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Title: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 02:35:57 PM
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

Whoops.  And before some foo jumps in to ask, yes it is still inaccurate, Trump's likely up much more and this doesn't show it because of inaccurate weighting of Ds and Independents in the likely voter model, but there is the trend. 

All likely voter polls on RCP since midJuly are either Trump winning, like this one, or within the MoE.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 08:07:26 PM
Let's see Hillary do this:

(http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-supplies-575x302.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 08:18:40 PM
None of this shit means fuck-all, so sorry to say, unless it shows state-by-state.  They pull this shit every time.  That's how the big bluff with Romney happened.

I'll look again, but from what I saw it doesn't give a real breakdown.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
RCP is a good place to go for polls
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 09:21:11 PM
None of this shit means fuck-all, so sorry to say, unless it shows state-by-state.  They pull this shit every time.  That's how the big bluff with Romney happened.

I'll look again, but from what I saw it doesn't give a real breakdown.

State by state is fairly worthless also, at least now.  Those polls are mostly from weeks ago during a very volatile period.  Maybe if they conduct more frequently closer to the election there might be some value.  Also they need larger sample sizes and need to be likely voters.  No, everything is pretty shit right now except broad trends done daily on polls that use the same day by day methodology.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 20, 2016, 11:32:45 PM
State by state is all that matters. 

Lol at your suddenly belief that polls are accurate.  Last week they were all bull. 

Trump will always have his 47 percent.  So will Hilary. 
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 11:43:39 PM
When money is bet, I notice people tend to hold right at 75 -25, say.  I don't know what "official" odds might be out there right at the moment.  It would be interesting to know, and I'll look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 12:04:07 AM
Didn't trump claim 80 million in donations in July?

Yes.  It was a lie. 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-fundraising-july-2016-226615




Source: NBC News

The Republican presidential candidate raised $36.6 million in July, according to newly released filings to the Federal Election Committee. But that is $16 million less than his Democratic challenger for the month.

When fundraising by national parties and the super PACs backing the respective candidates are added to the total, team Clinton far outpaces team Trump.

The Democratic National Committee, Clinton and the super PAC backing Clinton, Priorities USA, raised a total of $94.5 million last month.

In comparison, the Republican National Committee, Trump and two super PACs backing Trump, brought in just two-thirds of the Democrats' total: $68.3 million in July.


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-allies-outpace-team-trump-fundraising-n635346
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Las Vegas on August 21, 2016, 12:08:19 AM
He's a billionaire, but Hillary has all the money.  That should tell you something, right there.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 07:17:44 AM
The LA Times poll is definitely showing a trend towards Trump now that he has had a week with nothing the media can pick on much.  Still up today and by more than yesterday.  If this is showing this lead, it means it is really a landslide.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Grape Ape on August 21, 2016, 07:26:01 AM
The LA Times poll is definitely showing a trend towards Trump now that he has had a week with nothing the media can pick on much.  Still up today and by more than yesterday.  If this is showing this lead, it means it is really a landslide.

One poll at one point in time doesn't mean much.   You'll need to see a trend among all polls if something is really happening.

As you can see, the LA Time poll is an outlier right now.   But, this election has been nothing but sheer lunacy all around, so who knows what could happen?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Nirvana on August 21, 2016, 07:30:07 AM
I called a bunch of Hillary supporters and asked who they would vote for and they said Hillary.

So my poll has Hillary winning.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 21, 2016, 09:25:30 AM
I am thinking this election will have one of the lowest turnouts in years. Most people I talk to in real life say they are ready for it to be over. I actually saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "Giant Meteor 2016: just get it over all ready".


I called a bunch of Hillary supporters and asked who they would vote for and they said Hillary.

So my poll has Hillary winning.

Why did you change your signature? I liked your old one.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
One poll at one point in time doesn't mean much.   You'll need to see a trend among all polls if something is really happening.

As you can see, the LA Time poll is an outlier right now.   But, this election has been nothing but sheer lunacy all around, so who knows what could happen?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Take a critical look at what you are posting and what do you notice?  Mostly old data.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Las Vegas on August 21, 2016, 01:04:28 PM
Looking at how money's being put on the line is probably the surest way to detect the entirety of all info which will have or likely may have impact on the outcome.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=791149
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 21, 2016, 01:12:46 PM
Didn't trump claim 80 million in donations in July?

