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On August 25, 1991, a Finnish computer science student named Linus Torvalds announced a new project. “I’m doing a (free) operating system,” he wrote on an Internet messaging system, insisting this would just be a hobby.
But it became something bigger. Much bigger. Today, that open source operating system—Linux—is one of the most important pieces of computer software in the world. Chances are, you use it every day. Linux runs every Android phone and tablet on Earth. And even if you’re on an iPhone or a Mac or a Windows machine, Linux is working behind the scenes, across the Internet, serving up most of the webpages you view and powering most of the apps you use. Facebook, Google, Pinterest, Wikipedia—it’s all running on Linux.
Plus, Linux is now finding its way onto televisions, thermostats, and even cars. As software creeps into practically every aspect of our lives, so does the OS designed by Linus Torvalds.
http://www.wired.com/2016/08/linux-took-web-now-taking-world/ (http://www.wired.com/2016/08/linux-took-web-now-taking-world/)
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Sorry, aj is on business trip
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Great Operating-System but i always hated that Penguin-logo.
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GNU's Not Unix
I always assumed the G stood for Getbig
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Linux rules the data centers of the world...
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Yeah, the shitty Penguin kinda spoils it... oddly annoying humor these people have. Must be related to all the pony fetishes in the "IT crowd".
Linus was most likely high on anadrol when he "hacked" his way to infamy... he also used to work his midsection and lower back at Westside 7 days a week to endure the endless hours sitting in front of a computer.
And to top it off - he also filled in as a stunt double for Arnold in "Junior".
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Love my Linux Bodhi laptop :)
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Still seems around 5 years old to me.
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So he took UNIX and rebranded it as Linux and made it easier to port onto Intel Chips and run. Yes, it's been big. Same with java. I never understood how someone just creates a new Language. The time and effort and intelligence to do that is outworldy
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So he took UNIX and rebranded it as Linux and made it easier to port onto Intel Chips and run. Yes, it's been big. Same with java. I never understood how someone just creates a new Language. The time and effort and intelligence to do that is outworldy
Amazing what can be accomplished when focused on something other then GetBig and social media. ;D
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Amazing what can be accomplished when focused on something other then GetBig and social media. ;D
Do you think that with the popularity of social media that great inventions will decrease? Some of those minds that are out there with ideas that can change the world are preoccupied with getting Likes and such?
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So he took UNIX and rebranded it as Linux and made it easier to port onto Intel Chips and run. Yes, it's been big. Same with java. I never understood how someone just creates a new Language. The time and effort and intelligence to do that is outworldy
The languages that are "created" are most likely to be held high in academic circles - their real life impact being minimal.
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And it's still a piece of shit that isn't supported by anything
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And it's still a piece of shit that isn't supported by anything
Except every major server vendor in the world.
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And it's still a piece of shit that isn't supported by anything
Every mac and iphone and android.
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Every mac and iphone and android.
Technically Macs and iPhones are BSD, but every Android powered device sure. Including tablets.
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Technically Macs and iPhones are BSD, but every Android powered device sure. Including tablets.
semantics, Macs, iPhones and androids are unix derivatives
All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel
The real hero is Richard Stallman and the GNU project.
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semantics, Macs, iPhones and androids are unix derivatives
All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel
The real hero is Richard Stallman and the GNU project.
I think Stallman and Linus are both quite genius and have helped mankind quite a bit.
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I think Stallman and Linus are both quite genius and have helped mankind quite a bit.
Don't forget the countless open-source developers.
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semantics, Macs, iPhones and androids are unix derivatives
All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel
The real hero is Richard Stallman and the GNU project.
So Linus build the base and Stallman and Co. bulked up the project so that it is on par with UNIX?
Would there be any advantage using a commercial UNIX or is it an industry/niche thing?
Btw,
pretty sure Weider was watching his highly confidential video "footage" on W-UNIX on a Zercher4000.
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Linus Torvalds - he's from Finland 8)
Just in case you didn't know.
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So Linus build the base and Stallman and Co. bulked up the project so that it is on par with UNIX?
