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Started The McLaughlin Group.
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RIP.
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Used to love watching the show. But toward the end, he was running a con. It was like "here's the entire reasonable spectrum of American politics" when it simply wasn't so. Not at all.
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Used to love watching the show. But toward the end, he was running a con. It was like "here's the entire reasonable spectrum of American politics" when it simply wasn't so. Not at all.
Agreed...you could tell he looked really sick in his recent shows
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He was a notorious cheapskate. According to Jack Germond (one of many people who became a McLaughlin "enemy" over time), he paid them only 1800 month and with absolutely no allowances of any sort. And Germond gave proof that the "unrehearsed" claim was ridiculously false, too.
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Agreed...you could tell he looked really sick in his recent shows
Yeah, a few times along the way he looked ill and I feared it was near the end for him. But remember, too, he'd been in his 70s or better for the past two decades. So he'd been "old" for a very long time.
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One of the more brutal moments on the show. This was Lawrence O'Donnell's last appearance, despite having been a regular guest up to this point. Fact is, anyone who said anything the big guy didn't like, could kiss their ass-end away.
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^ I really love the look on Buchanan's face. And how JM slipped in the unanswered "Are you a Christian?"
Classic McLaughlin Group.
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John McLaughlin, host of confrontational TV show, dead at 89
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/john-mclaughlin-host-of-confrontational-tv-show-dead-at-89/ar-BBvI08J?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
NEW YORK (AP) — John McLaughlin, the conservative political commentator and host of the namesake long-running television show that pioneered hollering-heads discussions of Washington politics, has died. He was 89.
McLaughlin died Tuesday morning, according to an announcement on the Facebook page of "The McLaughlin Group" series. No cause of death was mentioned, but an ailing McLaughlin had missed the taping for this past weekend's show — his first absence in the series' 34 years.
Since its debut in April 1982, "The McLaughlin Group" upended the soft-spoken and non-confrontational style of shows such as "Washington Week in Review" and "Agronsky & Co." with a raucous format that largely dispensed with politicians. It instead featured journalists quizzing, talking over and sometimes insulting each other. In recent years, the show billed itself as "The American Original" — a nod to all the shows that copied its format.
"John McLaughlin was a TV institution for generations of Americans," tweeted House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. "We will miss his contagious spirit & tireless dedication."
In an interview with The Associated Press in 1986, McLaughlin said he felt talk shows hadn't kept pace with changes in television.
"I began the group as a talk show of the '90s," he said, adding that he thought informing an audience could be entertaining: "The acquisition of knowledge need not be like listening to the Gregorian chant."
Critics said the show was more about show business and entertainment than journalism and politics. They said it celebrated nasty posturing, abhorred complexity and featured a group of mostly aging conservative white men spouting off on topics they knew little about.
"Whether it was the guerrilla strategy of Afghan mujahedeen or the next open-market operation by the Federal Reserve Board, the members of the group always seemed to have just gotten off the phone with the guy in charge," Eric Alterman charged in his 2000 book, "Sound and Fury: The Making of the Punditocracy."
But the format was hugely successful. As McLaughlin himself might have said, on a probability scale from zero to 10 — zero meaning zero probability, 10 meaning metaphysical certitude — in the show's heyday, the chances that the Washington establishment were faithfully tuning in each week was definitely a 10.
The show began with McLaughlin declaring, "Issue One!" and often featured the journalists pontificating on four or five issues. It would end with the journalists forecasting the future — usually with a high degree of certainty, if not accuracy — and McLaughlin declaring, "Buh-bye!"
The show made stars of its panelists, who could go on to command high-priced speaking engagements and even played themselves in movies such as "Independence Day," ''Mission: Impossible" and "Watchmen." McLaughlin also played himself on episodes of "ALF" and "Murphy Brown" and was ridiculed as a speed-talking egomaniac by Dana Carvey on "Saturday Night Live."
The current group of panelists included Pat Buchanan, Eleanor Clift, Tom Rogan and Clarence Page.
"Sad news," Page tweeted. "We lost John McLaughlin this morning. I hear that he smiled before he passed. His final gift to us."
"My parents made us watch him every week," tweeted former "Saturday Night Live" player and current "Late Night" host Seth Meyers, "which made the SNL sketches all the sweeter."
The 1982 pilot featured syndicated columnists Jack Germond and Robert Novak as well as Chuck Stone of the Philadelphia Daily News and Judith Miller of The New York Times. Stone and Miller were quickly replaced by Pat Buchanan and Morton Kondracke.
Fred Barnes and Eleanor Clift were added in 1985, after Buchanan left to become Reagan's communications director, giving the show its first woman.
