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Title: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Army of One on August 13, 2016, 08:17:37 AM


http://www.fox16.com/news/local-news/teen-facing-up-to-20-years-in-prison-for-brutal-attack
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Fortress on August 13, 2016, 08:33:37 AM
Coward.

This young male is obviously on his way to becoming a lifetime liability to the society in which he lives. Like a sick animal, just put him down.

The never-ending coercion to believe every human life is valuable has lost its connection to reality. The reality is, an individual must earn his right to coexist in a civilized and peaceful society.

We're buckling under the weight of our futile attempt to see all human life as precious.

Jails and prisons are crammed-to-capacity with human garbage begging for extermination.
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Post by: Dave D on August 13, 2016, 08:41:19 AM
Coward.

This young male is obviously on his way to becoming a lifetime liability to the society in which he lives. Like a sick animal, just put him down.

The never-ending coercion to believe every human life is valuable has lost its connection to reality. The reality is, an infividual must earn his right to coexist in a civilized and peaceful society.

We're buckling under the weight of our futile attempt to see all human life as precious.

Jails and prisons are crammed-to-capacity with human garbage begging for extermination.

I think you're right.

That video is disgusting. I hope  the kid he hit wasn't really 12.
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Post by: Army of One on August 13, 2016, 08:42:26 AM
I think you're right.

That video is disgusting. I hope  the kid he hit wasn't really 12.

Is 12, check the fox story after
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Post by: wes on August 13, 2016, 09:27:07 AM
I hope he goes to the joint for a long time for that cowardly shit.
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Post by: PJim on August 13, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
Could have quite easily killed him.
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Post by: Nether Animal on August 13, 2016, 09:38:58 AM
pussy cheapshot
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 13, 2016, 09:48:01 AM
Brews gonna brew. Society needs to eradicate this problem. Extinction of the black scum.
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Post by: 20inch calves on August 13, 2016, 09:48:42 AM
I just don't understand it...why would you do something like that? Why record it? The 16 year old is physiologically damaged. He will end of being a career criminal. The only hope for society is that someone kills before he kills them..
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Post by: Simple Simon on August 13, 2016, 10:02:57 AM
never mind, the cavalry will be along shortly
(http://cdn-static.wildabouttrial.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/moore4.jpg)
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Post by: Rambone on August 13, 2016, 10:13:32 AM
If Obama had a son...
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Post by: moty on August 13, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
No no he a good boy he dindu nuffin,,,,,he's just an untreated victim with mental illness, his mother says. Apparently a year and a half in the juvenile slammer wasn't enough "treatment" for his issues,,,,oh and guess why he was there too,,,,,,,,fighting ::) ::)


And LOL at them turning this into a mental illness case and "we need to pay more attention and address mental illness much more often in this state and country blah blah blah etc etc" what a crock. I'm sure it also has NOTHING to do with the dindu music he listens to in his ipod that glorifies this behavior.
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Post by: Irongrip400 on August 13, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
never mind, the cavalry will be along shortly
(http://cdn-static.wildabouttrial.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/moore4.jpg)

Is this the kid, and is Harley defending him?
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Post by: Simple Simon on August 13, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Is this the kid, and is Harley defending him?
No, thats a poor guy charged with shooting a 12 year old girl.

No barrel too deep for Harley to scrape.
Quote
Breite said Moore is being used as a “scapegoat” for the city’s violence.
“The wrongful persecution of a 19-year-old city youth is not the answer to what’s going on in Paterson,” he said. “One thing is for sure: the killer of that young girl was not in court today.”
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Post by: Henda on August 13, 2016, 10:37:14 AM
Stupid little pussy black bastard, hopefully one day someone will seriously hurt the cu nt badly
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Post by: Beefjake on August 13, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
And LOL at them turning this into a mental illness case and "we need to pay more attention and address mental illness much more often in this state and country blah blah blah etc etc" what a crock.
This! " we'll examine if the person is mentally ill ."
D'uh! Would somebody in their right mind do something like that.
One good thing about it. In scandinavia, where " for life " sentence basically is 12 years. These scum can still be locked in to an mental institution for life.

