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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-n-police-kill-unarmed-deaf-mute-man-sign-language-article-1.2760714 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-n-police-kill-unarmed-deaf-mute-man-sign-language-article-1.2760714)
FYI, they claimed the mute man had a gun.
Bureau found nothing.
Cop "veteran" had 2 years experience out the academy.
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'Murica.
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Police Officer just wanted a paid vacation to see the Giants play the cowboy in Dallas
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Typical.
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#BlueLivesMatter and #AllLivesMatter pussies on Facebook are dead silent when it comes to these sort of incidents.
Cock worshipers. ::)
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The article title says they killed a man using sign language. Who knew sign language was so deadly? I have much to learn in this lifetime.
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you see something like this and all that support you felt for cops goes out the window.
I dont think its a case of too many bad apples. Its just that the training produces bad cops and its actually amazing we dont get more deadly encounters with these cops, who are not trained to protect the citizenry first.
One simple rule change would fix this. If a cop shoots without being first shot at, He's done. No excuses. And yes this includes situations where the perp has or appears to have a gun. The cop should be actively trying to de-escalate the situation while keeping out of harms way and calling for backup. You just cant go around killing people cus you're scared for your life.
fucking find another job if thats the case.
And whats with always aiming for center-mass like an amateur, thats shooting to kill everytime. Cops should be expert marksmen if they are gonna be armed with guns and should be able to hit shoulder or leg from a good distance away. The truth is, most cops are no better than the average gun range jockey with their service weapons and its a fucking shame.
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you see something like this and all that support you felt for cops goes out the window.
I dont think its a case of too many bad apples. Its just that the training produces bad cops and its actually amazing we dont get more deadly encounters with these cops, who are not trained to protect the citizenry first.
One simple rule change would fix this. If a cop shoots without being first shot at, He's done. No excuses. And yes this includes situations where the perp has or appears to have a gun. The cop should be actively trying to de-escalate the situation while keeping out of harms way and calling for backup. You just cant go around killing people cus you're scared for your life.
fucking find another job if thats the case.
And whats with always aiming for center-mass like an amateur, thats shooting to kill everytime. Cops should be expert marksmen if they are gonna be armed with guns and should be able to hit shoulder or leg from a good distance away. The truth is, most cops are no better than the average gun range jockey with their service weapons and its a fucking shame.
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I'm sure the brave officer was in fear of his life and just trying to protect all North Carolina residents from this evil, mumbling speeder.
Anyone can mistake a hand signal for a loaded weapon, no?
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So far we know 2 troopers tried to stop him for 6 miles, even bumping his car at one point. We know now he was unarmed. I'm willing to wait to see what else transpired
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So far we know 2 troopers tried to stop him for 6 miles, even bumping his car at one point. We know now he was unarmed. I'm willing to wait to see what else transpired
don't care what happened for the 6 miles.
once he was no longer driving, they weren't allowed to 'punish' him with bullets for what he did. No longer that same threat.
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So far we know 2 troopers tried to stop him for 6 miles, even bumping his car at one point. We know now he was unarmed. I'm willing to wait to see what else transpired
Of course you are willing to wait -- It's a great pity them cops couldn't wait.
So their answer is Shoot him. Fucking Pathetic Murderers -- Why don't all the
Cops scared for their lives just leave & go get other work,
Instead of Shooting People dead & Always Hiding Behind ' I Was Scared For My Life'
Like I said Pathetic Murderers --- Stop embarrassing yourself all ways trying to find some
Excuse For Their Killing People.
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Was it Lou Ferigno?
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don't care what happened for the 6 miles.
Cops sure do, gives 'em a heads up. Ya gun-totin' fairy.
Why are deafs driving anyhoo? If you can't hear sirens, bus/taxi/Uber/walk your shit.
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Cops sure do, gives 'em a heads up. Ya gun-totin' fairy.
Why are deafs driving anyhoo? If you can't hear sirens, bus/taxi/Uber/walk your shit.
Because they pass the driving tests as anyone else does, and are therefore allowed to drive.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-n-police-kill-unarmed-deaf-mute-man-sign-language-article-1.2760714 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-n-police-kill-unarmed-deaf-mute-man-sign-language-article-1.2760714)
FYI, they claimed the mute man had a gun.
Bureau found nothing.
Cop "veteran" had 2 years experience out the academy.
Well, at least he wasn't black..
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Cops sure do, gives 'em a heads up. Ya gun-totin' fairy.
Why are deafs driving anyhoo? If you can't hear sirens, bus/taxi/Uber/walk your shit.
Huh?
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How was the poor hero supposed to know that this is the deaf sign for "I'm sorry for speeding, officer. I know you just want to do your job and get home to your family."
