting on (mostly) Hammer machines.
Ronnie Coleman was incredible, but seeing him endure painful , hip and joint surgeries makes me cringe.

Along with the health risks is the $$$ pissed away on various potions and drugs.
I trained with an old gym bro, who took out a 2nd mortgage to fund his drug cycles for national contests.
He did ok, but missed turning pro and left competing feeling bitter.
Most thought he was hardcore ,but I secretly thought he was a dumb ass for doing it.

Over the past 15-20 years, I've wondered IF I should have given more to bodybuilding.
Today, I reflect back and am pleased I did it mostly on my own terms with few long term regrets.

Your thoughts?
Girls and sons............  :(
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Rudee on July 25, 2016, 05:06:28 PM
I dabbled in moderate cycles for a few years in the mid 1980's.

The mid 1980's was when I experimented with steroids for the first time.  Chris Benoit and another wrestler named Ben Bassarab were the dealers who supplied our HS football team with orals, Dianabol and Anadrol mostly (bennies too if that was your thing). He supplied for other high schools as well. He didnt play favorites. This was when he was wrestling locally with Stampede wrestling, several years prior to him going to the WWF. Even if I wanted to experiment with cycles of different anabolics, I couldn't afford it at the time, so I just stuck to one or two different orals.  I often wonder how things would have unfolded had I been able to afford a wider variety of anabolics.  I could have been one of the unfortunate messed up people who've completely ruined their bodies. Thankfully,  I'm not in that boat.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on July 25, 2016, 05:19:50 PM
I think training like Ronnie is still doing is very stupid. The body changes and IMO more importantly once you have been training so long you can feel anything, I can do any exercises now and because I know how to train the muscle it works better than anything I did years ago. Lifting heavy just stresses the system and risks a lot of injury especially when you can feel everything.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on July 25, 2016, 10:59:28 PM
I dont miss anything. I just want fresh nice pussy and the hernia in the neck to be ok!
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 25, 2016, 11:14:45 PM
I dabbled in moderate cycles for a few years in the mid 1980's.
The old 'stauch pic was from the 1988 Jr USA.
I was nothing great, but at least I looked the part when I got on stage.
whats your  biggest cycle ever?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 26, 2016, 08:53:32 AM
training super heavy all the time is not good in the long haul, i leanrned my lesson in my 20's bicep and shoulder injury that took more than a year to

heal. now light to moderate.  leave my ego at home.i never dabbled with roids i knew i would get hooked if i did
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
van summed it all up


to answer your question howard yes its worth it. having health issues after competing is bad, and its not fun. but its not as bad as having to sit around wondering "what if".

Ya know, the "what if" might be a lack of accepting the truth of one's real talent and ability.
We'd all like think we could have done better , IF, we just did a few things differently.

The harsh reality is, we all make choices in life. Some good, some bad.

In my case, I could look back on my "glory days " in bodybuilding and imagine doing better.
The likely truth is, I did as well as I was going to do...period.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
whats your  biggest cycle ever?

I only did one drug at a time.
Most I ever used was precontest, 2 shots of Winnie V a week for 6 weeks
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Conker on July 26, 2016, 11:53:27 AM
people take "dumb risks" in many hobbies. rock climbing, paragliding , racing cars/bikes , plenty more.

you avoid all risk and anything unhealthy and then you still end up with cancer at 50 or 60(or get shot by the cops). then what? you regret not doing the things you wanted to because they were risky.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 11:54:23 AM
I think training like Ronnie is still doing is very stupid. The body changes and IMO more importantly once you have been training so long you can feel anything, I can do any exercises now and because I know how to train the muscle it works better than anything I did years ago. Lifting heavy just stresses the system and risks a lot of injury especially when you can feel everything.
Good post. Post career injuries aside, what Ronnie did for training worked well for him.
He went all out, and became the greatest freakazoid in Olympia history.
Plenty of  boxers, MMA and NFL legends endure the dings and dents from years of battle.

I think most here , failed to understand the main idea in my thread topic.
The deal is,  think most people KNOW they don't have the talent to be a top pro, in any sport.
It doesn't take too long for that harsh reality to reveal itself.