Thing is though. All kinds of preventive mental care has been cut down by, I guess almost every, goverment.
"No, there is no quarterly profit in this, lets cut or drastically down size it! I'll cost society 100x more in the future but shareholders can make money now!"
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Post by: BB on August 13, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
The kid's mother is a white trash piece of shit named Amy Millsaps, if you look her up, she's got a giant police record of her own. I can't find the screen caps, but when this first happened, she was on facebook playing the "didn't do nothing" card, and claiming they went extra hard on him.

Edit, here's a piece of it -

(http://i.imgur.com/rVBqJ2i.png).

http://i.imgur.com/rVBqJ2i.png .
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Post by: BB on August 13, 2016, 11:33:01 AM
http://m.facebook.com/Justiceforkane/ .

Compilation of wackiness connected to this.
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Post by: stuntmovie on August 13, 2016, 11:46:04 AM
What is the max sentence for a 16 year old kid?

And I may be incorrect but 'mental issues' do seem to be the lawyer's  line of defense for obviously guilty parties.

None of you GetBiggers may remember this, but society used to lock up such 'nental individuals' in mental institutions (often called "Nut Houses") but I think it wad Ronald Regan who put an end to that and released them all.
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Post by: growing lad on August 13, 2016, 11:47:53 AM
Guess the race

Lock him up before he kills
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Post by: BB on August 13, 2016, 12:09:08 PM

None of you GetBiggers may remember this, but society used to lock up such 'nental individuals' in mental institutions (often called "Nut Houses") but I think it wad Ronald Regan who put an end to that and released them all.

To be fair to Reagan, he was under pressure from mental health and the patient's rights movements to close them down. And that pressure started started way before him, back in the mid 60's at least, and just got stronger.
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Post by: hardgainerj on August 13, 2016, 01:29:58 PM
systematic racism
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 13, 2016, 02:45:24 PM
If a gorilla gets out of its cage and kills are you mad at the gorilla?
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Post by: TRIX on August 13, 2016, 03:06:54 PM
20 years for a cheap shot?? Less than most murderers and rapests LOL
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Post by: Rambone on August 13, 2016, 03:10:53 PM
20 years for a cheap shot?? Less than most murderers and rapests LOL

I'd give him 10. Kid could've died.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: bgm on August 13, 2016, 03:11:44 PM
What is the max sentence for a 16 year old kid?

And I may be incorrect but 'mental issues' do seem to be the lawyer's  line of defense for obviously guilty parties.

None of you GetBiggers may remember this, but society used to lock up such 'nental individuals' in mental institutions (often called "Nut Houses") but I think it wad Ronald Regan who put an end to that and released them all.

The only thing missing was some ape yelling "World Star"..

That is straight up attempted homicide. That kid could have died, and surely will have long lasting repercussion as a result of this lowlife. A smart judge would sentence him to lengthy probation. This would surely result in him breaking probation and thus ensure he ends up with an adult sentence.



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Post by: 20inch calves on August 13, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
And the mother sticking up for him ::) no wonder kids act like they do. The dad is probably locked up and his mom should be..
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Post by: stuntmovie on August 13, 2016, 03:37:09 PM
BB, Thanks for your response regarding Pres Regan and the closure of the mental institutions way back when.

Is seems to be an interesting subject and I do plan to see if I can find the details regarding those closures.

I believe that most of those 'hospitals' within California were physically located within NAPA which is now one of the major wine vineyards in the world.
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Post by: BB on August 13, 2016, 03:59:32 PM
BB, Thanks for your response regarding Pres Regan and the closure of the mental institutions way back when.

Is seems to be an interesting subject and I do plan to see if I can find the details regarding those closures.

I believe that most of those 'hospitals' within California were physically located within NAPA which is now one of the major wine vineyards in the world.

This was a pretty good article on it from the 80's -

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all .

These two Acts are big ones in the curtailing of the mental institution use, and subsequent closure -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterman–Petris–Short_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterman–Petris–Short_Act).
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Post by: Irongrip400 on August 13, 2016, 05:04:39 PM
This was a pretty good article on it from the 80's -

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all .

These two Acts are big ones in the curtailing of the mental institution use, and subsequent closure -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterman–Petris–Short_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterman–Petris–Short_Act).

I'll await SF1900's response, but mental institutions were a good thing. Most of the homeless that are out on the streets today have mental problems and should've been institutionalized.
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Post by: BB on August 13, 2016, 05:07:15 PM
I'll await SF1900's response, but mental institutions were a good thing. Most of the homeless that are out on the streets today have mental problems and should've been institutionalized.