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So far we know 2 troopers tried to stop him for 6 miles, even bumping his car at one point. We know now he was unarmed. I'm willing to wait to see what else transpired
I'm sure it's just an oversight, but you missed a minor detail in the "what we know" category......the unarmed, handicapped man is dead. For speeding. If the pursuing cops radioed his plates in while in pursuit, would it come back that he was deaf?
If you want to know what else transpired, ask his neighbors and family. They had ringside seats to the event.
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So far we know 2 troopers tried to stop him for 6 miles, even bumping his car at one point. We know now he was unarmed. I'm willing to wait to see what else transpired
Did you get in under the new lower standards for cops? Or did you get in before they lowered the standards to monkey IQ level?
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cops shoot people in the USA because every man and his dog is carrying a gun, chances are every traffic stop is a life and death situation.
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cops shoot people in the USA because every man and his dog is carrying a gun, chances are every traffic stop is a life and death situation.
Don't know where you get your facts from.....my dog is unarmed. 😀
Every traffic stop is a life and death situation. I agree. The reason? Because of situations like the thread topic. Some inexperienced lowlife with a gun is on the streets for 8-10 hours a day. People think he's "ok" because he has a stupid looking uniform on? Big mistake......
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Don't know where you get your facts from.....my dog is unarmed. 😀
Every traffic stop is a life and death situation. I agree. The reason? Because of situations like the thread topic. Some inexperienced lowlife with a gun is on the streets for 8-10 hours a day. People think he's "ok" because he has a stupid looking uniform on? Big mistake......
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Obvious criminal for at least half of his life.....
This one does not look good for the cops but you are constantly blindly attacking them in other situations where they have done nothing wrong. Only conclusion is that you spent some time in the slammer for some "fake" charge that you did not do.....
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Getbig detectives, what are the facts that we know in this case?
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Obvious criminal for at least half of his life.....
This one does not look good for the cops but you are constantly blindly attacking them in other situations where they have done nothing wrong. Only conclusion is that you spent some time in the slammer for some "fake" charge that you did not do.....
Show me a person who has been a criminal for half their life and I'll show you a 40 year old pig with 20 years on the job.
And I don't blindly attack anyone.....both eyes are always fully open, literally and figuratively.
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Was it Lou Ferigno?
ahahahahahah so fucked up....
but this is seriously awful... Training needs to be evaluated. The potential cops should be mentally evaluated. this is pretty fucked.
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Because they pass the driving tests as anyone else does, and are therefore allowed to drive.
Good point. What could possibly go wrong, huh.
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Good point. What could possibly go wrong, huh.
I don't know. Probably the same things that go wrong every day by people who can hear perfectly well?
In today's cars, they are so sound proof and sealed that if you have a radio and the AC on, you can't hear anything anyway.
It's the same thing.
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Show me a person who has been a criminal for half their life and I'll show you a 40 year old pig with 20 years on the job.
And I don't blindly attack anyone.....both eyes are always fully open, literally and figuratively.
Yet they will be the first people you call when you are in the shit.
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Yet they will be the first people you call when you are in the shit.
No, they're the first assholes people like YOU call. I have no need for their worthless service.
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Yet they will be the first people you call when you are in the shit.
I never understood this defense of cops.
Yes, we call them when we need help. But they are PAID to do this. I would never tolerate a child molester teacher because, well, I bet he's the first person you call when you need an education for your child..."
No, any cop who commits a crime - including standing by and pretending to see nothing while another cop breaks the rule - should be fired and replaced with another cop who will actually do what the job requires.
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I don't know. Probably the same things that go wrong every day by people who can hear perfectly well?
In today's cars, they are so sound proof and sealed that if you have a radio and the AC on, you can't hear anything anyway.
It's the same thing.
Which brings up another issue. You know these fuckers got both hands "singing" along to the vibrations.
Too risky.
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Trump: I Would Stop Crime By Letting ‘Tough’ Cops Take Charge
Pushed by Fox News host Bill O’Reilly to provide specifics on curbing violent crime in cities like Chicago, Donald Trump said Monday that he would simply put “tough” cops in charge.
“So, specifically, specifically. How do you do it? How do you do it?” O’Reilly asked.
“I know police in Chicago,” Trump replied. “If they were given the authority to do it, they would get it done.”
“How? How?” O’Reilly pressed.
“You have unbelievable—how? By being very much tougher than they are right now,” Trump said. “They are right now not tough. I mean, I could tell you this very long and quite boring story but when I was in Chicago, I got to meet a couple of very top police. I said, ‘How do you stop this? How do you stop this? If you were put in charge,’ to a specific person, ‘Do you think you could stop it?’ He said, ‘Mr. Trump, I would be able to stop it in one week.’ And I believed him 100 percent.”
