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Title: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Simple Simon on August 17, 2016, 07:56:17 AM
Better training or better drugs?
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Tapeworm on August 17, 2016, 08:06:50 AM
Chips and lager.  A calorie is a calorie.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 17, 2016, 08:09:02 AM
Kenyans and Ehtiopians have dirt roads and can't afford the bikes.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: viking1 on August 17, 2016, 08:22:51 AM
Both.   Also, backdoor bonuses with striated glutes.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 17, 2016, 08:38:37 AM
The built a top notch training facility for the last Olympics.  They have what's needed to get their athletes in shape.  If you notice.  Australia and China are doing well.  Countries that previously hosted build all the needed infrastructure for athletes for years to come
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SuperTed on August 17, 2016, 08:58:55 AM
It's one of those sports that gets a lot of funding in the UK - as does rowing, swimming and gymnastics.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Grape Ape on August 17, 2016, 09:00:25 AM
Better training or better drugs?

Due to not carrying guns during race.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: pdc on August 17, 2016, 09:37:19 AM
Kenyans and Ehtiopians have dirt roads and can't afford the bikes.


good one
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 09:52:25 AM
It's one of those sports that gets a lot of funding in the UK - as does rowing, swimming and gymnastics.

Simone is dominating gymnastics.  8) 8)

(http://www.nbcolympics.com/sites/default/files/field_gallery_photos/29March2016/Simone-Biles_NUP_171788_3775.jpg)
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 17, 2016, 09:56:15 AM
Simone is dominating gymnastics.  8) 8)

(http://www.nbcolympics.com/sites/default/files/field_gallery_photos/29March2016/Simone-Biles_NUP_171788_3775.jpg)

Broke by 18.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 17, 2016, 09:57:43 AM
Brits do not dominate that much.
Dutch women road race: Gold for Holland, best Britt 5th
Dutch women time trial: Bronze for Holland, best Brit 14th

Men road race: 1st Belgium, no Brit medal
Men time trial: 1st Swiss, 2nd Dutch, 3rd Brit

Keirin women: Dutch Gold.

Rest I don't recall right now, but GB doesn't dominate cycling at all...

Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 09:59:13 AM
Broke by 18.

She's 19  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SuperTed on August 17, 2016, 10:08:36 AM
Simone is dominating gymnastics.  8) 8)

(http://www.nbcolympics.com/sites/default/files/field_gallery_photos/29March2016/Simone-Biles_NUP_171788_3775.jpg)

Yeah, Simone is untouchable but Britain is currently only behind the US in gymnastics - which is an impressive achievement.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 17, 2016, 10:11:06 AM
Brits do not dominate that much.
Dutch women road race: Gold for Holland, best Britt 5th
Dutch women time trial: Bronze for Holland, best Brit 14th

Men road race: 1st Belgium, no Brit medal
Men time trial: 1st Swiss, 2nd Dutch, 3rd Brit

Keirin women: Dutch Gold.

Rest I don't recall right now, but GB doesn't dominate cycling at all...



They have six Golds in cycling. U.S, the medal leader, has none.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Simple Simon on August 17, 2016, 10:31:01 AM
Brits do not dominate that much.
Dutch women road race: Gold for Holland, best Britt 5th
Dutch women time trial: Bronze for Holland, best Brit 14th

Men road race: 1st Belgium, no Brit medal
Men time trial: 1st Swiss, 2nd Dutch, 3rd Brit

Keirin women: Dutch Gold.

Rest I don't recall right now, but GB doesn't dominate cycling at all...



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Rio 2016 cycling medal table
Full cycling medal table
1. Great Britain   6   4   2   12
2. Netherlands   2   2   1   5
3. United States   1   2   0   3
4. Russia           1   0   1   2
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 10:37:18 AM
You either have the best athletes or you don't. Go USA and Britian!!

(http://i65.tinypic.com/33w37gh.png)
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 17, 2016, 11:07:13 AM
All countries higher than Holland got 60+ million inhabitants. Holland got 16 or 17 million.
So what country is really at the top ?
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 17, 2016, 11:45:56 AM
All countries higher than Holland got 60+ million inhabitants. Holland got 16 or 17 million.
So what country is really at the top ?