Yes.  It was a lie. 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-fundraising-july-2016-226615




Source: NBC News

The Republican presidential candidate raised $36.6 million in July, according to newly released filings to the Federal Election Committee. But that is $16 million less than his Democratic challenger for the month.

When fundraising by national parties and the super PACs backing the respective candidates are added to the total, team Clinton far outpaces team Trump.

The Democratic National Committee, Clinton and the super PAC backing Clinton, Priorities USA, raised a total of $94.5 million last month.

In comparison, the Republican National Committee, Trump and two super PACs backing Trump, brought in just two-thirds of the Democrats' total: $68.3 million in July.


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-allies-outpace-team-trump-fundraising-n635346

Well...if politico and NBC said it, it must be true.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Immortal_Technique on August 21, 2016, 01:17:46 PM
That Americans vote for a man of such low intelligence is hilarious.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Yamcha on August 21, 2016, 03:16:46 PM
That Americans vote for a man of such low intelligence is hilarious.

Nice sentence
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 06:06:03 PM
That Americans vote for a man of such low intelligence is hilarious.

Yes, a low intelligence Billionaire.  Puhleeez.  Even if was true, it doesn't take much brains to realize flooding the country with more illegals is not a good idea.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 21, 2016, 06:16:59 PM
Yes, a low intelligence Billionaire.  Puhleeez.  Even if was true, it doesn't take much brains to realize flooding the country with more illegals is not a good idea.

Yes, perhaps one of the world beaters who claim Trump is an idiot and unqualified can post a picture of one the buildings that they've built:

(http://cdn-img0.streeteasy.com/nyc/image/32/189335532.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: SaintAnger on August 21, 2016, 06:55:30 PM
Coach, I'm a surprised a guy as enterprising as you wants to be within 10 feet of the average Trump voter.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
Well...if politico and NBC said it, it must be true.

um, trump also said it.   trumps NEW numbers are 12 million shy of his bragged numbers.  Did you start a thread bragging about 80 or 90 million?     

You can accuse NBC of lies, but they link right to trump's 2 statements with 2 different numbers.

keep on attacking the media... worked out super well for President McCain and President Romney too!
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 10:14:37 PM
um, trump also said it.   trumps NEW numbers are 12 million shy of his bragged numbers.  Did you start a thread bragging about 80 or 90 million?     

You can accuse NBC of lies, but they link right to trump's 2 statements with 2 different numbers.

keep on attacking the media... worked out super well for President McCain and President Romney too!


You must be drunk.  Romney?  Yeah he never attacked shot and that was his problem.  Scared of speaking the truth to offend anyone.  If he had any balls he would have doubled down on the 47 percent comment and owned it saying Hell Yeah.  You've been owned all day long cause your girl Hillary is slipping.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: TuHolmes on August 21, 2016, 10:31:35 PM
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

Whoops.  And before some foo jumps in to ask, yes it is still inaccurate, Trump's likely up much more and this doesn't show it because of inaccurate weighting of Ds and Independents in the likely voter model, but there is the trend. 

All likely voter polls on RCP since midJuly are either Trump winning, like this one, or within the MoE.

Actually, it's probably tilted to the republican... So says the LA times.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-polling-differences-20160809-snap-story.html

Using the 0-to-100 scale, however, almost certainly makes the Daybreak poll differ somewhat from other surveys. As with the bounce, any difference that results should shrink as election day gets closer and voters become more certain of their choices.

Finally, some analysts think the Daybreak poll is slightly tilted toward the Republican side because of how it accounts for the way people voted in the last election.

All pollsters weight their results somewhat to make sure their samples match known demographics — the right proportions of men and women, for example, or blacks, whites and Latinos.

The Daybreak poll goes a step further and weights the sample to account for how people say they voted in 2012: It’s set so that 25% of the sample are voters who say they cast a ballot for Mitt Romney and 27% for President Obama. The rest are either too young to have voted four years ago or say they didn’t vote.

The potential problem is that people tend to fib about how they voted. Polls have often found that the percentage of people who say after an election that they voted for the winner exceeds the winner’s actual vote.

If that’s the case this year, then weighting for the vote history would result in slightly too many Republican voters in the sample, which would probably boost Trump’s standing by a point or two.