Trump, who has actively courted the endorsement of the national Fraternal Order of Police union and campaigned as the “law and order” candidate said that he would serve as a “cheerleader for the police” as president.
Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-oreilly-stop-crime-tough-police
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Trump: I Would Stop Crime By Letting ‘Tough’ Cops Take Charge
Pushed by Fox News host Bill O’Reilly to provide specifics on curbing violent crime in cities like Chicago, Donald Trump said Monday that he would simply put “tough” cops in charge.
“So, specifically, specifically. How do you do it? How do you do it?” O’Reilly asked.
“I know police in Chicago,” Trump replied. “If they were given the authority to do it, they would get it done.”
“How? How?” O’Reilly pressed.
“You have unbelievable—how? By being very much tougher than they are right now,” Trump said. “They are right now not tough. I mean, I could tell you this very long and quite boring story but when I was in Chicago, I got to meet a couple of very top police. I said, ‘How do you stop this? How do you stop this? If you were put in charge,’ to a specific person, ‘Do you think you could stop it?’ He said, ‘Mr. Trump, I would be able to stop it in one week.’ And I believed him 100 percent.”
Trump, who has actively courted the endorsement of the national Fraternal Order of Police union and campaigned as the “law and order” candidate said that he would serve as a “cheerleader for the police” as president.
Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-oreilly-stop-crime-tough-police
What an idiotic thought process..... "Tough" cops are the main reason people are anti-cop these days. If the nest head authorizes forceful pig actions, he can expect more people to shoot the cowards during traffic stops....and he can look forward to events such as the Dallas misunderstanding happening on a regular basis.
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No, they're the first assholes people like YOU call. I have no need for their worthless service.
another gun toting wannabe like AJ?
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another gun toting wannabe like AJ?
No, he's a black and dislikes police because they were mean to him.
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What an idiotic thought process..... "Tough" cops are the main reason people are anti-cop these days. If the nest head authorizes forceful pig actions, he can expect more people to shoot the cowards during traffic stops....and he can look forward to events such as the Dallas misunderstanding happening on a regular basis.
trump wants to make america 1950s again, because that is when he felt it was great.
many right-wingers have this fantasy viewpoint of the world, with pickups and picnics and rifles in windows and the certain races knowing their places. 1950s stuf. Happy Days for them.
Cops "being tough"? Um, how about cops follow the fcking law like the rest of us. Cops are plenty tough. nobody is slapping them around like those british bobbies. But if being tough is kicking a motherfccker in the face when he's in cuffs, then yes, enjoy it trump.
Trump = dem plant. I cannot see how anyone still doubts it. Just blew off his base on amnesty, just like that. Fucked them all.
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One simple rule change would fix this. If a cop shoots without being first shot at, He's done. No excuses. And yes this includes situations where the perp has or appears to have a gun. The cop should be actively trying to de-escalate the situation while keeping out of harms way and calling for backup. You just cant go around killing people cus you're scared for your life.
fucking find another job if thats the case.
And whats with always aiming for center-mass like an amateur, thats shooting to kill everytime. Cops should be expert marksmen if they are gonna be armed with guns and should be able to hit shoulder or leg from a good distance away. The truth is, most cops are no better than the average gun range jockey with their service weapons and its a fucking shame.
LOL and thus why the majority of people who know what they're talking about think black lives matter supporters are fucking idiots
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Which brings up another issue. You know these fuckers got both hands "singing" along to the vibrations.
Too risky.
While it is possible, I don't know if it a norm.
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No, he's a black and dislikes police because they were mean to him.
I'm whiter than Frosty the Snowman.....who in this pic has just finished fucking your mom.
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While it is possible, I don't know if it a norm.
Yes. We all know how they are, the deafs. With their gangsta rap, hands off the wheel, signing all the fucking lyrics.
Driving is a privilege, Tu. The deaf are unprivileged.
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When restaurants are visited for a health inspection, its an independent party--I assume someone from the city or state that has no ties to the restaurant (not someone who works for the restaurant).
Whey when cops are investigated, its higher ups in the police force or IA? They are all on the same team. Strange.
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When restaurants are visited for a health inspection, its an independent party--I assume someone from the city or state that has no ties to the restaurant (not someone who works for the restaurant).
Whey when cops are investigated, its higher ups in the police force or IA? They are all on the same team. Strange.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/04/42/63/0442631e6bb1cf38f78755583f6a1224.jpg)
Shut up, stupid.