Would there be any advantage using a commercial UNIX or is it an industry/niche thing?
Btw,
pretty sure Weider was watching his highly confidential video "footage" on W-UNIX on a Zercher4000.
At this point, I'd say it's very limited as to any advantage.
Back before Intel and AMD had large Core / CPU machines, and before there was high performing "network based" interconnects (like infiniband or even 100Gb ethernet) it was very advantageous to big number crunchers to use proprietary unices.
When you could attach 64 CPUs to a single platform and just do whatever you needed to do, you would get huge performance, but it cost huge amounts of dollars.
Today, you can do most of that with large Intel boxes and using interconnect services to achieve the same types of performance.
The days of Solaris, HP-UX, and AIX are "basically" over. Even those hardware companies have huge linux offerings and that is a big part of their business today.
I heard a number at a recent event that stated that 60% of all server hardware sold today runs Linux in some way shape or form.
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At this point, I'd say it's very limited as to any advantage.
Back before Intel and AMD had large Core / CPU machines, and before there was high performing "network based" interconnects (like infiniband or even 100Gb ethernet) it was very advantageous to big number crunchers to use proprietary unices.
When you could attach 64 CPUs to a single platform and just do whatever you needed to do, you would get huge performance, but it cost huge amounts of dollars.
Today, you can do most of that with large Intel boxes and using interconnect services to achieve the same types of performance.
The days of Solaris, HP-UX, and AIX are "basically" over. Even those hardware companies have huge linux offerings and that is a big part of their business today.
I heard a number at a recent event that stated that 60% of all server hardware sold today runs Linux in some way shape or form.
Interesting - always wondered about that.
I was watching youtube videos and there were some dudes showing off "vintage" hardware, SGI stuff among them, running UNIX/IRIX... pretty cool along with the alluring remains of NeXT's offerings.
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semantics, Macs, iPhones and androids are unix derivatives
All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel
The real hero is Richard Stallman and the GNU project.
lol at "All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel"
is that all?? haha.
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Interesting - always wondered about that.
I was watching youtube videos and there were some dudes showing off "vintage" hardware, SGI stuff among them, running UNIX/IRIX... pretty cool along with the alluring remains of NeXT's offerings.
Yes, and CRAY had a lot going on back then as well.
Linux, with the help of Intel and AMD has made those things almost pointless these days. Other things have of course happened to create that as well, but it's really very interesting.
The open-source communities have so many projects, it's really hard to keep up with them.
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is this bodybuilding related?....what's the latest on Levrone?.... :)
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The terminator ran on Linux? :P
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The terminator ran on Linux? :P
I think so... 4.x.x kernel something
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Do you think that with the popularity of social media that great inventions will decrease? Some of those minds that are out there with ideas that can change the world are preoccupied with getting Likes and such?
Yes...I do believe this will occur to a degree.
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semantics, Macs, iPhones and androids are unix derivatives
All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel
The real hero is Richard Stallman and the GNU project.
I would think the real hero would be Dennis Ritchie & Ken Thompson - the inventors of Unix.
It would be pointless to list the other contributions these two giant minds have made, however you can rest assured that almost all modern computing owes heavily to these two folks and AT&T labs in general. Their Wiki's are fascinating.
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Just to keep things clear for anyone who is just looking around the thread.
Linux is a completely different kernel than the Unix variants.
It was started from scratch.
Now, the reality is that the command line syntax is often the same and while many applications have been produced by the open source communities for both, they are not the same.
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is this bodybuilding related?....what's the latest on Levrone?.... :)
Linux is the Terminator of operating systems; it keeps running, no matter what.
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Linux is the Terminator of operating systems; it keeps running, no matter what.
Also it doesn't phone home unless it is Ubuntu.
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lol at "All Linus Torvalds did was just made the kernel"
is that all?? haha.
All the rest of UNIX > kernel
Just because the kernel was the last missing piece at the time, doesn't make it anymore important then the rest
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Bodybuilding related because KDE was the world's first openly gay desktop environment.