Unfortunately, there’s no way to know for sure until we can compare the final vote to the poll’s final forecast. Given how long it takes to count all the votes, that answer won’t be available until at least a week after election day.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Griffith on August 22, 2016, 02:14:34 AM
Doesn't Hillary Clinton have a 75% chance of winning?
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Red Hook on August 22, 2016, 05:49:43 AM
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

Whoops.  And before some foo jumps in to ask, yes it is still inaccurate, Trump's likely up much more and this doesn't show it because of inaccurate weighting of Ds and Independents in the likely voter model, but there is the trend. 

All likely voter polls on RCP since midJuly are either Trump winning, like this one, or within the MoE.


but but but Fox news says not to listening to polls because they are all wrong.

So I am guessing that he is "poling the electorate"?
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 08:09:59 AM
The LA Times poll is definitely showing a trend towards Trump now that he has had a week with nothing the media can pick on much.  Still up today and by more than yesterday.  If this is showing this lead, it means it is really a landslide.

what's your take on Trump's new Amnesty position?

Use the existing laws, let the non-felon 11 million illegals stay, and continue obama's existing laws/policy or deporting felons? 

It's a big slap in the face to his supporters who really wanted to depots these 11 million lawbreakers - and that is what they are.

Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 11:24:31 AM
what's your take on Trump's new Amnesty position?

Use the existing laws, let the non-felon 11 million illegals stay, and continue obama's existing laws/policy or deporting felons? 

It's a big slap in the face to his supporters who really wanted to depots these 11 million lawbreakers - and that is what they are.



yes hope to get the answer to this along with many other questions that remain unanswered

 ???
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: funk51 on August 23, 2016, 11:29:28 AM
drumpfs the man.. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: tom joad on August 23, 2016, 12:42:05 PM
It's a big slap in the face to his supporters who really wanted to depots these 11 million lawbreakers - and that is what they are.

Trump's laughing at the losers who flock to his rallies.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 04:51:14 PM
Trump's laughing at the losers who flock to his rallies.

How can they believe ANYTHING He says, after he just revoked the #1 issue he has been pushing from the beginning?

I guarantee, if Trump announces early on he supports obama's amnesty plan, he doesn't win that nomination. 
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 05:34:42 PM
The nominee has abandoned his core support

He needs to curry favor with the mexicans and get the latino vote!
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 23, 2016, 05:41:17 PM
He hasn't abandoned shit.  Watch the Oreilly clip, he's talking about strongly enforcing the law.  He's going to rescind executive order amnesty on day 1.  He's going to deport and remove a huge amount and that's what he says.  Hillary is going to bring in 20 million more.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 05:47:12 PM
He hasn't abandoned shit.  Watch the Oreilly clip, he's talking about strongly enforcing the law.  He's going to rescind executive order amnesty on day 1.  He's going to deport and remove a huge amount and that's what he says.  Hillary is going to bring in 20 million more.

how did you arrive at these conclusions?

 ???

Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 05:53:10 PM
He hasn't abandoned shit.  Watch the Oreilly clip, he's talking about strongly enforcing the law.  He's going to rescind executive order amnesty on day 1.  He's going to deport and remove a huge amount and that's what he says.  Hillary is going to bring in 20 million more.

Yes, he said there will be no deportation force.  OReilly himself pointed it out.

Look, we've all laughed along as you pretended polls only matter when trump leads, etc.  But this is real.  Trump WILL LET the illegals stay if they don't have felonies.  He said before they have to leave, and they can apply to come back.  And he just reversed that.

he is ONLY going to deport the felons - and in case you didn't notice, obama has deported more than any other president in history.  Obama IS deporting the felons.  Trump will keep obama policy "perhaps with maybe a bit more energy".

He fuccked you.  He did it without lube and now you're pretending it was consensual.   It's not.  Trump punked his base here, he changed his minds on deportation for the 11 million illegals.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: MP on August 23, 2016, 05:59:37 PM
Like Trump told the blacks, what do you have to lose with him?

I'm really hoping he wins and am curious to see what he can do.

We know what Hillary will do. More of the same Obama bullshit. Enough of these types of people running/ruining our great country.