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trump wants to make america 1950s again, because that is when he felt it was great.
many right-wingers have this fantasy viewpoint of the world, with pickups and picnics and rifles in windows and the certain races knowing their places. 1950s stuf. Happy Days for them.
Cops "being tough"? Um, how about cops follow the fcking law like the rest of us. Cops are plenty tough. nobody is slapping them around like those british bobbies. But if being tough is kicking a motherfccker in the face when he's in cuffs, then yes, enjoy it trump.
Trump = dem plant. I cannot see how anyone still doubts it. Just blew off his base on amnesty, just like that. Fucked them all.
Bingo, 240. I am still not sure why people are not listening to you. ??? ???
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Bingo, 240. I am still not sure why people are not listening to you. ??? ???
Shut up, stupid.
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'Murica.
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trump wants to make america 1950s again, because that is when he felt it was great.
many right-wingers have this fantasy viewpoint of the world, with pickups and picnics and rifles in windows and the certain races knowing their places. 1950s stuf. Happy Days for them.
Cops "being tough"? Um, how about cops follow the fcking law like the rest of us. Cops are plenty tough. nobody is slapping them around like those british bobbies. But if being tough is kicking a motherfccker in the face when he's in cuffs, then yes, enjoy it trump.
Trump = dem plant. I cannot see how anyone still doubts it. Just blew off his base on amnesty, just like that. Fucked them all.
240,
Wouldn't you say most cop haters are just pussy twinks with a family/friend cop what bullied them at some point? Or someone always on the outs with law?
Or is it just a short dick thing?
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When restaurants are visited for a health inspection, its an independent party--I assume someone from the city or state that has no ties to the restaurant (not someone who works for the restaurant).
Whey when cops are investigated, its higher ups in the police force or IA? They are all on the same team. Strange.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/04/42/63/0442631e6bb1cf38f78755583f6a1224.jpg)
Yes very good point - has always puzzled me why this happens.
Hardly likely to be a impartial view / investigation.
Scumbags are scumbags wether they be white trailer trash - Mexicans - Dindu's or cops etc.
Get rid of them - don't cover & protec them.
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240,
Wouldn't you say most cop haters are just pussy twinks with a family/friend cop what bullied them at some point? Or someone always on the outs with law?
Or is it just a short dick thing?
Hahaha....
What could be more of a pussy twink move than chasing down an unarmed deaf man and shooting him dead?
Oh wait....I have one: A fucktard who defends their cowardly actions.
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Hahaha....
What could be more of a pussy twink move than chasing down an unarmed deaf man and shooting him dead?
Oh wait....I have one: A fucktard who defends their cowardly actions.
woah
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Ehhh, I just gotta ask you one question, something I can't figure out...is that a gun or your finger?
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Ha..ha...Deacon is obviously an ex-con...or present con....There are 34,000 arrests every day in this country....Every one isn't going to be perfect, but we have a pretty good cops. Incidently, i believe this cop was Black.
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Ha..ha...Deacon is obviously an ex-con...or present con....There are 34,000 arrests every day in this country....Every one isn't going to be perfect, but we have a pretty good cops. Incidently, i believe this cop was Black.
This thread isn't about the 33,999 arrests that you masturbate to, old gold asshole.
It's about a cop who killed an unarmed deaf man for allegedly speeding. If the dead man were your relative, you would probably think of this incident a bit differently.
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This thread isn't about the 33,999 arrests that you masturbate to, old gold asshole.
It's about a cop who killed an unarmed deaf man for allegedly speeding. If the dead man were your relative, you would probably think of this incident a bit differently.
lol
:'( boo hoo
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I don't get the shoot first attitude of police.. Why not stun gun him, shoot the tires out, ram the car and disable it.
aren't these guys suppose to be trained on how to subdue someone?
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This thread isn't about the 33,999 arrests that you masturbate to, old gold asshole.
It's about a cop who killed an unarmed deaf man for allegedly speeding. If the dead man were your relative, you would probably think of this incident a bit differently.
Exactly, convict. So why is it each time you automatically start calling out the cops even when they are shortly proven innocent? Your first thought is that they are the ones in the wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. Use your brain and take each case on its own.
Where you the guy who robbed a bank then came back with the money and apologized? Sorry, convict, but there are consequences to your actions.
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What could be more of a pussy twink move than chasing down an unarmed deaf man and shooting him dead?
anyone who shoots a deaf man certainly suffers from micropenis.
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Exactly, convict. So why is it each time you automatically start calling out the cops even when they are shortly proven innocent? Your first thought is that they are the ones in the wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. Use your brain and take each case on its own.
Where you the guy who robbed a bank then came back with the money and apologized? Sorry, convict, but there are consequences to your actions.
Maybe you're right, sir. Perhaps I've been a bit hasty in judging the brave people that keep us all safe.