Won't get an argument from me :).
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Post by: illuminati on August 13, 2016, 07:45:03 PM
Yet another guess the colour
Dindu Nuffin

Just can't wish enough bad thinks on that lad

Mental illness --- Hmm I got a cheap cure A Bullet -- End Of.
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Post by: oldschoolfan on August 13, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
that attack was brutal

that black kid,  here is an example of  a generation of men  being raised by women, he is pretty much doomed.


he is lucky he didnt kill that other kid as well
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Post by: obsidian on August 13, 2016, 08:18:05 PM
that attack was brutal

that black kid,  here is an example of  a generation of men  being raised by women, he is pretty much doomed.


he is lucky he didnt kill that other kid as well
But white people are the racists?? Blacks have now proven time and time again they are cowards. Any white person that still believes the MSM's false narrative that blacks are the victims is a moron.

Real big of this piece of shit black coward to attack this younger white kid from behind. There is no honor in these vermin. They should just be fucking exterminated by removing their capability to reproduce. Whites would have had a colony on Mars by now if it wasn't for these blacks holding them back with their fucking bullshit. Just sterilize them now and get it over with! Nothing good will come from having a few million more of these useless bipeds running around!
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Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2016, 09:56:15 PM
I'll await SF1900's response, but mental institutions were a good thing. Most of the homeless that are out on the streets today have mental problems and should've been institutionalized.

Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.
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Post by: Earl1972 on August 13, 2016, 10:27:24 PM
was there a motive for punching him or was it the knockout game?

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Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2016, 05:41:10 AM
Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.


sf i agree he is not mentally ill that was a cold and calculated attack.   
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Post by: hardman on August 14, 2016, 05:48:57 AM
Stupid little pussy black bastard, hopefully one day someone will seriously hurt the cu nt badly
;D you are so right dude
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Post by: Marty Champions on August 14, 2016, 07:37:50 AM
just a misguided hillary supportrr
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Post by: Powerlift66 on August 14, 2016, 07:59:15 AM
Animal...
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Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2016, 09:29:53 AM

sf i agree he is not mentally ill that was a cold and calculated attack.   

Labeling everyone as "mentally ill" stigmatizes those people who actually struggle with mental illness on a daily basis. People then come to perceive people with mental illness as violent criminals. Now, of course, people with mental illness can commit violent crimes; however, as I previously stated, people with mental illness are more often than not the victims of a violent crime. The majority of people with mental illness DO NOT act like this 16-year old.
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Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
Labeling everyone as "mentally ill" stigmatizes those people who actually struggle with mental illness on a daily basis. People then come to perceive people with mental illness as violent criminals. Now, of course, people with mental illness can commit violent crimes; however, as I previously stated, people with mental illness are more often than not the victims of a violent crime. The majority of people with mental illness DO NOT act like this 16-year old.


yes i totally agree with you ,  most mentally ill people do not do that,  maybe a pure psychopath , that kid is  a criminal in the making there is no

hope for him.  when your 16 u know what is  right or wong, when i was 16  never once crossed my mind to get a pair of brass knuckles and

attempt to beat a kid to death, fucking society these days.
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Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2016, 09:44:29 AM
Labeling everyone as "mentally ill" stigmatizes those people who actually struggle with mental illness on a daily basis. People then come to perceive people with mental illness as violent criminals. Now, of course, people with mental illness can commit violent crimes; however, as I previously stated, people with mental illness are more often than not the victims of a violent crime. The majority of people with mental illness DO NOT act like this 16-year old.


sf do  you think when the jury convicts jamal   and sends him down to angola and hes getting raped by his cell mates tyrone and rayvon, he will be thinking  dayum   i shoulda stayed home that day and listed to my jay z  rap songs instead of trying to skill that lil honkey white boy
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Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2016, 09:49:30 AM

yes i totally agree with you ,  most mentally ill people do not do that,  maybe a pure psychopath , that kid is  a criminal in the making there is no

hope for him.  when your 16 u know what is  right or wong, when i was 16  never once crossed my mind to get a pair of brass knuckles and

attempt to beat a kid to death, fucking society these days.