In July 1984 McLaughlin began hosting "John McLaughlin's One on One," an in-depth interview program. He also hosted a CNBC show, "McLaughlin," from April 1989 to January 1994.
McLaughlin could be a hard boss to work for. A 1990 article in The Washington Post Magazine by Alterman quoted former McLaughlin staffers Anne Rumsey, Kara Swisher and Tom Miller recalling instances of petty tyranny and McLaughlin leering at female employees.
His former office manager, Linda Dean, filed a $4 million lawsuit against McLaughlin in 1988, claiming she was fired after protesting his unwanted sexual advances. McLaughlin denied the allegations; the suit was settled out of court in December 1989.
McLaughlin and his wife of 16 years, former Labor Secretary Ann Dore McLaughlin, divorced three years later.
In 1997, McLaughlin, then 70, married 36-year-old Cristina Vidal, the vice president of his production company. They divorced in 2010.
Born March 29, 1927, McLaughlin grew up in a middle-class neighborhood of Providence, Rhode Island, where his father was a furniture salesman. He trained for the priesthood at Shadowbrook, a small Jesuit seminary in western Massachusetts, and earned master's degrees in philosophy and English at Boston College and a doctorate in communications at Columbia University.
He worked as an editor at a Jesuit weekly and gave lectures on sex before shocking his friends in 1970 by switching parties to run unsuccessfully as a dovish, anti-war Republican against Rhode Island's hawkish incumbent Democratic U.S. senator.
He opened a consulting firm and gave up his Roman collar in 1975 to marry longtime friend Dore, who served as secretary of labor from December 1987 to January 1989. McLaughlin became a talk radio show host on a Washington station in 1980, but only lasted a year.
In 1982, he persuaded wealthy friend Robert Moore, a former aide in the Nixon White House, to underwrite a new form of public affairs television — and a juggernaut was born.
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^ Very nice, Gregzs. Thank you.
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Grew up watching his show... and loved it. Even his short lived interview show John McLaughlin's One on One.
Bye Bye!
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He was a notorious cheapskate. According to Jack Germond (one of many people who became a McLaughlin "enemy" over time), he paid them only 1800 month and with absolutely no allowances of any sort. And Germond gave proof that the "unrehearsed" claim was ridiculously false, too.
4 hours a month not bad for 1800 to sit there and yap.
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4 hours a month not bad for 1800 to sit there and yap.
They had to put more into their appearances than what the opening claims on the show might lead someone to believe ("unrehearsed" "hard talk" and all that).
McLaughlin's girlfriend/"production assistant" would be in contact at least a few times leading up to each show to try to get everyone synched, which required time and effort for the panelist. That's on top of the time and effort needed to prepare material to meet the "Issue One" and so forth. Then it would require checking and re-checking everything throughout the week, too, to make sure it's all current by taping time -- worst thing in the world would be to claim false info without realizing it until too late.
I doubt they cleared even 100 per hour for their effort. But since it trucked-on so well without a shortage of panelists, it tells me that they found other methods to make $$ by way of their presence on the show.
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This one is really funny.
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This is an episode from May 1, 1992, right after the "Rodney King Riots" in Los Angeles.
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^ I watched that one a few years ago, and just watched it again. Eleanor Clift was pretty hot. But what a bunch of hypocrites, when they talk about the solutions for the poor communities -- every single one of them but Germond went on to push for Globalism in the following years.
And what a fucking POS Daryl Gates was. This guy actually predicted the riots, but he didn't prepare for them. The LAPD boss.
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Sad.
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One of the more amusing moments involving Freddie "The Beetle" Barnes, is found in here (from the LA Riots episode).
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^ I watched that one a few years ago, and just watched it again. Eleanor Clift was pretty hot. But what a bunch of hypocrites, when they talk about the solutions for the poor communities -- every single one of them but Germond went on to push for Globalism in the following years.
And what a fucking POS Daryl Gates was. This guy actually predicted the riots, but he didn't prepare for them. The LAPD boss.
you do know that you basically lost credibility with this statement, right???
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you do know that you basically lost credibility with this statement, right???
Who are you kidding - you would hook up w 90 yo if you could.
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Who are you kidding - you would hook up w 90 yo if you could.
A 90 yr old wouldn't want you......what can you offer them besides student loan debt???????
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you do know that you basically lost credibility with this statement, right???
Was it TMI for me to admit thinking that? ;D
I hadn't noticed before, really. Something about watching that clip from 1992 gave me the thought.
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The show will end, reports say. :(
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Wow, I stopped watching McLaughlin last year because I just couldn't take it becoming MSM with no maverick voices left anymore. But I guess Pat Buchanan is backing Trump in a big way, according to his feeds (just saw on the MG site).