Hahahahaha.....
And no..... Wasn't me who returned stolen money. I hate doing returns....even at Target.
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anyone who shoots a deaf man certainly suffers from micropenis.
Because the dude's car had the official "Deaf Driver on Board" decal, right.
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cops shoot people in the USA because every man and his dog is carrying a gun, chances are every traffic stop is a life and death situation.
Amazing how they refuse to see the problem isn't it.
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*not black
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*not black
Definitely not black. All Jew. :D
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When restaurants are visited for a health inspection, its an independent party--I assume someone from the city or state that has no ties to the restaurant (not someone who works for the restaurant).
Whey when cops are investigated, its higher ups in the police force or IA? They are all on the same team. Strange.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/04/42/63/0442631e6bb1cf38f78755583f6a1224.jpg)
hahah valid point but then again anybody that investigates them will be from the government so you're always going to have that conflict of interest.
Given the response to a lot of investigations conducted by the DOJ people are going to believe what they want to believe...Mike Brown, Hands up bullshit ring a bell?
Shit that's still the mantra of the black lives movement...
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I'm sure it's just an oversight, but you missed a minor detail in the "what we know" category......the unarmed, handicapped man is dead. For speeding. If the pursuing cops radioed his plates in while in pursuit, would it come back that he was deaf?
If you want to know what else transpired, ask his neighbors and family. They had ringside seats to the event.
actually, we will find out what the neighbors had to say. I can share with you my experience of eye witnesses during an event. Many will say "Yes officer I saw the crash"
ok good, what did you see?
Well, I was at the stop light, and I heard tires screeching, and I heard this big crash, and when I looked over, I saw both vehicles all messed up and smoke coming from the engine of the red car...
So.....you didn't actually witness the crash?
Again.. lets wait and see what the affidavits say verses the poorly questioned TV interviews that reminded me of those very issues.
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When restaurants are visited for a health inspection, its an independent party--I assume someone from the city or state that has no ties to the restaurant (not someone who works for the restaurant).
Whey when cops are investigated, its higher ups in the police force or IA? They are all on the same team. Strange.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/04/42/63/0442631e6bb1cf38f78755583f6a1224.jpg)
reasonable thought based on lack of information
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reasonable thought based on lack of information
Lol then who investigates cops?
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Lol then who investigates cops?
Depends.. at the minimum a police shooting team, an Special Investigations Unit, and Internal Affairs. A request can be made to the DOJ for an independent investigation. The criteria when determining a shoot is reasonable is basically the facts and circumstances leading up to the trigger being pulled at that very moment and what the cop knew at that very moment. Hind sight is taken out of the equation. In my experience the conclusion is correct that vast majority of the time.
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Quote from: Agnostic007 on 23-08-2016, 04:10:20
So far we know 2 troopers tried to stop him for 6 miles, even bumping his car at one point. We know now he was unarmed.
I'm willing to wait to see what else transpired
Of course you are willing to wait -- It's a great pity them cops couldn't wait.
So their answer is Shoot him. Fucking Pathetic Murderers -- Why don't all the
Cops scared for their lives just leave & go get other work,
Instead of Shooting People dead & Always Hiding Behind ' I Was Scared For My Life'
Like I said Pathetic Murderers --- Stop embarrassing yourself all ways trying to find some
Excuse For Their Killing People.
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Depends.. at the minimum a police shooting team, an Special Investigations Unit, and Internal Affairs. A request can be made to the DOJ for an independent investigation. The criteria when determining a shoot is reasonable is basically the facts and circumstances leading up to the trigger being pulled at that very moment and what the cop knew at that very moment. Hind sight is taken out of the equation.
In my experience the conclusion is correct that vast majority of the time. ----- This --- of course it is Your a cop & they are cops -- ::) Not hard to workout is it.
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Yet they will be the first people you call when you are in the shit.
No, they're the first assholes people like YOU call. I have no need for their worthless service.
HAHAHA so true, only naive people call the cops for help. Those of us with life experience know they are USELESS and often make the situation WORSE.
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Bingo, 240. I am still not sure why people are not listening to you. ??? ???
'cos we all know he is a rat fuck liar
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HAHAHA so true, only naive people call the cops for help. Those of us with life experience know they are USELESS and often make the situation WORSE.
How do you not-naive cowboys get insurance to pay up without a police report, then?
Or does being a fuck-the-cops badass mean you also don't deal with insurance companies? On accounta being too badass to ever have accidents and such?
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'cos we all know he is a rat fuck liar
This
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How do you not-naive cowboys get insurance to pay up without a police report, then?