He may be exhibiting signs of antisocial personality disorder (though, you can't diagnose someone with a personality disorder until they reach 18 years of age). However, when the media uses "mentally ill," they are often not referring to this. They just throw around the word for whatever reason; maybe it draws attention.

There is no cure for antisocial personality disorder (or psychopathy). Treatment may help, but they are extremely difficult cases to work with.
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Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2016, 09:51:11 AM

sf do  you think when the jury convicts jamal   and sends him down to angola and hes getting raped by his cell mates tyrone and rayvon, he will be thinking  dayum   i shoulda stayed home that day and listed to my jay z  rap songs instead of trying to skill that lil honkey white boy

If he has antisocial personality disorder (or psychopathy), then there is a good chance he may not experience remorse about what he did. As such, he may not be thinking, "Damn, I should not have done that." I hope he can turn his life around, no matter the outcome. We can't predict the future; we can only hope for the best.
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Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
If he has antisocial personality disorder (or psychopathy), then there is a good chance he may not experience remorse about what he did. As such, he may not be thinking, "Damn, I should not have done that." I hope he can turn his life around, no matter the outcome. We can't predict the future; we can only hope for the best.

SF  his momma  tinka rae is a white whore who loves bbc, this kid probably spent most of his life watching her get plowed by spooky and his home boy cheese, and there cousin weebay   almost every day of the week, plus the poor lil bastard , probably suffered head trama when he tripped on empty

fotie  bottles  and hit his head.   he never stood a chance.
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Post by: Earl1972 on August 14, 2016, 10:04:21 AM
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

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Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2016, 10:07:07 AM
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

E


ha you got that right huge difference, unless that  12 year old had mike tyson genetics, but thats rare.  fuck my strengh level alone from when i was 12 to 16 was huge, when i was 12 i could barely curl the 8 lb dumbells
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Post by: Dave D on August 14, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

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The 16 year old is a bully, plan and simple. Unless the 12 year was a giant (and I know he was on a skate board) the 16 year old looks small for his age and I'm sure that's also a part of his many issues. As a 16 year old I can't ever remember being around 12 year olds, as far social settings where I would have paid any attention to them or acknowledged them.
Dude has numerous issues.


That said the 12yo learned a painful and hopefully valuable lesson; don't talk trash unless you're ready to back it up (again I know it was a suckered punch, but as a kid I knew if I said something smart to teenagers I'd better be able to run or be ready for the consequences if I couldn't back it up). As devastating as it is for the 12yo I hope he grows from this and becomes a better, wiser and stronger person.
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Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 14, 2016, 11:33:18 AM
Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.

so true.

anyone here with half a brain knows I led a pretty fucked up lifestyle. well I also had the opportunity to see real untreated mental illnesses out there on the street. Trust me when I say this kid is not mentally ill. He is just a fucking idiot trying to be cool and a tough guy. Someone with a real severe mental illness would not wait for the guy taking the video, let alone the brass knuckles, they just attack period. Seen it happn a few dozen times on my journey. I have seen severe schizophrenics lose their shit who were nothing to look at physically and it would take several cops to wrestle them down and get them into the cars. I have seen people get randomly attacked by strangers who were fucked in the head.

Honest to god those people scare me. That kid, if he pulled that shit on me, would get a baseball bat upside the head once I got out of the hospital. A real mental illness type, I aint touching that with a ten foot pole, here'e my wallet

Like I said this kid and mental illness= crock of shit
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Post by: 20inch calves on August 14, 2016, 04:02:22 PM
The 16 year old is a bully, plan and simple. Unless the 12 year was a giant (and I know he was on a skate board) the 16 year old looks small for his age and I'm sure that's also a part of his many issues. As a 16 year old I can't ever remember being around 12 year olds, as far social settings where I would have paid any attention to them or acknowledged them.
Dude has numerous issues.


That said the 12yo learned a painful and hopefully valuable lesson; don't talk trash unless you're ready to back it up (again I know it was a suckered punch, but as a kid I knew if I said something smart to teenagers I'd better be able to run or be ready for the consequences if I couldn't back it up). As devastating as it is for the 12yo I hope he grows from this and becomes a better, wiser and stronger person.