Jamaica has 3 million and won both the men's and women's 100m Gold.

Kenya 40 million has more track and field Golds than the U.S or England.

The U.S Golds have been mostly in swimming.

Basically, certain countries specialize in certain events.

Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 11:50:51 AM
All countries higher than Holland got 60+ million inhabitants. Holland got 16 or 17 million.
So what country is really at the top ?

It doesn't matter who has the biggest population. Youre comparing apples to apples when it comes to the olympics. You either have the best athletes or you don't. Whether the country has 50 million people or 15 million people, the best will shine through, no matter where they are from.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: WalterWhite on August 17, 2016, 12:03:13 PM
Jamaica has 3 million and won both the men's and women's 100m Gold.

Kenya 40 million has more track and field Golds than the U.S or England.

The U.S Golds have been mostly in swimming.

Basically, certain countries specialize in certain events.



Lot's of articles about their testing policy or lack there of.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2015/02/20/wada-chief-heads-to-jamaica-to-check-on-drug-testing-program/23726083/

"Craig Reedie will become the first WADA president to visit Jamaica, which came under scrutiny following revelations of a complete lack of out-of-competition testing among Usain Bolt and other star athletes in the months before the 2012 London Olympics."

It's catching up to them.
http://news.sky.com/story/five-jamaican-athletes-fail-drug-tests-10440232
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: JackScribber on August 17, 2016, 12:11:08 PM
She's 19  ??? ??? ???

Broke by 20. Crack whore by 21, 3 niglets taken into social services by 23.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 17, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
Lot's of articles about their testing policy or lack there of.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2015/02/20/wada-chief-heads-to-jamaica-to-check-on-drug-testing-program/23726083/

"Craig Reedie will become the first WADA president to visit Jamaica, which came under scrutiny following revelations of a complete lack of out-of-competition testing among Usain Bolt and other star athletes in the months before the 2012 London Olympics."

It's catching up to them.
http://news.sky.com/story/five-jamaican-athletes-fail-drug-tests-10440232

You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

(http://s.libertaddigital.com/2015/08/22/bolt-y-gatlin.jpg)
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: HonestBob on August 17, 2016, 12:24:18 PM
All countries higher than Holland got 60+ million inhabitants. Holland got 16 or 17 million.
So what country is really at the top ?

Your posts are utter drivel. Please delete your account.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: WalterWhite on August 17, 2016, 12:35:38 PM
You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

(http://s.libertaddigital.com/2015/08/22/bolt-y-gatlin.jpg)

Not at all and it's also easy to see where US athletes have failed tests and had medals stripped etc.  US and other countries like Canada and the UK have had to be more careful while Jamaica had a free ride.  Look at their percent of track medals vs population. In 2013 they had six positives and their anti-doping board resigned.

They are now retesting samples as far back as 08 and it may cost them a relay gold.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Parker on August 17, 2016, 12:38:01 PM
Jamaica has 3 million and won both the men's and women's 100m Gold.

Kenya 40 million has more track and field Golds than the U.S or England.

The U.S Golds have been mostly in swimming.

Basically, certain countries specialize in certain events.


US used to dominate T&F. And let's not forget all the foreign athletes that train in the US, but rep their countries.
You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

(http://s.libertaddigital.com/2015/08/22/bolt-y-gatlin.jpg)
Ain't nobody gonna mention Gatlin's tricep? What's his routine for arms?
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: JasonH on August 17, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

(http://s.libertaddigital.com/2015/08/22/bolt-y-gatlin.jpg)

Bolt isn't a lifetime natty by a long way - I can't believe he hasn't been caught. The media hypes him up as the "good" athlete beating all the "evil" like Gatlin etc but its so blatantly obvious that Bolt's at it too. Yes, there's no doubt he has a lot of natural talent, but no-one is running 9.58 secs without some form of assistance.

The vast majority of 100m finalists going back to the 1980s have all failed drug tests at some point in their careers. Bolt must be taking that extra bit of precaution.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
All countries higher than Holland got 60+ million inhabitants. Holland got 16 or 17 million.
So what country is really at the top ?