I'm saying, by all means go for it and THEN, step back and see where you are.
At least 90% will be like me and lack the basic goods to be a pro.
Perhaps, they should accept reality and enjoy the sport on their own terms.

For example, after a few years of serious effort, I knew I lacked the stuff to be a pro BB.
So, I stopped using any drugs, competed in state shows and eventually judged .
I also bought a ticket to see the top talent compete in the national and pro contests.

Why is it   being a "pussy" when you accept reality ?
There is a term for those who refuse to accept reality. It's called insanity.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
people take "dumb risks" in many hobbies. rock climbing, paragliding , racing cars/bikes , plenty more.

you avoid all risk and anything unhealthy and then you still end up with cancer at 50 or 60(or get shot by the cops). then what? you regret not doing the things you wanted to because they were risky.

Good point. My older sis  died of cancer at age 56 and never drank , smoked or did risky stuff.


It's really about some crazed pursuit and sacrifice that will never pay off.

Instead of cutting back and being realistic, they double down on trying any new magical potion.
These guys seem insane and refuse to acknowledge basic reality.

It's like these guys who play golf all the time and end up throwing their clubs in frustration.
If they really loved playing, why are they pissed off doing it?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 26, 2016, 12:17:52 PM
the fact you make this thread over and over, not just on getbig, but also on other forums, means you got severe psychological issues

get back on the sauce and make it happen, you washed up bastard :D
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 12:21:38 PM
Ok,  assume most here know about the movie ; " Rudy".
Cliff notes. Smaller guy loves football and dreams of playing for Notre Dame in the 70's.
Works in a steel plant for awhile, then enrolls in junior college .
Finally gets accepted for this Jr year and walks on to become glorified tackling dummy on scout team.
After all that, he gets to dress for one game and plays a few sec at the end of the game.

It's meant to be this huge inspiration to follow your dreams and they might come true.
I love the movie and saw it several times and came this alternate conclusion.

Rudy should have enrolled in some smaller Div III college with a football team.
He could have actually played in several games by his jr and sr years.
He still could have gotten a quality degree if he went to a decent school.
Plus, he wouldn't have had to endure so much hardship and abuse.

FYI, the real Rudy was carried off the field, BUT the truth isn't so glorious.
They looked at it as a joke due to his lack of talent and were pumped after beating Ga tech

Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: njflex on July 26, 2016, 12:35:25 PM
Ok,  assume most here know about the movie ; " Rudy".
Cliff notes. Smaller guy loves football and dreams of playing for Notre Dame in the 70's.
Works in a steel plant for awhile, then enrolls in junior college .
Finally gets accepted for this Jr year and walks on to become glorified tackling dummy on scout team.
After all that, he gets to dress for one game and plays a few sec at the end of the game.

It's meant to be this huge inspiration to follow your dreams and they might come true.
I love the movie and saw it several times and came this alternate conclusion.

Rudy should have enrolled in some smaller Div III college with a football team.
He could have actually played in several games by his jr and sr years.
He still could have gotten a quality degree if he went to a decent school.
Plus, he wouldn't have had to endure so much hardship and abuse.

FYI, the real Rudy was carried off the field, BUT the truth isn't so glorious.
They looked at it as a joke due to his lack of talent and were pumped after beating Ga tech


I always liked rudy 
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 12:42:42 PM
the fact you make this thread over and over, not just on getbig, but also on other forums, means you got severe psychological issues


The irony here is that I didn't get lasting inner peace and happiness until I let go of the typical "lofty goals".
I really enjoy watching top pro athletes in various sports now, more then ever too.

It feels wonderful to sit back now and just enjoy "life" on my own terms.
I no longer have any need prove myself to anyone.
Sharing a simple , wholesome life with my soul mate exceeds anything I've ever known.

I know getbig isn't the most receptive place for this philosophy, but wtf. ;D
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 26, 2016, 12:44:13 PM
The irony here is that I didn't get lasting inner peace and happiness until I let go of the typical "lofty goals".
I really enjoy watching top pro athletes in various sports now, more then ever too.