Or does being a fuck-the-cops badass mean you also don't deal with insurance companies? On accounta being too badass to ever have accidents and such?
Insurance has never had a problem paying out without a police report for me.
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Insurance has never had a problem paying out without a police report for me.
Excellent point.
So who needs cops, yeah?
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Excellent point.
So who needs cops, yeah?
Got me... I have never personally "needed" one.
I think you have to look at the reality of the police... They are not there to "protect" anything. They are not there to "stop" crime.
They are there to report on crime and to make people who commit crimes end up accountable for their actions.
They arrest people after acts have occurred. That is just the job, plain and simple.
I'm not saying that they are terrible or whatever, I'm just being real about what the function of police is.
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Got me... I have never personally "needed" one.
I think you have to look at the reality of the police... They are not there to "protect" anything. They are not there to "stop" crime.
They are there to report on crime and to make people who commit crimes end up accountable for their actions.
They arrest people after acts have occurred.
Another brilliant observation.
So when some kids shoot up a Colorado high school, say; or a misguided Asian immigrant unloads on twenty-something Virginians ... cops simply report? San Berdoo/Orlando, perhaps, just there to write shit down?
Who ends the threat, then?
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Another brilliant observation.
So when some kids shoot up a Colorado high school, say; or a misguided Asian immigrant unloads on twenty-something Virginians ... cops simply report? San Berdoo/Orlando, perhaps, just there to write shit down?
Who ends the threat, then?
It is quite accurate, if not brilliant... I'll take the compliment though.
I didn't say that they only report.
I said.
They are there to report on crime and to make people who commit crimes end up accountable for their actions.
They arrest people after acts have occurred. That is just the job, plain and simple.
That includes stopping a threat, but the crime has already occurred.
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It is quite accurate, if not brilliant... I'll take the compliment though.
I didn't say that they only report.
I said.
That includes stopping a threat, but the crime has already occurred.
No, you're just trying to salvage your bullshit is all.
But you've come around. Yes, TOTALLY need cops to handle shit we can't from Tu many miles away.
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No, you're just trying to salvage your bullshit is all.
But you've come around. Yes, TOTALLY need cops to handle shit we can't from Tu many miles away.
No, I have made the exact same statements.
My statements were quite clear. They are not there to stop crime. You just implied your own reason to my statements which were not ONLY reporting, but still not STOPPING crime.
See, they are two different things.
You realize you are wrong in your interpretation of my statement, but you refuse to acknowledge it.
It's cool though. You have had to do that a few times.
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How do you not-naive cowboys get insurance to pay up without a police report, then?
Or does being a fuck-the-cops badass mean you also don't deal with insurance companies? On accounta being too badass to ever have accidents and such?
I have made insurance claims WITHOUT the cops involvement. I have also had cops not want to investigate the crime, because the perps were their "pals".
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This
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Got me... I have never personally "needed" one.
I think you have to look at the reality of the police... They are not there to "protect" anything. They are not there to "stop" crime.
They are there to report on crime and to make people who commit crimes end up accountable for their actions.
They arrest people after acts have occurred. That is just the job, plain and simple.
What about the lives that HAVEN'T been taken yet, cops aren't protecting them? Columbine, VT, SB, Pulse, Dallas, Baton Rouge, etc.? Taking out active shooters doesn't "protect anything"?
Ohio cop who took out Nathan Gale (a still-firing murderer of four, including Dimebag) - he didn't stop anything or protect anyone? Ask Vinnie, maybe. Ask Tracie Thompson or Denise Peraza if cops "just arrest people after." What, Farook just got bored?
Another "typo," perhaps? Like with Shizzo?
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240 is a killary shill, plain and simple
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240 is a killary shill, plain and simple
240 is voting for Gary Johnson.
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Police, by there mere presence, is doing a job. Saying you never needed one doesn't mean shit.
Of course they are reactive, you want them to arrest people for no reasons?
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I have made insurance claims WITHOUT the cops involvement. I have also had cops not want to investigate the crime, because the perps were their "pals".
Fantastic, then. You and Tu are the town badasses, no need for LE.
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What about the lives that HAVEN'T been taken yet, cops aren't protecting them? Columbine, VT, SB, Pulse, Dallas, Baton Rouge, etc.? Taking out active shooters doesn't "protect anything"?
Ohio cop who took out Nathan Gale (a still-firing murderer of four, including Dimebag) - he didn't stop anything or protect anyone? Ask Vinnie, maybe. Ask Tracie Thompson or Denise Peraza if cops "just arrest people after." What, Farook just got bored?
Another "typo," perhaps? Like with Shizzo?
Yeah we realize that. They are PAID to do a job. They serve a purpose.
Doesn't change the facts and opinions others have expressed.