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This was posted with something he wrote.
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BUCHANAN: Don’t count out Trump just yet
12:41 p.m. EDT August 19, 2016
“I did it my way,” crooned Sinatra.
Donald Trump is echoing Ol’ Blue Eyes with the latest additions to his staff. Should he lose, he prefers to go down to defeat as Donald Trump, and not as some synthetic creation of campaign consultants.
“I am who I am,” Trump told a Wisconsin TV station, “It’s me. I don’t want to change. ... I don’t want to pivot. ... If you start pivoting, you are not being honest with people.”
The remarks recall the San Francisco Cow Palace where an astonished Republican, on hearing the candidate speak out in favor of “extremism in the defense of liberty,” blurted out, “My God, he’s going to run as Barry Goldwater!”
And so he did. And Goldwater is remembered and revered by many who have long forgotten all the trimmers of both parties who tailored their convictions to suit the times, and lost.
Trump believes populism and nationalism are the future of America, and wants to keep saying so. Nor is this stance inconsistent with recapturing the ground lost in the weeks since he was running even with Hillary Clinton.
The twin imperatives for the Trump campaign are simple ones. They must recreate in the public mind that Hillary Clinton who 56 percent of the nation thought should have been indicted for lying in the server scandal, and who two-thirds of the nation said was dishonest or untrustworthy. Second, Trump must convince the country, as he had almost done by Cleveland, that he is an acceptable, indeed, a preferable alternative.
While the assignment is simple, as Ronald Reagan reminded us, there may be simple answers, but there are no easy ones.
What is the case against Clinton his campaign must make? She is a political opportunist who voted for a war in Iraq, in which she did not believe, that proved ruinous for her country. As secretary of state, she pushed for the overthrow and celebrated the assassination of a Libyan dictator, resulting in a North African haven for al-Qaida and ISIS.
Her reset with Russia was a diplomatic joke. Her incompetence led to the death of a U.S. ambassador and three brave Americans in Benghazi, and she subsequently lied to the families of the dead heroes about why they had died.
Her statements about her server and emails were so perjurious they almost caused FBI Director James Comey to throw up in public. She speaks of Bill, Chelsea and herself as leaving the White House in 2001 in roughly the same conditions of immiseration that the Joads left Dust Bowl Oklahoma in “The Grapes of Wrath.”
But on leaving State, Hillary Clinton was pulling down $225,000 a pop for 20-minute speeches to Goldman Sachs. It’s a long way, baby, from her Children’s Defense Fund days, the recalling of which almost caused Bill Clinton to lose it and break down sobbing at the Philly convention.
What America has in Hillary Clinton is a potential president with the charisma but not the competence of Angela Merkel, and the ethics of Dilma Rousseff.
However, here is the problem for the Trump campaign. While exposing the Clinton character and record is essential, among the primary rules of presidential politics is that you do not use your candidate to do the wet work. Eisenhower had Vice President Nixon do it for him. President Nixon had Vice President Agnew, who was good at it, and enjoyed it.
Yet, still, on the mega-issue, America’s desire for change, and on specific issues, Trump holds something close to a full house. The country wants the border secured and immigration vetting toughened to keep out the kind of terrorists who committed the atrocity in San Bernardino. The country wants an end to the trade deficits with China and the endless export of U.S. factories and manufacturing jobs.
On Americanism versus globalism, the country is with Trump. On an America First foreign policy that keeps us out of trillion-dollar, no-win Middle East wars, the country is with Trump.
On Teddy Roosevelt’s “Speak softly, and carry a big stick,” Ike’s “Peace through strength,” and JFK’s “Let us never fear to negotiate,” the country is with Trump. Americans may not love Vladimir Putin, but they do not wish to go to war with Russia, which we avoided in half a century of Cold War.
Americans do not want to go nation-building abroad, but to start the nation-building at home. On coming down with both feet on rioters, looters, arsonists and Black-Lives-Matter haters who call cops “pigs,” America is all in with Donald Trump.
As for going after Clinton, the media hysteria surrounding the Donald’s new hire, Steve Bannon of Breitbart News, suggests that this may be a fellow who is not without redeeming social value.
Moreover, outside events could conspire against Clinton.
The coming economic news — we had 1 percent growth in the first half of 2016 — could cause a second look at Trumponomics. And whoever is out there strategically dropping Democratic emails may be readying an October surprise for Hillary Clinton, a massive document dump that buries her.
As Yogi Berra reminded us, the game “ain’t over, till it’s over.”
Patrick J. Buchanan is a syndicated columnist.