The 12 year old was acting his age...IF he even said anything at all..he didn't deserve that. When I was 16 I would have laughed at a 12 year for saying that...again IF he said anything at all
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Post by: Marty Champions on August 14, 2016, 04:11:13 PM

yes i totally agree with you ,  most mentally ill people do not do that,  maybe a pure psychopath , that kid is  a criminal in the making there is no

hope for him.  when your 16 u know what is  right or wong, when i was 16  never once crossed my mind to get a pair of brass knuckles and

attempt to beat a kid to death, fucking society these days.
i knew of 5 or 6 kids that had a pair of brass knuckles i can understand because they wereent big kids so they doubted there fight skills


but to go n swing on someone everyone know it will break a skull n kill someone
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Las Vegas on August 14, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.

Good post.  Especially last paragraph.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Las Vegas on August 14, 2016, 04:28:45 PM
was there a motive for punching him or was it the knockout game?

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Considering the kid had his back turned and was totally unaware, it's one and the same.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Las Vegas on August 14, 2016, 04:30:18 PM
God bless, and actually standing on a skateboard.  He had everything working against him that day, looks like.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: oldgolds on August 14, 2016, 04:42:44 PM
Probably a lot of cases like this that our media hides/buries because it doesn't fit there 'World veiw'.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: illuminati on August 14, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
was there a motive for punching him or was it the knockout game?

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He Don't Need No Motive....
He A Dindu...... Enough Said

Advanced Race of Peace  ::)
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2016, 04:58:26 PM
Good post.  Especially last paragraph.

Address to you and Nelson:

First, in order to qualify as mentally ill at the time of the crime, the patient has to not be able to distinguish between right and wrong, fantasy vs reality. Obviously, most know this.

The defense of mentally ill is based on the "The McNaughton rule." The first famous legal test for insanity came in 1843, in the McNaughton case. Englishman Daniel McNaughton shot and killed the secretary of the British Prime Minister, believing that the Prime Minister was conspiring against him. The court acquitted McNaughton "by reason of insanity," and he was placed in a mental institution for the rest of his life. However, the case caused a public uproar, and Queen Victoria ordered the court to develop a stricter test for insanity.

There are definite cases where the McNaughton rule applies (e.g., in the case of severe paranoid schizophrenia--the patient believes people are conspiring against him or her).

Again, the media throws around the word "mental illness," but they never really define what it means. Typical media doing what it does best: providing false information.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Dave D on August 14, 2016, 07:20:27 PM

The 12 year old was acting his age...IF he even said anything at all..he didn't deserve that. When I was 16 I would have laughed at a 12 year for saying that...again IF he said anything at all

I never said the 12 year deserved that nor was it justified. I was basing my comment on the fact it was said the 12 year old said he could beat the 16yo in a mma fight, the quoted section.

You think a 16yo (with this decision making skill set nonetheless) was aware that the 12yo was acting his age......  ::)

When you were 16, blah, blah.... as I said I wouldn't have paid any attention either but you might not have read that far. The older kid is an obvious bully and social outcast and that's why a high school kid is hanging around 6th graders.


Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 15, 2016, 06:39:30 AM
I never said the 12 year deserved that nor was it justified. I was basing my comment on the fact it was said the 12 year old said he could beat the 16yo in a mma fight, the quoted section.

You think a 16yo (with this decision making skill set nonetheless) was aware that the 12yo was acting his age......  ::)

When you were 16, blah, blah.... as I said I wouldn't have paid any attention either but you might not have read that far. The older kid is an obvious bully and social outcast and that's why a high school kid is hanging around 6th graders.





dave  do you think when jamal gets convicted by the all white jury and the judge sends him to angola, and he gets raped by tyrone he will regret what he did.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Dave D on August 15, 2016, 06:57:31 AM

dave  do you think when jamal gets convicted by the all white jury and the judge sends him to angola, and he gets raped by tyrone he will regret what he did.

W hen you watch the kid in the video he has the look of someone who is lost. He has no identity or self worth.

Someone said he is the classic case of a boy raised by a woman and I think that's somewhat accurate. White mother with a black father (assuming the dads not around), th kid probably suffers on identity issues on many levels.

It's hard figuring out where you fit in and how to be a man even if you have a decent father (and parents in general but I'm playing off his lack of a dad) so this kid had no chance. I'd imagine he's the only "black" kid on his mom's side of the family, and factor in if he knows his dad's family where he's probably the only "white" boy (if he knows them at all).

