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Russia wants to have it's own Hollywood to help push agendas and use that outlet of push propaganda. How much money would be needed to start such a thing? Would a trillion dollars get things moving? Or would it take much more money? There's endless amounts of untapped resources in the form of actors/movie producers etc who will never get a chance in America's Hollywood because they're not part of "their" tribe. Do you think Russia could someday be a powerhouse and help mold the fabric of the Globe using film/media like Hollywood has done?
http://www.filmjournal.com/content/russia-create-its-own-hollywood-crimea
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About 350.
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Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.
If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...
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Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.
If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...
American Hollywood has "jumped the shark". They keep recycling the same type of garbage except doing it more and more gayer... It's not because there aren't good screenplays. It's because they're stubborn and wont shy away from what made Hollywood-Hollywood and only care about the agenda/propaganda instead of just making good movies.
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American Hollywood has "jumped the shark". They keep recycling the same type of garbage except doing it more and more gayer... It's not because there aren't good screenplays. It's because they're stubborn and wont shy away from what made Hollywood-Hollywood and only care about the agenda/propaganda instead of just making good movies.
I see an advertisement for a Ben Hur remake.....I agree, Hollywood sucks moist ass and they can stuff the shit they try to push down our throats up their collective asses
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Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.
If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...
Sounds like someone hasn't heard of a little film called Ghostbusters III.
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the Brat Pack...
Most getbiggers will have to google this to know what you're talking about.
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Sounds like someone hasn't heard of a little film called Ghostbusters III.
:D
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Is Busters of Capitalist Ghostses
People's Armed Struggle Among Stars
People's Trek Among Stars
Citizen Lenin
A Polit Bureau Now
Gone With Wind
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brilliant move just make another america with no pc bullshit will make people spend money ect
make another america
they have to this route no one knows shit about russia
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Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.
If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...
Hollywood has totally adapted to new media. Are you kidding? They're making gazillions of dollars.
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hollywood is an economy
1 movie gross say 30 million is just enoug pay for 70 people in it
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Great thread, AS. Hollywood is just the "entertainment" wing of the msm.
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Great thread, AS. Hollywood is just the "entertainment" wing of the msm.
Its too fucking much. Seth Rogan shouldn't be banging hot fucking non jew blonds on film. That in my opinion is where these people are taking it way too far. Imagine if the negrows had this power. We would have spike Lee as the leading man in every other movie. Time for Russia to fix this fucking shit. What the fuck is going on In America?
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Its too fucking much. Seth Rogan shouldn't be banging hot fucking non jew blonds on film. That in my opinion is where these people are taking it way too far. Imagine if the negrows had this power. We would have spike Lee as the leading man in every other movie. Time for Russia to fix this fucking shit. What the fuck is going on In America?
Article was from two years ago, though, and this is actually the first I've heard about it (this thread).
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Hollywood has totally adapted to new media. Are you kidding? They're making gazillions of dollars.
No it hasn't. It's an industry in decline and the decline is just starting to pick up speed.
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Great thread, AS. Hollywood is just the "entertainment" wing of the msm.
They can't do anything without making an idiotic political statement, like the commercial with fat slobs Rogan and Amy Shumer in which they bitch about pay inequality between men and women. Do those two morons want this to be equal, too?
(https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/deaths.jpg)
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South Korea is probably the biggest rival to Hollywood, in terms of quality of movies.
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No it hasn't. It's an industry in decline and the decline is just starting to pick up speed.
(https://www.whitehutchinson.com/images/2016/20160206img26.png)
They can't do anything without making an idiotic political statement, like the commercial with fat slobs Rogan and Amy Shumer in which they bitch about pay inequality between men and women. Do those two morons want this to be equal, too?
(https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/deaths.jpg)
Lol, I saw that stupid ass commercial the other night. Fucking Bud Light selling out.
As far as Hollywood goes, it was made by Jews in a time when cinema was the lowest form of media. Say what you want, but they sure have a way of turning lemons in to lemonade.
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Lol, I saw that stupid ass commercial the other night. Fucking Bud Light selling out.
As far as Hollywood goes, it was made by Jews in a time when cinema was the lowest form of media. Say what you want, but they sure have a way of turning lemons in to lemonade.
At the time, it was a new form of entertainment that had mass appeal and provided a relatively inexpensive night out. Now, it's a tired old industry that has to spend more and more to get people interested, and they're failing. Look at the ratings for the last Academy Awards, and the long term network trend. The same is starting to affect cable.
(http://www.stateofthemedia.org/files/2011/01/As-Ratings-Fall-Over-Time-NBC-Fairs-Best.png)
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No it hasn't. It's an industry in decline and the decline is just starting to pick up speed.
(https://www.whitehutchinson.com/images/2016/20160206img26.png)
If I'm reading that correctly, your chart is just box office? The article below states how Hollywood is offsetting that by embracing new media.
The headlines screamed in early 2012: “Movie attendance falls to 16-year low,” “Hollywood in turmoil as DVD sales drop,” and “John Carter Financial Disaster For Disney.”