I hope "Make America Great Again" becomes more than just a slogan on a hat.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2016, 06:00:08 PM
Thank goodness Killary and Gary "waste of ballot space" Johnson have never changed their opinion or stance on a subject or 240 would be all over that just like he is with Trump.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 06:03:46 PM
the nominee "pivoting" from one ethnicity to the next

It's hard to keep up with who's cock he's sucking

one day it's the black man then it's mexicans the next

scrambling for votes in every direction

it's enough to make your "head spin"!!
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 06:06:03 PM
it's beyond pivoting.

He said he would deport 11 million daily lawbreakers who were bankrupting our nation.  Now, they can stay.  It's that simple.

A whole lot of you lectured me because Gary Johnson was so soft on amnesty.  Well, tonight it's dick stew for you.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2016, 06:07:25 PM
the nominee "pivoting" from one ethnicity to the next

It's hard to keep up with who's cock he's sucking

one day it's the black man then it's mexicans the next

scrambling for votes in every direction

it's enough to make your "head spin"!!

If you're having a hard time keeping up with which middle eastern cock Killary is sucking today, I'd suggest asking 240, he's vehemently keeping track of her every move!
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 06:12:24 PM
If you're having a hard time keeping up with which middle eastern cock Killary is sucking today, I'd suggest asking 240, he's vehemently keeping track of her every move!

I was alerting the "hilary is too sick to run" alarm over a year ago.  I was a birther long before coach and friends.  I said obama should be impeached for fast & furious long before others did.  I called trump a democrat plant in 2011.

Just because I don't get on the daily circle jerk over little things, people think I magically support that piece of shit hilary. I do not.  She's a puppetmaster and trump is her tool to get her elected.   I hate trump worse because he took the spot where an actual conservative could have ran.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2016, 06:19:27 PM
I was alerting the "hilary is too sick to run" alarm over a year ago.  I was a birther long before coach and friends.  I said obama should be impeached for fast & furious long before others did.  I called trump a democrat plant in 2011.

Just because I don't get on the daily circle jerk over little things, people think I magically support that piece of shit hilary. I do not.  She's a puppetmaster and trump is her tool to get her elected.   I hate trump worse because he took the spot where an actual conservative could have ran.
He took that spot doing exactly what every politician does, including your hero Gary "I'll help Killary win" Johnson.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 06:22:04 PM
He took that spot doing exactly what every politician does, including your hero Gary "I'll help Killary win" Johnson.

wait, i thought trump was the anti-politician.  finally, someone to stand up to washington, etc.

Turns out, he lacks integrity like the rest of them.... but also seems to bend over for putin, doesn't understand global politics, claims to know more about ISIS than the friggin generals....

why again, are people supporting him, if he's a lying politician like the rest of them?
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: tom joad on August 23, 2016, 06:22:42 PM
I guarantee, if Trump announces early on he supports obama's amnesty plan, he doesn't win that nomination.  

so Donald now agrees with Jeb that many illegals come out of an "act of love." :o
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
If you're having a hard time keeping up with which middle eastern cock Killary is sucking today, I'd suggest asking 240, he's vehemently keeping track of her every move!

the new campaign manager is a polling expert

"you can't win with just whitey, the numbers don't work"

"we need the mexicans and the blacks!"
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 23, 2016, 06:27:31 PM
wait, i thought trump was the anti-politician.  finally, someone to stand up to washington, etc.

Turns out, he lacks integrity like the rest of them.... but also seems to bend over for putin, doesn't understand global politics, claims to know more about ISIS than the friggin generals....

why again, are people supporting him, if he's a lying politician like the rest of them?

Because his opponent is going to jail. Condi Rice came out today and flat out called Shillary a liar.

I haven't seen one yoga email yet, but poor old Anthony Weiner's wife....bad year to be her
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2016, 06:29:17 PM
wait, i thought trump was the anti-politician.  finally, someone to stand up to washington, etc.

Turns out, he lacks integrity like the rest of them.... but also seems to bend over for putin, doesn't understand global politics, claims to know more about ISIS than the friggin generals....

why again, are people supporting him, if he's a lying politician like the rest of them?
Why support Killary? Why support Gary "give the election to Killary" Johnson? Are you claiming Gary "might as well not even vote" Johnson has intergrity?
Why bother voting at all?
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 06:31:26 PM
how did you arrive at these conclusions?

 ???