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Yeah we realize that. They are PAID to do a job. They serve a purpose.
Doesn't change the facts and opinions others have expressed.
Of course it does, you fucking dunce. It DIRECTLY refutes the idiot's assertion. Reread the shit, I ain't explaining it to you.
Ya goofy bastard.
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Of course it does, you fucking dunce. It DIRECTLY refutes the idiot's assertion. Reread the shit, I ain't explaining it to you.
Ya goofy bastard.
Ooh getting hot under the collar are we? Take it easy, don't wanna have a heart attack!
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Ooh getting hot under the collar are we? Take it easy, don't wanna have a heart attack!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/12/article-2626080-1DC50EB700000578-371_634x317.jpg)
Go trace a chemtrail, simpleton.
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Go trace a chemtrail, simpleton.
hahaha meltdown
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What about the lives that HAVEN'T been taken yet, cops aren't protecting them? Columbine, VT, SB, Pulse, Dallas, Baton Rouge, etc.? Taking out active shooters doesn't "protect anything"?
Ohio cop who took out Nathan Gale (a still-firing murderer of four, including Dimebag) - he didn't stop anything or protect anyone? Ask Vinnie, maybe. Ask Tracie Thompson or Denise Peraza if cops "just arrest people after." What, Farook just got bored?
Another "typo," perhaps? Like with Shizzo?
The fact that the shooter is still active doesn't change the fact the crime has already occurred.
No typo, genius.
It's the fact of the matter.
Using Shizzo to prove a point? Man. How sad can you get?
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Yes, very good.
Well done.
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The fact that the shooter is still active doesn't change the fact the crime has already occurred.
But they're only there to report, no stopping or protecting. Got it.
Sucks, then, that no one else is available to stop said shooter or protect further victims while the cops simply report. We should totally have someone for that, like armed 'stop-threat' kinda cops, no? Is that crazy?
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But they're only there to report, no stopping or protecting. Got it.
Sucks, then, that no one else is available to stop said shooter or protect further victims while the cops simply report. We should totally have someone for that, like armed 'stop-threat' kinda cops, no? Is that crazy?
Just because they happen to stop an occasional crime doesn't change the fact that's not why they are there.
You do realize that courts have ruled that police have no inherent requirement to stop crime or put themselves in harms way right?
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Just because they happen to stop an occasional crime doesn't change the fact that's not why they are there.
You do realize that courts have ruled that police have no inherent requirement to stop crime or put themselves in harms way right?
If this is correct -- Then you do have a huge huge Problem With Murdering Scumbag Cops
over there in the States. -- !!!
Oh -- And They are all so in Fear of there Lives while at work... ::)
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Just because they happen to stop an occasional crime doesn't change the fact that's not why they are there.
You do realize that courts have ruled that police have no inherent requirement to stop crime or put themselves in harms way right?
Right.
Again, sucks we can't create some agency or something that not only serves us - with the reporting and whatnot - but PROTECTS us as well. Not like these "occasional" crimestoppers we got now.
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If this is correct -- Then you do have a huge huge Problem With Murdering Scumbag Cops
over there in the States. -- !!!
Oh -- And They are all so in Fear of there Lives while at work... ::)
Shut up, stupid.
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Shut up, stupid.
Oh yes of course O Great Cloaca.
Fuck Off.
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240 is voting for Gary Johnson.
correct,
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Right.
Again, sucks we can't create some agency or something that not only serves us - with the reporting and whatnot - but PROTECTS us as well. Not like these "occasional" crimestoppers we got now.
Why? What good would it do?
Crime doesn't run rampant as is. Why would you want more government?
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Crime doesn't run rampant as is. Why would you want more government?
WEAK men almost invariably support bigger government,
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Why? What good would it do?
Crime doesn't run rampant as is.
No shit. And cops probably have something to do with that.
Christ you're thick.
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No shit. And cops probably have something to do with that.
Christ you're thick.
No. Actually it has very little to do with police.
That's an entirely different topic though which we can dig into if you REALLY want to know. It's going to take quite awhile.
I'm not thick. I'm analytical. Something you seem to not be very keen on.
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Got me... I have never personally "needed" one.
I think you have to look at the reality of the police... They are not there to "protect" anything. They are not there to "stop" crime.
They are there to report on crime and to make people who commit crimes end up accountable for their actions.
They arrest people after acts have occurred. That is just the job, plain and simple.
I'm not saying that they are terrible or whatever, I'm just being real about what the function of police is.
Your statement is false. There are many many cases where cops have intervened in a crime in progress and stopped it. It's not even debatable. Why would you be so reckless in your comment, you're normally sharper than that
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No, I have made the exact same statements.