Blah, blah, blah.

Brazil has 200 million people.

France has 60 million people.

Total Medal Count:

France: 30
Brazil: 11

You either have the best athletes or you don't, regardless of population count.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 01:40:08 PM
Bolt isn't a lifetime natty by a long way - I can't believe he hasn't been caught. The media hypes him up as the "good" athlete beating all the "evil" like Gatlin etc but its so blatantly obvious that Bolt's at it too. Yes, there's no doubt he has a lot of natural talent, but no-one is running 9.58 secs without some form of assistance.

The vast majority of 100m finalists going back to the 1980s have all failed drug tests at some point in their careers. Bolt must be taking that extra bit of precaution.

The issue is that we've been fed this bullcrap line growing up "Anything is possible" or "You could do anything you put your mind to." The fact of the matter is that it's just not true. Every person has biological and environmental limitations. We are all limited in some way, shape or form. As such, even the human body has its genetic limitations and needs assistance to accomplish remarkable feats of strength, endurance, agility, etc.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 17, 2016, 01:48:32 PM
Bolt isn't a lifetime natty by a long way - I can't believe he hasn't been caught. The media hypes him up as the "good" athlete beating all the "evil" like Gatlin etc but its so blatantly obvious that Bolt's at it too. Yes, there's no doubt he has a lot of natural talent, but no-one is running 9.58 secs without some form of assistance.

The vast majority of 100m finalists going back to the 1980s have all failed drug tests at some point in their careers. Bolt must be taking that extra bit of precaution.

Or the Olympic Authorities are more lenient with their superstars. They know who puts the asses in the stadium seats and the eyeballs on the screen. It ain't the Ping Pong players.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Simple Simon on August 17, 2016, 01:52:18 PM
Blah, blah, blah.

Brazil has 200 million people.

France has 60 million people.

Total Medal Count:

France: 30
Brazil: 11

You either have the best athletes or you don't, regardless of population count.
deeper pool of people more chances to have a top athlete.

Its basic maths.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: dj181 on August 17, 2016, 01:56:00 PM
You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

(http://s.libertaddigital.com/2015/08/22/bolt-y-gatlin.jpg)

how about that white French dude?

the only white man to run the 100 in under 10

vive la France  8)
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 17, 2016, 01:57:33 PM
Blah, blah, blah.

Brazil has 200 million people.

France has 60 million people.

Total Medal Count:

France: 30
Brazil: 11

You either have the best athletes or you don't, regardless of population count.

Crapp. Jamaica invests the most in young talented sprint runners.
Russia invested in doping, that's why they and east Germany won so many medals in the 70s and 80s.
It's not about the best athletes, it's about politics.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2016, 01:58:25 PM
deeper pool of people more chances to have a top athlete.

Its basic maths.

And, yet, France has 140 million less people and has more medals than Brazil.  ??? ???
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Simple Simon on August 17, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
how about that white French dude?

the only white man to run the 100 in under 10

vive la France  8)
he thought black men were chasing him.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 17, 2016, 02:00:45 PM
Your posts are utter drivel. Please delete your account.
Honestly, Bob...do some cardio instead of posting here.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 17, 2016, 02:06:15 PM
Crapp. Jamaica invests the most in young talented sprint runners.
Russia invested in doping, that's why they and east Germany won so many medals in the 70s and 80s.
It's not about the best athletes, it's about politics.

Plus Jamaica is only 20th overall right now....
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 17, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
It also comes down the popularity of the sport in the country.

There's are probably some guys in the NFL who could've given Bolt a run, but football offers a better shot at big money.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: local hero on August 17, 2016, 11:50:45 PM
It also comes down the popularity of the sport in the country.

There's are probably some guys in the NFL who could've given Bolt a run, but football offers a better shot at big money.