It feels wonderful to sit back now and just enjoy "life" on my own terms.
I no longer have any need prove myself to anyone.

Sharing a simple , wholesome life with my soul mate exceeds anything I've ever known.

I know getbig isn't the most receptive place for this philosophy, but wtf. ;D
::)
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: epic_alien on July 26, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
if your happy howard why then do you keep rehashing these topics and asking if you need a life coach?

id like to see you use this forum for positive things. you have  a lot of great stories and could share them here.  People could take some good lessons from the things you have done in life and you could keep contributing and a positive about your posting here.

you don't have to talk about competing. you don't have a lot of experience with that so we would rather hear about your other experiences with school or just life.

you don't have to just troll the forum anymore howard. you can do positive things in your posts.

give us some stores. i  know you have some good ones so lets hear  some.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
::)

LOL ;D

Oh well, I'm happy and life is delightfully blissful for the H-man.
I trust you feel the same with your situation.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 26, 2016, 12:52:20 PM
LOL ;D

Oh well, I'm happy and life is delightfully blissful for the H-man.
I trust you feel the same with your situation.
fuck off and die
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 01:08:10 PM
if your happy howard why then do you keep rehashing these topics and asking if you need a life coach?

id like to see you use this forum for positive things. you have  a lot of great stories and could share them here.  People could take some good lessons from the things you have done in life and you could keep contributing and a positive about your posting here.

you don't have to talk about competing. you don't have a lot of experience with that so we would rather hear about your other experiences with school or just life.

you don't have to just troll the forum anymore howard. you can do positive things in your posts.

give us some stores. i  know you have some good ones so lets hear  some.

Thanks and that's a fair point.
Most of my posts are recycled goofs anyway and that gets boring, even for me.

Ok, I'll start with school and education leading to viable careers.
For starters, going to big wig Ivy League school or elite Private College is a big waste of $$$ for most people.
My older sis and I are a good example of how to do it on the cheap LOL.

My sis went to a public HS and then got a tuition scholarship that covered most of her in state tuition at UNH.
She worked a med tech in a blood bank until she got her masters degree.
Then she went to med school and did various rotations at some top research hospitals.
Before she died, she was head of Internal Medicine at a major  med school.

I went to the same public high school and state univ. system until grad school.
I went to grad school at a good school (physics) on a grad assistantship.
I was never going to win the Nobel Prize, so I enjoyed a good career teaching.
My career ended teaching at the small college level.

They real key to success is:
1. Picking a field that leads directly to a job.
For example, their are a lot fewer applicants for jobs teaching physics then history or PE.
You're likely to get a job faster in accounting as a CPA then a degree in Liberal Arts.

2. Get good grades in the schools you attend. Far better to have a 3.7 at Podunk U. then a 1.8 at Mega State.
Sounds obvious , but grades , exam scores and major are what really matters in the end.

3. The school and education are just means to start a career.
Look at any NFL roster and you will see a variety of colleges represented.
The school allows you get on a team and play in the game.
How well you do, is up your talent and ambition. ;D
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 01:10:44 PM
fuck off and die

OK? I'm gonna ask this , because I'm curious.
What was the purpose of that reply?

It wasn't funny or original. Obviously, it won't stop me from posting on get big either. So, what's the point?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 26, 2016, 01:15:24 PM
OK? I'm gonna ask this , because I'm curious.
What was the purpose of that reply?

It wasn't funny or original. Obviously, it won't stop me from posting on get big either. So, what's the point?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
FUCK OFF AND DIE
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on July 26, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
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Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: njflex on July 26, 2016, 01:23:03 PM
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that is a smart horse,,,
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2016, 01:29:13 PM
I agree and have been a bodybuilder for longer then mot here have been alive.
But seriously, once you have some impressive mass, what then?

Unless you're a top pro, you still have the same job, gf, home, car, etc.
Eventually you might need to $$ for something ? What's the point in taking risks for something that doesn't have much lasting value?