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Bodybuilding related because KDE was the world's first openly gay desktop environment.
KDE today is a bloated piece of ressource-wasting and spying crap and full of bugs.
KDE3 hasn't been that bad though.
Anyway, not recommended.
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KDE today is a bloated piece of ressource-wasting and spying crap and full of bugs.
KDE3 hasn't been that bad though.
Anyway, not recommended.
Real Alpha's choose Xfce!!
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Real Alpha's choose Xfce!!
Xfce is not bad but it also has some bugs regarding video output/gaming (low fps).
I have been a long time Xfce user but it's bugs made me switch to MATE.
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Xfce is not bad but it also has some bugs regarding video output/gaming (low fps).
I have been a long time Xfce user but it's bugs made me switch to MATE.
lol@gaming on linux
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lol@gaming on linux
just one example,
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4l6b06/windows_vs_linux_fps_performance_spoiler_linux/
With AMD graphics card you don't even need to think about it.
But Intel/NVIDIA works pretty good, often better than on the 10 Trojan.
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Except every major server vendor in the world.
yep
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just one example,
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4l6b06/windows_vs_linux_fps_performance_spoiler_linux/
With AMD graphics card you don't even need to think about it.
But Intel/NVIDIA works pretty good, often better than on the 10 Trojan.
Just because a couple of games that actually run on Linux achieve 5fps more when it's over 200fps on both anyway, doesn't take away Linux is shit for gaming, nothing fucking runs on it.I don't doubt Linux would achieve better fps than Windows on most games if developers saw a market for Linux gaming, but they don't.This could change with the steam machines etc but I doubt it.
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Just because a couple of games that actually run on Linux achieve 5fps more when it's over 200fps on both anyway, doesn't take away Linux is shit for gaming, nothing fucking runs on it.I don't doubt Linux would achieve better fps than Windows on most games if developers saw a market for Linux gaming, but they don't.This could change with the steam machines etc but I doubt it.
Actually games run better on Linux since you have everything under control (open source) and can tweak, etc. to your liking.
On crapdows everything is under microshits control.
Using Intel/Nvidia under Linux and some tweaks every game I tried ran far better on Linux than on Windows.
At least this is my personal experience.
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Xfce is not bad but it also has some bugs regarding video output/gaming (low fps).
I have been a long time Xfce user but it's bugs made me switch to MATE.
Not a gamer myself, but I enjoy the speed and functionality of Enlightenment. The only part that sucks is finding/adjusting certain settings with all those sub menus.
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It’s not so much the technology behind Linux that’s fascinating – it’s what Linux has enabled in its 20 year lifespan. Linux has grown from a hobby OS that ran only on Intel-based 386 computers to powering everything from the smallest embedded devices to most of the world’s supercomputers. While Linux has largely failed to make a dent on the desktop, where Apple shines, it’s made amazing progress everywhere else.
If you’re reading this site, you’re using Linux indirectly. It’s no exaggeration to say that the Web as it is today would not exist if it weren’t for Linux. The rapid explosion of Web sites and Web businesses were made possible largely by Linux. Not because Linux was technically superior, but because it was freely available and open to modification. Many of the largest and most influential businesses of the last decade wouldn’t have been viable if it weren’t for Linux and the rest of the free software stack.
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Use Facebook, Twitter, or Google? Again, all of those companies depend heavily on Linux. If you buy stuff from Amazon, bid on auctions on eBay, or watch a movie using Netflix streaming – you’re using Linux. Linux also powers control systems in nuclear submarines. It’s hard to imagine the rise of big data or cloud computing without Linux. Amazon Web Services? Linux. Rackspace Cloud? Linux. Google App Engine? You get the idea.