My statements were quite clear. They are not there to stop crime. You just implied your own reason to my statements which were not ONLY reporting, but still not STOPPING crime.
See, they are two different things.
You realize you are wrong in your interpretation of my statement, but you refuse to acknowledge it.
It's cool though. You have had to do that a few times.
You are ignoring the crime deterrent aspect that happens on a regular basis. A neighborhood is getting hit with burglaries. Crime analyst review the stats, gather the likely times, method, possible suspects, information goes out to the patrol supervisors, the special units and a Operations Plan is formulated with specific focus on the neighborhood to reduce the amount of burglaries... Arrests are often made off the intel and the burglaries decrease. Happens with robbery by assaults, sexual assaults and any other crime of pattern. So yeah, there is empirical evidence that they stop crimes.
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You are ignoring the crime deterrent aspect that happens on a regular basis. A neighborhood is getting hit with burglaries. Crime analyst review the stats, gather the likely times, method, possible suspects, information goes out to the patrol supervisors, the special units and a Operations Plan is formulated with specific focus on the neighborhood to reduce the amount of burglaries... Arrests are often made off the intel and the burglaries decrease. Happens with robbery by assaults, sexual assaults and any other crime of pattern. So yeah, there is empirical evidence that they stop crimes.
I can show you statistical evidence that shows that the police are roughly 10% of the overall reduction of crime.
That is quite small in the larger sense of the world.
Of the arrests, how many arrests are made "during" the act of the criminal act and not after? Your crime deterrent aspect is also patently false and I can show you those numbers as well.
Please show me your evidence.
Your statement is false. There are many many cases where cops have intervened in a crime in progress and stopped it. It's not even debatable. Why would you be so reckless in your comment, you're normally sharper than that
Please show me your "many many cases" compared to the number of arrests AFTER the fact. The numbers would hardly be in your favor.
You're right, it's not debatable as I have numbers on my side. Please show me yours. I can provide mine if you are so inclined.
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A popular method of addressing crime pattern is what is known as Compstat. It's a regular meeting of all leadership in the department to discuss current crime trends and what the Commanders are doing to address it. It is also when predicted crime patterns will start based on 3 to 5 years of data. We know when the ACL Festival is in town there will be an increase in burglary of vehicles, robbery by assaults and auto thefts. We know where they hit last year and so we have plans in place and deploy officers to those areas to reduce the number. So just reporting crimes that already happened are certainly part of the job, but the focus is on prevention and reducing the numbers each year.
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I can show you statistical evidence that shows that the police are roughly 10% of the overall reduction of crime.
That is quite small in the larger sense of the world.
Of the arrests, how many arrests are made "during" the act of the criminal act and not after? Your crime deterrent aspect is also patently false and I can show you those numbers as well.
Please show me your evidence.
Please show me your "many many cases" compared to the number of arrests AFTER the fact. The numbers would hardly be in your favor.
You're right, it's not debatable as I have numbers on my side. Please show me yours. I can provide mine if you are so inclined.
Sorry, but you are arguing the earth is flat. It's to ridiculous a position to waste time proving it false. I lived the job for decades, and I've seen a ton of data and personal knowledge of countless times a crime was interrupted and the last time I looked at stats, my city was at a 5 year low on a variety of crimes, kinda meaning... we are impacting crime and reducing the numbers by being proactive
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Sorry, but you are arguing the earth is flat. It's to ridiculous a position to waste time proving it false. I lived the job for decades, and I've seen a ton of data and personal knowledge of countless times a crime was interrupted and the last time I looked at stats, my city was at a 5 year low on a variety of crimes, kinda meaning... we are impacting crime and reducing the numbers by being proactive
I have a ton of data as well.
Going back to when the reduction of crime actually started. So, I can completely prove my point. If you are unwilling to listen though, that's on you.
I expect that. Everyone wants to believe that their job provides meaning and value. Including police officers.
I expect nothing else... Unfortunately, that's not what the actual data will show.
Sorry dude.
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I have a ton of data as well.
Going back to when the reduction of crime actually started. So, I can completely prove my point. If you are unwilling to listen though, that's on you.
I expect that. Everyone wants to believe that their job provides meaning and value. Including police officers.
I expect nothing else... Unfortunately, that's not what the actual data will show.
Sorry dude.
ok, state your position, I don't want to misquote you, then post your data to support it. I'll read it
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ok, state your position, I don't want to misquote you, then post your data to support it. I'll read it
My position is that the police and their presence makes up a relatively small percentage in the overall reduction and lack of crime.
So, to be clear, you are claiming that the increased number of police and / or innovative policing strategies are why we have low crime today?
Is my above statement correct?