What is your definition of being a bodybuilders?

After all your previous lies how can we take anything you say as truthful?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Grape Ape on July 26, 2016, 01:38:38 PM
What is your definition of being a bodybuilders?

After all your previous lies how can we take anything you say as truthful?

He's posted pics plenty of times.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: anabolichalo on July 26, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
cant this stupid moron just go away
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Grape Ape on July 26, 2016, 01:52:41 PM
cant this stupid moron just go away

You happen to be looking in a mirror when you typed this, by any chance?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2016, 01:59:04 PM
He's posted pics plenty of times.

And?

He said he's been a bodybuilder longer than most here have been alive, despite not having competed in over 20+ years. So I'm curious as to his definition of a bodybuilder because all of his posts are about those doing massive amount of drugs to compete, which he has apparently never done.

Who are his posts targeting, top amateurs or pros? Are his ramblings posted here going to change their minds? Are the members using drugs here pming  Howard messages of thanks for his revelations because they now see the error of their ways?

Does that make sense now?
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Grape Ape on July 26, 2016, 01:59:48 PM
And?

He said he's been a bodybuilder longer than most here have been alive, despite not having competed in over 20+ years. So I'm curious as to his definition of a bodybuilder because all of his posts are about those doing massive amount of drugs to compete, which he has apparently never done.

Who are his posts targeting, top amateurs or pros? Are his ramblings posted here going to change their minds? Are the members using drugs here pming  Howard messages of thanks for his revelations because they now see the error of their ways?

Does that make sense now?

Seems like you're thinking about this in great detail.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2016, 02:03:32 PM
Seems like you're thinking about this in great detail.

LOL, you got me.

You took the time to answer so I wanted to do the same, all homo.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 26, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
I don't want to make this a natural or steroid bashing hysteria thread.
BUT, it seems to me a lot of my fellow meathedz take some silly health risks to gain muscle.

I just got back from the dentist and had a permanent crown put on ( back left molar).
It went well, but reminded me, how much of a pain in the ass it is, to get medical procedures.
For example, a few years ago I tore my Achilles tendon and had surgery to get it reattached.
The doc was great, but the lengthy recovery process sucked ass.

I never want to go under a surgeons knife again or endure some serious medical procedure again.
I'm perfectly happy now , walking on a gym treadmill and lifting on (mostly) Hammer machines.
Ronnie Coleman was incredible, but seeing him endure painful , hip and joint surgeries makes me cringe.

Along with the health risks is the $$$ pissed away on various potions and drugs.
I trained with an old gym bro, who took out a 2nd mortgage to fund his drug cycles for national contests.
He did ok, but missed turning pro and left competing feeling bitter.
Most thought he was hardcore ,but I secretly thought he was a dumb ass for doing it.

Over the past 15-20 years, I've wondered IF I should have given more to bodybuilding.
Today, I reflect back and am pleased I did it mostly on my own terms with few long term regrets.

Your thoughts?

I didn't read the shit you posted.

Fuck off anyway, you boring retarded kunt
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 02:05:15 PM
LOL, you got me.

You took the time to answer so I wanted to do the same, all homo.

Now, I'm thinking of a hot shower three-way with Dave and Grape ape . No homo...obviously ;)
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Grape Ape on July 26, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
LOL, you got me.

You took the time to answer so I wanted to do the same, all homo.

All good bud.  I only answered because I thought you were someone else when I clicked.

I've accepted that every so often Howard gets bored and starts the same threads ad nauseum.

Cannot battle it anymore, it's just one of the things that happens here.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Grape Ape on July 26, 2016, 02:07:22 PM
Now, I'm thinking of a hot shower three-way with Dave and Grape ape . No homo...obviously ;)

Ignore my above post.

Shut up Howard.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 02:10:48 PM
And?

He said he's been a bodybuilder longer than most here have been alive, despite not having competed in over 20+ years. So I'm curious as to his definition of a bodybuilder because all of his posts are about those doing massive amount of drugs to compete, which he has apparently never done.