On the consumer side, life would look a lot different without Linux as well. If you use an Android phone, or a Kindle eBook reader, you’re using Linux. It also powers the Roku Internet TV devices. It’s also being used for In-Vehicle-Infotainment (IVI) systems, and countless other devices.
http://readwrite.com/2011/08/25/as-steve-jobs-steps-down-linux/ (http://readwrite.com/2011/08/25/as-steve-jobs-steps-down-linux/)
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Five Ways Linux Impacts Our Daily Lives
by Ryan Matthew Pierson
[snip]
The Majority of the Web Runs on Linux
Linux (and Unix) platforms are currently powering the majority of the Web today. Because if the flexibility of operating systems such as Debian, Cent OS, and Gentoo, Linux has served as the backbone of the majority of the sites you browse on a daily basis. Network administrators love Linux because it can be customized to a network’s specific needs, and is capable of running single and multiple tasks without a lot of background processes clogging up the system. At one point, the ratio of Linux servers to Windows and OS X servers was 4:1. Recent studies have shown that Linux is currently backing between 60-70% of the world’s Web servers.
Linux, and various derivatives thereof, currently serve as a primary operating system for over 90% of the world’s 500 most powerful supercomputers.
http://www.lockergnome.com/news/2011/09/30/five-ways-linux-impacts-our-daily-lives/ (http://www.lockergnome.com/news/2011/09/30/five-ways-linux-impacts-our-daily-lives/)
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Just because a couple of games that actually run on Linux achieve 5fps more when it's over 200fps on both anyway, doesn't take away Linux is shit for gaming, nothing fucking runs on it.I don't doubt Linux would achieve better fps than Windows on most games if developers saw a market for Linux gaming, but they don't.This could change with the steam machines etc but I doubt it.
Actually OpenGL smokes DirectX.
The problem is market share. Windows has the market share. That's all.
If people start buying desktop Linux and actually can use it as a group, game developers would make games for it.
Little known fact, starting this year, the servers running battlefield 1 will all be Linux.
They can host more people on Linux game servers than on Windows.
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Only remember the OpenGL/DirectX "war" from back in the day when John Carmack in all of his muscle bound glory used the momentum of Quake to give OpenGL the spotlight. No idea how it is today... too much of an industry for me.
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I would think the real hero would be Dennis Ritchie & Ken Thompson - the inventors of Unix.
It would be pointless to list the other contributions these two giant minds have made, however you can rest assured that almost all modern computing owes heavily to these two folks and AT&T labs in general. Their Wiki's are fascinating.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NVVzDR4Hv-U/TtNFw9XcL_I/AAAAAAAAAVU/I3feSM2YPPQ/s1600/322262_290495117657166_100000900410403_880349_1554212118_o.jpg)
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He wasn't ignored by the true nerds.
The reality is that Steve Jobs impacted more people in a in your face way. Things like the iPod and the Mac were in your face. More important? Hell no!
Just more visible.
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Linus Torvalds' funny quotes:
Those that can, do. Those that can't, complain.
I'm basically a very lazy person who likes to get credit for things other people actually do.
I don't ask for money. I don't ask for sexual favors. I don't ask for access to the hardware you design and sell. I just ask for the thing I gave you: source code that I can use myself
The thing that has always disturbed me about O_DIRECT is that the whole interface is just stupid, and was probably designed by a deranged monkey on some serious mind-controlling substances. *
*In other words, it's an Oracleism
Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100 mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had.
See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too
Talk is cheap. Show me the code.
I'm a bastard. I have absolutely no clue why people can ever think otherwise. Yet they do. People think I'm a nice guy, and the fact is that I'm a scheming, conniving bastard who doesn't care for any hurt feelings or lost hours of work, if it just results in what I consider to be a better system. And I'm not just saying that. I'm really not a very nice person. I can say "I don't care" with a straight face, and really mean it.
Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.
In my opinion MS is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems.
Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems.
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Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems.
Actually Microshite makes trojans/botnets disguised as operating systems.
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Actually Microshite makes trojans/botnets disguised as operating systems.
Besides the fact that Windows is flawed, and I'm not defending them becuase Windows sucks.
But if Linux or Mac owned 90+% of the desktop market share, I'm sure we would see a lot of malware for them.
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:D Ha ha brilliant!
Still seems around 5 years old to me.
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One from me...
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