What goes largely unreported, however, is that the studio have found other ways to make money. Despite all the hand-wringing in the press over losses, the 6 major studios made record profits. Consider Disney for example. Despite the “John Carter” fiasco, the studio made record profit in fiscal 2012. How is this possible?
The studios have found new ways of making money.
1. They are licensing to new media. Since 2010, there has been an explosive growth in license fees for studio-owned TV series, both still-on-the-air and older ones. The big studios have tens of thousands of TV episodes, movies, and animated shorts in their libraries. Price is soaring as the competition heats up between Amazon. Hulu, and Netflix. And they are buying exclusive rights to compete with each other. As a top Warner Bros. executive recently wrote me, “license fees that were chump change two years ago are now mind boggling.” Since studios do not pay for advertising or prints on licensed material, almost all the revenues, except for residuals, goes directly to the bottom line. As a result, the surging license fees have more than compensated for the decline in DVDs.
2. They are also turning Video-On-Demand into another bonanza. While pay-per-view never before produced substantial profits, the proliferation of cable VOD has suddenly made this profitable. By 2012, studio lawyers were working at a feverish pace making agreements with cable networks to carry their new movies, such as the ones which now can be downloaded via HBO and Comcast on iPads, phones and other digital devices. The money that is flowing in from these deals is expected to adds hundreds of millions of dollars to the studios’ bottom lines in the next two years.
3. They are improving foreign yields. The Hollywood studios have found that their 3D comic book and fantasy movies have such enormous appeal in many developing markets, such as Russia, China, South Korea, and Brazil, that they have succeeded in jacking up their share of the box office. In China, for example, which now has 2,500 3D screens, the studios have raised their cut on these blockbusters up from a measly 13 percent to 20 percent. They have also pushed their yields up in many other new markets. Since a single comic book movie, such as Disney and Marvel's "The Avengers" can generate over three-quarters of a billion dollars overseas, the increase in the foreign yield results in a windfall ("The Avengers, for example, took in to date $84 million in China, $63 million in Brazil, $43 million in Russia, and $51 million in South Korea.) So even though the U.S. box office revenue was down in 2011 by 4 percent, the big studios were actually able to make more money as their share by getting higher yields abroad.
4. Studios have reduced production costs by paying stars only a fraction of their official “quote” or asking fee. In exchange for having them sign a “side letter” in which they agree to the cut, studios allow them to claim they got their full fee in the contract. For example, a big name star may have a quote of $10 million, which is inserted in the contract, but he or she will be paid only $2 million. The $8 million vanished through a side letter which the star simultaneously signed relinquishing part of the sum in the contract. Since side letters are kept secret by studios, the star can pretend to receive far more than he does. Stars accept these drastic cuts because they (and their agents and business managers) would rather make a fraction of their quote than no money at all, as long as the world does not find out. For studios, these side letters substantially decrease the cost of making movies.
5. Hollywood’s biggest under-the-radar profit center is television. The major studios (with the exception of Paramount) produce TV series for network and cable television. And cable has become an exceedingly rich lode. The A&E network alone is now valued at over $20 billion. As these cable networks largely rely on Hollywood for their filmed entertainment, they have become its cash cow. A top Time Warner executive recently calculated that over 85% of the company’s profits come from TV.
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If I'm reading that correctly, your chart is just box office? The article below states how Hollywood is offsetting that by embracing new media.
It's all spin. Video on demand, Third World demand for the Product, low balling stars, and a rapidly declining television market as your "cash cow' does not make for a promising future.
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It's all spin. Video on demand, Third World demand for the Product, low balling stars, and a rapidly declining television market as your "cash cow' does not make for a promising future.
Not trying to stir things up but I'm legitimately not following your train of thought. You said Hollywood was declining because they were not embracing new media. I gave you tangible examples of where they actually are not only embracing new media, but making money off it. That does not sound like spin, it sounds like embracing the new landscape to remain profitable.
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Not trying to stir things up but I'm legitimately not following your train of thought. You said Hollywood was declining because they were not embracing new media. I gave you tangible examples of where they actually are not only embracing new media, but making money off it. That does not sound like spin, it sounds like embracing the new landscape to remain profitable.
They "embraced" the new media the same way the music industry did. They were dragged kicking and screaming. Has the download market made as much money as the previous hard copy model? Of course not.
When the home experience started getting better, older people stopped going to the theatres. Hollywoods way of embracing this change was to stop making movies for older audiences and focusing on the 25 and under market. Now, even that demographic isn't buying. They could've catered to older crowds by bringing the product to the customer and showing first run movies on PPV, but they didn't. They hung on to their old model.
I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience in this area, but, when a spokesperson for a company or industry starts talking about foreign markets as their savior, you know there's a problem. Russia, LOL. It means that the home market is either flat or declining. Funny, television used to be viewed by Hollywood as the minor league. Suddenly, it's the cash cow. The younger generation doesn't even watch TV.