(http://why-sci.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kryptonite.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 23, 2016, 06:34:29 PM
(http://why-sci.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kryptonite.jpg)

Are those the pickles from Hillary's pickle jar?  Didn't even offer a goddamn one of the people of Louisiana
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 06:35:17 PM
so Donald now agrees with Jeb that many illegals come out of an "act of love." :o

oh burn
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 23, 2016, 06:37:04 PM
how did you arrive at these conclusions?

 ???

I watched what he actually said you Canadian dipshit.  When he says he is going to enforce the law strongly that means he is going to rescind DAPA and DACA executive orders that Obama issued granting status outside of the law via executive order.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 23, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
Why support Killary? Why support Gary "give the election to Killary" Johnson? Are you claiming Gary "might as well not even vote" Johnson has intergrity?
Why bother voting at all?

Anyone who supports Gary Johnson is a deluded Butthurt Cruzbot pining for daddy to whip him like he did JFK
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 07:03:20 PM
I watched what he actually said you Canadian dipshit.  When he says he is going to enforce the law strongly that means he is going to rescind DAPA and DACA executive orders that Obama issued granting status outside of the law via executive order.

OBEY THE EXISTING LAWS



 ???
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Las Vegas on August 23, 2016, 07:07:13 PM
Not even sure where you Hilary people are coming from with this.  Makes about as much sense as your complaints that someone may reveal emails showing DNC cheating etc.

You have NO ground to stand on, with ANY of it.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
OBEY THE EXISTING LAWS



 ???



Trump spent a year telling us how obama's amnesty laws were inadequate.

Then he magically adopts the Trump positions.   Real classy guy.   Real conservative ;)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 07:30:51 PM
the nominee will change nothing from obama except "maybe" be more energetic about it

his words despite fantasies to the contrary
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: SaintAnger on August 23, 2016, 07:34:01 PM
"We're going to go through a system of laws." - Trump

Yeah. Obama's laws.  LOLOL!!!   ;D

He's caving in to the Latina vote!  Even Trump has a price.  What a pussy!  I love it!   8)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 23, 2016, 07:46:26 PM


Trump spent a year telling us how obama's amnesty laws were inadequate.

Then he magically adopts the Trump positions.   Real classy guy.   Real conservative ;)

You morons don't get it. There are no Obama amnesty laws, those are executive orders NOT laws. Enforcing the existing laws, which are strict, is what needs to happen.  Obama has ordered that not to happen.  From the top down, orders to let them go.

Butthurt Cruz babies want Shillary to let in 20 million more?
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 08:12:34 PM
denial is a powerful thing
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 23, 2016, 08:23:33 PM
denial is a powerful thing

DACA and DAPA end in January 2017.  With the stroke of a pen, as do sanctuary cities.  As does the unfettered immigration of "refugees" from terrorist areas.  The President's powers in these areas are very broad.  Stay in Canada, maybe spend some time looking for Ted Cruz's birth certificate.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 08:34:44 PM
DACA and DAPA end in January 2017.  With the stroke of a pen, as do sanctuary cities.  As does the unfettered immigration of "refugees" from terrorist areas.  The President's powers in these areas are very broad.  Stay in Canada, maybe spend some time looking for Ted Cruz's birth certificate.

lol

you can't just force things to happen by denying reality

life doesn't work that way
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
You morons don't get it. There are no Obama amnesty laws, those are executive orders NOT laws. Enforcing the existing laws, which are strict, is what needs to happen.  Obama has ordered that not to happen.  From the top down, orders to let them go.

Butthurt Cruz babies want Shillary to let in 20 million more?

Obama has kicked out the felons - and booted more illegals than any pres in history. Trump actually once COMPLAINED about that.

Trump will let 11 million illegals stay.  let that sink in.  he's an open borders globalist just like the rest of them.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
You found the LA Times credible enough when you started this thread about their poll.  So....



Trump wavers on pledge to deport 11 million immigrants in U.S. illegally

Source: LA Times

Donald Trump backed away Tuesday from his pledge to deport 11 million immigrants in the country illegally.

It was a dramatic shift for the Republican presidential nominee, whose vow to crack down on illegal immigration has been a pillar of his candidacy.

Trump's reversal highlighted the difficulty he faces in trying to broaden his appeal without turning off his most fervent supporters.

His statements came in response to a Fox News question on whether he would adjust immigration laws to “accommodate those people that contribute to society, have been law abiding, have kids here.”