Who are his posts targeting, top amateurs or pros? Are his ramblings posted here going to change their minds? Are the members using drugs here pming  Howard messages of thanks for his revelations because they now see the error of their ways?

Does that make sense now?

I competed in mostly state and Podunk level contests. Most of it was on few or no drugs and despite competing a lot, I never won anything of merit.

Ok, so what's my point ?
I've been on getbig and around bodybuilding for a long time.
I see the same dumb thinking constantly recycled with piss poor results and bitter feelings in the end.

I realize most won't listen or agree with me. But based on the number of even insulting replies, at least I touched a new nerves and made someone reflect on these issues.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 02:13:22 PM
Ignore my above post.

Shut up Howard.

What? Nothing wrong with real men enjoying the friendly task of lathering each other up after a hard workout.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2016, 02:24:30 PM
Now, I'm thinking of a hot shower three-way with Dave and Grape ape . No homo...obviously ;)

Howard you take a beating and keep coming back.

I can respect that.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 02:31:06 PM
the fact you make this thread over and over, not just on getbig, but also on other forums, means you got severe psychological issues

get back on the sauce and make it happen, you washed up bastard :D

I still get on get big periodically for shits and giggles like most do.

Believe it or not my personal life is pretty sweet now.
Most wouldn't believe me,  so I won't bother  LOL

A lot of my posts are goofy recycled trolling. That's pretty lame , but wtf.
I've thought about making real posts, and just did in this thread on education.
Obviously  that's an even bigger waste of time.

You seem like a decent dude with the typical getbig asshole persona.

Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 26, 2016, 02:32:54 PM
Howard you take a beating and keep coming back.

I can respect that.

Respect? I seriously doubt that.
I think you like ass raping any slob who keeps dropping the soap and won't leave the shower
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2016, 12:31:48 AM
Ok,  assume most here know about the movie ; " Rudy".
Cliff notes. Smaller guy loves football and dreams of playing for Notre Dame in the 70's.
Works in a steel plant for awhile, then enrolls in junior college .
Finally gets accepted for this Jr year and walks on to become glorified tackling dummy on scout team.
After all that, he gets to dress for one game and plays a few sec at the end of the game.

It's meant to be this huge inspiration to follow your dreams and they might come true.
I love the movie and saw it several times and came this alternate conclusion.

Rudy should have enrolled in some smaller Div III college with a football team.
He could have actually played in several games by his jr and sr years.
He still could have gotten a quality degree if he went to a decent school.
Plus, he wouldn't have had to endure so much hardship and abuse.

FYI, the real Rudy was carried off the field, BUT the truth isn't so glorious.
They looked at it as a joke due to his lack of talent and were pumped after beating Ga tech



never liked that movie, why was anybody inspired by a guy becoming a walk on and getting in for one play? 

Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Howard on July 27, 2016, 11:42:07 AM
never liked that movie, why was anybody inspired by a guy becoming a walk on and getting in for one play? 



The movie does suck you in with the epic football scenes and dramatic music.
But, AFTER the movie, I reflected o his story and was more like your post.

It reminds me of a beat douche that chases his dream girl.
She keeps blowing him off , but he refuses to take no for an answer.

Eventually she allows him to take her to dinner before she marries another dude.
Pathetic.
Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2016, 12:07:36 PM
The movie does suck you in with the epic football scenes and dramatic music.
But, AFTER the movie, I reflected o his story and was more like your post.

It reminds me of a beat douche that chases his dream girl.
She keeps blowing him off , but he refuses to take no for an answer.

Eventually she allows him to take her to dinner before she marries another dude.
Pathetic.

exactly

dude wasted so much time just trying to get in for one play in a college football game where you don't get paid, i will never understand why people view it as a great story let alone great enough for a movie

was the movie made by a notre dame graduate?  they use the movie to attract recruits and enhance the mystique of notre dame

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Title: Re: Taking dumb risks to make muscle gains?
Post by: falco on July 29, 2016, 08:21:46 AM
I have spend my share in surgeries and therapy due to training and hormone use. Looking back, i don't think i will do it very differently. I loved it at the time, still do.