At the end of the day, it's about putting eyes in front of the screen and asses in the seats, and Hollywood is doing less and less of it.
http://deadline.com/2016/02/oscars-tv-ratings-2106-viewers-chris-rock-abc-1201711309/
Oscars 2016 TV Ratings Hit 8-Year Low With Chris Rock Return | Deadline
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Cool! I wish Russia all the best in this endeavour. Maybe they can make some original movies unlike Hollywood.
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Copy Hollywood and in majority, its horrible films will be easy for Russian.
But sometimes there is pure gems that Russian will be unable to do.
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If your company was making rotary phones in the 40s, 50s and 60s it was a profitable business. If they kept pushing that product during the push button revolution they'd have ended. Phones then became cordless and ultimately mobile.
The business has changed, hanging on to what worked in the past will cause you to end up like the dinosaurs, a footnote in history.
Foreign markets are where these companies go to unload their surplus rotary phones, but they don't realize these countries can buy their new products via the Internet.
The world has changed....
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is your day job writing porn scripts?
My day job is pimping out your mom, dad, and sisters....
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South Korea is probably the biggest rival to Hollywood, in terms of quality of movies.
I'd say Bollywood and Nollywood in terms of movies being put out.
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I'd say Bollywood and Nollywood in terms of movies being put out.
Russia could hire Ray and Jay and Mason Cutler as it top stars
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i would imagine Russian Hollywood would end up much like American Hollywood, endless repetitive sequels:
"Putin: The Greatest Man, Ever MCXXIV."
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I suspect that Entertainment of the future will be somewhere within the arena of Virtual Reality (VR) and/or Augmented Reality (AR).
Most Getbiggers are most likely already familiar with VR which completely immerses you within a role playing game, but Microsoft has yet to release its system of Augmented Reality (AR) via their new HOLOLENS product which should eventually revolutionize the world of entertainment.
I foresee a combination of both VR and AR within the next ten years in which you can become a participant in an adventure while remaining within your own living room or in a massive theater especially built for this form of entertainment.
Japan is already developing VR suits which will allow you to feel the sensation of what is appearing on the "screen" ... but there is actually no screen involved.
Just a set of eyeware that places you directly within the action surrounding you.
And with that suit from Japan you can feel the bullets tear you apart or the teeth of the dinosaur as he is biting your arm off.
To get a better idea of what is coming up .... Google "Microsoft Hololens" and watch the videos for a quick look into the possible future of entertainment.
As per the Japanese "suit", I believe that one is already in production to enhance porn visualization.
Nothing definite yet, but I suspect that James Cameron and other industrious Hollywood producers are already working on the future of "motion pictures" in the form of VR and AR.
So expect to see VR and AR and a Japanese "suit' all come together to form the next major entertainment revolution.
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Russia has had very nice movie production industry for a long time.
I notice the problem in Russian film industry: they are way too artistic. Tough and even somewhat challenging to follow for a person who has his whole life been watching rapid tempo simple "kill, fuck, do drugs, fuck, kill" -style movies.
The culture was too different for Russian production to break in western market - save the cultural elite.
Nowadays it's of course different as Russian companies can hire people from west to make productions targeting the global audience.
After all, USA owes much to the Hollywood for spreading the Americanism. Americans were genius in that they made their culture easy to swallow for lazy masses... the people who sit in front of their tellies with brains shut off.
I'm not saying America wouldn't have high end culture but it was them who mastered the art of making simple shit for the uneducated masses.
You can take your average Hollywood production to illiterate hut-living fukin' hutu in Swaziland and he would dig it.
But show him a Tchaikovsky ballet... no.
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I've only seen two Bollywood films, but I enjoyed each of them more so than any current SuperHero movie.
Nollywood??? What's that?
I expect Russian films to be dark and somber with historical backgrounds.
I forget the studio behind NICHOLAS (the last Russian Czar) AND ALEXANDRIA (1971) but it has been one of the most memorial movies of my lifetime.
I would like to see Russia's version of that part of history.
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MASS, Well said!
Intelligent and interesting post.
Thanks.
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Universality of Chaplin is more complicated to do than a Tchaikovsky ballet.
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No bad...
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What they should do asap is a movie about Putin.
Leonardo DiCaprio already offered to play 'young' Putin.
It would almost certainly be a global success.
Leonardo DiCaprio: 'I would love to play Vladimir Putin'
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jan/18/leonardo-dicaprio-vladimir-putin-the-revenant
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I hate this new feminist agenda pushing in the new movies coming out its a total turn off.
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I hate this new feminist agenda pushing in the new movies coming out its a total turn off.
Me too.
But then I think... women are humans like us men. It's kind of understandable they want to see females playing bigger roles and being portrayed as something else than typical bimbos. Women make up probably more than half of the mankind and as money is tight, we will see much more stuff being made with women on mind. They have money too these days.
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Universality of Chaplin is more complicated to do than a Tchaikovsky ballet.
But both being crap, it all works out.