Idk if he will regret it. His anger is deep rooted and he's probably never had real consequences in his life. Abuse is likely all he knows.

He should have been a part of big brothers/big sisters or some other mentoring program but his mom probably didn't care until it was to late.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Yamcha on August 15, 2016, 07:02:03 AM
speaking of mental illness,  a kid I went to grade school was found dead this past week; he was living in one of those rental storage buildings. This is in East TX, and the heat index was over 110 last week.

his parents kicked him out knowing full well that he had mental issues.

very disturbing
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 15, 2016, 07:39:43 AM
W hen you watch the kid in the video he has the look of someone who is lost. He has no identity or self worth.

Someone said he is the classic case of a boy raised by a woman and I think that's somewhat accurate. White mother with a black father (assuming the dads not around), th kid probably suffers on identity issues on many levels.

It's hard figuring out where you fit in and how to be a man even if you have a decent father (and parents in general but I'm playing off his lack of a dad) so this kid had no chance. I'd imagine he's the only "black" kid on his mom's side of the family, and factor in if he knows his dad's family where he's probably the only "white" boy (if he knows them at all).

Idk if he will regret it. His anger is deep rooted and he's probably never had real consequences in his life. Abuse is likely all he knows.

He should have been a part of big brothers/big sisters or some other mentoring program but his mom probably didn't care until it was to late.


dave i am the one who quoted that,  i honestly believe that to ,  we now have a generation of men raised by women.    and there is only so much a woman can do,  and by all accounts his momma is a whore hereself. kid never had a chance.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: titusisback on August 15, 2016, 08:59:50 AM
If the parents use mental illness as a defense then they need to be put to jail for allowing him to run free and the kid needs to go to mental hospital.

Trust me, presented with that option the kid would suddenly be just fine according to the parents.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 15, 2016, 09:27:34 AM
What's the point of keeping this kid alive?  Sure he's a cash cow for the justice system but is that a good enough reason?
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 15, 2016, 10:01:27 AM
What's the point of keeping this kid alive?  Sure he's a cash cow for the justice system but is that a good enough reason?

EL diablo you are right there is none,  when he goes to angola and gets raped by tyrone and rayvon,  he will come out more pissed off

i bet he can barely read and write thus the chances of him landing a job are slim to none.   even wort he will probably impregnate some black

and white hoes along the way
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Las Vegas on August 15, 2016, 10:11:02 AM
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

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I guess the older kid must have had a delayed reaction to the comment, then.

 ::)

Or maybe even he realized how guilty he'd sound if he admitted he was testing his brass knuckles on an innocent kid.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Kwon on August 16, 2016, 03:38:10 AM
never mind, the cavalry will be along shortly
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"He dindu nuffin'!"


/AD2100
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: muscleman-2013 on August 16, 2016, 03:52:53 AM
We judge those that believe in and practiced segregation so quickly, but maybe in their minds it was justified to stop this sort of thing.  FBI stats say 35000 white women are raped by blacks each year (about 10 black women raped by whites in comparison).  You could argue that by allowing this to continue today's men are COWARDS.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: falco on August 16, 2016, 08:54:59 AM
Send in to jail. Now and for a long time.
Title: Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
Post by: Fortress on August 16, 2016, 10:52:05 AM
We judge those that believe in and practiced segregation so quickly, but maybe in their minds it was justified to stop this sort of thing.  FBI stats say 35000 white women are raped by blacks each year (about 10 black women raped by whites in comparison).  You could argue that by allowing this to continue today's men are COWARDS.

Segregation must again happen. It's the only way.

In the case of negros, they've had their opportunity to co-habitate with Caucasians. Far from the myth of oppression, over the last few decades blacks have been given more than their share. Means to succeed.

Generally, they just cannot.

Over the decades I have gone back and forth within myself about how I feel concerning blacks.

Its become simply too obvious to argue against/ignore: Blacks are vastly less evolved in intellectual sophistication. They behave in ways that simply do not jive with advanced white societies.
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Post by: MANGOOS on August 16, 2016, 10:58:22 AM
Before I open the video I knew it will be a negro. It isnt a coincidence that they always do criminal shit, its in they DNA to be stupid and violent. Stop the fucking politic corectness.