I was waiting for this one.... This is why you have no top heavy weight boxers etc etc etc


I'm truly amazed at how well we have done, we have a good shout in almost every sport !.... Russia being absent is partly to blame tho.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: phreak on August 18, 2016, 12:21:10 AM

I was waiting for this one.... This is why you have no top heavy weight boxers etc etc etc


I'm truly amazed at how well we have done, we have a good shout in almost every sport !.... Russia being absent is partly to blame tho.
Took a while for someone to say this. With Russia competing the US would be second in the medal standings. Distant second. So... respect to USADA for having a more secretive doping program.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2016, 12:28:38 AM
Took a while for someone to say this. With Russia competing the US would be second in the medal standings. Distant second. So... respect to USADA for having a more secretive doping program.

Russia is competing. They have 41 medals.

And in 2012, USA had 103 medals and Russia had 78.

And in 2008, USA had 110 medals and Russia had 72.

And in 2004, USA had 101 medals and Russia had 91.

Am I doing the math wrong or is 103, 110, and 101, more than 78, 72, and 91?

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: phreak on August 18, 2016, 01:37:04 AM
Russia is competing. They have 41 medals.

And in 2012, USA had 103 medals and Russia had 78.

And in 2008, USA had 110 medals and Russia had 72.

And in 2004, USA had 101 medals and Russia had 91.

Am I doing the math wrong or is 103, 110, and 101, more than 78, 72, and 91?

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
And how many dozens/hundreds of russians were not allowed to compete?
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SuperTed on August 18, 2016, 02:09:24 AM
Wealthier nations tend to perform better in the Olympics since they have better funding.

It also is down to culture. Some nations put more emphasis on Olympic success than others. Less wealthier nations will only perform very well in just a few events due to those events being popular in those places.
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: hardman on August 18, 2016, 02:18:28 AM
US used to dominate T&F. And let's not forget all the foreign athletes that train in the US, but rep their countries.Ain't nobody gonna mention Gatlin's tricep? What's his routine for arms?
you always get one. you think what he does will push your arms into sudden growth? GEEZ!
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: doggler on August 18, 2016, 07:01:44 AM
 Jesus christ. Be happy winning in fucking cycling. :-X
Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on August 18, 2016, 07:25:10 AM
The issue is that we've been fed this bullcrap line growing up "Anything is possible" or "You could do anything you put your mind to." The fact of the matter is that it's just not true. Every person has biological and environmental limitations. We are all limited in some way, shape or form. As such, even the human body has its genetic limitations and needs assistance to accomplish remarkable feats of strength, endurance, agility, etc.

Put it this way to people.

Ben Johnson's fastest time clean was around 10.5 sec. At the 1984 Olympics after juicing 3 years he ran 10.22 to take Bronze. 4 years later to win he ran 9.79. That's juicing for 7 years.

So people who believe Bolt is natural think he is running 9.58 natural when Johnson was running 10.5? So what's Bolt supposed to run juiced then fucking 8.9?

We all know about natural limits. Lifting weights, in reality if you do everything right after 3 years you aren't gaining much in that 4th year if anything and from then on that's it. There's no magic protein, no magic supplement you either juice or that's it. These guys with running it's a little different because they've been running since they were kids so growing up they are going to improve as they grow where as lifting weights we all usually start at least around 16 so during or past maturity. But they are going to hit limits around 19 years old and everyone is fed they can keep improving and improving if they just keep working hard. Also because they are genetically gifted and winning everything as kids the common line is 'He was winning everything as a kid he's not juicing it's genetic talent' which is true but only to a point.

Bolt is smart he's coming off juicing a few weeks out from games because it's not needed (actually hurts staying on according to Charlie Francis, Johnson's coach) and Jamaica is helping him avoid tests when he needs to juice. You can see he's clean a LOT offseason. Maybe he has been caught out with an internal test and they helped him out. Who knows.

Title: Re: Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2016, 07:40:46 AM
And how many dozens/hundreds of russians were not allowed to compete?

I don't know, but were dozens/hundreds also disqualified in 2012, 2008, and 2004? From what I gather, it was just this year.  Clearly, the evidence shows that we have acquired more medals than Russia over the last 3 Olympics.

Also..........

In 2000:

USA: 93
Russia: 89

In 1996:

USA: 101
Russia: 63

Were dozens/hundreds disqualified from these olympics too?  ??? ??? ???