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-trump-wavers-on-pledge-to-deport-11-1472004583-htmlstory.html
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 23, 2016, 08:53:25 PM
Obama has kicked out the felons -

And let in....

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/734434?section=Newsfront&keywords=muslim-immigrant-green-card-obama&year=2016&month=06&date=17&id=734434&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main&oref=www.google.com
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 23, 2016, 09:04:46 PM
the nominee betrays his most fanatical supporters

begging shamelessly for ethnic votes at every opportunity

Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2016, 09:17:09 PM
the nominee betrays his most fanatical supporters
begging shamelessly for ethnic votes at every opportunity

He wants to de-motivate his base so hliary will win.   This is how a dem plant would do it.  no upside to it.  It's not like ten million hispanics will magically support him - but it could mean 2 million base voters don't bother.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 24, 2016, 04:13:43 AM
He wants to de-motivate his base so hliary will win.   This is how a dem plant would do it.  no upside to it.  It's not like ten million hispanics will magically support him - but it could mean 2 million base voters don't bother.

a savage attack, almost unbelievable until you revisit the pattern.

kill the base, it's the final solution   
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: Never1AShow on August 24, 2016, 05:40:32 AM
Straw man lies based on articles interpreting what he said, not what he actually says.  You and the rest of the Ted Cruz teddy bear amnesty Butthurt crowd have been doing this forever.  Just accept that your guy was a loser, who is now through.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mazrim on August 24, 2016, 07:33:26 AM
Haha, another thread where 240 and Turbo talk back and forth to each other patting each other on the back over nonsense. Never fails.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: AD2100 on August 24, 2016, 08:36:41 AM
Yes, a low intelligence Billionaire.  Puhleeez.  Even if was true, it doesn't take much brains to realize flooding the country with more illegals is not a good idea.
Your worship of wealthy people is silly. And Drumpf is not a billionaire.  ::)

Y'all watch FOX all day and then cry in disbelief on election night.  :D
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: SaintAnger on August 24, 2016, 09:17:14 AM
And let in....

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/734434?section=Newsfront&keywords=muslim-immigrant-green-card-obama&year=2016&month=06&date=17&id=734434&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main&oref=www.google.com

You're quoting extreme far right "news" websites.  Again.  Really?
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2016, 09:20:05 AM
You're quoting extreme far right "news" websites.  Again.  Really?

coach has been posting alex jones/ infowars.com shit lately.  Love it!

Coach loves alex jones 1990s stuff, where he was all about the clinton body count.
Coach loves 2008-2015 stuff, where he said obama was born in kenya.
Coach loves 2016 alex jones stuff, where he punks hilary's health.

BUT Coach thinks Alex Jones is a crazy nutjob from 2001-2008 with all his 'accusing bush/cheney' of 911' stuff....

Yes, coach.  Welcome to the club ;)
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: mr.turbo on August 24, 2016, 10:39:27 AM
the nominee will OBEY OBAMAS LAWS on immigration

OBEY OBAMA


Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2016, 10:49:39 AM
the nominee will OBEY OBAMAS LAWS on immigration

OBEY OBAMA




But he'll maybe perhaps enforce them with 'more energy'.

Even ann coulter said trump is panicking.   We're not even to the debates yet and trump is already melting.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: TuHolmes on August 24, 2016, 10:53:10 AM
Now that Clinton is back up by 2 with the LA times, are polls right or wrong?

I just want to know what we believe today.
Title: Re: Trump back in lead in LA Times Poll
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2016, 11:17:42 AM
Now that Clinton is back up by 2 with the LA times, are polls right or wrong?

I just want to know what we believe today.

even FOX news was shitting all over the trump spokesman trying to say all polls are flawed... when he was boasting about the polls 2 weeks ago when trump was doing well.

dana perino went out of her way to say, over and over, "I was wrong in 2012 and won't be wrong again, by doubting polls"


It's always like this.  2008 and 2012.   Repubs saw the trends, realized they were about to lose by 5 or 8 states, and decided to just doubt the math behind the polls.    Happens every time.

And mark my words... the day before the election, Drudge's headline WILL be something like "new poll shows trump within margin of error" or "Clinton 50, Trump 49".   Happens every election.  Some last minute obscure link to give repubs hope, and it's always the drudge headline.